Role Players Shine as Flyers Beat Bruins in Shootout, 4-3
Random Thoughts:
- As mentioned in the comments by Ben Feldman, Emery left his crease in the shootout. Hopefully this trend continues.
- Dan Carcillo continues to be an image of discipline. After taking a dangerous hit from behind, he showed some displeasure, but kept just cool enough not to draw a penalty. He walked the line today, but you know he would have jumped it last year.
- Ian Laperriere had a very good game. He had three hits and a blocked shot, finishing a +1 with just under 16 minutes of ice time.
- Coach John Stevens did a good job dishing out the ice time tonight as all 20 skaters finished with over 10 minutes of ice time. Chris Pronger still managed 28:16 though.
- Fourth line production was huge tonight. Darroll Powe's goal was assisted by Dan Carcillo and OKT, while Danny Syvret and Mika Pyorala were also on the ice.
- Danny Briere, Jeff Carter, and Scott Hartnell each finished a -2 on the night, while Kimmo Timonen and Braydon Coburn were a -1. Every other Flyer skater was a +1. This is becoming a worry, as the five are now a combined -21 on the year. They are also the five worst Flyers in that category.
Questions with Answers:
- How does the defense as a whole perform after a terrible group outing last Saturday? This was a very good game for the defense. They got one goal and four assists from their blue line tonight, and Boston's goals came on a screen, a deflection, and a juicy rebound in the slot where Kimmo was draped all over his man. See next answer.
- How long does the Syvret/Tollefsen getting more minutes experiment last? At least for this game. Syvret logged 14:18 tonight, with more ice time in the third period than he saw in the first. Tollefsen logged 11:58, also with more time in the third than he saw in the first. The pair both got more ice time in the second period with the long change, but they played well overall.
- Can the well-rested Flyers take advantage of a team coming off of a game last night? Well, they won. The Bruins came out stronger, but the Flyers quickly matched their energy level. In the third period, it appeared as if both teams slowed down after a physical second and start to the third, but at least the Flyers didn't appear tired as they did in Florida last week.
- How many hot dogs are consumed by the Wachovia Center crowd on dollar dog night? Travis, what's the final tally? Travis: 21,235 -- six by me.
Comment of the Night:
"John Boruk looks BA in this pic. Asham looks like he is about to come over the boards and eat the camera."
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Couple more thoughts from me…
Giroux’s move to win it was just dirty. He had a very solid all around game.
Pyorala played most of the third period on the top line. Not sure why Stevens messed around with Asham in that regard… he looked great with Richards and Gagne.
Carle has looked great. Not sure if it’s a cause of playing with Pronger and having more confidence, but whatever it is, it’s working. I didn’t think he was necessarily bad last year, but he looks fantastic so far this year, and it’s not just because he’s putting points on the board.
Encouraged by OKT and Syvret tonight.
On the Carcillo play, I’m not sure how long they kept the camera on it, but he was jawing for quite some time. The only reason it didn’t get out of hand was because neither Boston player wanted to drop the gloves. Nevertheless, it definitely gave the team and the crowd some jump, so I guess it was worth it.
Place was lifeless tonight. Lots of empty seats. Not sure if that was just people in line for hot dogs or what. 100 or so shy of a sellout, though.
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The game was tough to watch last night. Stevens was just throwing lines together and our top forwards had rough night. Our role player really stepped when it counted. I really hope Lappy plays like that every night, he hit everything that moved. Ugly game, but it was nice to come out on top, especially because we actually won a shootout.
Yeah I wasn’t happy with the mixing of the lines either. I know the bad guys pennsyltuckey are having a lot of success with it right now, but I don’t like it. I want them to build some continuity at least on the top two lines. I did like Lappy with Giroux, and JVR though.
by burtonboypa on Oct 23, 2009 9:00 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
my thoughts exactly. It was a tough game to watch because there seemed to be absolutely no flow to it. I’m hoping it was just because the Flyers haven’t played regular hockey in 2 weeks.
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by HockeyOutsiders on Oct 23, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Stevens is just checking things out. This is the time to mess with the lines and see who works well together. I would imagine that he has an idea of what he wants the lines to be but he has a lot of depth and can afford to switch things up when the game is just not flowing for us. Look at Asham and Lappy last night. They played great and had wonderful energy. Now Stevens knows that they can handle playing with more skilled players.
I just think he is trying to find an even mix between the gritty players and the skilled players. Both groups have invaluable assets to add, now it is just up to Stevens to put them together to produce the best possible results. I think its a good idea.
What do you think of moving Briere down with Giroux and JVR and Asham up to play with Carter and Hartnell, Briere and Carter don’t seem to be fitting too good Carter who makes his own shot handling the puck a lot, Briere is more of a give and go guy who also gets open a plays good behind the net, but he needs someone to dish to him for those open looks. Plus he worked well with Giroux in the past. I think Asham game more resembles Lupul then Danny’s does, Asham and Hartnell would have to get the puck to Jeff and crash the net. It would also sure up the D on the Carter line who have been getting nailed in the +/-.
It’s kinda funny because I was watching the game with my dad, and before the shootout started, we were saying that if Gagne made another appearance we would throw something at the tv, but more importantly that if we failed again that Stevens would really need to send a message to his players; eg next time there’s a shootout send out Giroux, Asham and Carle. I mean how much worse could it be? And then, like clockwork, Briere comes out and misses the net, Richards makes a weak move, and I’m expecting Gagne to come up and shoot it into Rask’s chest, and imagine my shock to see Giroux come up. And surprise surprise- the best puckhandler on the team can occasionally break out a sick move.
