Flyers Crown on Kings, Historically
One of the biggest surprises early on in this nascent NHL campaign is the Los Angeles Kings, who have stunned many by racing out to a 13-7-2 start that has them in fourth place in the Western Conference. And while most Flyers fans don't know (or care) a whole lot about the Kings, there's a lot of ice under the bridge between these two squads.
Along with the Penguins, Blues, North Stars, and Golden Seals, the Flyers and Kings were part of the six-team expansion of the NHL in 1967. The two have had a pretty long (but not particularly storied) history with one another, the latest chapter of which is set to be written at 10:30 ET tonight, in the House That Kobe Built.
With that historical perspective in mind, here are some things you almost certainly do not know about the Los Angeles Kings, seen through orange-tinted lenses:
- The Flyers and Kings have played 135 times, with the Flyers posting an 80-37-16 record in those contests. None too shabby. The Flyers are also a pretty awesome 38-22-8 all-time in Los Angeles.
- 17 of those 80 Flyers wins over the Kings were of the shut out variety, including four each by Bernie Parent and Doug Favell, and two each by Wayne Stephenson, Pelle Lindbergh, and Roman Cechmanek.
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The 1974-75 season, best known in these parts for being the year of the Flyers' last Stanley Cup win, was also the most successful regular season in Kings history in terms of points. The Kings 105 point total was largely because of their incredible number of ties, with their 42-17-21 record including more ties than losses. Sadly for the Kings, there are no ties in the playoffs, and the Kings bowed out in three games to the Maple Leafs in the first round.
- The Kings have only won their division once in 41 seasons (1990-91 Smythe Division), a number that compares none-too favorably with the Flyers fifteen division crowns over the same time period.
- The Kings and Flyers have never met in the playoffs, making the Kings the oldest team still in existence that the Flyers have never faced in the postseason.
- Recent Flyers Hall of Fame Inductee Dave Schultz was traded to the Kings in September of 1976 in exchange for two picks (4th Rd 1977 and 2nd Rd 1978).
- Powered almost entirely by Head Coach Barry Melrose's hair gel, the Kings made the 1993 Stanley Cup Finals, their only trip to date to the last stage of the playoffs. The Kings lost to the Canadiens in five. In a feat not likely to be repeated any time soon, the Kings played all four of their playoff series against Canadian teams, knocking off the Flames, Canucks, and Maple Leafs on their way to the final. That means that "O Canada" was played eleven times in The Forum during the playoffs, a record for an American arena. The Flyers also didn't face an American team during the 1993 playoffs. Or any team, for that matter.
- In the fourteen seasons since that run, the Kings have only won one playoff series, a first round upset of the Red Wings in 2001. The Flyers have fared somewhat better, winning thirteen series.
Little of that will matter come tonight though. With Anze Kopitar and the two or three other Kings you might have heard of at the wheel, there's a pretty good team in Los Angeles these days. But the Flyers are awesome themselves, so it should make for a decidedly good late slate of hockey.
It definitely beats watching that terrible new Jay Leno Show, that's for sure.
After the jump, a look back at the most recent Kings foray into Philadelphia, from last February, as well as any comments or thoughts you may have on the Flyers-Kings match-up.
Highlights from the most recent Kings/Flyers game:
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This is more just me bitching than anything else, but it’s really frustrating that the various media outlets in this town spend so little time covering the Flyers. I am watching DNL right now and for the past three days they’ve spent the first 40 mins talking about the Eagles, the next 10 on the Sixers and then maybe, if we’re lucky, 5 mins or so to Boruk on the Flyers. I just think it’s funny in a tragic way, considering the Eagles are a .500 team at best and the Sixers are a disaster. The Flyers, in comparison, are a damn good team and have the pontential to have a strong playoff run.
by doubleh on Nov 18, 2009 5:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It is frustrating, especially because the Flyers are quite popular — obviously much more than the Sixers. DNL isn’t nearly as bad at WIP, at least.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 18, 2009 6:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lack of mainstream coverage obviously isn’t hurting the Flyers’ attendance (virtual sellout) or TV ratings (which, at last report, were up). The Sixers, on the other hand… well, let’s just say Mr. Snider can’t be too happy that the Sixers are by far at the bottom of the NBA in attendance averaging 11,377 (56%). And those numbers are … shall we say, generous at best. Honestly, it appears to have gotten to the point where they’re selling very few individual game tickets, and basically all of their announced attendance is made up of the season ticket holders, most of whom obviously don’t show up.
