Briere Leaves Practice Early with Lower Body Injury
No word yet on whether it's related to his groin problems from last year. David Laliberte has been called up from the Phantoms.
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Here we go, i hope this doesn’t end up being anything serious. I don’t know if i will be able to handle this after yesterdays news of homer fucking everything up, along with Gagne’s injury.
by Nolbs13 on Oct 30, 2009 12:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, things are going really well right now aren’t they…
by flyrsfrk05 on Oct 30, 2009 12:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Crap! Well, maybe now we can just stink all year and get a really good draft pick, firing some GMs and coaches along the way…
by doubleh on Oct 30, 2009 1:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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Incorrect. The Anaheim Ducks own the Flyers’ first round choice this June. The LA Kings own the Flyers second round choice this June.
The Flyers can’t even improve by tanking this year, that’s how big Holmgren fucked up.
by MarioD on Oct 30, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hold on.
In another post you said you had no issues with Pronger. The fact is that we had to give up what we did to get him. That cannot be changed.
So did Holmgren “fuck up” by getting Pronger too? Or is this only a screwup because of the Jones situation? Please clarify.
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by mikefive on Oct 30, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve been very consistent is saying Holmgren fucked up everything. He hasn’t stuck to the four pronged plan he set out for himself, and since July has been only undermining the early success he had with that plan.
- Trading away the future to win now, then getting rid of veteran players in favor of inexperienced players
- Investing heavily in Pronger for the long term, then forcing him to play 30 minutes a night
- Weakening the goaltending to strengthen the defense because the team’s talent balance was too offensively oriented, then re-weakening the defense to strengthen the offense and leaving the goaltending weak.
The Pronger trade in a vacuum I have no problem with. But the Pronger trade in light of everything else is clearly going to go down as a bust.
by MarioD on Oct 30, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“then getting rid of veteran players in favor of inexperienced players”
- Losses: Sbisa (not a veteran- actually a JR player), Draft pick (clearly not a veteran), Knuble (we couldn’t keep him. Period. We wanted to. But the Caps doubled our offer)
- Gains: Pronger (not inexperienced), Pyorola and Reemer (we didn’t want them, but they forced us to keep them, which is what you want rookies to do. Yes Pyorola has been slow, but Reemer is at a PPG. You cannot argue with that. They are +2 and +4 respectively. You cannot argue with that.
“Investing heavily in Pronger for the long term, then forcing him to play 30 minutes a night”
-First off, didn’t you just said the Pronger trade was for the now!?
-Secondly, he’s playing 28:12 a game.
-Thirdly, he played 26:56 last year
-I doubt one minute per game will cost him years down the line
“Weakening the goaltending to strengthen the defense because the team’s talent balance was too offensively oriented, then re-weakening the defense to strengthen the offense and leaving the goaltending weak.”
Thats a lot to argue with but I think I can do it. First off, weakening the goaltending… -Ray Emery= Stanly Cup appearence, cheaper
-Marty Biron= No Stanley Cup appearence, more expensive
-Emery is the 11th best goalie in the league according to his 2.62 GA/G. He’s 15th in the league with a .906 S%. STUD Marty Biron is 0-3-2 (first off… WOW), 3.44 (wow), .891. I’m sorry MarioD, you were right, Biron is better….
Strengthening the D because we were too offensively oriented… ok… then re weakening the D to help the offense and leaving the goalie weak…
-re-weakening the D: (Pronger, Timmonen, Coburn, Carle, Parent, OKT/Syvret) or (Timmonen, Coburn, Carle, Parent, Jones, Sbisa). The first group is better down the line than the second group. How did we “re-weaken?”
by orangeandblack20 on Oct 30, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay. I see your point and, to an extent, I agree. I wasn’t sure where you were coming from with Pronger.
A couple of counterpoints, though:
- Trading away the future to win now, then getting rid of veteran players in favor of inexperienced players
As I said in another post, it’s impossible to tell how Sbisa or any draft pick will turn out. Would I rather have draft picks than not? Sure. But there’s nothing we can do about that now.
