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Injuries Strike as Flyers Beat Caps 6-5 in OT


Well that wasn't the plan.  After resounding wins to start the year, the Flyers came into tonight's home opener poised to shut down Alex Ovechkin and Alexander Semin en route to a statement win.  They got the win, but it wasn't how they wanted to do it.

In a back and forth, mistake prone game, the Flyers came out on top when Danny Briere scored 3:52 into overtime.  The Flyers lost the lead three times, with Washington getting their first lead of the game just under 10 minutes into the third period. 

After the game, Flyers GM Paul Holmgren stated that Blair Betts will miss at least a month due to a dislocated right shoulder injured on a lost faceoff late in the third period.  He also stated that James van Riemsdyk got his "bell rung" and will be evaluated Wednesday.  Obviously, Anthony SanFilippo, Tim Panaccio, and Ben Feldman (thanks for the tip) are all assuming concussion.  For those wondering, he took two shifts in the third period after being helped off the ice, one for 28 seconds, the other for 49.

The game was highlighted by big nights from Ovechkin and Semin for Washington and Mike Richards and Matt Carle for Philadelphia.  The Alex duo each had two goals while Richards recorded his second career hat trick and Carle notched four assists. The Flyers special teams again played an important role as the team converted 3 of 9 powerplay opportunities while killing off 4 of 5 penalties, including over one minute in overtime.

Defensively, this was not a good game for the Flyers.  Nine players finished a minus for the night with only three escaping in the positive.  More so than that though, the Capitals first two goals were scored directly on giveaways at the Flyers blueline:  the first one by Ryan Parent and the second by Chris Pronger.  Throughout the game, both players were constantly going back and forth between making mistakes and making up for them with strong defensive plays.  This is something that will need to be addressed.

Compounding the poor defensive play, Ray Emery did not look sharp in goal.  He made some big saves, and while staring down Ovechkin breaking in alone might not be easy, a lot of the goals he gave up were stoppable.  He finished with 31 saves on 36 shots.

What to take away from the game:

  • Ray Emery needs to play better.
  • Chris Pronger is human after all.
  • Ryan Parent and Danny Syvret need to develop chemistry quicker.
  • Bruce Boudreau is very good at managing his bench, as evidenced by the quick change putting Ovechkin on the ice against Parent and Syvret for the first goal.
  • The Flyers 4th line is very, very good. Only Ian Laperriere was a minus, and he was on the ice for Pronger's gimme to Ovechkin.
  • This team showed some much needed resolve.  Blowing three leads, and trailing with under 5 minutes to go, the team rallied to tie the score, kill off a penalty, and then come back and win the game.  As Ben Feldman and eeeeee combined to say in the Game Thread, "This is what you call a complete team." "Yes sir, if the defense and the goalie falter, the offense is right there to pick up the slack."

Notes from the Wachovia Center (by Travis): I attended the game tonight, so here are a few observations I made that might not have made it through the television or radio coverage.

  • First off, I thought Emery played a little better than Geoff did. He didn't look great, or even good, but there were still portions of his game that impressed me, notably that he's such a well-positioned goalie, he moves post-to-post so well, and always seems to be in the right spot. I thought Brian Startare made an excellent point on WIP tonight, noting that over in the KHL, there's a lot of passing and a lot of tic-tac-toe plays, and playing in that environment may have helped Emery's positioning a ton. I didn't watch him a ton in Ottawa, so it's tough to compare, but he's extremely strong at anticipating the play and getting himself in the right spot.
  • Alex Ovechkin is just good. There's no debating that. But the defense simply didn't play well against him. It's interesting, because just yesterday Pronger talked about how you have to cut down AO's space, and that's the only way to limit his game. Well, he had a ton of space to work tonight and he clearly made the Flyers pay.
  • The defense didn't really have a good game overall, but as several folks have noted tonight, this team seems to know how to pick each other up. Braydon Coburn and Chris Pronger didn't have good games, but their partners, Kimmo Timonen and Matt Carle, picked them right up. The offense, obviously, picked up the D as well.
  • The turnovers were absolutely ridiculous, atrocious, and unacceptable.
  • The power play looked great, while the PK got the job done. The kill didn't look superb, but that's just because Washington looks so potent on their own PP. The Flyers' kill in overtime was a HUGE momentum shift and allowed them to put the pressure on and win the hockey game.
  • Darroll Powe played an awesome game tonight. He took that dumb penalty, but man, especially in the third period, his energy level was through the roof.
  • Boyd Kane made the Caps roster? What the hell?
  • During the national anthem, a pressurized hose that went with the giant smoke machines that were used during player introductions must have come unplugged or something. It made a loud noise and you could see it whipping around the Zamboni entrance. It was out of control and it took the ice guys about 10 seconds to get it under control. It almost hit Lauren Hart in the back, which probably would've severely injured her, but to her credit she didn't miss a beat of the Star-Spangled Banner.
  • Overall, it wasn't pretty, but the team showed a lot of resilience in squeaking out the win. They don't win this game last season. 

