Flyers stop Devils streak, honor Dave Schultz with 3-2 win
There was no melee. There were no fights. There were no teeth knocked out, nor was there any blood drawn. But the Philadelphia Flyers honored Dave "The Hammer" Schultz as best they could with a 3-2 win on his night, tonight. Yes, the story of the night, regardless of the score, was his induction into the Flyers Hall of Fame.
His name will live forever in the rafters of the Wachovia Center and every subsequent building the Flyers call home. After tonight, he will be forever enshrined as one of the greats in team history, an honor reserved for just twenty of the hundreds of players that ever pulled on an orange and black sweater. He thanked his teammates, the front office staff, his coach, his family, and us.
But after the nostalgic ceremonies, there was a hockey game to be played, and the current incarnation of the Broad Street Bullies would successfully halt the streaking New Jersey Devils. They entered the game with an eight game win streak and they exited it with a one game losing streak and their first road loss on the season. How did Philadelphia do it?
For starters, Ray Emery put together another excellent game. It's one thing to out-duel Martin Brodeur in one game, as Emery did when these teams first met last month. But to do it in two games against him, as a member of the team he's owned for his entire career, is something else. Emery made 33 saves in total, and many of them came in an up and down first period that the Flyers escaped with a 1-0 lead. If it weren't for Emery's performance in the first twenty minutes, in which he made 14 of his saves -- many of them difficult -- the face of the game could've been vastly different.
The Flyers took over the contest in the second period, stretching their lead on a Scott Hartnell power play tally before penalties would turn around and haunt them. You can sit and debate the weak tripping call on Mike Richards at the 15:18 mark of the second period all you want, but when it comes down to it, the Devils capitalized on the 5-on-3 chance they had following it, trimming the Flyer lead to 2-1.
New Jersey was outplayed by the Flyers in the second, but to come out of the period with only a one-goal deficit was huge for them. It was also a credit to Brodeur, as well, who played great in the second. For a team that had made it their M.O. this season to come from behind on the road, the Devils felt good as they entered the third. Luckily, the Flyers came out and proved that they weren't going to let NJ come back on their ice.
James van Riemsdyk would score a power play tally on a fumbled pokecheck by Brodeur with about nine minutes left in the game, and then played suffocating hockey the rest of the way. The Devils would strike with less than a second left in the game, but it was obviously too little, too late as the orange and black sent them packing.
After the jump, a few more assorted thoughts from the evening, we'll answer our pre-game questions, grab some popcorn and watch the highlights, and select a comment of the night.
Some assorted thoughts...
- The Flyers defense deserves a lot of credit for this one, as well. As a whole, the team blocked a whopping 26 shots tonight. That's obviously going to make the game a lot easier for Razor.
- Oskars Bartulis put together another clean game. He was a plus-two in 12 minutes, 27 seconds of ice time alongside Ryan Parent. He also blocked four shots of his own.
- It seems like every goal Scott Hartnell scores is an ugly one. Tonight, he banked it off of Devils' defenseman Mike Mottau and it found twine behind Brodeur.
- Darroll Powe now has six goals on the season.
- Giroux set up Powe's goal with a pass that looked easy, but was actually extremely difficult -- a testament to the guys' raw skill. Without looking, he fed the puck through the slot, past a NJ defenseman, and to a wide-open Powe.
- Emery had to make a few key saves, but on the whole, he didn't have to work nearly as hard for them as Brodeur did down the other end. That's another credit to the defense for keeping the pressure off of their goaltender.
- It was two Brodeur errors that led to goals on this night. On the first, he played the puck around the boards to Arron Asham, a turnover that led to the goal. On JVR's game winner, he poked the puck out of the front of his crease, but it went right to the stick of the Flyer rookie, who didn't hesitate in putting it to the back of the net before Brodeur even knew what hit him.
- Speaking of JVR's goal, he deserved every bit of it. It came on a bit of a lucky break from his perspective, but on the two shifts leading up to the goal, he was working his tail off and generated several chances all on his own.
- We love you too, Dave.
Questions With Answers
- Do the pre-game ceremonies hurt the Flyers or help pump them up? It didn't hurt the Flyers, that's for sure, but it didn't seem to adversely effect the Devils either. The Flyers definitely won the early part of the first period, but the first 20 minutes as a whole were pretty evenly matched.
