Game 15, Preview and Open Thread: Back In The Saddle, Ottawa Senators at Philadelphia Flyers
by Travis Hughes on Nov 12, 2009 6:13 PM EST
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Ottawa Senators at Philadelphia Flyers, Nov 12, 2009 7:00 PM EST
Ottawa Senators (8-5-2, 18 pts) at Philadelphia Flyers (9-4-1, 19 pts)
Wachovia Center - 7:00 PM EST - Philadelphia, PA
TV: CSN HD, TSN HD
Radio: 610 WIP, XM 206
This is the open game thread.
Behind Enemy Lines: Silver Seven
After yet another long stretch of off days, the Flyers will look to win their fifth straight at home tonight. Standing in their way is the former team of goaltender Ray Emery, the Ottawa Senators.
Danny Briere and James van Riemsdyk are set to play this evening, meaning David Laliberte and his three points in four NHL games will take a seat. JVR isn't 100 percent, so Laliberte won't be sent back to the Phantoms just yet, but barring a last minute change, he won't play tonight.
On defense, Ole-Kristian Tollefsen is still out with a mild concussion, so Oskars Bartulis will likely play with Danny Syvret. It will be Bartulis' NHL debut. With that, you can expect the top four defensemen to put in a lot more ice time this evening.
Pascal Leclaire will start opposite of Emery in the Ottawa goal. The Senators have a goals for-goals against differential of just plus-1, scoring 46 total on the year while allowing 45. They take more penalties per game, on average, then any other team in the league. It was a contentious point of the weekend, as they lost to the Devils on Saturday night while New Jersey scored all three of their goals on the man-advantage. If they are equally as undisciplined tonight, the potent Philadelphia power play should be able to take advantage. That could be the key to the game tonight.
After the jump, we ask a few questions to answer tonight.
Questions To Answer
- How much ice time do the Flyers top four defenseman see tonight? Does Pronger top 30 minutes?
- How will Emery perform against his old club, an organization that had a rocky relationship with?
- Can the Senators keep their penalties under control? If not, can the Flyers capitalize?
- How many pretzels are sold on Dollar Pretzel Night?
Tonight's game will be broadcast on CSN locally and TSN across Canada. You can listen at 610 WIP, and as always, join us here for the conversation. LET'S GO FLYERS!
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On defense, Ole-Kristian Tollefsen is still out with a mild concussion, so Oskars Bartulis will likely play with Danny Syvret. It will be Bartulis’ NHL debut. With that, you can expect the top four defensemen to put in a lot more ice time this evening.
That probably has just as much to do with Syvret than Bartulis.
by Ben Feldman on Nov 12, 2009 6:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
“How much ice time do the Flyers top four defenseman see tonight? Does Pronger top 30 minutes? "
Well, we were off for 5 days, so…
And dollar pretzel night? Is that just a cheap Knockoff of Dollar Dog night?
by philiafan14364 on Nov 12, 2009 6:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If anyone wants to tell me why I capitalized the ‘k’ in knockoff, Im all ears!
by philiafan14364 on Nov 12, 2009 6:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Carbomb-Betts-Lappy are the starters along with Pronger and Carle.
by Ben Feldman on Nov 12, 2009 6:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Listenin 2 Bryan Murray is pretty damn funny
Him and his massive lisp
Space Weed Says The Steve Ott of Hockey Blogs
"DO NOT get stuck behind Kyle Wellwood in the buffet line. This isn't really etiquette, but it will prevent you from starving to death"- Down Goes Brown on Etiquette for Jason Spezza's wedding
by Space Weed on Nov 12, 2009 7:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Game is live on Yahoo!