Questions and answers after the jump...

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Questions With Answers

  1. How well do the Flyers contain Alex Ovechkin. He's off to a hot start -- league leading six points already -- and he's always tough to stop. Which defensive pairing sees him most (Pronger/Carle or Timonen/Coburn) and how successful are they in stopping him? Not well, but good enough.  With 2 goals, 1 assist, and 7 shots, Ovechkin got his opportunities.  Both pairings saw him a lot, with Pronger seemingly getting the bulk of the workload.  Unfortunately, Ovechkin's second goal came off a turnover by Pronger at his own blueline.
  2. The Capitals biggest weakness is their defense. Can the Flyers potent offense exploit the Washington blueline unit? Yes and yes.  The powerplay consistently found passing lanes, the forwards crashed the net, and the skill players were able to create space in the zone.  But this was a poor defensive game on both sides, with Washington playing from behind most of the game.
  3. Do the Flyers special teams play as well at home as they have on the road early on this season? Also yes.  The powerplay was very good and the penalty kill was effective, especially when needed in overtime.
  4. Decibel level on the crowd? Loud.  Very loud.  But let's see what Travis has to say as he was there...."It varied from time to time, but after that fifth goal, it was certainly up there. Not quite playoff level, but close. But even in the midst of a tie hockey game, I always experience something at the Wachovia Center that I don't anywhere else. At certain points of the game, it gets dead quiet. It's not disinterest though -- it's 100 percent, undivided interest from the crowd. If you've been to a game in Philly, let me know if you know what I'm talking about, because it's hard to explain. It always strikes me as awesome though.

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Those goals were not Emery’s fault. They were just good goals, even the turn around wrister is hard to stop because you dont know how to play it with the player spinning around. The big problem was all the defensive turnovers at the blue line, unnacceptable. Emery wasnt fantastic, but he wasnt bad either.

by bleedorangewhiteblack on Oct 6, 2009 11:09 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t think he was bad, and I’m not saying the goals were his fault. But he didn’t pick up his teammates. Like I said, Ovechkin is tough to stop on his two goals, but the one wasn’t particularly amazing. The first Semin goal (when he turned Kimo and Coburn inside out) was stoppable, but obviously not his fault. Also the two deflection goals were not his fault at all.

But I still think he could have played better. He certainly wasn’t bad.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 6, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

He left some awful rebounds, just as he did on Friday.

The last goal was absolutely his fault. Control your rebounds and that puck doesn’t slide right out front of the crease when it gets kicked in the net (legally).

by MarioD on Oct 7, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

wow

see mario d knows notghin about hockey .. since i play .. imma inform him .. making the first save is the goalies job .. if they are getting to rebounds that is the defensemans fault .. not the goalies .. why dont you learn about hockey buddy

by jack is better than asante on Oct 7, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

“yumma” inform me? Great english.

And here’s some reading, if you’re capable of it, from the late great Roger Neilson. Before instructing how goaltenders should control rebounds, he prefaces by saying;

Rebound control is one of the most important elements in a goaltender’s game.

Go educate yourself.

by MarioD on Oct 7, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

And here’s a six page .pdf instructing on how to control rebounds and where to put them. You’ll notice that nowhere in those six pages do they advise letting rebounds deflect out to the area directly in front of the net.

http://www.mtngoaltending.com/articles/Advanced%20Rebound%20Control.pdf

It even has photos you can look at.

by MarioD on Oct 7, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea

well u dont know shit .. the goalie needs to worry about stoping the first shot .. rebounds are always on the defense for not clearing the puck .. well most of the time ..

by jack is better than asante on Oct 7, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately for Ray Emery, he isn’t playing in the Tuesday night 14 and Under League with you. In the NHL, you have to do more than just block the puck.

by MarioD on Oct 8, 2009 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agree with the above Disagree-er

Emery played really well. Yeah, it’s 5 goals and you can’t give up that many but I saw him make a ton of saves I’d venture to say at least 70% of starting goalies (Biron included) wouldn’t have made. Without the change to Theodore who also played very well for the Capitals, that explosive offensive game could’ve come out looking like a 9-7 football score.

