Game 4, Preview and Open Thread: Battle of PA Resumes, Penguins at Flyers
Pittsburgh Penguins at Philadelphia Flyers, Oct 8, 2009 7:00 PM EDT
Pittsburgh Penguins (2-1-0, 4 pts) at Philadelphia Flyers (3-0-0, 6 pts)
Wachovia Center - 7:00 PM ET - Philadelphia, PA
TV: CSN Philly HD, FSN Pittsburgh HD
Radio: 610 WIP (internet stream), XM 207, Sirius 217
This is the open game thread.
Behind Enemy Lines: Pensburgh

Chris Pronger was brought to Philadelphia for several reasons, but one of them is quite clear: to shut down the Pittsburgh Penguins. He'll get his first opportunity tonight when the Flyers' cross-state rivals visit the Wachovia Center.
Pittsburgh is coming off an ugly 3-0 loss to the Phoenix Coyotes, and there's no doubt that they're going to want to turn around a flat, lifeless performance. The fact that they're coming into South Philly tonight is just extra reason to get pumped up -- not that either team is going to need it.
The Flyers have Riley Cote, Arron Asham, and Ole-Kristian Tollefsen all in the lineup tonight, partly due to injury, partly for toughness. Ian Laperriere, Dan Carcillo, and Pronger are still there too, of course. Eric Godard and Mike Rupp define the toughness in Pittsburgh, but let's be real here.. that word really isn't in their dictionary.
The orange and black proved on Tuesday night that they can hang with the best of the best on the offensive end, but they're going to need a better defensive effort if they expect to beat Pittsburgh tonight. Against Washington, the defense looked out of sync and just straight up sloppy with the puck. It barely allowed the Flyers to squeak out a win against the Caps and it's not going to work against the Penguins, who have better goaltending and a better defense.
It'll be interesting to see which defense pairing goes against Sidney Crosby tonight. Pronger and Matt Carle saw the most action against Alex Ovechkin the other night, but Kimmo Timonen and Braydon Coburn have had success against Crosby in the past. Either way, Crosby and Evgeni Malkin will both have their hands full with the Flyers defense tonight.
After the jump, expected lines for both teams and questions to answer...
Pittsburgh PenguinsPascal Dupuis - Evgeni Malkin - Ruslan Fedotenko
Matt Cooke - Jordan Staal - Tyler Kennedy
Mike Rupp - Craig Adams - Eric Godard
Brooks Orpik - Sergei Gonchar
Mark Eaton - Kris Letang
Jay McKee - Alex Goligoski
Marc-Andre Fleury
Simon Gagne - Mike Richards - Mika Pyorala
Scott Hartnell - Jeff Carter - Danny Briere
Aaron Asham - Claude Giroux - Darroll Powe
Riley Cote - Ian Laperriere - Dan Carcillo
Defense
Chris Pronger - Matt Carle
Kimmo Timonen - Braydon Coburn
Ryan Parent - Ole-Kristian Tollefsen
Scratches
Forwards - James van Riemsdyk, Blair Betts
Defense - Danny Syvret
Goalies
Ray Emery
Brian Boucher
Questions To Answer
- Which defense pairing sees time against the Crosby line? Effective? Repeat question replacing Crosby with Malkin.
- How does Ole-Kristian Tollefsen look in his Flyer debut?
- Does Aaron Asham send a message to John Stevens and earn his job back on a regular basis? Same goes for Riley Cote.
- Offensive dynamo Matt Carle leads the Flyers with six points. An encore, perhaps?
- Can Ray Emery outplay Marc-Andre Fleury?
7 PM on Comcast SportsNet. Radio on 610 WIP. As always, join us here for the discussion and LET'S GO FLYERS!
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I’d like to see Timonen/Coburn v. Crosby and Pronger/Carle v. Malkin. Also, hopefully match Richie’s line against Malkin, Carter against Crosby.
I know the forward matchups might be unpopular, but I like keeping Briere away from the most explosive player. I think Briere can catch up with either Kunitz or Guerin, whether he is aggressively backchecking or not.
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Pick us up, Flyers!
It’s bad enough that the Phils lost today. Let’s not lose to the Penguins. If we do, at least let it be in the shootout because that’s a stupid way to win or lose a game anyway.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Eric Godard and Mike Rupp define the toughness in Pittsburgh, but let’s be real here.. that word really isn’t in their dictionary.
