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Leave the guys alone about the bars. I am sure Sid and the guys are at the bars just as much they are just not noticed as much. If Richards, Carter, and the rest of the boys were drinking at Woody’s every night it wouldn’t be an issue, because none of us would know.

by burtonboypa on Oct 23, 2009 9:07 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I agree. If one of them comes to practice hungover, then we have a problem. But so what if they go out and drink? Maybe they need to be more like Pat Burrell, that way everybody knows what they’re doing, but they can’t write about it.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 23, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Let’s keep one thing clear: Pat Burrell certainly spent a lot of time at the irish pub, but he didn’t he drink there. He was always with a group of people, and he always drank ice tea.

by MarioD on Oct 23, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

And lets keep on thing clear: he always went home with at least 3 women.

by Nolbs13 on Oct 23, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

And his trusty pack of dip.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Oct 23, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know. Sid still lives in Mario’s basement, so he might need Pa Lemieux’s permission to go out past curfew…

by SteelBirdFlyer on Oct 23, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the issue has more to do with the pictures that have surfaced than the actual drinking of beer. It can’t reflect well on the team when its captain and other stars are seen crashing frat parties, having porn stars hang off of them, etc. Plus, there are other stories out there of random people hanging out with these guys at bars, concerts, etc. In every story I’ve read about the Flyers on the town, they are always described as friendly, “chill” guys, so it’s not like they’re going out and being drunken assholes.

But Holmgren’s been there plenty of times, and he can recognize whether or not something is up with his players. The fact that he called attention to it last summer let the media know that it was an issue. This can be a good AND a bad thing. Perhaps Homer figured that, if people outside of the organization are going to be on top of his players about their social lives, maybe they’d keep themselves in check. But I think the bad outweighs the good.

Since the media is the media, it needs news. To them, the Flyers’ social lives are indeed newsworthy because both Holmgren AND the players themselves have made it so. By the same token, the Flyers are human beings who deserve the right to lead their lives the way they wish. Assuming that none of the players are alcoholics or addicts, they all should be able to handle themselves without outside interference. If they cannot, then we have a problem. But as long as they are maturing, as Homer said they needed to do, then this should not be an issue.

(Side note – Maybe Richie took a cue from Andy Reid’s “You media guys broke our pact” rant this past summer. Richie asked the media not to discuss the Flyers’ nightlife and they did.)

It seems that Richie and Homer have been butting heads on several issues. A situation like this, which Homer exacerbated last summer, cannot help things. I hope that their relationship does not eventually turn into the Lindros Saga Part 2.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Oct 23, 2009 12:44 PM EDT reply actions  

they broke up the brat pak!

by fitzy first on Oct 23, 2009 1:03 PM EDT reply actions  

This is one thing that I just don’t think we should be told. It’s their personal life and they’re just hockey players. They aren’t politicians, they’re private citizens. If it’s an issue, it should stay in house, and I think Homer was wrong to publicize it last season.

Of course, our pop culture obsessed society demands this stuff, so its never going to go away.

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by Travis Hughes on Oct 23, 2009 2:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Totally agree. Why are these guys not allowed to have a little fun? They sacrifice their bodies and work their asses off night in and night out. Granted, they make millions of dollars for it, but they are still 20 something guys. I think its great that they are enjoying the perks of being professional athletes in a city like Philadelphia. It is important to note that they are being responsible, not getting hammered drunk, driving intoxicated or getting into trouble with the police.
Sure, I understand Homer’s concern that the “partying” might be a distraction but maybe they need sometime to go hang out and enjoy a beer. Maybe, that is the way they want to unwind and just hang out. Its not like they are 35 and have a family to go home to. Why is this such a big deal? I don’t get it. They have lives outside of hockey. As long as they are responsible and smart, let them enjoy themselves.

Oh, and Homer definitly should have kept all of this in house. You wanna talk about a distraction? Well, it is now!

by Mitchell Green on Oct 23, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love the comments on the Broad Street Bull page. Anyone who thinks a team captain has any responsibility to talk to the media after the game dead wrong. There job is to do what is best for the team. Is discussing off ice issues with the public good for the team or questioning other players work ethic and professionalism helpful in someway the ultimate goal of winning the cup. Nope, so if you are going to ask stupid question you get stupid answers the team has more important things to worry about. Asking Lopul if he thinks he got traded because of nightlife is irresponsible journalism. It is not like we traded him a bag of pucks, we got a highly coveted future hall of fame defensemen and couldn’t afford him in the salary cap, same goes for Upshall cap casualty. He said he wasn’t going to talk about that stuff and he obviously wasn’t lying. That what makes him a great captain he like Primeau before him is going to take some heat from the media so the TEAM doesn’t have to well done.

by chrislanci on Oct 23, 2009 4:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Well said. How is he a “bad” captain because he won’t slam his teammates and himself? I agree entirely.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 23, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone who thinks a team captain has any responsibility to talk to the media after the game dead wrong.

The Flyers designate which players are available to the media each day. You can often times see it written on the white board in the home locker room if you watch the post game show.

They always designate the captain to speak to the media unless he was injured.

It is, absolutely, part of the responsibility of being a captain in the NHL to talk to the media. Furthermore, the Flyers designated him to talk to the media.

His little stunt is immature and amateurish.

by MarioD on Oct 24, 2009 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

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by Travis Hughes on Oct 24, 2009 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

It makes Richards look bad, but I also don’t think he has to answer questions about his night life. If he had instead refused to answer only those questions, this wouldn’t be an issue.

In general, I’m not upset that he’s refusing to answer certain questions. If he’s shunning the media as a whole, that’s something that needs to change.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 24, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

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