Game 10, Preview and Open Thread: Head Into The Red, Philadelphia Flyers at Washington Capitals
by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 5:10 PM EDT
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Philadelphia Flyers (5-3-1, 11 pts) at Washington Capitals (6-2-2, 14 pts)
Verizon Center - 7:00 PM EST - Washington DC
TV: Versus HD, TSN HD
Radio: 610 WIP (internet stream), XM 204
This is the open game thread.
Behind Enemy Lines: Japers' Rink
The Flyers head south on the Acela to the nation's capital for the second of four meetings this season with the Washington Capitals. Since the Capitals improved in the 07-08 season, the Flyers have toughed out a 9-5-2 record overall against their nearest neighbors to the south.
The Flyers and Caps are two of the three teams widely considered to have a shot of winning the East, so even though it's still October the stakes are pretty serious for bragging rights and momentum.
It's easy to get bogged down into discussions of brutality vs. finesse when discussing Flyers vs. Caps match-ups, but the Flyers don't necessarily have a history of sending Caps players out on stretchers the way they did to Florida two games ago. But all the same, J.P. over at Japers' Rink thinks standing up to the Flyers' bullying ways will be key for the enforcer-less Caps.
Watch tonight's game against the big bad Flyers. Pay attention to the level of respect with which the Orange and Black treat the Caps' skill players. And take note of how the host Capitals, as a team, react. You can bet George McPhee will be.
The first game between the two was an entertaining 6-5 offensive eruption that saw five game tying goals before Daniel Briere buried the game winner in OT. While it was a lot of fun, it was also an absolute mess defensively by both teams. Semyon Varlamov was yanked after the second period for letting in four goals in that frame, including a hat trick by Mike Richards. Ray Emery and the Flyers' defensive corps weren't much better, allowing two goals each by Alex Semin and Alex Ovechkin.
I'll be at the game and in this thread throughout the night, so feel free to shoot me any questions I can answer or ask for you.
After the jump, some questions to be answered in tonight's game.
Questions to Answer:
- How much is Simon Gagne's absence felt by the team's offense?
- How convincingly will Washington dominate in the faceoff circle, and how big an impact will it have?
- Can Ovechkin and Semin be held to less than four goals tonight? Setting the bar low, I know...
- The Flyers are impressively third best in shots for and fifth best in shots against, but can they outshoot the always offensive-minded Caps?
- Which of the visiting Flyers' dads gets to leave the game the proudest of his boy?
Puck drops at 7. Go Flyers.
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We’ll probably see these lines tonight with Gagne out.
van Riemsdyk – Carter – Briere
Hartnell – Richards – Pyorala
Carcillo – Giroux – Asham
Cote – Powe – Laperriere
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 27, 2009 5:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i would rather have Powe over Asham for 3rd line, just to match the speed and crafty-ness of Giroux. And may God have mercy on that 4th line
by JpH89 on Oct 27, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
its actually more of the fact that i would rather not see someone like Powe get dogged just because he is forced to play with Cote
by JpH89 on Oct 27, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t wanna see anybody get dragged down playing with Cote, but thems the breaks.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 27, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the box now, bunches of other teams’ scouts here.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 6:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
When he was done with warm-ups, Emery tried to dismount onto the bench from the ice at full speed and damn near killed himself.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 6:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
haha, um… I’m having a hard time visualizing this.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carcillo-Pyorala-Laperriere is the starting line. WTF?
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 6:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Didn’t the fourth line start all three periods on Sunday, too?
by Ben Feldman on Oct 27, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why does the top of this post say the game is at Philly?
by chillicothe20 on Oct 27, 2009 7:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Caps have this weird thing they do where they have “special” fans they zoom in on over and over again to fire the crowd up. In Flyers terms, it’s like they have a dozen or so fat dancing guys and rely on them to start all the cheers.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 7:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You mean like they have 12 Shawny Hills? Isn’t one enough?
by Ben Feldman on Oct 27, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why do VS games not start for like 10-15 minutes after start time? Regular games never seem to take that long to start.
by chillicothe20 on Oct 27, 2009 7:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Any predictions? I’m feeling like OT maybe.