- Can the Flyers solve Brodeur, and can Emery out-duel him again? Emery did out-duel the Hall of Famer yet again. Their numbers on the night were similar, but Ray was much more composed in his net.
- How does JVR look in his return from the flu? Great. It didn't look like he was suffering at all, especially in the third period when you'd expect him to be gassed.
- How many fights are there tonight, out of respect for Mr. Schultz? None, unfortunately. That's okay -- there was a little scrum in the final second of the game, and Mike Richards channeled The Hammer a little bit in his response to Jamie Langenbrunner pinning Emery to the ice. Look for more December 12.
- Does the move to center help Claude Giroux? Hard to say. You could make the same criticisms of his game tonight -- that he passes too much, doesn't take enough shots, etc. -- as he's heard all season long. But just because he hasn't put a puck in the net doesn't mean he's not contributing.
- How much emotion does The Hammer show in his Hall of Fame speech? He didn't cry or anything like that, but he was definitely humbled by the experience. Most of all, he expressed his gratitude for the opportunity to play in this city and for this organization. He may have been a monster on the ice in his playing days, but Dave Schultz is an absolute class act and a Philadelphia Flyer for life.
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Comment of the Night:
Ya know, I have to reprogram myself to not passively be okay with the Islanders winning. They have the same number of points as the Flyers now.
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When I was about 11 or 12(about 8 years ago), mne and my dad went to a Flyers vs. leafs playoff game. On the walk up to the Stadium, my dad points out a guy in front of up, hands me a marker, and tells me to ask him to sign my jersey(an orange Tocchet). I didn’t know at the time, but he shook my hand and said have fun. When I went back to my dad, I asked who that was. He replied that it was the greatest fighter in the history of hockey. Ever since that day, the hammer has been my favorite Flyers from before my time. Wish I could have went tonight but the fact that he was introduced to the HOF on a night were we beat the Shitty devils makes this a great night to be a Flyers fan.
by JpH89 on Nov 17, 2009 12:15 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
In typical Flyers-Devils fashion, not one of those five goals was even remotely pretty.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 17, 2009 2:49 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I thought Powe’s goal was pretty nice actually. The tic-tac passing from Giroux to Asham and then Asham’s heads up pass to a streaking Powe who hammered it home. But other than that, you are right, it was a very typical Flyers-Devils game. I am glad to see the Flyers work the tempo of the game and battle it out for the win. This team is really starting to come together…
by flyrsfrk05 on Nov 17, 2009 10:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I thought the Powe goal and the JVR goal were nice.
Both from Brodeur’s stupidity, but nice goals nonetheless.
by JasonB on Nov 17, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
JVR’s goal was impressive because he had the poise to turn around and shoot as soon as it hit his stick. He didn’t wait at all.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 17, 2009 4:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In a close second for “story of the night” honors: eff the devils- no record for you.
Sorry to be so blunt, but those late 90’s, early 00’s really drove hatred for the devils deeeeep into the core of my being. I never thought them being 9-1 on the road would taste so sweet. But it does.
by eeeeee on Nov 17, 2009 9:29 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I shutter to ask this, but is Emery for real?
The guy has been solid.
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by HockeyOutsiders on Nov 17, 2009 10:53 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know about anyone else, but I’m trying not to think that far ahead. That question has popped up in my head after each of his wins though.
by Ben Feldman on Nov 17, 2009 11:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Likewise. I feel greedy and just plain dirty just thinking about it.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 17, 2009 11:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Same here. Just the fact that he hasn’t pulled too many Marties (Biron, not Brodeur, of course) means I’m usually more relaxed when watching the games this season. I just never felt confident when teams had the puck in our own end last year. I do now. And I hope I’ll be saying the same thing in May.
That said, there was Marty-ism last night when Carter had to bail Razor out. Can’t say I want to see much more of that, hah…
by CTFlyer on Nov 17, 2009 12:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Looking good
Surely there is a lot of hockey left to be played, and we need to hope that he keeps things going. Plus, he has to stay healthy. As we know, a lot can change in a very short time in the NHL – especially here in Flyerville (or Nether Flyerton Township, if you prefer).
