Ranking the Flyers: Number 25

by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 11, 2009 5:43 PM EDT in Philadelphia Flyers Features

One day late, we crown Andreas Nodl #24.

Now, there remains only 3 players who have NHL experience.

Poll

Who is the Next (25th) most valuable Flyer?

Randy Jones

55 votes

Jon Kalinski

20 votes

Pat Maroon

39 votes

Jared Ross

50 votes

Marc-Andre Bourdon

14 votes

Kevin Marshall

20 votes

Jon Matsumoto

8 votes

206 votes | Poll has closed

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Jones is going to be the least valuable Flyer. Poor Randy.

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by mikefive on Oct 11, 2009 6:38 PM EDT reply actions

Can we have him put down? Put him out of our misery?

by chillicothe20 on Oct 11, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions

What is he, a horse with a broken leg?

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by mikefive on Oct 12, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions

Most of the fanbase seems to want him gone. I don’t want him starting regularly, but have always been fairly ambivalent.

by chillicothe20 on Oct 12, 2009 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions

I think he’s still got some decent trade value, which should be a consideration.

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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 11, 2009 11:41 PM EDT reply actions

As much as I’d like to see him gone, my reason is only that of $$ vs. production and the end result on the cap with ability to use that $$ and space for the better. Basically, he makes too damn much for a 5th-6th Dman. In fairness to Jones he is probably just as good as if not better than 4-5 of the last vote winners.

by Crosby sucks on Oct 12, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions

His trade value is almost zero, since to trade him he has to go through re-entry waivers, and if anyone claims him they’d only have to pay half his cap number, and we’d be stuck with the other half. Jones is a Phantom for the rest of the year.

by SJPhillyVT on Oct 12, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Maybe at the end of the year, as in a “trade for his negotiating rights” type of deal? Not entirely sure how that would work, but I can’t imagine a team would have to pay to acquire him for the sole purpose of signing him for the next year.

Then again, does anybody want a “head start” to signing Randy Jones? I think they’d rather see the market value – or he would rather see his market value – before signing a deal like that.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 12, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions

Any time he’s gonna be traded during the season he’ll have to clear re-entry waivers. They Flyers wouldn’t do that unless they’re true morons. It’s the same as the Gauthier situation.

by SJPhillyVT on Oct 12, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, I meant after the season. Should have clarified.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 12, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions

Well after the season he’s a free agent so there’s nothing to trade. That’s why I figured you meant during the season.

by SJPhillyVT on Oct 13, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, but there are a few weeks where the season is over and he’s not yet a FA. Example being Jay Bouwmeester last year.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 13, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions

True, guess that’s where your “but I can’t imagine a team would have to pay to acquire him for the sole purpose of signing him for the next year” came in. And I 100% agree with that.

by SJPhillyVT on Oct 13, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions

Jones is valuable

Jones is valuable in the monetary sense of the word since his salary is more than everyone else on the list combined. Hence my vote for Jones.

by chrislanci on Oct 12, 2009 1:56 PM EDT reply actions

If we go up 3 to 0 in a playoff round we can bring him up so we can have an exciting game 7. Isnt that worth something?

by Prometheus74 on Oct 12, 2009 3:57 PM EDT reply actions

If there's such a thing as an "unvaluable" player

its Randy Jones. He probably makes too much money for any team to want to trade for him, and the team can’t even call him up unless theres a serious injury to a top defenseman because it would push them over the cap. He pretty much has negative value to the Flyers right now, even though he’s certainly the best player remaining on this list, if healthy. They just can’t do anything with him.

I went with Marshall because he seems to have moved ahead of Bourdon as our top defensive prospect, but I could see voting for Maroon too. I’m looking at this as “valuable to the organization” and not just this year’s team, so Ross and Kalinski are out because they’ll never be more than 4th liners.

by kazz on Oct 12, 2009 4:10 PM EDT reply actions