Game 18, Preview and Open Thread: Late Night With Michal and Randy, Philadelphia Flyers at Los Angeles Kings
Philadelphia Flyers at Los Angeles Kings, Nov 18, 2009 10:30 PM EST
Philadelphia Flyers (11-5-1, 23 pts) at Los Angeles Kings (13-7-2, 28 pts)
Staples Center - 10:30 PM ET - Los Angeles, CA
TV: CSN Philly HD
Radio: 610 WIP, XM 208
This is the open game thread.
Behind Enemy Lines: Battle of California
The Flyers begin a four-game West Coast swing tonight in Los Angeles as they reunite with outcast defenseman Randy Jones. He'll get his chance for revenge tonight as he faces his old team for the first time since they banished him to the minor leagues.
The Kings are depleted with injuries, though. Ryan Smyth found out today that he'll be out for a month while defenseman Rob Scuderi is also missing time. Who needs to step up in Scuderi's absence, according to Battle of California? Take a guess...
Rob Scuderi is almost as important as Ryan Smyth but he's a little easier to replace. Randy "Has a Peephole in His Guest Bathroom" Jones has taken Rob Scuderi's slot. Jones has played a few games for the Kings and is a high plus/minus player. Someone like Rob Scuderi isn't going to give you a lot of plus plays that lead to goals, but he's also not going to make any mistakes that cost the Kings' goals. Jones, on the other hand, will fail to skate hard getting back and cost the Kings a goal (like he did against the Panthers to make it 0-2), but then he'll smartly jump in on the rush and tap in a rebound goal (like he did against the Panthers to make it 3-2). I don't know, I'm not a huge fan of him because I think poor Wayne Simmonds is going to wake up one morning with a sticky face and a lot of questions, but he's fine for a little while.
The Kings also have a few other former Flyers on their roster, but they're two players that were actually liked around these parts. Michal Handzus and Justin Williams are wearing purple and black these days, and Terry "Choking Situation" Murray is their bench boss. Williams should get top line time tonight playing with Alexander Frolov and NHL scoring leader Anze Kopitar. Zus skates with Wayne Simmonds and Teddy Purcell.
On the Philly end, Brian Boucher will get his second start to the season tonight. After a less-than-impressive first outing about a month ago, Boosh will look to get back to winning as he faces a Kings team he got to see a lot of last season. His team played them six times last season and he got in two of those games, winning both. He even shut them out on October 12th. Hopefully, he can put in a serviceable performance tonight considering we're going to be seeing much more of him over the next two months as the schedule picks up.
David Laliberte is back in the Flyers' lineup as Arron Asham exits with an oblique strain. He'll play alongside center Claude Giroux and winger, not defenseman, Darroll Powe. Letting those three loose is an exciting proposition. Other than that, we should see the same lineup tonight as we saw Monday against the Devils.
If you love hockey and have nothing else to do tonight, you'll be a happy camper. There are five games on the NHL schedule this evening and all of them have different start times, so you can catch a ton of hockey from 7 PM to about 1:30 AM when the Flyers are done beating down on the Kings.
After the jump, we'll ask a few questions to be answered as well as the open thread. Join us for some insomniac hockey, won't you?
Questions To Answer
- The Flyers have allowed only six goals in the first period, best in the league. The Kings are close though, only allowing 11 in the first period, good for fourth in the league. Does anybody take over the offensive flow early?
- How does Randy Jones play in his first game against his old team?
- How does Brian Boucher play with something to prove after a terrible first outing? It's been awhile, so is there any rust?
- Does David Laliberte come back where he left off last week as an NHLer?
Tonight's game is at 10:30 Eastern on CSN Philly and 610 WIP. If you can't stay up, it'll replay on The Comcast Network at 6 AM tomorrow and on CSN at 7 PM tomorrow night. If you're staying up late, come by for some company and join our discussion, and as always, LET'S GO FLYERS!
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The least they could do is start this game at 10 instead of 10:30.
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I’ve always wondered what it’d be like to live out west and have games start at 4 and 4:30. Or football games at 10 AM on Sunday
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It might be good if your team isn’t playing particularly well. Whoops, overslept! Missed the beating the Eagles took (or gave themselves as the case may be).
Cute kid in your picture there.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 18, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve wondered that too, but I came to the conclusion that a 4:30 pm game for them is the same as a 10:30 game to us. It means their team is on the road, all the way across the country. Granted, it happens less to teams in the East than it does to teams in the West (Columbus, Nashville for example), but it’s a similar inconvenience.