Maybe not, but “championship” is.
<3 Hugs <3
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Well that didn’t take long.
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By that I meant both Frank’s comment and the penalty.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh man, this isn’t a fun start. This is exactly what happened in last night’s Pens/Coyotes game. Stupid penalties
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And the Flyers/Caps game from two nights ago.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Wonderful start.
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Come on now, he’s ugly enough.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
its interesting how people don’t comment on rival blogs during the baseball games…
by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Oct 8, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you still doing that Malkin learns English thing? That was hilarious.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah but he’s getting very fluent. It may be in its final year
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PG violence… That’s strangely unusual in Philly
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
At least Malkin is on my fantasy team…?
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Is that excusable? I’m not sure… I was uncomfortable with Johan on my team, but I quickly traded him.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
It was auto-draft, not my fault.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
i feel a little betrayed by this comment
by phish'n on Oct 8, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
haha, +1
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Deep apologies. I hope Happy Gilmore takes off his skate and stabs him.
Better?
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
And there’s the PG-13 violence!
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Traffic must be ridiculous right now. Nobody is there yet.
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Makes sense with the time the Phils got done.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s what happens when 46,000 people try to leave an area while 19,000 others try to enter, I guess.
yea 2+ hours to leave for many
by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Oct 8, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish they were leaving under better circumstances
by chillicothe20 on Oct 8, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
not thinking about it till sat night when i’ll be in red sox land…
by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Oct 8, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
nah it’ll be fine, pedro will be lights out as long as the cold doesn’t keep him stiff, anyway go flyers
by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Oct 8, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think I ever like someone (Giroux) playing the puck back into the defensive zone against the Penguins. Ever.
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Terrible bounce on Carter.
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Wow Hartnell really has a great mop this year.
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That’d be the ugliest poster ever created.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
We call him a savant. It more or less explains “the look”
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Maybe one day you’ll realize it really isn’t a conspiracy!
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Can I cheer when Malkin gets me fantasy points by going to the box?
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Yes.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely seems snakebitten so far.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Carter should’ve put that through the back of the net.
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Pronger seeing time against both Malkin and Crosby, it seems.
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Timmonen down. Didn’t get also get hurt from blocking a Pens shot before? That was the blood clot right?
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Can’t remember. I just know he was out for a Pens game or two, but I can’t remember if it was in the Pens series or not
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But i think you’re right. Now that I think about it he didn’t start the series so it had to have been against the Habs
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I really hope Pronger never fixes that gap in his teeth.
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Richie is a different person on and off the ice. It’s funny.
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Perfect touch by Coburn.
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Jesus guys
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Pens fans are just as surprised as you are. Staal normally shoots 20 ft wide
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Turnovers…
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Asham drops the gloves, nobody else did. Not smart.
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I don’t really know what went on there. All I know is it took too long to sort out
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Hey, we get a power play. Looking again, it was all started by the Pens, who got angry because Carle hit Malkin
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Yeah. What Letang did was breaking the code. 3rd man in, even though it wasn’t a fight, and even though Carle could have easily gotten called for holding.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Timonen has to put it in the empty net.
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if he didn’t pass it that could’ve been goal
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You’re not allowed to push the stick away like that. That should’ve been a penalty on the Flyers
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Agreed
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Oddly similar to the Phils today… no luck.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
And making really bad “fielder’s choice” decisions, double clutching when you picked a guy off first, any of those things really.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Ugh, I feel like if we were winning we’d be forgetting about the Phils for the time being, but losing is just pissing us off more.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow Emery go lucky there
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Think Sid’s stick may have been above the post anyway. Don’t think it would’ve been a goal but doesn’t matter either way.
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What’s a Sid?
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
no Sidney Crosby. Check it out. It’s on the Cup.
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It would be pretty funny if the guy etching the Cup was a Flyers fan and did that just to be a d***
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Oh I would be. Because a Flyers fan would literally be etching every single Penguins player’s name onto the Cup. So he’s allowed to mess up one. The rest is just torture
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by FrankD on Oct 8, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’d replace Crosby with Richards just to be a dick.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I love how Frank puts asterisks there, and Travis just says it. haha.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, that’s fine. The respect is appreciated. It’s just funny to me. I’ve been on a “I love Philly fans” kick lately.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
The rule: I’m allowed, you’re not.
haha
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Sidney Richards.