Also, to the post below, I actually find that he gives up a lot less rebounds than most goalies and seems to actually concentrate very hard on limiting rebounds. Not sure what game you were watching…

by Will21 on Oct 7, 2009 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Home Opener

Postgame said it and I agree—home openers tend to be somewhat sloppy affairs—and this one was no different. At least they found a way to win this one, when in the plast year this would have been a most definite loss.

by doubleh on Oct 6, 2009 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Also, it is still early in the year. The hockey tends to be fast paced, sloppy and exciting because the players are ready to go (just like the fans). I am not concerned. The defense still has time to work out the kinks. Emery was not fantastic but he played fine.

It was just one of those fast paced, goal scoring games . . . Not sure how else to explain it. They are gonna happen.

by Mitchell Green on Oct 6, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Caps fans were saying that the Caps got off of their game—playing fast-paced, quick-fire style hockey is something the Flyers excel at and a style not well-suited for the Caps. They need to play a more controlled game.

When most sports seasons start the defense is slower to develop. NBA, baseball, football all start out higher scoring affairs in the beginning of the season and (hopefully) develop into tighter games as the season wears on (unless your team sucks).

by doubleh on Oct 6, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fast paced, quick-fire style hockey is what the Caps do best I think. Usually when teams start trying to trade off chances with them the Caps come out on the plus side. They do it while controlling the puck though.
I think what killed the Caps were all the penalties and some softies by Varly.

The Flyers powerplay is very dangerous just like the Caps powerplay (usually is) — they can’t take 9 penalties and expect to win. I think that’s where they got off their game.

I agree with the rest of your post though.

One guy just drove his semi as a float. I guess semis are cool.

by zephyr on Oct 7, 2009 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wanted to add that it’s probably not the best idea for the Caps to play the Flyers like this anymore but it probably won’t stop them. They try to play the same against whoever they are playing.

I saw this quote from Hartnell that sums up in a way what you and I were talking about:

Hartnell said the Capitals are “so fun to play against; they’re go-go-go. They’re very offensive, and if you check well and come back hard, you’re going to get opportunities the other way.”

One guy just drove his semi as a float. I guess semis are cool.

by zephyr on Oct 7, 2009 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

what an awesome game… here’s to a full – healthy season of danny briere game winners!!! sucks we have to let in so many goals. saying goes; same old shit – different year… but we have to acknowledge the caps are a top notch team so they will score some damn goals…

boo versus and sucky SD tv- flyer fans with directv are getting jobbed out of HD games because their favorite team has interests in direct’s major competitor… we should petition this because no one is winning here…

by fitzy first on Oct 6, 2009 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Coburn also had a pretty awful game. Most noticeably, he got beat bad one on one for Semin’s first goal and he was out of position causing Timmo to take that penalty with a minute to play.

I found that to be a terrible game to watch, and with Betts out a month we’re going to see a lot more 10+ goal hockey games in the weeks to come.

by MarioD on Oct 7, 2009 12:10 AM EDT reply actions  

o yes

because a fourth line player not playing a lot is going to hurt our defense that bad .. wow your a genius

by jack is better than asante on Oct 7, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t let the facts get in the way of your idiocy!

Flyers TOI per Game Leaders Amongst Forwards:


Mike Richards
Simon Gagne
Jeff Carter
Danny Briere
Scott Hartnell
Blair Betts

Oh, look at that! Blair Betts is sixth amongst forwards in time on ice. 4th line minutes indeed!

by MarioD on Oct 7, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea

now show us the even streatgh minutes … beacuse he kills penaltys .. thats what hes here for

by jack is better than asante on Oct 7, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

So he’s a top penalty killer and that’s why you said losing Betts is:

not… going to hurt our defense that bad

Keep up the consistently sound reasoning.

by MarioD on Oct 8, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I updated the post with my thoughts, if anyone gives a hoot. Certainly wasn’t a pretty hockey game, but it was an exciting/stressful one to attend, for sure

Also, I saw Eklund at a steak join after the game. What a joke.

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by Travis Hughes on Oct 7, 2009 2:25 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree Emery seems to be playing the angles very well.