Let’s take a look at this:
Home opener (!) vs. Milwaukee – 14,638 announced attendance (67.7%)
Home game vs. Celtics – 11,251 announced attendance (52.1%)
Home game vs. Nets – 10,054 announced attendance (46.5%!)
Home game vs. Phoenix – 10,205 announced attendance (47.2%)
Home game vs. Utah – 10,738 announced attendance (49.7%)
Home game tonight vs. Charlotte – ?
Now, that’s obviously not a large sample size. But with such a consistent, low number it’s probably fair to assume they’re close to hitting rock bottom in terms of individual game tickets, and the announced attendance is made up almost entirely of season ticket holders. For what it’s worth, the Union have more season ticket holders than that already. If that isn’t a reason to bump off the Flyers in favor of the Sixers on your own TV station, I don’t know what is.
Outside of CSN, and outside of the Sixers on CSN, I don’t understand it at all. I admit to looking to see what mainstream media is there recording post-game comments from the players (KYW has started sending someone to every Flyers home game, and I’ve seen 6ABC there I think once — that’s it). Meanwhile, FOX29 sent a camera to record Dalembert talk about trade rumors involving him. And if an Eagle gets a bump on his knee during practice, it’s a top story on every single local news program.
by Ben Feldman on Nov 18, 2009 6:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For what it’s worth, tonight’s Sixers attendance is 11,585 (53.6%).
by Ben Feldman on Nov 18, 2009 8:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah thats bothered me for years. the Flyers have always been a successful team yet take a backseat to the other major sports. thats why i get my Flyer news on the internet or NHLtv. barkann is a blow-hard anyhow
by hockey punk on Nov 18, 2009 6:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That is true to the fullest
i kno eagles aren’t that good this year we still don’t know what kind of team they are sixers have 4 games all of them have a non winning record and maybe 15 ppl show up to those games i went to the buffalo game it sold out and it was like playoff atomsphere even til the end FLYERS are so much more fun too watch then basketball eagles just gett annoying they did the same thing when the phils were in the playoffs this year to
by tjflys10 on Nov 18, 2009 8:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Kings and Flyers have never met in the playoffs, making the Kings the oldest team still in existence that the Flyers have never faced in the postseason.
No time like the present…
by Ben Feldman on Nov 18, 2009 6:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That would be pretty awesome, for sure.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 18, 2009 8:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That is why I love the BSH only place to go for Flyers news and talk. Tuesday’s DNL was a joke the Flyers segment started at 5:53 and end at 5:58 with the show. John Boruk looked shocked. The win over of the Devils and stopping their win streak was big but they didn’t even cover Dave Schultz’s speech or anything, a true disservice.
WIP is an entirely different animal. Many years ago they have totally alienated their hockey fan base even with Morganti and Jonesy, the scorned Flyers fans refuse to call. For some reason the host think their are more Sixers fans than Flyers fans, ticket sales and TV ratings will prove otherwise. I have been dying to bring up WIP to get my views out on this topic. Here are two reasons why the Flyers have been all but forgotten on that station.
1) Ed Snider originally owned the station many many years ago and didn’t want one of his business entities to bash the other. He put a gag on the hosts, if you don’t have any good to say don’t say nothing at all. As you all the press doesn’t like to be told what to do, they still hold some resentment to Mr. Snider to this day. When Ed Snider sued the station and got someone fired for slander after airing/starting the Lindros slept with Roddy B’s wife rumors didn’t help matter either.