Natheless, The Flyers signed this guy for a reason, and we’re starting to see why.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
by mikefive on Nov 17, 2009 1:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The analyst on postgame (Vs.) said Emery was the best-kept secret in the league with his play so far this season and that’s the Flyers want to keep it that way.
by doubleh on Nov 17, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So far, what have we seen from Emery? While, for the most part, he has not had to stand on his head for this team to win. In short, he has not been spectacular. However, neither has he lost games for the Flyers this year. And that, imo, is the most important thing: Emery has been solid and consistent. That has been the biggest difference between Emery and Biron last year. Marty was streaky, playing well at times and totally crapping out at others. Granted, the Flyers defense is considerably better this year when compared to last.
But, I think the true indicator is in my (…and most BSH reader’s) demeanor and feelings about Emery. Ben Feldman said last night during the game thread “The thing I like most about Emery is how I don’t expect doom every time he plays the puck.” That is a very telling statement. I think we all feel confident in Emery; in that he is going to make some highlight saves but more importantly he is going to make the big stops that keep the Flyers in the game. That is a sense of confidence that you just didn’t have with Biron last year.
So far, Emery has been a gem of a signing and, honestly, I completely expect Razor to play like this for the rest of the season. Its not like he is playing out of his mind, he is just a solid goalie to begin with. Its nice that, for a change, our goaltending is not our biggest question mark; so far, that is quite the contrary. Razor has been the most consistent Flyers this season.
by flyrsfrk05 on Nov 17, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You summed it up nicely there. Emery was a very solid goalie before going off to Russia. He has shown flashes of brilliance before, but what they wanted when signing him was just a steady and consistent hand. Which he’s been.
by Mike B on D on Nov 17, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Your feelings are wonderful and all, but if you want to make an argument about a goaltender’s performance you need to use at least one fractional shred of evidence.
by MarioD on Nov 17, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What argument? He’s not arguing. He’s stating his opinion.
by Mike B on D on Nov 17, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He’s arguing that Emery has been “solid and consistent”.
Which, he really hasn’t. He cost them the game Saturday with an attrocious play to allow the second goal. And earlier in the season he made a number of poor plays failing to challenge shooters that led to goals.
He also misplayed the puck last night when he had it in his glove in the third period and tried to move it rather than taking the faceoff, which Ryan Parent clearly didn’t expect. I can’t recall if that was a turnover or Parent recovered.
But, I guess what really matters is that people feel better about him, rather than how he actually performs.
by MarioD on Nov 17, 2009 5:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Forgot, earlier in the season he was also leaving ridiculous gift-wrapped rebounds out front of the crease, which led to several goals.
by MarioD on Nov 17, 2009 5:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Whats the point?
Even if I came up with at least 1000 fractional shreds of evidence I’d still be completely wrong to you. Your arguments are all radical, extreme and black and white. You are entitled to them but there is no sense in wasting my time by responding . . .
Plus, I am willing to bet that most people agree with me in that Razor has, as a whole, played quite well as is evidenced in the comments regarding Emery. Watch out though, people are talking about their feelings . . .
by flyrsfrk05 on Nov 17, 2009 5:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The point is you wouldn’t come of as someone devoid of rational thought. Which you do when you rate an athlete’s performance on how they make you feel.
by MarioD on Nov 17, 2009 5:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, we should all be bereft of all emotion and feeling while watching sports.
by Phalange on Nov 18, 2009 10:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lou Lamoriello’s evil trap could not handle The Pronger 180ft bomb. I loved that play.
by astcter on Nov 17, 2009 11:00 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Emery's Actual Performance
Just to throw it out there in defense of flyrsfrk05:
Total GVT through November 10: 6.1. Good for 9th best among ALL players in the NHL, 6th best among goalies. Since that date, he’s had a .928 save percentage while giving up 6 goals in 178:46 of ice time. That’s a 2.01 gaa. Only 2 of those 6 goals against were during even-strength play.
He’s also 7th in the league in both GAA and S% on the year. His even-strength GAA on the year is 2.00. His even-strength S% is .939, good for 6th best in the league among those with at least 6 starts.
His short-handed save percentage is .865. That might look bad, but let’s look at it. It’s 29th best in the league, but it’s 19th best among goalies with at least 6 starts. Still not good? Among goalies with AS MANY starts or more as Emery, it’s 6th best. Among goalies who have faced as many or more shots as Emery while shorthanded, his S% is 7th best.
