Three Questions for Anaheim Calling
In continuing with the trend to ask our opponents some questions prior to the game, tonight brings us to the future SBN site Anaheim Calling. Currently, those guys are still working on transferring over to SBN, but you can check them out here in the meantime.
It isn't often the Flyers host the Ducks, and in case you didn't hear, the Flyers made a trade with them this offseason.
Check after the jump for Arthur's answers to how Lupul and Sbisa are fitting in, what's going on in their crease, and should JVR be given the Bobby Ryan treatment.
1) Trading Joffrey Lupul and Luca Sbisa was mostly considered an acceptable loss. In Philadelphia, Lupul was constantly looked at as inconsistent and overpaid, despite having immense talent. Sbisa was a little harder to give up since he was so young and showed great talent. How have each performed so far, and what do you expect them to do for the Ducks this year and beyond?
I've joked that going to Philadelphia for a forward is like going to the airport for lunch, and Lupul is currently a $10 Big Mac. I mean, I can't argue with the logic of overpaying playoff performers and free agents, but turning around and successfully trading an overpaid player is some GM kung fu.
In the first few games of the season, Lupul's been passing and blocking shots (last we saw him in the West, the thesaurus listed "passer" and "shot-blocker" as acceptable antonyms for "Lupul"). He's also got some elbows and some toughness, courtesy of the Flyers. Thank you, Broad Street Bullies. But I don't know how long Lupul will decide to play this way. Unfortunately, even if he regresses, we might keep him as a Top Sixer until the last year of his contract. We don't have too many pure scorers in the cupboard nipping at his heels, and Selanne and Koivu will most certainly retire this year. He's kind of got us by the short and curlies unless someone else wants him in a trade. Murray's gotta work on that kung fu.
I've been impressed with Sbisa. Offensively, I've heard comparisons to Oleg Tverdovsky's skating, and I see that. But Anaheim is a system where we'd want him to join the rush, not lead it. He's still working on that. What I love about the kid is his talent below his own hash marks. He plays the man well and can push him wide, and he's tough around the net. For that alone, I see him as a top pairing guy who we'll re-sign before the end of next year.
2) With the emergence of Jonas Hiller last year, the Ducks now have two number 1 goalies. Who will be your goalie this year, will one of them be traded, or is one of them going to be happy as a backup?
I don't think we'll have a Number 1 until after the trade deadline. Carlyle certainly has no intention of offering job security to either of them; he'll be going with the hot hand until one of them collapses or Bob Murray trades one.
And I think Murray WILL trade one of them. He has asset-loss-a-phobia, and Hiller's contract expires this season. But
moving Giguere could be difficult until the trade deadline, when a lot of his money is paid and teams get a better idea of what they have in net. With the cap room we have next year, two marketable goaltenders and an entire Olympics worth of negotiating time, Murray should be busy come March 3rd. Until then, I think HIller and Giguere will have to be happy running the crease by committee.
3) Flyers rookie James van Riemsdyk - out for today's game - has been compared to both Patrick Kane (taken ahead of him) and Bobby Ryan (same selection two years earlier). With van Riemsdyk starting the year in Philadelphia, how important was it for Ryan to get time in the AHL, and what was the main reason (other than the salary cap) that kept him out of the NHL?
If you ask Bobby Ryan, he says a lot of it was conditioning; he wasn't living a professional athlete's lifestyle on a professional athlete's diet. And I'm willing to believe that was a part of it. First, because he flew the Ducks' strength and conditioning coach out to the NHL Awards last year, and second, because his physical game has really picked up. It wouldn't be the first time we asked a guy to lose weight; Francois Beauchemin had to shed some pounds before we'd let him in the lineup.
But I think salary, particularly the bonus, was the root of the problem all along, and Ryan has pointed to that as well. You also can't fault Burke for not giving the kid three full and successful NHL seasons to bargain with at the renewal table. Though, that being said, I still think Ryan is going to try to bleed us dry on this next contract.
A few surprises: Luca Sbisa a top pairing defenseman? I thought highly of him myself, but wow. JSG being available at the trade deadline? At least we know we have options in Philly.
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Giguere’s salary cap hit is $6mil this year and next.
He’s not an option for the Flyers unless they blow this team up.