Perhaps the one thing that could unite the two cities.
Nah.
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Crosby avoiding touching other men. That’s odd. HIOOOOOOO
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ba dum chh
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
It had sarcasm AND a gay joke. Consider my horn tooted.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Watching Coatesy’s Corner, I really miss Keith Primeau.
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This exchange Travis had at Pensburgh was classic. We’ll be getting that all year, won’t we?
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This must be what the Mets felt like this season, minus the being bad at sports thing.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Uh…I… Shit. You almost made me feel bad for the Mets there. Almost.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
When the Phillies played the Pirates in Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh fans were taunting us with Stanley Cup stuff. We were, like, wrong fricken sport, losers.
hahaha beat me to it
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s because they know they can’t say anything good about the Pirates
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Oh I know. And they keep the concourse open like, all year long (or at least for a few months when the weather is still nice)
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They want people to see the stadium, I guess
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
thats a terrible argument considering the phils are WFCs
by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Oct 8, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha, Pittsburgh fans thinking logically? Come on…
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe so. And if you guys win this year (haha) then we’ll be like, “Whatever, we did it first. And better.” Or something along those lines
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RICHARDS IS AWESOME!
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Haha, I KNOW!
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish I had DVR so I could record that.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
whatd he do i’m in class for 15 more min…
by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Oct 8, 2009 8:11 PM EDT reply actions
“I’ve got 71 on a hold…”
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
BRIERE!
Hey, we get a bounce…
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Pitt comes back on the next shift again though. Gotta stop.
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With another turnover.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
We should make jackets. I feel like I’m constantly defending him to everybody.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s looked great so far this year.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I liked Crosby grabbing Carle’s jersey on that forecheck, no penalty, and still losing the battle.
Not a complaint, FrankD, just an observation.
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Is all good. He probably should’ve hit the gas and tried to get to the puck instead.
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hahahaha
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I love watching Stevens yell at his players. Reading his lips after that goal, I gathered “F***ing bench. See what happens?”
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Big kill here
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Turnovers, AGAIN
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Pens annoucers saying Pronger broke Malkin’s stick on that poke check which led to the stick breaking on the shot. Said it was a good play
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I’m not even going to take that credit. Announcers are ridiculous.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
We’re under Malkin’s skin I think.
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COBURN!
Oh, wrong net.
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just to let you know I won’t. To clear the air
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haha, easy now. We’re all good sports.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Do we hafta?!
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Better get it back RIGHT NOW
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Boosh needs to start against the Ducks. Not that Emery’s been horrible, but something needs to change and I think Emery just needs a game to rest.
Wow I was just ready to curse Kunitz. Dumb pass
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Does Fleury up his game against the Flyers?
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He sat against the Coyotes. Brent Johnson and his awesome Led Zeppelin mask played.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s cool, only saw it when I went on Pensburgh before today’s game. I would have had no idea either.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
No way
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s been pretty solid in all three starts so far. He’s had to make some ridiculous saves. It’s nice to see, but also a concern directed toward the D
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Coburn being punished that shift? Parent playing with Timonen
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Flyers have no energy right now
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What a pick by Pyorala… matched by Fleury (go figure)
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I hate when Crosby makes blind passes like that.
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Emery’s performance is on par with Hamels shitting the bed earlier tonight
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Emery has looked fine
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, I agree with Emery’s performance being on par with Hamels. What I disagree with is the presumption that Hamels “shit the bed.” Both looked shaky, but were not helped out by their defense. At all.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Not accurate.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Staal taking a run at Kimmo? Glad the Penguins haven’t changed. Bush league.
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Not really. Looked like Kimmo embellished a little bit too
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embellished, but the play was long gone and Staal hooked his arm under Kimmo’s. Maybe “taking a run at” was an exaggeration, but Staal taking a penalty on that play was certainly “bush league”
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
not arguing that factor. Taking the call when on the PK is beyond stupid
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Long two-man advantage. Get at least one before the period, boys.
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Hockey game folks!
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See, now I thought it was an elbow to be completely honest. Even on the replay it could’ve been a penalty if they called one.