So, what stat do you want to look at? He’s top 10 in almost, if not all, of the relevant categories.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 17, 2009 9:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Love you Geoff
…but somehow you will still be wrong despite the fact that you have statistically proven that Emery, so far, has been a top 10 goalie.
by flyrsfrk05 on Nov 17, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
haha, I know. Even with that one bad goal against Buffalo, he’s still a top 10 goalie so far.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 18, 2009 10:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t disagree that he’s played very well. I would just like to see thoughtful discussion instead of ridiculous subjective opinions.
Emery has produced well over his head, and he has changed his game during this season (coming out to challenge more and has reduced rebounds out front) to improve.
But to say he hasn’t made any mistakes is so wrong its just silly.
by MarioD on Nov 18, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Get on Board!
Emery has made mistakes but every goalie makes mistakes it happens the key to this teams success has been scoring 1st and playing with the lead. How many times last year did we hear we were chasing the game which snowballed into loses. Emery has let up barely any 1st period goals. Last night was his best performance of the year especially in the 1st period.
All your criticisms of this team are fading away fast, can’t hold a 3rd period lead (9-0-1), poor defense (7th in league in GA/G), horrible at faceoffs (50% as a team good for 15th overall and much improved from last year), JVR is not NHL ready and is a defensive liability (16pts in 14games, +8 tops for forwards on the team), Darrol Powe is garbage (6 goals on the year tied for 3rd on the team), take too may dumb penalties (16.6 minutes/per game down from 17.6 last year) hard to quantify with all the majors we have gotten and the misconducts but from what I have seen we have improved there as well. And aforementioned Ray Emery who also going to be horrible, top 10 in every statistical goalie category and still getting better.
Homer and Stevens deserve credit they improved all of this teams weaknesses from last year, defense, goaltending, and faceoffs. Stevens has changed the attitude of the team the boys are playing with a better effort, playing a complete 60 minutes and taking fewer dumb penalties. They saw these flaws and addressed each and every one sacrificing some scoring depth at forward to do so. They had to hope Briere, JVR and Claude will be able to fill the void and they have plus the D is scoring more too.
Bottom Line: After a so so start all the pieces are starting to come together even with a considerable amount of injuries and a slow start goal wise from Jeff Carter the team is playing really well. To quote Coach Dennis Green “They are who we thought they were!” Get on board and enjoy the ride.
by chrislanci on Nov 18, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A few things
Remarkable stat: All year, the Flyers have given up 6 first period goals. (One of them was scored against Boucher). The team with the second fewest first period goals against is Phoenix, with 10.
On penalties, the Flyers have taken 94 minor penalties in 17 games, good for 5.53 per game. Last year they averaged 5.44.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 18, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That part might be true with the minors per game but look at times shorthanded lots of those minors forced were 2 and 2 (pretty much all of Carcillo’s minors he gets 2 minutes for getting high sticked). I am confident we have been shorthanded a lot less last year than this year in a per game basis.
by chrislanci on Nov 18, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good catch, don’t know why I didn’t think of that. NHL.com doesn’t have total time short-handed, but the Flyers have been on the PK 4.29 times per game this season compared to 4.79 times per game last season.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 18, 2009 4:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just stop talking to me. I don’t have time to correct this entire treatise of wrongness. You’ve literally misquoted every argument I’ve ever made.
by MarioD on Nov 18, 2009 4:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
BS
If you want me to go through all the old posts and bring up your quotes I will. Just admit you were wrong. All of a sudden you don’t have time to correct me, bullshit there is nothing to correct. Why don’t you remember? I know you must have hit your head hard jumping off the band wagon after the 1st 5 games, no wonder your memory is cloudy. Geoff back me up here and make MarioD continue to eat his words.
by chrislanci on Nov 18, 2009 4:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Here’s the deal. I’ll break down how horribly you scarecrowed my arguments, then you stop replying to me and talking about me and trying to organize a board mutiny against me (you might need to talk to a professional for the level of seriousness you took that one to.)
All your criticisms of this team are fading away fast, can’t hold a 3rd period lead (9-0-1)
You’re off to a fantastic start here just plain making things up. I have never once criticized the Flyers for an inability to hold a third period lead. Its a stupid discussion other people have brought up to justify firing John Stevens, whom I’ve always defended.
poor defense (7th in league in GA/G),
Against the 8th easiest schedule in the league. So their GA/G is right where it ought to be.