At 6 mil a year, Im not sure hes a realistic option for any team.
by philiafan14364 on Oct 10, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
There are ten teams he would fit on:
http://nhlnumbers.com/compare.php?season=0910&type=capspace&order=DESC
I wasnt saying nobody had the space, I was saying that nobody would want him for that much.
by philiafan14364 on Oct 10, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
But like Arthur said, if the team gets him at the end of March, his cap hit isn’t $6 million. It’s still a lot for how short of a time he’d be anywhere, but it’s not $6 million.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 10, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
What? It is always $6mil.
There’s a yearly cap and a daily cap. Specifically to prevent you from banking cap space and then loading your team up.
Re-reading, its obvious you’re confusing “cap hit” with “salary”. Arthur is discussing salary, I’m discussing cap hit.
Page 213 of the CBA, §50.5 (3)(v)(B):
In order for a Club to acquire a multi-year SPC after the commencement of a season (i.e., that expires at the conclusion of a future League Year), the Club must have Payroll Room equal to or in excess of the Averaged Amount of the Player Salary and Bonuses for the remainder of such season.Emphasis mine.
Below that:
Illustration: Assume the Upper Limit is $40 million and a Club has an Averaged Club Salary of $39 million (and Payroll Room of $1 million). The Club may acquire an SPC under which the Player will earn $1 million or less during the last half of that League Year.Again, emphasis mine.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 10, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
So, if the Flyers were to acquire JSG exactly 2/3 of the way through the season, his cap hit would be exactly 1/3 of his ACS, which would thus be $2 million.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 10, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m reading the CBA now, just strike that post (deleting it would be better as its just misleading).
I’m thoroughly confused. I thought the cap isn’t calculated by simply subtracting a prorated portion of cap hits from a total number, exactly to prevent teams from doing what you’re talking about with Giguere by acquiring contracts that they couldn’t have afforded for the duration of the season….
But I think the section I posted (whether it’s the controlling section or not) is still in line with your daily cap hit idea. So, if Briere is only on the roster for 2 days, his “cap hit” would be roughly $66k. Same with acquiring players. There’s even an exception – I didn’t post it because I don’t understand it at all – allowing for teams to bring in a player who makes more than they can afford, and somehow worry about the money in a different way.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 11, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw that exception, tagging contracts or something like that…
I thought that an NHL team has to keep each day’s cap number below this equation: (annual salary cap) / (days in the season), but it seems I was incorrect.
So, the smart thing to do is to keep cap space early in the season. As your equation demonstrates, keeping just $2mil in cap space for three months allows a team to add a $4mil contract for the last three months of the year.
And thank you for deleting the other post I made.
Not a problem
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 11, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
They think Lucas a top 2 Dman? Theyre either seeing him with homer eyes, or we got (potentially) shafted.
I had to ask about that too
And the response I got from Arthur was:
I projected top pairing mostly because our blueline is rebuilding, and he’s already spending some time with Nieds on the top pair. If we sign big free agents over the next two yrs, obviously he’d be 2nd pair, but Carlyle and Murray really like him. They talk about him like one of the kids they used to train on the blueline.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 10, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
We got rid of an atrocious contract and picked up a bonafide number one defenseman. We didn’t get shafted at all.
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We also gave up 2 first rounders and a possible top 2 dman, I said potentially…
by philiafan14364 on Oct 10, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I see what you’re saying. If Sbisa does turn out to be a #2, and those two picks become something big, we might have gotten shafted. That’s what a lot of people didn’t like about the trade – the two first round picks. Hopefully the Flyers keep picking 25th or later, and the chances of those picks becoming studs drops. In which case, the trade looks pretty even.
Such is the risk when you want to win now.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 10, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
How come, when SBN was created, every other hockey team in the NHL got its own seporate site, but the Kings and Ducks had to share one? That doesnt seem fair.
Battle of California was around long before SBN. There aren’t that many Ducks and Kings sites out there, but Anaheim Calling is coming on board soon and I’m sure Mirtle is actively looking for an independent Kings site to come over too. BoC will always stick around though.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 10, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
So blogs on SBN arent just created? They have to be a blog somewhere else before getting SBN status? I didnt know that…
by philiafan14364 on Oct 10, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Basically every SBN blogger at least had a track record before joining up here. That’s what makes this network so special. It’s a collaboration of the best team blogs on the web.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 10, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
BoC refuses to divorce, really. We’re way too comfortable with the rivalry set-up.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
Yeah, you guys are quite awesome, I must say.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 10, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
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