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Nice job of taking that hit by Briere
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things to take away from that period:
dont score on yourself
dont turn it over
and dont make bad changes
Also, Coburn should never talk to Randy Jones before a game. This is what happens.
by feelingkettle on Oct 8, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Jones still with the team as the 7th d-man or is he out of town?
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That period could’ve been much worse. Not bad only being down one.
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I think you spelled “git” wrong…
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
A lost a hand of poker in AC to a guy wearing a camo jacket and a camo hat that said “Git R Dun.” I’ve never been so insulted in my life.
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Did you know
larry the cable guy is actually from Chicago and doesnt speak like that?
It’s all an act, sorry to crush all of your dreams
It doesn’t surprise me at all. Just like Ned Mancia.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Mencia*
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Come on now.
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Too busy on the check to realize there was a loose puck in his skates.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree with JJ. Great shift by Asham.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Cap’n is alive
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Dupuis gets a free arm around the D’s shoulder… no call.
Again, not whining, just sayin.
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Parent has GOT to take the body on Malkin there.
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Looked to me like he tried and Malkin still beat him
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I see what you’re sayin, but it was definitely a weak attempt. He waited too long, then was too stiff, and ended up just throwin a shoulder up at him.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Righto. only way to stop that is to stand him up.
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Good
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
You have free NHL Center Ice if you have a cable box or satellite
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
The one I had died, and I’ve not found another.
by chillicothe20 on Oct 8, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Good shift by Carcillo and Pyorala. It can’t be long until Mika pots his first.
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I really wish Gagne would take the body. Just once. Even if it’s just a bump.
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Ugh. Seriously.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
He literally just threw that puck away, afraid of the hit. He had no idea where any of his teammates were, so he obviously couldn’t see that he was passing it to NO ONE
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you need a beer.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Well you should do what I do: Put the wine in a pint glass. You fill it up more, and drink it faster. It’s all the mental image.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
if we are down 2 with 5 to go, itll be over
by chillicothe20 on Oct 8, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Hit the guy!
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Seriously. I saw three sticks hacking at his feet
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Coburn to the box… fitting, really.
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And I don’t even remember Jones having a game this bad. That’s saying a lot.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
The Flyers need a whipping boy. Now that Jones left, the torch has been passed onto Coburn.
by feelingkettle on Oct 8, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s a stretch.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok then. Coburn is playing the worst D game by a Flyer tonight since Rathje’s last game. Is that better?
by feelingkettle on Oct 8, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Until Briere gets hurt. Or Emery has a bad week.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
What a terrible day. Phils lost, my car broke down and I missed work. This isn’t helping.
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That certainly is a bad day. Although, missing work might have been a positive.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh, I get paid hourly and need the money for said car.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Offensive pressure, Flyers? Remember that?
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Score one quick here and it’s still a game, folks
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If you’re going to fake the shot, get Flower to go into the butterfly, the LAST thing you want to do is aim for the logo.
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I know the logo looks stupid, but stop hitting it with the puck guys.
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Oh Braydon…
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And Coburn gets booed. It only took 34 minutes. And JJ defends him. As if the fans only remember the bouncing puck.
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54*
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
This team needs a big shift from Richards right now. They look disinterested.
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Even if they don’t score, I’d like to see some energy.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Hah, touche sir
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Prediction: Coburn redeems himself, gets a goal, an assist, and a fight in the final 2 minutes. Fans forgive.
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haha, of course not. but two men in the stands will have a very homoerotic embrace afterwards, making all right with the world.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Crosby comes from the other side and gets a loose puck in the corner before Timonen does from three feet away. Again, the energy level.
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The team quit as soon as Kennedy scored.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Rangers beat the Caps.
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Carter….
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Fleury is really having an issue holding onto his stick tonight
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haha Fleury tried to steal Hartnell’s stick. He’s seriously such a head case.
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Still time left, somehow…?
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Orpik
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
He plays a physical game. I wouldn’t say he’s dirty but I’d say he definitely puts himself in more positions where a hit will be perceived as dirty
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I think the same could be said about a lot of the Flyers players.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Kunitz
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 8, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I like what I saw there though: Letang defends his goalie, Hartnell defends his Captain.
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Are they seriously saying Hartnell bit Letang? Is Scott Fartsmell Mike Tyson?