As for 10 am football games, I’d be surprised if that happened often. Looking at the NFL schedule, Oakland had to do it the only time they came out east so far, but San Diego has had both their east coast games at 4 pm and 8:30, SF had their games against Ten and Atl at 4 pm, and Seattle had their game in Jax at 4 as well. Then again, maybe the NFL is just nicer to their fans than the NHL.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 18, 2009 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone watching this Dallas-Detroit game on NHLN? Unbelievable no goal call there late in the third.
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I just got home and heard about it. What happened?
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 18, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
“Intent” to blow the whistle is ridiculous. But I’m not complaining because I have both Auld and Howard in fantasy.
by Ben Feldman on Nov 18, 2009 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, did they say it wasn’t a goal because of that terribly arbitrary period when the ref decided he was going to blow the whistle but he hadn’t yet?
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 18, 2009 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
The shot went straight in. Whistle or not shouldn’t have mattered.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 18, 2009 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
I can’t believe this shit hasn’t started yet….
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 18, 2009 10:21 PM EST reply actions
I’m getting tired waiting. Once the game starts I should be awake. I think…
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 18, 2009 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
Excited to hear the Flyers contingent in LA. Always around half or so there.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 18, 2009 10:31 PM EST reply actions
Finally, seems like this took forever.
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I really thought i would be fine, but man am I struggling to stay alert here.
This had better be a blowout.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 18, 2009 10:38 PM EST reply actions
Well that was a nice start… so close
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Man, that would have been a nice start.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 18, 2009 10:39 PM EST reply actions
High stakes for Bouch tonight.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 18, 2009 10:40 PM EST reply actions
Definitely
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 18, 2009 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
If he wins tonight I could see him starting 2 more times on this trip
by Prometheus74 on Nov 18, 2009 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
I Love the way Ray is playing but I imagine his ego is still fragile.
Id wager he plays all the Eastern conference teams where the points mean more.
by Prometheus74 on Nov 19, 2009 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
I hate the Kings with purple. They need to go back to the black and silver permanently.
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Those alternates were pretty sharp. They’ve been using them a lot.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 18, 2009 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
Yahoo is streaming this one, guys.
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Where do you see that?
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 18, 2009 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
Looks like it was taken up. I’ll get a screenshot of it later.
by Ben Feldman on Nov 18, 2009 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
The Kings announcers are Flyerphiles. Should make tonight better.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 18, 2009 10:45 PM EST reply actions
They’re simulcasting the CSN Philly broadcast on CSN California, I think
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 18, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
CSN California is in the Bay Area, btw
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 18, 2009 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
I believe they’re rebranding as CSN California, dropping the Bay Area.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 18, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
Never mind, they’re different.
My bad.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 18, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
Quick looks shaky so far.
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Seeing a lot of orange in the stands for sure.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 18, 2009 10:46 PM EST reply actions
Have their been any whistles in this game? They seem eager to get this one done fast, for which I am appreciative.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 18, 2009 10:48 PM EST reply actions
Wild Cherry Pepsi is really good.
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I guess Kopitar is this year’s Carter.
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True story
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 18, 2009 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
Staples Center security probably didn’t believe Coatesy is on TV, so that’s why he’s relegated to some corner (Flyers’ dressing room tunnel?).
hahah. There are seats between the benches in LA.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 18, 2009 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
There’s a big ol Flyers flag behind the Kings downstairs reporter. Beautiful sight.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 18, 2009 10:56 PM EST reply actions
Not to jinx it, but how many 0-0 first periods have the Flyboys had this year? Feels like at least half the games.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 18, 2009 10:57 PM EST reply actions
It helps that they’ve only allowed six first period goals.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 18, 2009 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
He is looking to see if Gretzys blood os on the ice
by Prometheus74 on Nov 18, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
What a horrrrrible goal. Can’t believe I’m awake for this shit.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 18, 2009 11:01 PM EST reply actions
I guess he’s still a lock to make the Olympics?
by Ben Feldman on Nov 18, 2009 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
One of the first things you learn as goalie… never let ’em beat ya short side.
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what a jinx
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 18, 2009 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, he could use from reverse logic.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 18, 2009 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
Cool picture from Twitter…

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Nice shift there
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Decent pressure. It’s been a totally even period, except that Bouch let in the worst Flyers goal against of the year.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 18, 2009 11:08 PM EST reply actions
Besides Coburn’s own goal, I think
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 18, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
Are they saying Flyers suck?