by chillicothe20 on Oct 27, 2009 7:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m feeling like twenty goals with this start.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty awful first shift by the fourth line
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 7:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That’s why their the FOURTH line
by chillicothe20 on Oct 27, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn’t realize the Caps had brought Giroux up. That might make things a little confusing.
by Ben Feldman on Oct 27, 2009 7:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Very nice backchecking from Coburn to break up that 2 on 1
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 7:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Flyers are planting themselves in front of the Caps net at will here.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 7:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Two questions: Does Cote see more than 2:05 of ice time? And if so, does he get 2 PIM too?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Heh, Briere just tried to start a fight with Poti behind the play.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 7:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why? Why would he do that?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
God knows he’s probably been beat up so many times he occasionally looks to return the favor from time to time in a game.
by doubleh on Oct 27, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No penalties yet. Disciplined? Lucky?
by chillicothe20 on Oct 27, 2009 7:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Poll in the arena:
Best Philly sports movie:
Rocky V
Stealing Home
Philadelphia Phenomenon
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 7:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There is no Rocky V. Stupid Washingtonians
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe they meant
Rocky Five…THOUSAND!
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by IcersGuy on Oct 27, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stealing Home has very little to do with sports, other than the montage where they show him playing baseball (once) and stealing home and his room full of Phillies stuff.
by doubleh on Oct 27, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Philadelphia Phenomenon won. WTF.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You've got it backwards
it’s “Tony Danza FTW!”
…or something…
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by IcersGuy on Oct 27, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even Rocky Part 10,000 would have to be infinitely better than any Tony Danza movie.
by doubleh on Oct 27, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actual Lines?
At work so can’t watch (although couldn’t do that anyways due to VS-DirecTV dustup – boo!!!)
World Ph*cking Champs! That was fun - let's do it again...
by Moridin417 on Oct 27, 2009 7:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Don’t get VS in my dorm… this is killing me… have to listen to WIP- could be worse. The pace sounds pretty good thus far.
by orangeandblack20 on Oct 27, 2009 7:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Could be worse - you could be forced to listen to the VS announcers
I won’t complain, however – I think this is the second game I’ve been able to watch this season
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by IcersGuy on Oct 27, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed- Mondays and Tuesdays suck without Comcast. I miss Coatsey
by orangeandblack20 on Oct 27, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joe Beninati’s voice is annoying, but to be fair, he does a really good job in these Versus games featuring the Caps. If you didn’t know he was their local play-by-play guy, you’d probably never guess (unlike when JJ was doing Flyers games on OLN … which is probably why that was shortlived).
by Ben Feldman on Oct 27, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s awesome. And crazy short.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just herd a commercial busting on pigs and how they must have gotten skinny because bacon is smaller than it should be. Actually lol’d
by orangeandblack20 on Oct 27, 2009 7:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This game is Jacques Lemaire’s nightmare.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 7:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Need to score first. They will control pace all game if they score first.
by chillicothe20 on Oct 27, 2009 7:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Carcillo just destroyed Pothier.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 7:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Check of the Game by Carcillo right there
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 7:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That wrap around came damn close to going in.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 7:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think that you all are ahead of me… I just herd the hit
by orangeandblack20 on Oct 27, 2009 7:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and just herd the wrap around lol
by orangeandblack20 on Oct 27, 2009 7:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Half the time Beninati pronounces it “Ash-uhm,” the other half “Ash-yam.”
by Ben Feldman on Oct 27, 2009 7:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Haha, I hadn’t noticed. That’s just like Chip Caray(?) referring to Chase Utley as “Udley” or “Ugley”
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just noticed that. How hard could it possibly be to pronounce Asham. Since his whole job pretty much revolves around saying players’ names you would think that he would learn them.
by pintium02 on Oct 27, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
From 2 sources in DC: Flyers G Emery came off after warmups and smashed a TV monitor on his way back to the dressing room, wrecking it.
Wonder if that had anything with what you were seeing, Ben?
by Ben Feldman on Oct 27, 2009 7:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Interesting.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's incredibly rude!
We wanted a fiery goalie, we got one.