- Investing heavily in Pronger for the long term, then forcing him to play 30 minutes a night
Stevens is forcing Pronger to play 30 minutes a night, not Holmgren. Please keep in mind that Stevens and Holmgren MUST have seen something in Syvret during the pre-season – aside from his salary – which made them think he would be ready for the NHL. If Stevens liked what he saw in camp, why does he not use him more now? That has nothing to do with Holmgren.
This issue may be resolved if the pairings become:
Pronger-Carle
Timonen-Parent
Coburn-Syvret/OKT
Even with Coburn’s struggles, I think the 3rd pairing will see more ice time if Coburn is a part of it. This will cut down on Pronger’s ice time.
- Weakening the goaltending to strengthen the defense because the team’s talent balance was too offensively oriented, then re-weakening the defense to strengthen the offense and leaving the goaltending weak.
The goaltending is not weaker; at least I don’t think so. It’s too early to tell. Remember that Boucher struggled with an injury during the pre-season and is not at 100%. Emery is still re-adjusting to the nuances of the North American game, since he played in larger ice rinks with more passing plays last year. If our goaltending is still struggling to remain consistent by Christmas, we’ll essentially be at the same place we were last year. That’s not good, but it doesn’t necessarily make us worse either.
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by mikefive on Oct 30, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1) Its not the outcome, the value of the picks/Sbisa; my complaint is changing philosophy so quickly. Once you sell out for this season, you have to see that through. You can’t reverse course two months later.
2a) First off, anyone who saw something in Syvret is clearly retarded. The organization didn’t see anything in syvret last season when they desperately needed dmen. But suddenly this year he was a regular player?
Also, Randy Jones was in camp on the ice just hours before he was finally assigned to the Phantoms, days after he cleared waivers. I don’t think, now, that there’s any doubt that someone wanted Randy on this team and Holmgren took right up to the deadline before he decided to send him down. The guy most likely to want Randy would be John Stevens.
But there’s nothing to support the notion that John Stevens saw something he liked in Syvret in the preseason. Hell, he scratched him as soon as OKT got healthy in game 3. (And maybe stevens said some things to the media about syvret, I don’t know, but I’m sure if he did he was toeing the company line, not to mention Stevens is never critical of young kids.)
2b) I think Coburn is going to get more rest even strength, and suck up more special teams time. So Pronger, Carle, and Kimmo may see some minutes go down, but OKT/Syvret won’t see their minutes go up.
3) Boucher was not very good before the injury. He was not very good last season. Or two season’s ago. Or any other time in his ten year career except for the spring of 2000.
No one in hockey thinks Ray Emery is a better goaltender than Marty Biron. I don’t know why Flyers fans continue to delude themselves into believing he is.
by MarioD on Oct 30, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1) Its not the outcome, the value of the picks/Sbisa; my complaint is changing philosophy so quickly. Once you sell out for this season, you have to see that through. You can’t reverse course two months later.
I’ll agree with that, so long as such a scenario remains possible.
2a) First off, anyone who saw something in Syvret is clearly retarded. The organization didn’t see anything in syvret last season when they desperately needed dmen. But suddenly this year he was a regular player?
Syvret was called up for a couple of games during last season and played well. They could not call him up late in the year because they did not have the cap room to do so. That was a matter of dollars and cents, not a reflection of Syvret’s play.
But there’s nothing to support the notion that John Stevens saw something he liked in Syvret in the preseason. Hell, he scratched him as soon as OKT got healthy in game 3.
Hell, he even gave Lasse Kukkonen playing time last year. Stevens always gives his seventh guy chances to play. I would not read too much into Stevens’ usage of OKT early in the season. He wanted to see what each player brought to the table, no doubt.
As for Jones, he did not look good at all from what I saw of the pre-season. The last-minute move could have been out of respect to Jones to give him a chance to show that he was ready. Since we’re not part of the team, we’ll never know for sure.