2) Flyers fans are for the most part loyal to their team and don’t get all up in arms about every move they make. Negativity is what brings in calls nobody calls in when things are going good but negative ranting and raving drives up ratings. WIP is 95% McNabb sucks Reid sucks over and over again Eagles fans love to hate. The only hockey hating that goes on in this town is goalie controversy and with Emery as the clear number 1 you can’t call up and harp about Nitty starting over Biron.
If you want hockey talk on WIP tune in for the 1st five minutes of the afternoon show at 10am, they usually mention the Flyers in some fashion before the 1st break and that is about it.
by chrislanci on Nov 18, 2009 6:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
And I love how that segment on DNL ended: A question to Boruk about JVR’s nickname. Basically, the question was “I thought hockey nicknames ended in ‘er’. Can’t he get a better nickname?” and Boruk just interrupting him saying “Riemer. JVR is shorthand for media-folk who don’t want to have to say ‘James van Riemsdyk’ all the time.” Really? Your Flyers discussion is about a player’s nickname?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 18, 2009 7:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Didn’t Panaccio quit the Inky because they wanted him to start covering the Eagles? The reason all the reporters are completely unaware/uninformed about the Flyers is because they’re given so little attention. It’s a Catch-22.
I realize that the Sixers are being promoted more heavily because they were a once proud franchise that is suffering, but that’s only due to their own organizational difficiencies and bad choices. The Flyers shouldn’t be penalized because they are perennial contenders; in every other city the teams that contend every season are usually more heavily covered than the O & B.
by doubleh on Nov 18, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Almost 11am on WIP and still no mention of the Flyers win over the Kings from Glenn and Anthony why do I even bother. I should start listening to NHL Center Ice on Sirius I love Scott Ferrel on Howard 101 who talks a lot of hockey on his sport show but it doesn’t start until 8pm, Jim Dowd is a frequent guest. 10:55 1st mention.
by chrislanci on Nov 19, 2009 10:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s NHL Home Ice actually, but yeah, I have XM and that’s pretty much the only channel I listen to. I rarely listen to music on satellite and I listen to POTUS for one show a day, but other then that it’s all on Home Ice. They do an excellent job.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 19, 2009 12:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Other things about the Kings…..that you didn’t mention
Vice President & Assistant General Manager: Ron Hextall (former Flyers Goaltender, and the reason “27” appears in my screen name)
Head Coach: Terry Murray (former Head Coach & Assistant Coach of the Philadelphia Flyers; remember 1996-97 anyone?)
Third line Center: Michal Handzus
First Line Right Winger: Justin Williams
and (drum roll please), Left Defensemen: Randy Jones!!!!!!!!!! (2 goals in 4 games with the Kings)
and let’s not forget they have some very good non-former Flyers too, Anze Kopitar, Dustin Brown (now that’s a good hockey player), Alexandre Frolov
I am not surprised the Kings are good this season. Murray is a good coach, Dustin Brown!
and Randy Jones is going to play with a chip on his shoulder. So, many fans blaimed him for problems surrounding the Flyers D. You wanted him out of down, you ran him out of town, and I bet he plays motivated tonight.
I remember a few seasons ago…everyone Joni Pitkanen was targeted as one of the biggest reasons for the Flyers’ 2006-07 campaign, and the Flyers went up to Edmonton and Joni Pitkanen basically carried the Oilers to a win. I expect Randy Jones to come out with the same energy.
This next stretch of games against some of the top talent & teams in the NHL including the Kings, will tell us just how good Philly is.
Sorry, I invision the Flyers getting “crowned” tonight. 4 to 1.
by FlyersGoalies1and27 on Nov 18, 2009 6:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Randy Jones’ contract ran him out of town much like Danny Briere Flyers fans have nothing against them as hockey players, their cap numbers are the problem.
by chrislanci on Nov 18, 2009 7:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention Jones is getting more time with Scuderi out for the Kings.
The toughest part of this road trip is the five games in seven nights in three time zones. The travel is absolutely brutal. It doesn’t help that every game should be a challenge.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 18, 2009 8:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

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