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by mikefive on Oct 27, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That makes more than a few guys on the team.
by doubleh on Oct 27, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe someone tried to put a hat on him…
by Ben Feldman on Oct 27, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very nice.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it was all momentum from his ice dismount and it was a monitor on or right near the bench, I’m guessing it was a total accident. Otherwise, maybe he just had to go real bad and was destroying everything in his path?
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 7:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
As a goalie who has encountered some, ahem, emergency calls to the bathroom, I know how dire that can be. Not only do you gotta get there in time, but you gotta take off a bunch of equipment be ready.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve seen my toddler struggle just to take off his pj’s in the morning in time, so I can well imagine/sympathize.
by doubleh on Oct 27, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That might be one of the greatest analogies/comparisons I’ve ever read.
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by IcersGuy on Oct 27, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cote is up to 1:33 of ice time. How high can he go???
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 7:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No. Pittsburgh can’t keep up their current pace. What a stupid question. No team could. If they kept up at this pace, they would win 67 games out of 82.
by Ben Feldman on Oct 27, 2009 7:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
typical tv filler. thankfully we have Jonsey on Versus, otherwise it would be a lot harder to watch
by dozilla on Oct 27, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not a bad effort so far
not sure whether to order NHL Gamercent online or Center Ice, did the nhl improve the online feeds from last year? The quality last year left a lot to be desired…
by dozilla on Oct 27, 2009 7:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I feel the same about Center Ice. It’s really crap quality video on the preview. If it was good I would consider getting it.
by pintium02 on Oct 27, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gamecenter = Good
Even if you don’t have the fastest available internet, it’s still good. I use DSL and watch games in 800kb/sec speed and they’re fine.
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by mikefive on Oct 27, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you have it last season? If so, is it better quality by comparison?
by dozilla on Oct 27, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So like last time these two teams played the first period has yeilded no goals. Does this mean that we are gonna get a second period where they trade goals, blow-for-blow?
by flyrsfrk05 on Oct 27, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Let’s not get carried away, NHL.com…
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 7:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The first period in the first meeting was scoreless too. Definitely a powder keg feel to this one.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 7:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Heh, the Hartnell hair is definitely not genetic.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 8:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hahah… and there’s the joke on air – guess it was too easy to pass up.
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by IcersGuy on Oct 27, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, pretty easy joke to make. Still well worth it.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Coburn is getting turned inside out . . .
by flyrsfrk05 on Oct 27, 2009 8:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Great puck possession on this PP.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 8:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
HARTNELL!!!
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 8:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That was super pretty.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 8:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gorgeous. And I just scared the SHIT out of my gf. She just ran away.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 8:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There it is – nice work on the PP rush.
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by IcersGuy on Oct 27, 2009 8:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Love Stevens’ tie.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 8:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Trading pipes
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by IcersGuy on Oct 27, 2009 8:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
rather trade pipes than trade goals
by flyrsfrk05 on Oct 27, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, that’s a great shift there. Inch to the left and it’s 2-0.
“Yeah, but an inch the other way and you would have missed the net completely.”
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 8:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What’s the reaction like in there to goals and such?
by Ben Feldman on Oct 27, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty muted.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice quote
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another really good chance on a delayed penalty. They really have that figured out.
by Ben Feldman on Oct 27, 2009 8:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That side angle shot never seems to work
by dozilla on Oct 27, 2009 8:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pyorala could have easily been called for interference.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 8:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Love the quick zoom in on the Vs. sign on the boards. Very subtle.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 8:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey Cote! Get off the ice before you do something stupid!
by Ben Feldman on Oct 27, 2009 8:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They need to get the netting to make some sort of pinging noise when it gets hit.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 8:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, they’re really getting an obscene amount of chances close in.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 8:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, that was an epic a tackle as you’ll ever seen in hockey.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 8:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
(And that should definitely be a goal…)
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 8:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
God damnit. That’s a horrible penalty to take.
by Ben Feldman on Oct 27, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WOW. Just wow.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How is that a penalty?? He got the puck!!!
