Flyers Make Devils' Opener Hell, Win 5-2
by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 3, 2009 11:13 PM EDT
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Playing their second game in two nights after a convincing opener, it would have been easy for the Flyers to have a let down tonight in Newark.
But instead the Flyers hung tough early and never looked back, twice leading by four before eventually settling for a 5-2 victory over the Devils.
Some assorted thoughts from the second game of the season:
- Five goals from five different Flyers. Any lingering concerns about the scoring depth feared lost with the departures or Lupul and Knuble? Jeff Carter and Mike Richards each scored their second, while Ian Laperriere, Darroll Powe, and Matt Carle each netted their first.
- Ray Emery looked more lucky than good for a lot of the Carolina game, but for the first fifty minutes of this game he was a lot more great than lucky. He fell ten minutes and two goals short of being the first goalie to open the season with two shutouts since Roberto Luongo did it for Florida in 2005, but it's still a start to be proud of. He looked a little rattled, potentially with Florida but once the first goal came, the second was pretty soft. Here's hoping the confidence he started with wasn't undermined by that third period.
- No goals for JVR yet, but two more assists puts his point total for the season at 3. Averaging more than a point per game to start an NHL career is none too shabby.
- Martin Brodeur was absolutely awful in what was his 1,000th career game. Pretty sure the Flyers aren't gonna lose much sleep over spoiling that milestone.
- Dan Carcillo is a lot more known for taking penalties than drawing them, but he did a great job tonight of being a pest and putting the Devils' Johnny Oduya in the box, one night after drawing three penalties against Carolina. If he can keep drawing calls like that, it should help to make up for some of the ones he gets against him.
- It was more than just Carcillo who looked good tonight--the whole fourth line of Carcillo-Betts-Laperriere was incredibly solid. It's gonna be tough for Arron Asham or Riley Cote to get playing time anytime soon with those guys in front of them.
- So much for the Flyers' prowess in the shorthanders category. After going eighty-one games before surrendering a shorthanded goal last season, the Flyers only went one game before giving up a shorthanded goal this season. The Flyers also haven't gotten any SHGs of their own yet after a league leading sixteen last year, but it's still early.
- There are worse things than losing focus once obtaining a four-goal lead, but it still would've been nice to play that last half of the third more solidly.
The dream is still alive. 82-0, baby.
Questions answered (and video) after the jump:
Questions Answered:
- The energy will certainly be in the house to start the game. With the Flyers playing last night, they could be a little fatigued, so do they allow the Devils to dictate the pace at the start? The Devils started out stronger, but the Flyers took a lead in the first and never looked back. Fatigue didn't look to be much of an issue.
- These two teams play vastly different styles. Returning coach Jacques Lemaire is known for his defensive style, while the Flyers are obviously a very up-tempo, offensive team. In these cases, the team that forces the other team to play their style usually comes out on top. Which team is successful in doing that? The Flyers kept this game pretty quick, and the Devils didn't seem particularly intent on slowing things down.
- The penalties. Make it stop? Not perfect, but much better. Only five minors, including one too many men on the ice and one on Emery for playing the puck outside the trapezoid.
- How's Emery hold up on back-to-back nights? Fatigue definitely didn't seem to be an issue for him. He looked sharper tonight than yesterday for most of the game, despite giving up two.
Highlights:
John Stevens' post-game press conference:
Locker Room Interviews with JVR, Laperriere, and Richards:
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JVR, so far so good for the rookie 3 pts (team leading), and a +3. Nice to have a 4th line that you can actually use they are picking up some big minutes keeping energy up for the top lines. More aggressive forecheck is nice to watch, 3rd man making a pinch on the opposing blueline instead of pulling back into the neutral zone, with our defense I like being more aggressive if we give up the odd man rush here and there the D should be able to handle it. Scoring goals and control play 5 on 5 is also really nice to see, last year we relied on PP too much and let the other team control the play at even strength. Hartnell should use an old fashion wooden stick it might cut down on the number of slashing and crosschecking calls he gets because the stick won’t be shattering.
by chrislanci on Oct 3, 2009 11:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
MarioD hasn’t said anything since the game yesterday, i hope hes alright and has his toaster far away from his shower.
by JpH89 on Oct 4, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just watched the game on DVR, but thanks for stalking.
