Game 7, Preview and Open Thread: Winter Classic Preview, Boston Bruins at Philadelphia Flyers
by Travis Hughes on Oct 22, 2009 5:24 PM EDT
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PrintBoston Bruins at Philadelphia Flyers, Oct 22, 2009 7:00 PM EDT
Boston Bruins (4-4-0, 8 pts) at Philadelphia Flyers (3-2-1, 7 pts)
Wachovia Center - 7:00 PM EST - Philadelphia, PA
TV: CSN HD, NESN HD, NHL Network US HD
Radio: 610 WIP (internet stream), XM 206, Sirius 219
This is the open game thread.
Behind Enemy Lines: Stanley Cup of Chowder
In a preview of this years Winter Classic, the Flyers will face off against the Boston Bruins for the first time on the year tonight at the Wachovia Center. While the orange and black haven't played since Saturday, the Bruins are coming off of a game just a night ago, squeaking out a 3-2 home victory over the Nashville Predators.
The story in Boston thus far this season has been injuries. Milan Lucic and Marc Savard are both out for extended periods of time, and losing Phil Kessel in a trade with Toronto has taken considerable bite out of their lineup. Still, they are a dangerous team and they are a worthy test as the Flyers look to snap a three-game losing streak.
For Philadelphia, the story will be shaking off the rust. Playing in their second game in 12 days, the Flyers are sure to be rusty. They looked terrible, especially on the defensive end, in Saturday's 4-2 loss in Florida, and they are going to need a much more solid effort in order to please the home fans this evening in South Philly.
Coach John Stevens has altered his lineup considerably for this evenings game. In practice today, Arron Asham played on the top line with Simon Gagne and Mike Richards, while Mika Pyorala has moved down to the fourth line. There are conflicting reports on who will sit out of the Flyers lineup, Riley Cote or Darroll Powe, but the wings on the fourth line will be Mika Pyorala and Dan Carcillo. Claude Giroux, James van Riemsdyk, and Ian Laperriere take third line duties while Jeff Carter will center Scott Hartnell and Danny Briere on the second line.
On defense, with the injury to Ryan Parent, it looks like we'll see a bottom pairing of Danny Syvret and Ole-Kristian Tollefsen. John Stevens said earlier in the week that he wants to see those two get more ice time to take less burden off of the top two pairs. It will be interesting to see how long that experiment lasts.
In goal, the Flyers will go with Ray Emery -- no shocker. Tim Thomas played for Boston last night, so we could see Tuukka Rask in goal for the Bruins.
After the jump, questions to answer and a chat with the enemy.
Evan from Stanley Cup of Chowder answered a few of Geoff's questions earlier in the week. Here's the exchange...
Broad Street Hockey: Much like the Flyers, your Bruins are off to a slow start. Both teams are expected to challenge for Eastern Conference supremacy, but neither are playing like it so far. What's the atmosphere like in Boston, particularly the attitude of the fans?
Stanley Cup of Chowder: The natives are starting to get a little restless. The expectations were set pretty high this year.
BSH: Milan Lucic just went on IR after surgery on his broken finger. With the Phil Kessel trade, the Chuck Kobasew trade, and now this, the Bruins are missing 144 points (42 from Lucic) from last year's team. How will the departures of Kessel and Kobasew, and the injury to Lucic affect this team, both now and over the course of the season?
SCoC: Lucic being on the shelf is a big hit to the B's. He brings a physical edge and energy that is clearly missing when he isn't in the lineup. As for Kessel and Kobasew, as Mark McGwire would say "I'm not here to talk about the past, I'm here to talk about the future". With Marco Sturm and Patrice Bergeron healthy and a talented group of young players waiting for their shot at the NHL level, I think someone will step up and fill that void.
BSH: Last year, Boston led the league in fewest goals allowed. This resulted in Tim Thomas winning both the Jennings and the Vezina trophy last year, but this year Boston ranks 22nd in that category. Is this a reflection on the team, the goalies, or just a poor start?
SCoC: You can't really blame the Bruins' poor start on goaltending, the group in front of them hasn't been very good either. That being said, Thomas and Rask can certainly play better than we have seen so far.
Questions To Answer
- How does the defense as a whole perform after a terrible group outing last Saturday?
- How long does the Syvret/Tollefsen getting more minutes experiment last?
- Can the well-rested Flyers take advantage of a team coming off of a game last night?
- How many hot dogs are consumed by the Wachovia Center crowd on dollar dog night?
Tonight's game is on Comcast SportsNet in the Philadelphia area and the NHL Network across the United States (not in Canada). You can listen on 610 WIP and, as always, join us here for the discussion. Me? I'll be at the Wach adding to that total of hot dogs eaten. LET'S GO FLYERS!
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I was supposed to be there tonight, but the tickets for my student package sold out. Wish I was there for some dollar dog night. Always a blast at Phillies games.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 22, 2009 6:03 PM EDT reply actions
Haha, the knit caps were being handed out to the players by Zack Hill. Possible exchange:
Cote: Why did is Hartnell wearing an orange one but Carcillo is wearing a white one?
Zack Hill: Wear it.
Hartnell: I think they’re reversible. Are they Zack?
Zack Hill: …………………….
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 22, 2009 7:03 PM EDT reply actions
Wow, NHL Network is using the Flyers feed, which marks the first time I will have seen it since March or so.