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/hockeynight/2009111215;_ylt=AsLhYw4E7nfWMhMNs32U8IUsvLYF
Picture isnt working yet, but audio is.
by chillicothe20 on Nov 12, 2009 7:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't work for me
I’ve got TSN in Canada, and i’ve gotta listen to Pierre Mcguire’s drivel
Space Weed Says The Steve Ott of Hockey Blogs
"DO NOT get stuck behind Kyle Wellwood in the buffet line. This isn't really etiquette, but it will prevent you from starving to death"- Down Goes Brown on Etiquette for Jason Spezza's wedding
by Space Weed on Nov 12, 2009 7:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the link man. But i’ve gotten a preference for TV tho, despite my hatred for Mcguire
Space Weed Says The Steve Ott of Hockey Blogs
"DO NOT get stuck behind Kyle Wellwood in the buffet line. This isn't really etiquette, but it will prevent you from starving to death"- Down Goes Brown on Etiquette for Jason Spezza's wedding
by Space Weed on Nov 12, 2009 7:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Its on www.channelsurfing.net too
by philiafan14364 on Nov 12, 2009 7:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
carcillo lappy betts
Richie Claude Harts
Reemer Briere Carts
and then the last three
by orangeandblack20 on Nov 12, 2009 7:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The lower level looks unusually empty.
by Ben Feldman on Nov 12, 2009 7:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the links guys this is great.
by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Nov 12, 2009 7:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
geez it’s been so long since we’ve had an open thread, i felt like it must still be summer or something- turns out we’re actually 15 games into the season, and already with three 5 or more day breaks between games. love it.
by eeeeee on Nov 12, 2009 7:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
thinking the same thing
Nash for 8 More, Baby!
by PhillyPhan85 on Nov 12, 2009 7:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=peco+power+play
How many this time?
by eeeeee on Nov 12, 2009 7:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Susie and Beth, what wholesome names…
by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Nov 12, 2009 7:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So ridiculous! I’d like to know who came up with that.
by flyrsfrk05 on Nov 12, 2009 7:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ha ha, all we had to do was take five days off, and the few power plays in the league that were ahead of us in PP% fell down, while we held steady. nothin like coasting into first place…
by eeeeee on Nov 12, 2009 7:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
that was a close one from cheech
Nash for 8 More, Baby!
by PhillyPhan85 on Nov 12, 2009 7:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
not so for alfie
Nash for 8 More, Baby!
by PhillyPhan85 on Nov 12, 2009 7:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
we’ve had more than our fair share of metal so far this season, we’ll definitely take a little in the defensive zone…
by eeeeee on Nov 12, 2009 7:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
does it seem like we’re playing defense a little to long
by phish'n on Nov 12, 2009 7:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
yeah the time on attack must be ridiculously lopsided already
by eeeeee on Nov 12, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Announcer just said weve only given up 5 1st period goals…WOW.
by chillicothe20 on Nov 12, 2009 7:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
and we’ve scored first in 13 of 15, right?
by eeeeee on Nov 12, 2009 7:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
not sure that was a good idea…the whole two on one fight
by phish'n on Nov 12, 2009 7:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That was an incredibly uneventful first period.
by Ben Feldman on Nov 12, 2009 7:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You gotta appreciate good defensive hockey. Bartullis looked good
by orangeandblack20 on Nov 12, 2009 7:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of boring…back to some homework :(
by flyrsfrk05 on Nov 12, 2009 7:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
that would be TMI, but one man’s TMI is another man’s NEI.
Nash for 8 More, Baby!
by PhillyPhan85 on Nov 12, 2009 7:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
anyone else
hear that the Flyers will phase out the road whites for the Winter Classic whites next season?
Nash for 8 More, Baby!
by PhillyPhan85 on Nov 12, 2009 7:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yes, that switch has been confirmed by the Flyers.
by Ben Feldman on Nov 12, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
had a friend mention it to me, wasn’t sure.
Nash for 8 More, Baby!
by PhillyPhan85 on Nov 12, 2009 8:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This game needs some spice…Enter DC13!
by flyrsfrk05 on Nov 12, 2009 8:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
on the bright side Carkner doing what he does and gets me some PIM for the fantasy league
Nash for 8 More, Baby!
by PhillyPhan85 on Nov 12, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That fight was about as exciting as JJ with a cold.
by Ben Feldman on Nov 12, 2009 8:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Damn he started ok then got beat a little
by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Nov 12, 2009 8:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Everytime Tim Saunders says “Leclaire” I think of big number 10!