I was really excited to see the emotion out of Carter when he didn’t convert on the breakaway. It might be unfair to Carter, because he is so smooth that sometimes it loooks like he lacks in the effort department. I think they looked a little sloppy after the long layoff, but I liked the way they seemed to play hard for 60 minutes. I liked that Carcillo didn’t take a penalty there, but he very easily could have drawn a whistle from different Refs for what he did do. The only negative is it took a shootout to beat a banged up Bruins team with a backup goalie, but a win is a win.
by burtonboypa on Oct 23, 2009 8:48 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Have to agree with you on the Carter breakaway. He knew he could have had it and was pissed. I doubt that’s a mistake he’ll make again. I loved his ferocity there. That spark was part of what was missing in the playoffs last year. I hope it’s infectious!
Carter slammed his stick like that in the playoffs after his turnover led to Pittsburgh’s empty netter in game 6.
Mike Richards:Bob Clarke::Jeff Carter:Rick MacLeish
I make that analogy because of this:
Carter[…] is so smooth that sometimes it [looks] like he lacks in the effort department.
They said the same thing about MacLeish. He was so skilled it looked like he wasn’t trying. And hey, if Richie is the new Clarkie, then Carts is the new Hawk.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Another point for JVR that is 5 points in 5 games (all assists mind you) as the third line looked really solid again with yet another winger thrown into the mix, that puts him on pace for 82 points and a Calder Trophy. Lots of chances Emery was strong making some big timely saves something he failed to do against Florida, however his rebound control has been bit of a problem, a friend of mine from Buffalo saw lots of Emery though rebounds were his biggest issue and so far I can’t argue with him. I wasn’t crazy about all the line juggling out there looked like Stevens was angry with Hartnell for some reason and moved him down to shake things up and from there the lines went crazy. Maybe the Briere – Carter pairing should come to an end still early to tell as Carter as 8 points in 7 games hard to fault him for anything. The game winning breakaway was a nice move met be an even nicer save, Carter even got the puck up on the backhand, Raask was solid tonight facing lots of rubber. Despite another -1 game Coburn looked much better being moved to his natural side of the ice he seem to have more confidence and played a much more physical game. OKT and Syvert played good games and look a lot better with the extra minutes. Hard to come away with many negatives from this game except Emery’s rebound control I will leave that up to MarioD I am sure he found something wrong in there that we can discuss until next game.
I don’t want to start harping on the refs but is there a more inconsistently officiated league than the NHL. Games against Washington 15 minors 7 in 2nd period along, against Pittsburg another 15 minors called (not counting all the end of the game stuff) and yet in the last two games a total of 7 calls were made. Boston was knocking people all over the place in front and behind the net and that was all looked at, hard to get rebounds and crash the net when they let that stuff go. I am not saying we didn’t get away with some stuff either but after all they let go they call that weak hooking call on Gagne at such a crucial moment in the game, under 2 minutes left in the 3rd, the time when non scoring chance denying penalties should be let go. Bergeron didn’t even lose stride and the stick applied for a second at most. If they would have scored on that PP I am sure we would all be in an uproar but all is well that ends well. I would like to see the refs “let them play” in a game against the Pens but those games are usually reduced to alternating special teams play.
Props definitely go out to Emery. He bounced back from a bad game agaisnt FLA and had a solid game tonight. It wasn’t spectacular and, yes, his rebound control is an issue but, you are right, Emery made quite a few timely saves and the one of Krejci was magnificent! As Tim Sauders said, “it was highway robbery!” Gotta love that…
Also, it regards to PIM: I really like that there weren’t making many calls tonight. Both teams jostle and fight in front of the net and I think there is a large amount of stuff that the Refs should let go just to keep the game flowing. I think the players would say that too.
In the end, all I want is consistency in the game. If you are going to make a lot of calls, make them against both teams. Or let a lot go and let them play.
agreed
But from game to game it seems like they call the game based on who you are playing and that is never to our benefit. Against the Pens and Caps teams that lack physical d-men and have tons of talent on the PP you can’t touch a guy (especially around the net) or you are getting called, tons of PP/PK time against the best offensive teams. Against Boston another large physical team with big d-man now you can play physical advantage Boston, our PP especially considering their injuries is a lot more dangerous, no PP time. Carolina 9 minors against 6 by defensemen ton of PP against another highly skilled team, Florida a team we could abuse on the PP they let a lot go only 2 PP opportunities. It seems against teams where we have more skill a lot more is let go favoring the unskilled team Devils, Boston, Panthers In games where the offensive firepower is closer or the Flyers are the lesser offensive team, Pens, Caps, Carolina, Ducks tons of calls. Just the way it seems I am in favor of less calls but be more consistent from game to game. In NJ we got 1 PP before the game was out of hand and the refs threw in 2 minors to Peters when the score was 5 to 1.
But from game to game it seems like they call the game based on who you are playing and that is never to our benefit.
…This definitely seems to be true, which is frustrating. I hear ya. You are right, whether its the Pens, who do not apply a toughness aspect to their game, or the Bruins, who play physically and do a lot more grinding, the Refs should be calling it the same. Whats frustrating is the Flyers are both very tough and very skilled. Thus, they should have the advantage of playing skilled hockey but also playing physically with the more skill oriented teams (Caps, Pens) and using their skill advantage to outplay the more physical teams (Bruins, Ducks).
This advantage is erased if the games are chopped and slowed by penalties based on the two teams playing…
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