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I don’t know if I could handle having to watch the other team’s TV coverage almost every game like that.
It’s rough. I was almost looking forward to Jack Edwards, though.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 22, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
When is Brian Boucher gonna get his ass off the bench? Against Florida, possibly?
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Ouch. Anybody with legs had to cringe seeing Tollefson do that.
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If someone wants to get me an Arron Asham jersey as a late Columbus Day present, I would be grateful.
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7,000 hot dogs down…
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 22, 2009 7:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
mmmmmmm id take a few with cheese and catsup
by Prometheus74 on Oct 22, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha yup, was trying to figure out the OS.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 22, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
1st Period Goals
Philadelphia (12:03) Chris Pronger (Assist: Matt Carle, James van Riemsdyk)
Boston (17:26) Derek Morris (PP) (Assist: Zdeno Chara)
How does Bill Clement not have a bigger gig?
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And how does Steve Coates still have a job? I swear, I’d rather have Donovan McNabb try to comment on hockey.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 22, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m willing to bet they stopped paying Coates some time ago.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 22, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow. Wow Razor
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 22, 2009 8:06 PM EDT reply actions
Every game they show the top 3 star points leaders but NEVER explain how many points each star is worth.
how many points for 1 star ?
how many points for 2 stars?
how many points for 3 stars ?
I believe it’s 3, 2, 1. I mean, you could easily calculate it if only they gave you enough time
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 22, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Darroll Powe!
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 22, 2009 8:19 PM EDT reply actions
4th Line Production. Wait a minute, with Syvret and Tollefsen on the ice? Hell just froze over…
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 22, 2009 8:20 PM EDT reply actions
Emery again! Saving Coburn’s ass. Again!
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 22, 2009 8:23 PM EDT reply actions
ASHAM!!!
He’s my current favorite Flyer of the moment. Love this dude.
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Not gonna lie, he’s quickly becoming a favorite of mine too. It’s just so hard not to pull for the guy.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 22, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Asham!
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 22, 2009 8:30 PM EDT reply actions
Assists from Tollefsen and Syvret…
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 22, 2009 8:31 PM EDT reply actions
16,067 hot dogs down…
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 22, 2009 8:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Think they can beat this?
the Phils announced that on May 12, a crowd of 43,499 bought a total of 70,014 hot dogs. That’s good for 1.61 per person.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 22, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Horrible rebound control has been Emery’s theme tonight.
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Yeah, despite the usual theme so far this year of Coburn and Timonen on the ice for a goal against, that wasn’t on them.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 22, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha, unfortunately they’re more than $1
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 22, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Only the third penalty of the game.
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Coburn just looks lost, really. Needs to get his head straight.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 22, 2009 8:46 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
John Boruk looks BA in this pic.
Asham looks like he is about to come over the boards and eat the camera.
by Mitchell Green on Oct 22, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
haha,a that’s a fantastic screen shot. I think that needs to be the game recap picture
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 22, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Dear Flyers,
Losing would be bad. Please win.
Thanks.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 22, 2009 9:00 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
OK Tollefsen is one step away from a Gordie Howe hat trick. Bizarre game.
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And it would only get more bizarre if OKT were to score
by Mitchell Green on Oct 22, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
early in the thread someone said NHL network
by chillicothe20 on Oct 22, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d like to start a conspiracy theory that the NHL has self-breaking sticks and are giving them to the Flyers as a practical joke. Would anyone like to join me?
Not that I’m complaining, but when’s the last time anyone saw a “hit from behind” penalty called?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 22, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think that’s an NHL penalty. It would be some sort of boarding, most likely.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 22, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
44.1 Checking from Behind – A check from behind is a check delivered on a player who is not aware of the impending hit, therefore unable to protect or defend himself, and contact is made on the back part of the body. When a player intentionally turns his body to create contact with his back, no penalty shall be assessed.
44.2 specifies that there is no minor penalty, it’s only a major, with a required game misconduct.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 22, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha throw the net off on a breakaway, that’s brilliant.
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Wow. JJ said it best. they don’t call anything all game, then call that with less than two minutes in the game. Seriously…
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 22, 2009 9:32 PM EDT reply actions
You know, I just had a feeling that was going to happen, but that it was going to be Richards, not Carter.
I don’t know if it’s due to the layoff or that it’s still only the 7th game of the year, but Kimmo’s latest turnover was the result of a miscommunication with Emery. Emery was letting him know where the pressure was coming from, Kimmo thought Emery was telling him where to go to avoid the pressure.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 22, 2009 9:40 PM EDT reply actions
Wow, I still hate shootouts, but woot.
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Is it just me, or are shootouts scarier with Ray Emery?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 22, 2009 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
Haha, exactly
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 22, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Playoffs wooot!!!
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 22, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Had a commitment tonight but caught the last half of the 3rd period on. We certainly did not deserve to lose that game, so it’s a good thing we didn’t. Rask didn’t deserve to lose it either, so I guess it’s fitting that we won in a shootout.
Back on track, either way. From what I saw we had Boston pinned in their own end for long stretches of time. It probably helped that we had a lot of time off and they played last night, but it was nice to see us jumping up in the play and winning battles for the puck.
Only good things from here, everyone. Nowhere to go but up. You know the hockey gods are smiling upon you when Ole-Kristian Tollefsen is the player of the game.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
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