2b) I think Coburn is going to get more rest even strength, and suck up more special teams time. So Pronger, Carle, and Kimmo may see some minutes go down, but OKT/Syvret won’t see their minutes go up.
We’ll see about this. I just hope that Coburn gets his act together, and that Pronger plays closer to his usual 26 minutes instead of close to 30.
3) Boucher was not very good before the injury. He was not very good last season.
Boucher carried the Sharks for a stretch when Nabokov was injured. He went something like 8-1-1 in 10 games. He was solid last year. He even set a record of 5 straight shutouts when he played for Phoenix. Boosh has certainly had his bright spots and should be a steady backup. I’d give him some more time.
No one in hockey thinks Ray Emery is a better goaltender than Marty Biron. I don’t know why Flyers fans continue to delude themselves into believing he is.
Since you can’t speak for everyone in hockey, this statement is debatable.
That aside, I haven’t seen enough of Emery up close to determine whether or not he is better than Biron, but I certainly don’t think he’s any worse.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
by mikefive on Oct 30, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Syvret was called up for a couple of games during last season and played well. They could not call him up late in the year because they did not have the cap room to do so. That was a matter of dollars and cents, not a reflection of Syvret’s play.
That’s totally wrong. He played on March 17 and 20, went -1.
Since you can’t speak for everyone in hockey, this statement is debatable.
Find me any reputable hockey source that says otherwise.
by MarioD on Oct 30, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly, do you want a minor-league call-up defenseman who plays on the third pairing to be a +6 in two games?
I should have clarified “late in the year” as meaning “April” when the Flyers had to sign David Sloane and the other fellow whose name escapes me. To me, THAT’S when they were really hurting for defensemen.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
by mikefive on Oct 30, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, considering they lost two dmen in camp, I consider them really hurting for dmen pre-Alberts trade.
by MarioD on Oct 30, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Syvret had 57 points in 76 games, and finished a +7 last year. I don’t know why you keep singling out Syvret, but there’s literally no data – from this year or last year – that justifies your hate for him. I don’t think anybody looking at those stats, and saying this kid deserves a chance, can be accurately called "retarded".
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 30, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First off, he’s not a kid who’s going to develop, he’s 24 years old.
Second, because he’s not very good.
by MarioD on Oct 30, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carter’s breakout year was when he was 24, as was Syvret’s. Braydon Coburn is 24, so he must be atrocious. And before you use “previous years” as the difference, this is just to prove that age has absolutely nothing to do with anything.
And “because he’s not very good” is not an argument.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 30, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And in 2007-08 in the AHL, he played 63 games, 20 pts, and was -4.
Hockeys Future had him ranked 13th on the Flyers prospect list this spring, behind Sbisa, Marshall, Parent, Ratchuk, Bourdon, Bodrov, and Lehtivuor. They graded him 6.0.
In a write-up this spring, they summarized him:
While Syvret may never become a full-time NHL player, he will continue to be a useful contributor at both levels.
by MarioD on Oct 30, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hockeys Future: Let’s see, what does a 6.0 mean?
Third line forward / No. 5-6 defenseman / Backup Goaltender — generally speaking, players whose game is defensively-oriented, or whose abilities aren’t quite good enough to land full-time duty on the 2nd line, top two defensive pairings, or the No. 1 goaltending position. Think Kris Draper, Stephanne Yelle, Igor Ulanov, Brad Lukowich, Jussi Markkanen, Manny Legace.
So, Hockeys Future grades him as an NHL player. As for picking useless quotes from his page, how about this one?
Syvret is not big, but has strong legs and takes care of his own end with his smarts, positioning and skating ability. Despite the knock on him for his lack of size, he has never missed an OHL game due to injury and he plays big minutes for London.