I loved Johnny!
by flyrsfrk05 on Nov 12, 2009 8:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
JVR
so close…
Nash for 8 More, Baby!
by PhillyPhan85 on Nov 12, 2009 8:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
ric flair ’Woooo"
Nash for 8 More, Baby!
by PhillyPhan85 on Nov 12, 2009 8:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Kinda weak goal. Awesome to see Blair get it though.
by Ben Feldman on Nov 12, 2009 8:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
they keep saying that is Leclaire’s problem
Nash for 8 More, Baby!
by PhillyPhan85 on Nov 12, 2009 8:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thats not making sportscentre but Im happy we got it!
by Prometheus74 on Nov 12, 2009 8:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Did Comcast really just put a 2012 ad in there mid-broadcast? Come on…
by Ben Feldman on Nov 12, 2009 8:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
what the hell..really that easy. You guys just give one up like that
by phish'n on Nov 12, 2009 8:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Dang it, they did that way too easily
by DragonGirl0583 on Nov 12, 2009 8:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Didn’t realize Betts had that profound of an effect on the PK…
by Ben Feldman on Nov 12, 2009 8:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
well that was some nice defense. i mean, there were two flyers on the opposite side of the net, observing fisher nicely. i hope they took good notes.
by eeeeee on Nov 12, 2009 8:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
jvr with some revenge for stopping him the first time
Nash for 8 More, Baby!
by PhillyPhan85 on Nov 12, 2009 8:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I need to stop watching these games in the tech center. They dont like when I yell F*** when we give up a goal or when i run around when we score.
I WANT SOME MOOOOOORE
by orangeandblack20 on Nov 12, 2009 8:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
wooooow, what a return pass by (was that JVR?) too bad richards couldn’t handle it quick enough- leclaire never saw it coming
by eeeeee on Nov 12, 2009 8:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Z
64% faceoffs so far. Richie 5-2, Carts 6-2, Betts 5-3
by orangeandblack20 on Nov 12, 2009 8:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for appearing on my TV, Pierre McGuire. Bye-bye now.
by Ben Feldman on Nov 12, 2009 8:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
atlanta scored two goals in 25 seconds?! sweet!
by eeeeee on Nov 12, 2009 8:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It’s funny. I was just thinking how unimpressed I’d been with Briere tonight.
by Ben Feldman on Nov 12, 2009 9:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
might be unimpressed with him now but i think altogether briere is putting together a pretty good season for himself, which he needs to.
Nash for 8 More, Baby!
by PhillyPhan85 on Nov 12, 2009 9:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s going to take him a few shifts to get back up to speed, no pun intended.
by doubleh on Nov 12, 2009 9:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
are you doing one of those things where you add “no pun intended” to the end of a sentence with no pun in it, so that you really make someone feel stupid trying to analyze and find the pun? or am i just that dumb that i’m missing the pun?
by eeeeee on Nov 12, 2009 9:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Probably a little bit of both—but speed is supposed to be the biggest component of Briere’s game. Lay off of me, Ive been subjected to Nick Jr. all day and my brain is fried. LOL
by doubleh on Nov 12, 2009 9:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hehehehe fair enough. i’ll take it easy on you. i just thought you might be an avid xkcd reader, and i was excited to see a potential math/science/computer geek on a hockey blog.
ps- for the uninitiated: http://xkcd.com/559/
by eeeeee on Nov 12, 2009 9:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I do like computers, but only because that’s my job.
by doubleh on Nov 12, 2009 9:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
good to see he didn’t miss a beat.
by orangeandblack20 on Nov 12, 2009 9:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
theres that kimmo-carter one-two punch for assists
by phish'n on Nov 12, 2009 9:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
yes this is nice to see, though, admittedly, kimmo had basically nothing to do with the goal, just made a routine zone-clearing pass, and carter and danny made the goal happen
by eeeeee on Nov 12, 2009 9:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just no OT, please. And keep Crosby scoreless. That would be nice.
