Game 11, Preview and Open Thread: Afternoon Hockey! Carolina Hurricanes at Philadelphia Flyers
by Travis Hughes on Oct 31, 2009 12:24 PM EDT
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Carolina Hurricanes at Philadelphia Flyers, Oct 31, 2009 1:00 PM EDT
In a Halloween matinee, the struggling Carolina Hurricanes visit South Philly to take on the also struggling Flyers. These two teams are in similar situations right now, both not playing up to lofty expectations while also bit hard by the injury bug.
Unless you live under a rock, or in some sort of Phillies haze (which is totally acceptable, by the way), you're aware that both Simon Gagne and Danny Briere are injured and out of the lineup. Briere left practice yesterday with groin pain and Gagne will need surgery for two hernias, leaving him out of the lineup indefinitely. Terrible news for the Flyers, but there's also a little bit of good news on the same front as defenseman Ryan Parent and forward Blair Betts both return from injury.
Parent's addition on the back end is a welcome sight to a defensive corps that has struggled all year long. John Stevens will be separating the Kimmo Timonen - Braydon Coburn pairing in hopes to shake up the defense. Kimmo will play with Parent today -- the two were partners for most of last season.
David Laliberte has been called up to take Briere's spot in the lineup and will make likely his NHL debut today. Here are the full expected lines.
Scott Hartnell - Mike Richards - Claude Giroux
James van Riemsdyk - Jeff Carter - Arron Asham
Mika Pyorala - Darroll Powe - Ian Laperriere
Dan Carcillo - Blair Betts - David Laliberte
Matt Carle - Chris Pronger
Ryan Parent - Kimmo Timonen
Braydon Coburn - Danny Syvret or Ole-Kristian Tollefsen
Ray Emery will start in goal for the Flyers. He's opposed by Cam Ward Michael Leighton.
After the jump, some more on the Hurricanes and a few questions to answer this afternoon.
If you thought the Flyers were in bad shape, you should be lucky you aren't a fan of Eastern Conference Finalist Carolina. Losers of seven straight, the Canes are suffering through injuries to Erik Cole and Tim Gleason. Both are questionable for today. Here's more on the Canes, courtesy of Canes Country...
The Hurricanes enter the game with plenty to work on as they try to improve upon their current 13th position in the Eastern Conference.
They are allowing more goals per game, (3.5 average) than every team in the East except for Toronto and Florida. If they keep on the current pace, they will end up allowing 287 goals this season after allowing just 226 last year. (Remember that Anton Babchuk was the problem?)
Not only do the Canes need to shore up the defense, but their scoring is also down. They currently average 2.3 goals per game, which equates to 189 at year end. Last season the team scored 239.
Rough days in Raleigh. Here's to hoping the Flyers can take advantage and get a much needed victory today.
Questions To Answer
- Can the Flyers kick the struggling Hurricanes while they are down?
- How does Laliberte play in his first NHL game?
- Do the changes on the blueline have any effect?
- How do Betts and Parent look in their first games back?
- How does the threat of a SEPTA strike tonight, accompanied by city-wide Phillies phever, put a damper on the crowd today?
Luckily, the first matinee of the season allows us to catch both teams in action today. The games' on CSN locally and on the air at 610 WIP. As always, join us here for the conversation, and LET'S GO FLYERS!
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Leighton in for Carolina. Unexpected, he just had a kid.
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That’s what I read in a few different places.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 31, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
If we can’t beat this team, I’m gonna be severely angry.
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mmmmm leftover pizza hut
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Hartnell’s M.O. rears its ugly head again…. penalty.
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Kimmo just showed the limit of his offensive skills on that one
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Samsonov just ate Carter’s stick.
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Did Carcillo just draw another penalty? Wow.
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HEY! 1-0!
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Weak goal for Leighton
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Nice to see Betts going right after it there, not worried about the shoulder.
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Fell right onto his stick.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 31, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Laliberte! Nice start!
2-0!
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His goal was from about the same angle as Gagne’s, too.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 31, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah he is. When he plays like this, he grows on me
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 31, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Carle! wrap around!