No comment on JVR’s atrocious too many men penalty which resulted in the first goal I see….
by MarioD on Oct 4, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stupid? Yes. Atrocious? I don’t think so. He was very eager to jump in. Can’t fault him for that too much; he’s playing in front of 100+ family and friends in all of his second ever NHL game playing against a team he watched a lot of growing up. He knows he made a bad mistake and called it “boneheaded” after the game and knows he needs to not do that again.
He also picked up two assists, and was a +3. You may think that penalty makes the rest of his performance irrelevant, but I don’t think anyone else here does.
by Ben Feldman on Oct 4, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can quibble over adjectives all you’s like, I’m not partaking.
And I said nothing about his overall performance. But since I got called out, I pointed out the major mistake he made that cost the team a goal.
by MarioD on Oct 4, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MarioD positive as always
Anyone who knows hockey could also blame Hartnell for not busting his ass to the bench if he did JVR was in all alone. But hats off for the nit picking.
by chrislanci on Oct 4, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea that was what I was gonna point out. Hartnell was supposed to be getting off the ice. I really feel like JvR was only doing what he was supposed to do. Granted, you could say that JvR should have been paying attention but anyone who has played hockey knows that when line shifts are happening it is really chaotic with guys jumping over the boards and getting off the ice and it is hard to recognize when its okay to touch the puck. He is young and will learn. No big deal…shame it resulted in a goal but whatever, Flyers got the win, showed some great play and got production for all four lines. Win, win win!
by flyrsfrk05 on Oct 4, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never noticed an angle of video that showed whether Hartnell skated hard to the bench or not. Did you see that, or are you surmising?
I did see JVR looking right at hartnell and then jump over early and play the puck.
by MarioD on Oct 5, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He stopped skating about 10 feet from the bench. Live video would show it.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 5, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The live video was focused on the puck in the devils end, then a close up of JVR grabbing the puck.
by MarioD on Oct 5, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That depends on which feed you’re watching.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 5, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had out of town company and started the dvr at like 3am, so who knows… but I recall looking at the replay, rewinding, and never really seeing hartnell on screen because I was curious if the change was early because Hartnell had been heading off and turned back to play the puck.
by MarioD on Oct 5, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JJ said it
jim jackson even said during that whistle that if Hartnell would’ve skated harder to the bench, that penalty wouldn’t of happened. so i’d place more of the blame on Hartnell than JvR
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by hockey punk on Oct 6, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I personally like that we saw Brodeur was weak tonight and took full advantage. Most of those were stoppable shots, but they buried them anyway.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 3, 2009 11:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In a sense I’m a little relieved that we don’t have to go through the whole season again ‘waiting’ for the first shorthanded goal against. It’s been done, it’s out of the way, and hopefully it won’t happen again. I’ll take that over the one shorthanded goal last year. That was torture.
by Ben Feldman on Oct 4, 2009 2:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think that shorthanded goal was probably so demoralizing that it cost us home ice.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 4, 2009 2:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So far...
Emery +
Pronger +
Lappy +
I think to say that everyone = +
by orangeandblack20 on Oct 4, 2009 3:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Suprisingly...
but yes, definite +. I loved how he baited Andrews into a 4 min PIM! Keep that up and I’ll be happy!
by flyrsfrk05 on Oct 4, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
at home
On the road that is fine for Carcillo but at home I want him to drop the gloves and pummel Andrews into the ice, pests who don’t throw down are cowards, on the road with the lead you don’t need to fight and get the away crowd back into the game, at home regardless of score drop the gloves and make em’ bleed. Don’t be an Avery if you talk the talk you have to walk the walk, Carcillo does and that is why I like him.
by chrislanci on Oct 5, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn’t that after he had already fought in the Carolina game?
by MarioD on Oct 5, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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