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
can’t argue with mariod on this one….that was really dumb, powe
by eeeeee on Oct 27, 2009 8:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Haha, I actually think it was unintentional. Theodore was out of his crease, Powe just deflected the puck… It was certainly a mistake, but dumb… I don’t know.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
richie really looks on edge there. chopping sticks, giving facewipes, flailing after he falls- i hope he doesn’t get over aggressive and take a bad penalty or worse
by eeeeee on Oct 27, 2009 8:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I totally expected a scoring explosion this period, but Emery has thankfully had other plans.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 8:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Never mind…
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why was Carcillo going after a Caps defensemen . . .
by flyrsfrk05 on Oct 27, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
COBURN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by chillicothe20 on Oct 27, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That’s an extra killer for the caps, who couldn’t score on a 5-3, then almost immediately give up a PP goal.
by JasonB on Oct 27, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well that didn’t take long. man it’s insane how easy he makes potting a shot like that look.
by eeeeee on Oct 27, 2009 8:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It was Pyorala
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
can’t keep letting a power play like that march out, there’s no way to keep them off the board
by eeeeee on Oct 27, 2009 8:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, well done John Stevens. Again we cannot hold a two goal lead…
by flyrsfrk05 on Oct 27, 2009 8:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you mean you’re not supposed to sit back on your two goal leads? are you sure?
by eeeeee on Oct 27, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll never understand putting the fourth line out after a goal against. Ever.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously. All the momentum was with the Caps, that’s no way to stop it.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know what’s worse- you having to watch it or me missing it. I went to the bathroom and we’re up 2-0, come back and it’s tied. WTF???
by Kanayd on Oct 27, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sitting back
Washington was being badly outplayed early in the period. We didn’t really see the true “them” until their 5-on-3, even though they didn’t score. They are who we thought they were,but we haven’t let ’em off the hook yet. Plenty of hockey left to be played.
Sometimes, you just have to give credit to the other team for doing a good job. Now we need to get our intensity back up and have at it.
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by mikefive on Oct 27, 2009 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and stay out of the box. all of what you said, and stop taking bad penalties- that’s the surest way to get buried on the scoreboard against these guys.
by eeeeee on Oct 27, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Staying out of the box would definitely help.
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by mikefive on Oct 27, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
can’t help chintzy calls….
Nash for 8 More, Baby!
by PhillyPhan85 on Oct 27, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“They are who we thought they were!!”
Classic.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we only “crown their asses” if the “they” in question are the Los Angeles Kings?
Thank you, thank you. I’ll be here all week.
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by mikefive on Oct 27, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
anyone else
think that goalie interference needs to be addressed more clearly…
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by PhillyPhan85 on Oct 27, 2009 8:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I certainly do. Theodore did a great job of selling it, and Ovie’s hands in the air helped.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i mean, it would be nice if it were more clear, but there are always going to be subjective calls in hockey. the will of the refs is just something we’re going to have to continue to stomach, forever and ever.
by eeeeee on Oct 27, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now that the Caps have finally scored probably won’t hear the end of how good they are….and not a kind word for the Flyers… sad
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by PhillyPhan85 on Oct 27, 2009 8:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sing while you're winning
Vs. heaped plenty of praise on us while we were on top. All we have to do is win.
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by mikefive on Oct 27, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Wow. What a goal by Ovechkin. I liked the part where he shot the puck and it went in the net. What a great goal. And then Backstrom’s. He shoots the puck really quickly. It’s not a great shot, but he gets it off quickly. My favorite part about this goal was also when he shot the puck and it went into the net. My second favorite part was after the goal. You can’t hear yourself think when the Caps score and that goal horn goes off. It must be that great Washington crowd! What a passionate and loud environment!”
by Ben Feldman on Oct 27, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hah
Reminds me of when Comcast tried to have Dei Lynam as the Flyers’ reporter.
“John, let’s look at your goal here. Eric gets the puck to you, you shoot it and then it goes in. What was going through your head at the time?”
No disrespect meant to Dei as she knows her stuff re: basketball. Hockey, not so much.
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by mikefive on Oct 27, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ben: Can you please ask Stevens questions about ice time if you get the chance? I seriously want to know why they dress Cote (up to 3:08 through 2 periods) and why he put the fourth line out after the Caps scored. With less than 4 minutes to go in the period.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 8:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Doesn’t that one guy announce for the Caps??? Probably got him all juicy when they finally scored so he can ring off some great Caps-related zingers…
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by PhillyPhan85 on Oct 27, 2009 8:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He does...