Two weeks ago I said they had a cake walk until this west coast trip, and then we would see an actual test of their capabilities.
horrible at faceoffs (50% as a team good for 15th overall and much improved from last year)
Betts – 54.9%
Carter – 51.6%
Richards – 51.1%
Everyone else is below 50%.
The team is winning exactly every other draw. I don’t give a fuck how big an imrpovement it is upon last year. It’s still unacceptable.
JVR is not NHL ready and is a defensive liability (16pts in 14games, +8 tops for forwards on the team)
JVR has done everything I expected of him. He plays limited minutes with a very good defensive center. He does very little in the defensive zone. He has raw skills but makes stupid mistakes due to inexperience (his 2:40 shift a couple weeks back, for instance) and he has put himself in vulnerable situations because he’s not accustomed to his level of competition.
And, most important of all, my main concern about JVR is that he would hit a wall around game 60. 60. Six-ty. Thats four times as many games as they’ve played so far. So, once again, you’re strawmaning my statements.
Darrol Powe is garbage (6 goals on the year tied for 3rd on the team)
take too may dumb penalties (16.6 minutes/per game down from 17.6 last year)
Again, not even close to what I ever said.
I identified taking too many penalties as an issue that they needed to address this season. I said getting rid of Knuble was a good start. I never said anything predicting the 2009-10 Flyers would take too many penalties.
Furthermore, even when you completely fabricate my argument from thin air, you still fuck up your point. Here’s a list of times shorthanded per game:
Time Shorthanded Per Game
Ana 4.95
Car 4.7
Clmb 4.58
NYR 4.57
Phx 4.5
StL 4.44
Mon 4.38
Phi 4.30
Colo 4.29
Ott 4.28
Atl 4.18
TB 4.17
Was 4.14
Cal 4.05
Tor 4.05
Van 4.04
Fla 4
Pit 4
NYI 3.86
Min 3.85
SJ 3.73
LAK 3.68
Buf 3.65
Edm 3.62
Det 3.61
Chi 3.58
NJ 3.21
As you can see, the Flyers are 8th worst in the league at putting themselves on the PK. Once again, I don’t care if its less than last year, thats still too many penalties.
And aforementioned Ray Emery who also going to be horrible, top 10 in every statistical goalie category and still getting better.
And once again we’re judging players seasons on 15 games. As I pointed out, Emery has never started more than 59 regular season games going all the way back to his time in juniors. Even in the Cup run, he started 58 reg and 20 playoff games.
And since August of 2007 he’s played a full total of 77 meaningful games (reg, po, everything but pre-season). Obviously his GS pace will slow down, but if he only starts 4 out of 5 the rest of the way, he would get 68 starts before the season ends.
Now go away.
by MarioD on Nov 18, 2009 7:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Whoops, lost one in editing.
Darrol Powe is garbage (6 goals on the year tied for 3rd on the team)
Darrol Powe has yet to create a goal. He has shown a knack for standing in front of the net and scoring garbage goals. He does nothing to create scoring for him or his teammates. And he has made a number of crucial coverage mistakes in his own end.
by MarioD on Nov 18, 2009 7:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WRONG AGAIN
Against the 8th easiest schedule in the league. So their GA/G is right where it ought to be.
Look at the link again I think you have it backwards that puts the Flyers schedule has the 8th strongest schedule in the league, 5th in the conference opponents winning percentage above 50%. They played Caps twice, Devils twice, and Sabres twice that is 6 games out of 18 agains the top 3 teams in the conference. It is ranked by strength of schedule not weakness of schedule.
So what you now are saying is JVR and Emery are playing good now but will suck later and garbage goals shouldn’t count. I guess LeClair and TIm Kerr suck then too. That don’t ask you how you got them they only ask you how many.
by chrislanci on Nov 19, 2009 10:24 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Faceoffs
The team is winning exactly every other draw. I don’t give a fuck how big an imrpovement it is upon last year. It’s still unacceptable.
BTW the top team is only 6 percent higher and they are 2 percent away from 5th place what the hell are you looking for 60-70%. You are ridiculous.
by chrislanci on Nov 19, 2009 10:44 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

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