by doubleh on Nov 12, 2009 9:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
crosby scored the goal, too bad he didn’t score an elbow
Nash for 8 More, Baby!
by PhillyPhan85 on Nov 12, 2009 9:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No, no
Fedotenko scored their goal. Crosbitch had an assist.
by flyrsfrk05 on Nov 12, 2009 9:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So he has a point, but not a goal. It’s the little things in life that please me.
by doubleh on Nov 12, 2009 9:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Devils have the same number of points as the Penguins with 2 less games played and a hot streak, I can’t bring myself to root for the Penguins, but it would be nice to see the Devils momentum get broken up.
by DragonGirl0583 on Nov 12, 2009 9:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Powe
earned that goal
Nash for 8 More, Baby!
by PhillyPhan85 on Nov 12, 2009 9:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
again, nothing like an empty netter! whoooooo
by eeeeee on Nov 12, 2009 9:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
POOOOWWWWEEEE
Mario’s favorite Flyer!
by flyrsfrk05 on Nov 12, 2009 9:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I am really glad to see the Flyers pour it on and not sit back!
by flyrsfrk05 on Nov 12, 2009 9:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
powe really skated well and to a good area, and to his credit put the shot in the net, but man asham really made that happen. skated it into the zone strong and threw a perfect pass right onto powe’s stick. excellent shift from the fourth line. also, DANNY! YES!
by eeeeee on Nov 12, 2009 9:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think Danny’s shaking off the rust
by DragonGirl0583 on Nov 12, 2009 9:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Numero Dos! DDANNNNYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
HOOLLEER!
by flyrsfrk05 on Nov 12, 2009 9:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, I’d love to see Giroux get one and start racking up regulation goals instead of just shootout ones
by DragonGirl0583 on Nov 12, 2009 9:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
we need our role-players tho ….some don’t get the glamor of regulation i guess.
Nash for 8 More, Baby!
by PhillyPhan85 on Nov 12, 2009 9:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d like to see Pyorala get one too.
by flyrsfrk05 on Nov 12, 2009 9:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think once we start playing games every other day the boys will put them in
by Prometheus74 on Nov 12, 2009 9:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know, this schedule has been horrible. Pronger was complaining about it on DNL tonight.
by doubleh on Nov 12, 2009 9:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i like this emery we have seen in the last 5 games (well last 4 including this 1 too)
Nash for 8 More, Baby!
by PhillyPhan85 on Nov 12, 2009 9:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
How about Boston and Florida are tied at 0 at the end of 3. I’d love to have both of those goalies in Fantasy tonight.
by flyrsfrk05 on Nov 12, 2009 9:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i have one of them. the one that a shutout two days ago! =D
by eeeeee on Nov 12, 2009 9:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have Thomas but didn’t play him tonight :(
by flyrsfrk05 on Nov 12, 2009 9:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
sad panda. i hope you at least started him against Pitt
by eeeeee on Nov 12, 2009 9:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea that’s why I sat him. My GAA this week .is .5 because Tim got a shutout and my other goalie Broduer won 1-0!
by flyrsfrk05 on Nov 12, 2009 9:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I also have Pascal Leclaire in a league and didn’t start him tonight, thank goodness!
by flyrsfrk05 on Nov 12, 2009 9:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
weird. i also have brodeur and thomas in one league, with mike smith on the bench for emergencies only
by eeeeee on Nov 12, 2009 9:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
GULP, will thomas get the win, with the shutout already locked up?!
by eeeeee on Nov 12, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No, but he gets a shutout, right? because shootout goals don’t count
by flyrsfrk05 on Nov 12, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yes sir. also, damnit. now i’m definitely gonna lose wins for the week cause i gotta bench my goalies from here on in with GAA and SV% like that….
by eeeeee on Nov 12, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yea but you’ll win every other goalie category.