Again, you have nothing against Danny Syvret except your own biases, with no proof in fact.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 30, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and just how bad has Syvret played this year which makes your hatred worthy? He has 2 points in 8 games, is even on the year (better than Parent, Coburn, and Timonen), and has taken only two penalties (behind only Parent). But since I know you don’t like counting stats, how about rating stats which make him look even BETTER. He has the second best Corsi rating among defensemen, fourth best GA/60 (behind Pronger, Carle, and OKT – who you also think is terrible and unworthy of an NHL spot), second best in SA/60, and second best in SF/60.
But no, he sucks. Except ALL the evidence points otherwise.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 30, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The grade came when he left the OHL in 2005. They rated him back then as a 6.0. The second blockquote was also written in 2005 and based on his play in the OHL.
Last spring they updated that to what would be the equivalent of a 4.5 in the paragraph I quoted.
The Oilers gave up on him. The Flyers last year were desperate for D and didn’t use him. This year they tried to bring Jones through waivers instead of leaving him on the roster. And he gets less than 10TOI because they can’t trust him out there.
These are all indisputable facts that support my dislike of Danny Syvret as a hockey player. You can continue to ignore them all you like, but they are out there and true.
You can post all the ridiculous numbers from this season, but they are based on 84 minutes of play (or less than three games for Pronger) so they are worthless.
by MarioD on Oct 30, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spring 2009 Syvret was graded a 6.0, B. And I have a link with proof, so you’re wrong.
Just because a player gets traded doesn’t mean the Oilers game up on him. The Flyers were desperate for D last year… when they had no cap room and could only afford 1 game try outs? They can’t bring him up in that situation, so, no. Last year doesn’t prove anything.
Again, his TOI doesn’t prove anything. Look at what he DOES when he’s on the ice. Why would you do that? Because it proves that he’s actually quite good while on the ice.
There are no indisputable facts in your piece, or your criticism. There’s nothing for me to ignore since you haven’t cited anything. And the only stats either one of us uses, you dismiss. That’s why I gave you rating stats. It shows that, without John Stevens needlessly sitting him on the bench, Danny Syvret could prove you wrong. But since Stevens won’t play him, you can hide behind your “He sucks because he isn’t playing” excuse, while ignoring the fact that he is actually pretty good when he’s given a chance to play. Look at the rate stats. Which, you know, account for a player’s ice time.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 30, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spring 2009 Syvret was graded a 6.0, B
No. Thats just a copy of his OHL grade. Because the writeup on that very page is what I quoted, which contradicts the 6.0
Just because a player gets traded doesn’t mean the Oilers game up on him.
Thats right. The Oilers gave up on him because after two seasons on their roster, they banished him to the AHL in a year when they weren’t contenders. If they thought he had a future, he would’ve been on the NHL roster growing/getting experience. Instead, they ditched him, then assigned him to a non-AHL affiliate. Then traded him away for a career minor-leaguer.
The Flyers were desperate for D last year… when they had no cap room and could only afford 1 game try outs?
They were desperate for dmen in at several times, and instead used a handful of other AHL callups until they had to use Syvret because his cap hit was lowest.
his TOI doesn’t prove anything
It proves that any statistics about his play are worthless.
You can choose to ignore his entire career in favor of a ridiculously tiny sample size of totally coddled playing time. Whatever.
by MarioD on Oct 30, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just remembered how the ratings work.
6.0 IS his OHL-era grade of potential and never changes. The letters are what they change every year to demonstrate how he’s progressed getting there. B is the rating he got in the spring, which means:
Should reach potential, could drop 1 rating – likely to reach potential, but may have a hole or two in his game that will keep him from reaching his full potential. The
This is consistent with what I said earlier, that the current-level write-up they gave him is about a 4.5. They are not yet ruling out the possibility he tops out at around 5.
by MarioD on Oct 30, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“He will continue to be a useful contributor” is hardly scathing criticism. And it says that he MAY never be a full-time NHLer, but not that he would NEVER be one.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
by mikefive on Oct 30, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“useful contributor”… at both levels. They’re saying he’s a 7th or 8th dman.
by MarioD on Oct 30, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, sorry—I forgot that. Can we still fire people?
by doubleh on Oct 30, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bet Snyder won’t, though, and will fire Stevens instead. He has always given the GM the longer rope than the HC.
by doubleh on Oct 30, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keenan – excellent coach with success everywhere he went
Terry Murray – leading a very good Kings team
Hitch – doing well in Columbus
Maybe he’ll finally learn the lesson?
by MarioD on Oct 30, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
???