Powe took two awful penalties in the first period. Not sure which you are referring to, but he got knocked down at the boards and put a leg lock on the checker to draw a tripping penalty and then he took an interference penalty for jumping on a defenders back and they went into the o zone chasing a dumped in puck.

by MarioD on Oct 7, 2009 2:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like the new photo. When I wrote this, there were about 4 photos available.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 7, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, and one more thing I forgot to mention. Carle set a Flyers record for most assists in a period by a defenseman, four in the second. Kinda cool.

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by Travis Hughes on Oct 7, 2009 2:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Carle

What do you think Carle’s ceiling is? He was projected as a possible top 2 defenseman when he was a rookie in San Jose. Tampa first traded him for Dan Boyle and then for Eminger + Downie. Big difference, and his value on the ice got confusing. Now playing with Pronger, he looks like the guy who was a rookie in SJ. So how good is Matt Carle?

by thasmin on Oct 7, 2009 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve been big on Carle since about March of last year. He’s quietly doing all the things Kimmo Timonen does. He’s very good with the puck, blocks a ton of shots, throws his weight around occasionally, and has great offensive vision. That said, I don’t see him being your typical #2 Dman. I think this year will be his best, since he has Pronger next to him and Timonen/Coburn sharing the ice time.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 7, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Caps goals

Ovechkin’s goals were a result of the Flyers needing to make a line change after their power play. He doesn’t kill penalties and the Flyers know he’s coming on the ice as soon as their power play is over and they need to get Pronger or Timonen on the ice (whichever is fresher). Both times, the Flyers turned the puck over because there was one defenseman changing and the one with the puck had nobody to pass to.

by thasmin on Oct 7, 2009 7:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Can I just say that I love that picture with Danny Briere celebrating and all the fans in the background. It brings so much joy to my heart. Travis you are a lucky man. I wish I could have been there last night!

by Mitchell Green on Oct 7, 2009 8:54 AM EDT reply actions  

I was there, too.

Where were you, Travis? I’m in 214 this year. And why, exactly, was Eklund hanging around? Does ANYONE take him seriously?

Early season hockey is a hot mess for sure. It seems that, in the new NHL, there are a lot of 5-4, 6-5, 7-6 games early on before teams settle into their defensive systems. So the fact that the defense did not have its best game last night – as Emery did not – is not necessarily a concern to me. If the trend continues it will be, but the other wins suggest that this will not be the case. I am sure that they’ll clamp down defensively as they adjust to the grind of the season.

I don’t put too much stock in early-season games overall, though they do give you glimpses into a team’s psyche I think. Last year we definitely would have lost a game like that, but last night we found a way to win. It’s hard not to like the end result, and it’s nice to feel confident in the Flyers’ ability to get the job done. That wasn’t always the case last year. I felt confident that we would win last night, even when we were down in the 3rd.

While Emery was not at his best last night, he wasn’t horrible. Semin’s first goal was NASTY. He faked out Coburn and Emery at the same time. Good luck stopping that one. The Capitals’ first line in particular was a beast last night. I can see why they’ve been scoring a lot. Goaltending remains a question mark for them, as it does for us. More will be revealed as time goes on.

Here’s hoping that Betts and/or Reemer are not out for too long. In the Inky today, Sam Carchidi suggested that Darrol Powe will become the 4th-line center and Asham will be on the 3rd line, assuming Reemer does not miss any time. Can’t Laperriere play center? Why not have him between Asham and Carcillo, and keep the 3rd line intact (again, assuming JVR can still play)?

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Oct 7, 2009 9:33 AM EDT reply actions  

I was in 216 on Tuesday. And no, nobody takes Eklund seriously except for the Flyers who give him access to press row. It boggles my mind.

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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

my thoughts

Semin-Ovie-Blackstrom is the best line in hockey by far and you can’t make mistakes or you will be paying. The caps aren’t as deep and have a piss poor Defense, Mike Green’s offense aside. Good game yet crazy game, 1st period had decent checking then the flood gates opened and river hockey started up. Fun to watch if your team gets the two points but if you lose that game I would have been aggravated.

Contributing to this game was horrible calls the by the guys in strips, luckily for us more of those calls went our way, something that does’t happen to often. Betts injury sucks, Lappy moves to center Asham to the wing will get the job done. I hope JVR is alright hate to see a young guy get deadly concussions so early in his career. All the calls cost the “kid line” a lot of ice time in the game and they couldn’t get anything going.

What this game does show is that this our team can win in many ways, defense, goaltending and scoring depth. If one phase falters like last night another one is capable of picking up the slack. Bottom Line two points is two points. Thursday should be fun Phillies to Flyers-Pens good day to take a half day at work.

by chrislanci on Oct 7, 2009 11:07 AM EDT reply actions  

The caps aren’t as deep and have a piss poor Defense, Mike Green’s offense aside.