… though he does a decent job of appearing neutral.
Hell, Emrick calls Devils games and has been a national TV announcer for years.
I’d rather have someone passionate about the game and risk his being a homer instead of someone like Joe Buck. Ground ball up the MIDDLE base hit. Werth scores, and the Phillies tie the game. Yawwwwn.
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by mikefive on Oct 27, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah you really can’t listen to the phillies games with the national announcing crew on. you have to turn down the tv and turn up 1210, which thankfully isn’t on a delay during the playoff games.
by eeeeee on Oct 27, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. I’ve always found Beninatti’s calls entertaining. His homerism is at least balanced out when the Flyers are doing well. And I’d rather listen to the other team’s announcers than ANY non-partisan, national team.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
never get tired of hearing that phrase… “Caps shoot… and a HUUUGE rebound”
by eeeeee on Oct 27, 2009 9:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Win or lose, this has been a damn fun game.
That being said, win.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 9:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Did Briere just forget Theo is a lefty?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 9:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
appropriate time for that replay of the backstrom goal…i guess?
by eeeeee on Oct 27, 2009 9:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
haha, I was thinking the same thing.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup, just keep skating backwards guys, that’s how defense is played
by eeeeee on Oct 27, 2009 9:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Weak.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 9:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
very weak, but you gotta love the way they really stepped up at the blue line and challenged him
by eeeeee on Oct 27, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that’s a problem. But even then, how unlucky are Kimmo and Braydon this year? That puck just grazed Kimmo enough to go top shelf in the corner.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NICE
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 9:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Penalty shot! Yay!
Powe! Eh….
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 9:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he’s an unknown sniper in these situations?
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by IcersGuy on Oct 27, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
…Yeah, I didn’t think so either…
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by IcersGuy on Oct 27, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Garbage.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 9:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well, that won’t be earning him any appearances in the shootout…
by eeeeee on Oct 27, 2009 9:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That was about as bad as you can do without missing the net completely.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He totally fell for the oldest trick in the goalie handbook: Show 5-hole, quickly drop to butterfly. If Powe had deked, he might have had a shot, but he didn’t. Shows inexperience, and also the reason he won’t be getting any experience.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was a crazy stupid pass, there was no way that was getting through
by eeeeee on Oct 27, 2009 9:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well, coburn keeps getting in open space on the PP. it’s nice to see something positive coming from him- could this game mark the turn-around?
by eeeeee on Oct 27, 2009 9:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The PP has looked good, if unsuccessful.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 9:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s looked real good. The chances are absolutely there.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shots are flurrying in at least.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 27, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seems like a lot are going high and wide.
by pintium02 on Oct 27, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lots of shots but not many of them exactly hard stops for Theodore.
by Ben Feldman on Oct 27, 2009 9:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe I’m in uber-negative mode, but I’m very not happy with this game. And the only person I have to blame is… John Stevens. Misdirected?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 9:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The flyers dmen finding themselves thankful that Sloane is not Semin, as they clearly have learned no lesson and continue to back up and freely give that shot from the circle.
by eeeeee on Oct 27, 2009 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we might be getting chances but when do you start converting those chances….our 3rd period performances suck
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by PhillyPhan85 on Oct 27, 2009 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe it is misdirected but Stevens is starting to rub me the wrong way too.
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by PhillyPhan85 on Oct 27, 2009 9:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I just can’t help but compare him to Andy Reid. He might not be a bad x’s and o’s coach, but I don’t trust him to manage a game. Or adjust a game plan if it isn’t working.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve felt that way for a while now. I think there’s been too much talent on this team for a while for it not to be a system issue at this point.
by doubleh on Oct 27, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait, we have a system?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes: up-tempo, chase the puck, and holding leads is unacceptable.
by Ben Feldman on Oct 27, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha, up-tempo? In theory? Because it most certainly is an on-and-off thing, no?
What pisses me off the most is our breakout. It’s the same god damned thing every time. Defenseman passes to a winger, who’s standing still with his back against the boards at the hash mark. He one times (deflects?) a pass to the center who is circling the face-off dot and coming straight up the ice.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giroux 1, Ovechkin 0
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 9:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that haul-down in the corner isn’t a penalty?
by eeeeee on Oct 27, 2009 9:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe a non-call for a non-interference penalty?