by flyrsfrk05 on Nov 12, 2009 9:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah you’re right, but it’s just not humiliating for your opponent if you don’t sweep, you know? =p
by eeeeee on Nov 12, 2009 9:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Malicious...
usually I am the one getting humiliated though :(
by flyrsfrk05 on Nov 12, 2009 9:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d love to have a goalie in fantasy. I have Ward, Auld and Giguere. Not good times for my team.
by Ben Feldman on Nov 12, 2009 9:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i have roloson and elliot w/ dipietro in the wings
Nash for 8 More, Baby!
by PhillyPhan85 on Nov 12, 2009 9:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
adds up to like 1 game a week
Nash for 8 More, Baby!
by PhillyPhan85 on Nov 12, 2009 9:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ouch. tonight i have luongo, brodeur and thomas going across two leagues. slightly better times in my camp.
by eeeeee on Nov 12, 2009 9:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
stick a fork in it....
should be all but over….good win fellas.
Nash for 8 More, Baby!
by PhillyPhan85 on Nov 12, 2009 9:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Whats our goal for/agent during this win streak
by Prometheus74 on Nov 12, 2009 9:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Five to one baby! No one here get out a live (ask the senators)
by phish'n on Nov 12, 2009 9:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
like 23/8 ??? something like that, pretty much 3 to 1
Nash for 8 More, Baby!
by PhillyPhan85 on Nov 12, 2009 9:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
So if the Rangers lose in regulation we’ll tie them in points with 4 less games played, right?
by DragonGirl0583 on Nov 12, 2009 9:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
New Jersey 3
Pittsburgh 1
15:00 3rd
Goal by Zach Parise from Travis Zajac & Nicklas Bergfors
by flyrsfrk05 on Nov 12, 2009 9:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
IDK
but he is having a good game=1 goal, 2 assists and is +1 with 4 shot
by flyrsfrk05 on Nov 12, 2009 9:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ATL does us a solid
Atlanta 5
NY Rangers 3
FINAL
by flyrsfrk05 on Nov 12, 2009 9:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Pretty sweet
The Devils radio has a woman as one of the play-by-play commentators. Never heard that before.
by flyrsfrk05 on Nov 12, 2009 9:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
steve downie had a goal?! sweet mustache!
by eeeeee on Nov 12, 2009 9:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Punchless Penguins
can’t get by the Red Hot Devils ;)
New Jersey 4
Pittsburgh 1
Final
Here’s my question: Why can’t we play the Pens when they are injured and sucking a big one? Knowing our luck, the next time we play them is when they are firing on all cylinders.
by flyrsfrk05 on Nov 12, 2009 10:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
So be it.
We will play the worst tasting poultry twice in Early December.
Lets beat them when they have everyone.
God forbid we have to hear all the little happyfeet complain if we beat them while they have injuries
by Prometheus74 on Nov 12, 2009 10:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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Atlantic Standings
| GP | W | L | OTL | PT | |
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New Jersey
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58 | 36 | 20 | 2 | 74 |
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Pittsburgh
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59 | 35 | 22 | 2 | 72 |
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Philadelphia
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57 | 29 | 25 | 3 | 61 |
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New York Rangers
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59 | 26 | 26 | 7 | 59 |
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New York Islanders
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58 | 23 | 27 | 8 | 54 |
(updated 2.9.2010 at 12:41 AM EST)
Flyers Schedule
Next 5 Games
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New Jersey
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Wed 02/10 | 7:00 PM EST |
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Montreal
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Fri 02/12 | 6:00 PM EST |
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Montreal
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Sat 02/13 | 7:00 PM EST |
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Tampa Bay
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Tue 03/02 | 7:30 PM EST |
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Florida
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Wed 03/03 | 7:30 PM EST |
Last 5 Games
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New Jersey
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Mon 02/08 | W 3 - 2 |
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Minnesota
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Sat 02/06 | L 1 - 2 |
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Edmonton
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Wed 02/03 | L 0 - 1 |
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Calgary
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Mon 02/01 | W 3 - 0 |
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New York Islanders
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Sat 01/30 | W 2 - 1 |
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