Keenan – excellent coach with success everywhere he went
If by “success” you mean “winning the Cup with a completely stacked Rangers team that had almost no way of screwing up,” then sure.
Keep in mind that Keenan did the following:
- Pissed off the entire Flyers team by 1987-88; at one point Lindsay Carson tried to get Dave Poulin to fight Keenan.
- Got the Chicago Blackhawks to the finals, where he lost with them just like he did with the Flyers. He then pissed everyone off and left town for the Rangers.
- Somehow became coach and GM of St. Louis, where he acquired Wayne Gretzky and pissed him off enough that he would sign elsewhere (the Rangers).
- Did nothing with Vancouver, Boston, Florida, or Calgary.
As a Flames fan, I saw a lot of them over the past two seasons due to the advent of GameCenter. He played his top guys over and over again, to the point that they were worn out by the playoffs. (This is exactly what he did in Philadelphia, too. Old habits die hard.) Somehow, one of his top players in Calgary was Todd Bertuzzi.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
by mikefive on Oct 30, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not going to go off on a discussion about Keenan today. Some other time.
I have no problem with him being let go from the Flyers, nor do I necessarily want him back. (Though, I would like to see him in the organization in some capacity, and if the Flyers are somehow in the playoffs in March, and make a coaching change, I’d absolutely hire him for the remainder of the season.)
by MarioD on Oct 30, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, I know for a fact that Ed Snider is very pre-occupied with personal matters right now, so I’m unsure of how much influence he’ll be wielding.
by MarioD on Oct 30, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never understood why we let Hitch go; I thought it was a scapegoat move at the time.
So, with Snider preoccupied, who would make the decisions? Luuko?
by doubleh on Oct 30, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was all very odd. I think Hitch may have wanted out? That was supposed to be a multi-year rebuild, not a seven month rebuild.
by MarioD on Oct 30, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lovely.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 30, 2009 1:47 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Sweet Jesus.
I’m pretty sure someone placed a hex on this franchise. It’s the hex that makes good players get hurt, and turns once-genius GMs into morons.
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by mikefive on Oct 30, 2009 2:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How did noone notice this before? From Frank Seravalli:
Very quietly, Danny Briere has missed practice in each of the last three days since Wednesday.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 30, 2009 2:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Danny can miss practice quietly, can I miss work quietly?
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by mikefive on Oct 30, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends if your boss is as keen (secretive?) as the Philadelphia media.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 30, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because he’s an idiot. Everyone else says Briere did skate this morning and left early.
Seravalli also wrote today, incredibly, that he thinks the Flyers put Jones on waivers to they wouldn’t have to pay his whole salary. Which is utter nonsense, then supported that idea by saying they are already paying Mike Rathje’s salary; it is absolutely impossible to think that there wasn’t an insurance policy on Mike Rathje.
by MarioD on Oct 30, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
somehow i get the feeling that this is all gonna be Powe, JVR, Homer, and Emery’s fault.
by JpH89 on Oct 30, 2009 2:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh please
Who didnt see this coming eventually? Have we forgotten about the past 2 years?
by philiafan14364 on Oct 30, 2009 3:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You guys need to relax. Everyone has their own opinion but damn. I agree with Mario this is extreemely frustrating (I am going through the same thing with my NFL team, the Bills, now that is a bad franchise from top to bottom) and we all discuss it on their SBN site but we don’t rip on eachother. There was a post not to long about everyone being civil. We all have atleast one thing in common….the Flyers. Let’s talk some hockey without getting so mad at eachother.
by Billsfly48 on Oct 30, 2009 4:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Guys, I’m getting sick of coming home and playing police. Please be civil, it’s not difficult.