Either way, I’d rather that not be called. It’s late, it was cheap, but that’s something the players can take care of themselves.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fair enough. if it was a trend of overlooked penalties in the game (as it so often seems to be), then i’d probably be upset, but overall the refs have been pretty good tonight, so i can’t really complain.
by eeeeee on Oct 27, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All these great saves by Emery, and what do they do? Theodore highlight reel. “Theodore’s been unbelievable! I’ve been so impressed!”
by Ben Feldman on Oct 27, 2009 9:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, I mean… Theo is winning. And he’s faced more shots. And he’s not as talented as Emery, Vezina aside.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also i think that montage confirms what was being said a minute ago- if those are the highlight-reel saves, then the tons of shots we’ve been getting off are just classic Flyers: mostly in the chest or over the net
by eeeeee on Oct 27, 2009 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If I never hear the phrase “The Great Eight” again it’ll be too soon
by eeeeee on Oct 27, 2009 9:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
great loss Flyers, way to lose another lead……..thank god i’m in Ohio without the use of a automatic weapon….i’m done, Good Night
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by PhillyPhan85 on Oct 27, 2009 9:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Theodore made 41 saves. That’s quite a few.
by pintium02 on Oct 27, 2009 9:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just a quick question. How many blown leads have we had this season alone?
by pintium02 on Oct 27, 2009 9:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good question.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s it???
Ah! What about leads we’ve blown, but won in OT or SO?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn’t we do that more with Marty in net? I succinctly recall the last 30 seconds being absolutely excruciating with him sometimes.
by doubleh on Oct 27, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The point is we have five losses and three of them are blown leads. Sixty percent. Too freaking much.
by pintium02 on Oct 27, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry you’re right. i was just thinking about games we’ve lost. when you come back and win the game it tends to soothe the hurt of blowing the lead.
the first time against washington we blew the lead twice before taking the game back, and against boston again we blew it twice before winning in shootout. also we let florida tie us the second time we faced them before the routing began. so, i guess 6 games where we’ve blown leads? 8 blown overall?
by eeeeee on Oct 27, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So the Flyers have blown leads in fifty percent of the games they played in.
by pintium02 on Oct 27, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean, a lot of that is expected in the NHL nowadays, but the fact that the Flyers do it so frequently is unacceptable.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For crying out loud, Might as well change our name to the Scottie Upshalls if we’re going to keep flying through the neutral zone and falling on our ass at the blue line.
by BroadStreetBully on Oct 27, 2009 9:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I feel the exact same as I did when the Phils got swept by the Orioles. Except I still trusted Cholly then.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 9:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m impressed you waited this long.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I confess I had one before the game began, but that was really more of an apertif. I’ve got to practice for tomorrow night!
by doubleh on Oct 27, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still, you’re a bigger man than I
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
She's not a man
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by mikefive on Oct 27, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what, I actually knew that. Just forgot. Apologies
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For those wondering, Cote finished with 3:08. Exactly 0 shifts in the third period.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 9:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So you’re saying that maybe Nodl, Maroon, or hell even Matsumoto could have filled that 23rd skater role a little better?
I don’t follow. =p
by eeeeee on Oct 27, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, I’m saying Oskars Bartulis would have been better. At least then you’re protected in case of injury.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Stevens goes, who replaces him? That’s the problem, I think. There’s Keenan, but who else is out there? Surely there are other good coaches available…
by Ben Feldman on Oct 27, 2009 9:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that’s the only thing keeping me from calling for Stevens’ head.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uhhh...
Denis Savard? Guy Carbonneau? Kjell Samuelsson?
Someone from the 80s has to be available. Is Doug Gilmour interested in coaching? Because he’d be awesome.
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by mikefive on Oct 27, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh! Gretzky’s available.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was just htinking the same thing.
by pintium02 on Oct 27, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
heheheh nice. what about joe nieuwendyk? he’s affiliated with the leafs now, i think, but i’d love to see if he had the chops as a coach.
by eeeeee on Oct 27, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He would probably make a solid coach.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good question
The problem with our losses is that most of them are not like tonight, where we keep pressing and just can’t break through.