They are deep with probably 9 NHL level defensemen. They only have one top-2 and three top-4s though. A common misconception.

Hope JVR is okay too. Haven’t found the time to see him in person yet. High expectations.

For the Flyers—> better D
For the Caps—> better D, more disciplined play (this is why IMO they lost, or at least the biggest reason: 9 minors)

by red army line on Oct 7, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Word from Philabright is that JvR does not have a concussion which is good news! However, they are still not sure if he will suit up tomorrow night against Pittsburgh.

by Mitchell Green on Oct 7, 2009 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

More bad news is that because of Bett’s injury Riley Cote will be activated :(

Also, Aaron Asham will probably start in place of JvR.

by Mitchell Green on Oct 7, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Irony...

The goaltender that allowed the most goals in the game got the win (Emery) and the goalie that allowed the fewest (Theodore) took the loss. Doesn’t happen that often, I bet.

Emery actually played pretty well, in that there really was only one goal he probably should have had (Semin’s first) and even then, that’s a tough one. Ovechkin’s goals were tough on anyone, especially when he broke in along after Pronger misplayed the puck. There’s a reason Ovie has 2 Richard Trophies in his dacha. The Morrison goal was kicked in (whether with a deliberate kicking motion or not is debatable…)

In reality, the only goalie who didn’t play well was the one who got off without a win or loss, Varlamov.

I will say this, the Flyers need to play the game differently next time the play the Caps later this month, as getting into an up-and-down match with the Caps is not a way to beat them often…

But it’s fun to watch.

Let's go Caps!

by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 7, 2009 1:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree the Flyers need to play them differently. And I disagree that it was fun to watch. That game was painful to watch due to all the defensive mistakes. If the Flyers lost, nobody around here would be saying it was “fun to watch”. I’m glad they escaped with a win, but that isn’t the way the Flyers should be playing.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 7, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think non-Caps/Flyers fans probably thought it was fun to watch. Minus a couple egregious calls (Clark and Laich GI) and the two terrible goals by Varlamov I actually enjoyed most of the game. I also don’t think BMo’s goal is even debatable; it surely hit his foot but there was definitely no kick as the rule has been implemented the last few years.

If you're after gettin' the honey, then you don't go killin' all them bees.

by Rob Parker on Oct 7, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

The game was eerily similar to the Twins-Tigers game which actually also ended in extras not minutes before this one. Same score, too. Also, filled with defensive mistakes, lots of offense and wildness. Weird.

by doubleh on Oct 7, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno...

…occasionally I like an up-and down game. I’d like it more if the Caps win, but that they came out of there with a point, I can live with that. The Caps have 6 tough road games in the East this year (2 each at Boston, Philly and Pittsburgh) and at the pace they’re on for those, they’ll get 9 points. That’d make me a happy camper.

Let's go Caps!

by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 8, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm really happy with that win

The Flyers didn’t play well last night but still they found a way to win. That’s what great team do, they always find a way to win.

by MathB on Oct 7, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Ovechkin vs Richards

In the recap of the game on nhl.com, it said that this rivalry started in the olympics when Richards and Ovechkin played for Canada and Russia respectively and Richards had a huge hit on Ovechkin that injured his shoulder, and Canada went on to win. Does anyone know where I can find a video of this hit?

by Parduno on Oct 7, 2009 7:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Good freaking luck. I’ve tried so hard to find video of it, or even a good write up of how it went down at the time. Also, it was World Juniors, not Olympics.

If you're after gettin' the honey, then you don't go killin' all them bees.

by Rob Parker on Oct 8, 2009 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

When Vs. said they hate each other, I immediately thought that’s ridiculous. Richards hates Crosby. Hates him. And I love it. But Ovechkin? They play essentially the same game. Both score goals and love the physical side of the game. Ovie is better at scoring, Richie is better defensively. But there has to be a great deal of respect for each other there. Am I way off base here? Do they actually dislike each other?

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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think there’s something to their not liking each other, but it’s not really due to anything off the ice. It’s a rivalry, and these are two of the best players in the league going at each other hard. I don’t think they try to injure each other, but if they can put the other one off their game a hair, then it helps their team win.

Of course, I don’t think either of them were able to accomplish that in the game, as both had great games…

Let's go Caps!

by MikeL-Pivonka on Oct 8, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

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