3-0
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I repeat, Carle is big
Nash for 8 More, Baby!
by PhillyPhan85 on Oct 31, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Crap, had no idea this was an afternoon game.
But I like what I’m seeing.
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Wow Hartnell has three points already
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Laliberte as a solid NHLer is a surprisingly convincing Halloween costume.
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He was definitely impressive when I saw him with the Phantoms last season, but I’m surprised he was the first call up.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 31, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I could get used to that accent
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I’m not sure how over/under works in this situation, but I say yes.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 31, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
TWO Flyer nominees in this category
http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=58056&navid=DL|NHL|home
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Glad we’re probably going to win this one, because having the same number of points as the Islanders just doesn’t sit well with me.
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when you put it like that, a win does seem like a must
Nash for 8 More, Baby!
by PhillyPhan85 on Oct 31, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
You know what would be fun? Winning by like fifteen.
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Homer says they’ll have an update on Gagne at 5PM. There are still “conflicting views” from the doctors.
What a bad start to the period. 3-1
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I take it back! 4-1!
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 31, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
We are getting our asses handed to us in this period so far.
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thats the type of response we need when we get scored on
Nash for 8 More, Baby!
by PhillyPhan85 on Oct 31, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Like NOT the fourth line, which was the response in Washington.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 31, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Laliberte with two points
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Yeah, that’s dumb.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 31, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Asham Smash’em
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Did they really just cut away from live action to show Pronger’s eyebrow?
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Emery! Two great saves
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Feels like it.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 31, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Are shots really 16-6 Carolina in this period?
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Meanwhile, how thrilled is Claude Giroux to already be trailing Laliberte in goals on the season?
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That game on Monday is going to be weird. That place is going to be the emptiest it’s probably been ever for a Flyers game.
Yeah, seriously. I’m not happy about the time change and I’m sure a ton of people are in the same boat.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 31, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s so terrible
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 31, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Coburn scores in back to back games. WTF?
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wipe the sleepies out your eyes
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by PhillyPhan85 on Oct 31, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Any idea what the crowd has been chanting?
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dunno. i can’t think of any reason why philadelphia would harbor animosity for an AL team that we see once a year
It’s still New York. AL or not, everybody hates the Yankees.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 31, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
It certainly was “Yankees Suck”. Mainly, the game was out of control, a lot of fans had already left, and somebody held up a sign.
Coincidentally, it was probably the only time I condone a chant for a different sport during a game.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 31, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember when the Flyers were in the playoffs back in 2008 and the Phils were doing a west coast swing. It was late in the game, the Phils were up by a lot, and you could clearly hear “Let’s Go Flyers” chants. In Arizona.
Last year, when the Eagles played SF in SF, during the NLCS, at the end of the game (Phi won 40-26) all the Phi and SF fans banded together and chanted “Beat LA”.
I love it when teams collide like this.
Hell of a win, but man is Carcillo useless.
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Parent / JVR
They said that Parent aggravated the injury he already had… I don’t recall seeing JVR after Alberts boarded him. Precaution?
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
JVR did not play after the hit. Not sure why, but I just looked up the shift times.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 31, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, Parent played the last :38 of the game, so if he aggravated the injury… I have no idea.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 31, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Braydon Coburn scored twice and wasn’t even one of the three stars.
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Didn’t hear a lot of MarioD during this thread. I guess that means a good game for the Flyers. I was there and a few things that I recognized:
1. Carcillo played amazing. He was everywhere, drawing penalties, fighting, forchecking and just played awesome.
2. Betts and LaPerriere are awesome. Lappy blocked a shot with three minutes to go by sprawling out on the ice, then got up and blocked another one. That says all you need to know about him. Betts is just a solid solid defender.
3. Chris Pronger is so calm on the ice, and the whole team plays with confidence when he’s out there.
4. Ray Emery was a brick wall. The only goal he gave up there was absolutely nothing he could do about it. He made great saves all game long.
5. JVR is an absolute stud. He’s going to be an all-star very soon, and is deserving right now of a USA Olympic slot. I don’t no how it works but it would be great to get another Flyer in the tourney.
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