Mario said in another thread that the answer would be to do what San Jose did and mix up the core of this team. I disagree, mainly because San Jose tried a new coach before shaking up their team. The Flyers need to try a new coach first.
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by mikefive on Oct 27, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what… Everyone thinks we’re goons, so why not complete the Slap Shot analogy? Have Chris Pronger be Reg Dunlop. Then Mike Richards can be whoever the hell Stephen Baldwin was in that movie I didn’t see.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Peter Laviolette.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 27, 2009 10:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, well if we’re answering seriously… What about Larry Robinson?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The better team lost
If all of the Flyers’ losses were like tonight, I wouldn’t mind so much. Theodore won it for the Caps.
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by mikefive on Oct 27, 2009 9:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How many times is “we ran into a hot goaltender” acceptable? And such a mediocre one at that?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s only acceptable on games like tonight, where a goaltender actually stole the game for his team.
We had a lot of shots on Sunday but few of them were quality chances. Theodore stopped most things which came his way, and that included deflections, rebounds, etc. He also got lucky a lot I think; he lost sight of the puck fairly often.
I hear what you’re saying though. If we only said “We ran into a hot goaltender” on nights like tonight when we actually DO run into a hot goaltender, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
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by mikefive on Oct 27, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha, yeah that’s my point. Theodore was good tonight. I’m just sick of that excuse, even if it’s legit as it is tonight.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, lets not forget there was more than once time where there was an open net and no one could figure out how to put it in there.
by pintium02 on Oct 27, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still don’t like how Stevens’ is handling his bench. TOI for the game:
Lappy – 10:28
Syvret – 8:40
Asham – 8:38
Tollefsen – 8:06
Cote – 3:08
None of those guys are being used properly. None.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 9:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess Stevens just really doesn’t like to see Asham succeed. Maybe he’s a racist. I wonder if anybody else on a three game goal scoring streak would be smacked down to 8 minutes against the Sharks and 8:40 against the Caps?
ps he’s probably not a racist…..but you never know…
by eeeeee on Oct 27, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s no proof that he isn’t a racist…
by Ben Feldman on Oct 27, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stevens is a racist?
Does he have something against Metis people? Let’s trade for Sheldon Souray and find out.
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by mikefive on Oct 27, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And for what it's worth...
… I feel better already.
This thread has gone from “Damn, we lost” to “Stevens is a racist.”
I got nothin’ but love for y’all.
We’ll get ’em on Saturday, otherwise we need to hire Gary Leeman as our head coach. Go Flyers.
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by mikefive on Oct 27, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I second that.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is Asham in John’s doghouse? Otherwise, I can’t fathom why he isn’t playing more. He’s been one of their better players the past few weeks.
by doubleh on Oct 27, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Stevens saw him roll his eyes while announcing his seventh “finalized” line combinations in as many minutes.
by Ben Feldman on Oct 27, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
heheheh, ahh i haven’t laughed like that all night. good way for me to end my time in the thread. good night.
by eeeeee on Oct 27, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, look!
Maybe we can trade Stevens and Jones to the Red Wings for Babcock and Abdelkader or something.
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by mikefive on Oct 27, 2009 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If only Ken Holland were that dumb…
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
… according to that piece, the Wings are in a “transition” year, much like the Flyers were when Stevens took over as head coach! Johnny has “transition year” experience! You can’t put a dollar value on that!
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by mikefive on Oct 27, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How good are you at convincing? I might lobby Homer to pay you if you can successfully swing that deal.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 27, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've never met Ken Holland
… but I’m sure I can convince him that this is the best-ever idea in the history of awesome ideas. I don’t think Homer would need much arm-twisting.
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by mikefive on Oct 27, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so I was at the game, did Emery’s graceful fall when going to the bench make TV? (If it didn’t, he was hauling ass to the bench to get the extra man out when he just fell flat on his face, kinda summed up the whole night)
by NoalB on Oct 28, 2009 12:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Recap is up, let’s move the moaning over there…
http://www.broadstreethockey.com/2009/10/28/1104034/washington-4-philadelphia-2-caps
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