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Stop that nonsense.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I hate that damn British spelling too!
But seriously, that argument no longer makes too much sense.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
That was a goalie interference call though.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Well up until the final few seconds there it was another good game between these two teams. Have a lovely night folks. Catch you guys again in December.
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Take care Frank. As always.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup, good chatting Frank.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s two straight games of real shoddy defensive play.
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Definitely. Has to improve.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
When it comes down to it, a bad/stupid/unlucky bounce beats them. Game was closer than it should’ve been, if you want something to look up at.
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I had to listen to the Pens announcers and apparently the Pens are just the better team since they hung 5 points on us and all.
Even though we kind of killed ourselves in this game and if we play just a little better with the shift change and not scoring on ourselves, we’re in this game if not winning it.
Don’t take anything those guys say seriously.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Watching that replay for the 15th time, I just realized: Maybe Emery didn’t have enough time to react, but I’d like to see him jump in the air next time.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m sure they also said the Pens destroyed the Flyers in the playoffs last year.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
They also said that since we can’t play as well as the Pens we have to come up with all of the fighting and running into the goalie, and other shenanigans…and the Pens just have to deal with it, because they would NEVER run blades first into a goalie when trying to score.
Oh wait, Crosby did that in the playoffs, didn’t he…and he’s NEVER dirty.
haha, blind homerism can be funny, can’t it?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Understandable.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
See, this is where homerism goes too far. JJ and Coatsey are homers, but they draw the line.
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by Travis Hughes on Oct 8, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, because their “angel” Pens were so clean when they played the Red Wings. Whatever. I just ignore commentary from anyone anymore. Joe Buck and Tim McCarver ruin me during baseball season.
Again, I’m in the minority when I say I hate Tim McCarver more than Joe Buck. Can. Not. Stand. Fox.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m all about being a homer, but give credit where credit is due y’know?
If they beat us 5-1, fine, we’re terrible, MAF really does walk on water and can summon the dead to fight for him…
But we dropped 4 on them and kept it close till the bitter end, even WITH our mistakes. Where’s the respect?
As a side note. When I saw them holding Tangs finger I said to my wife:
“See that? If you want to leave Philly with a win somebody’s gonna get cut.”
I don’t think Coatesy draws the line; he’s a serious homer. Everything is positive towards the Flyers with him. He even uses “we” sometimes. Don’t get me wrong; I think Coatesy’s awesome and I’m not complaining (because there are sure as hell enough anti-Philly people on TV to warrant a homer here and there), but I wouldn’t say he’s anywhere near objective.
Always a voice of reason… I definitely agree. But doubleh also makes a good point. Coatesy’s homerism is completely different from the Pens’ homerism.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Meanwhile, Coatesy just said “I knew we were in trouble when…”
I can’t decide whether or not that’s something I should be okay with.
They all agreed that this series is just going to be ugly all year, with whatever happened tonight definitely spilling over to the next game(s).
They were saying how poor our sportsmanship is for fighting at the end of the game. They should keep it chippy to the end. If they just sulked off the ice at the end of the game that’d bother me.
Difference in sports psychology. Pittsburgh is okay with losing 3-0 to the Coyotes and sulking off the ice. Philadelphia is not okay with losing and sulking off the ice period. Not the fans, not the players, not the coaches, not the GM, not the owner…
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
In a comparison to MAF, if a Pen crashed Emery, you know he’s dropping the gloves and pounding somebody.
Truth
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
P.S. we nearly doubled up Pensburgh’s Game Thread. I’m impressed.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 8, 2009 10:11 PM EDT reply actions
what was letang’s problem? broke a nail…
richards made a play on the puck and his momentum carried him into the crease. wasnt dirty, but deserves attention. somehow they were more concerned La La’s pinkie
it was quite humorous – the pens announcer – that dude bob erray (what ever his name is…) has such issues with the flyers because he admitted always losing in philly. his deep hatred and scorn for the flyers speaks volumes of how much of a bias unprofessional pinhead he sounds on the air…
Supposedly, Hartnell bit him? That’s what the Pens announcers said, although how they knew that until after the game, I have no idea. Whatever, you shove your hands in someone’s face, things happen. Not that I condone it, mind you, but in the heat of the moment, I can sort of understand. These two teams really hate each other.
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