Don’t get pissed off at somebody just because they have a different opinion than you.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 30, 2009 5:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank you.
I apologize if I come across as losing patience. Bear with me; I was on jury duty this week. (Seriously, I was.)
For real though, since I was the author of the post Billsfly48 referenced, I’d better practice what I preach.
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by mikefive on Oct 30, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol, I have Briere, Gaborik and Kovalchuk all on my fantasy team… craaaaap
by NoalB on Oct 30, 2009 5:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHA
Sorry, that’s just hilarious.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 30, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha, yea it is. Jokinen comin off the bench!
by NoalB on Oct 30, 2009 5:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I said this yesterday and I’ll say it again (hopefully I don’t have to say this again tomorrow): it’s amazing how quickly things have changed. Just three weeks ago, we were viewing the Flyers as this elite team, and now look at this giant clusterfuck.
by Ben Feldman on Oct 30, 2009 5:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Please, I know we’re all angry, but can’t we at least agree to disagree sometimes and not let it get personal? Today has been a crappy sports day, I’ll admit, but this is supposed to be an outlet and not some place where you absorb more grief. If we wanted that, we could just go to some Pens blog.
by doubleh on Oct 30, 2009 6:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
According to Homer, it’s a “slight” right groin strain, and Briere is listed as day-to-day. Not like anyone expected this to be something else, right?
by Ben Feldman on Oct 30, 2009 6:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is that the same side as last year (not to get too personal about Danny’s manly parts) or is it a new strain?
Either way, it sucks of course. Can the Flyers please catch a break?
by doubleh on Oct 30, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Both of his injuries last year were apparently left groin injuries.
by Ben Feldman on Oct 30, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do not let him skate until November 15th.
by MarioD on Oct 30, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and in case you’re curious Mario, Syvret’s GVT so far this year is higher than Braydon Coburn, Ryan Parent, Danny Briere, Blair Betts, Mika Pyorala, Dan Carcillo, Scott Hartnell and Ian Laperriere.
I know that’s your favorite stat, since it takes into account EVERYTHING, so how are you going to continue saying he’s terrible?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 30, 2009 11:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I DON"T CARE ABOUT STATS WHEN A GUY HAS ONLY BEEN ON ICE FOR 80 MINUTES.
Matt Stairs is SOOOOO much better than AROD! Stairs is 1-3 with an RBI, ARod is 0-8. What idiots the Yankees are!
by MarioD on Oct 30, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My God. I’ve finally figured it out. MarioD tries to win arguments by quantity. If he gets proven an ass factually, he mocks the poster, hand waves the facts, and skips to the next argument.
Briere being out sucks, but the Flyers played some of their best hockey without him. Not a big loss.
by BroadStreetBully on Oct 31, 2009 1:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There are plenty of things I could say about Syvret, like the fact that he ranks behind only Blair Betts on the team in Qualcomp. But the fact is that 80 minutes of hockey is statistical worthless, the unreliability of which gets exponentially increased by creating a rating statistic out of it.
by MarioD on Oct 31, 2009 6:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed you have sir. Indeed you have.
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Montreal
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Sat 02/13 | 7:00 PM EST |
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Tampa Bay
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Tue 03/02 | 7:30 PM EST |
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Florida
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Wed 03/03 | 7:30 PM EST |
Last 5 Games
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New Jersey
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Mon 02/08 | W 3 - 2 |
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Minnesota
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Sat 02/06 | L 1 - 2 |
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Edmonton
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Wed 02/03 | L 0 - 1 |
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Calgary
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Mon 02/01 | W 3 - 0 |
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New York Islanders
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Sat 01/30 | W 2 - 1 |
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