It’s one thing chanting that for a rival… but saying that we suck when we never play each other proves they chant that at every game, and that’s just kinda pathetic.
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I’m guessing its an echo of a loud “Let’s Go Flyers” chant. Happens in DC all the time.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 18, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
I guess they’ll be leaving at the start of the third, too.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 18, 2009 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
ba dum chh
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 18, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
I actually heard a ton of Eagles fans chanting throughout that debacle on Sunday. Although those were San Diegans, not LA LA landers…
There were a TON of Eagles fans there on Sunday.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 18, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
TWO penalties? WTF people, WTF.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 18, 2009 11:10 PM EST reply actions
Wait, I went to pee real quick… what the hell just happened?
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That period seemed quick but it really wasn’t
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What a horrible 5-on-3 by LA.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 18, 2009 11:13 PM EST reply actions
Yep… passes into skates, holding the puck too long, didn’t spread out enough..
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 18, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
Hell of a kill.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 18, 2009 11:29 PM EST reply actions
Definitely helped by the period break though.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 18, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
Nice kill. Big block there by Betts.
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early contender for comment of the night
by Prometheus74 on Nov 18, 2009 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
Speaking of, JVR has been totally invisible tonight.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 18, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
… he heard you.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 19, 2009 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
A power play would be nice sometime soon…
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 18, 2009 11:41 PM EST reply actions
PYORALA!
Beautiful jinxing, whoever that was.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 18, 2009 11:42 PM EST reply actions
That is a beautiful goal to boot.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 18, 2009 11:42 PM EST reply actions
Man, that’s gotta be the best feeling in the world.
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Pyorala gets bkhand goal to tie. Alas, he wont have much to say about it. Bad quote. 1-1 game.
The one and only Mr. Positive.
What a jerk.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 18, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
I called him out on it on Twitter… well, kinda. 140 character limit sucks.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 18, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
Even better… he calls him a bad quote but the poor guy barely speaks English
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 18, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions
Pronger just knows that he runs shit out there. He can do anything he wants.
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I’m thinking there will be a goal here on this 4v4.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 18, 2009 11:51 PM EST reply actions
That jerk in the number 20 Kings jersey at Boosh’s end wont sit down, and the people behind him all have to stand up to see the play.
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The Kings have extremely active sticks. They go after every puck.
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I needed that commercial break, too. I hadn’t seen that BP commercial in like 10 minutes — I had almost forgotten the sequence.
by Ben Feldman on Nov 18, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
Lot of bait given to Jones here in this interview to attack the Flyers, but he didn’t bite at all. Good guy.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 18, 2009 11:57 PM EST reply actions
Wish I could’ve seen that.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 18, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
If I were at the game I would be furious at that number 20 guy. He’s annoying me from 3,000 miles away.
PUT YOUR ARMS DOWN AND SIT IN A CHAIR
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Enthusiasm is one thing. Having etiquette for the people around you is another.
I had season tickets to a minor league club for four seasons. So many people who didn’t care, kids, etc… I’m big on fan etiquette, especially people standing up during play, walking down the aisles to their seats during play, etc.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 19, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
BAM!
That was pretttttty.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 19, 2009 12:01 AM EST reply actions
YEAH!
Weird goal… didn’t seem like it went in. But hey, I’ll take it.
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Much better on the replay.
Shot was quicker than Quick…
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That’s some seriously offensive minded PKing.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 19, 2009 12:03 AM EST reply actions
Wowww, a penalty against the Kings? There’s a first.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 19, 2009 12:04 AM EST reply actions
And Brown heads right for the dressing room…hope he’s learned where the cameras are in there by now.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 19, 2009 12:04 AM EST reply actions
After 3 years of WTF!
I finally figured out the blasted Toyota 3 starts points logic
5 pts for the 1st star
3 pts of the 2nd star
1 point for the 3rd star
Haha yup, I could have explained that one if you had asked…
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 19, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
You’d think it’d just be 3, 2, 1, right?
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 19, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
gotta love Cotsey.
“It seems as though the the Defender with the most points wins the Norris trophy every year.” Try explaining that to Mike Green.
I’m so sick of Mike Green. If I was Yzerman there’s no way I’d put him on Team Canada.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 19, 2009 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
That might have something to do with you living in DC, though…
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 19, 2009 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
Oh definitely. I don’t claim any sort of rationale or impartiality.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 19, 2009 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
Lazy, not great offensively, and suspect conditioning. I figure Canada will have enough offense from their offense that they don’t need a defenseman who is only average at actual defense.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 19, 2009 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
So tired I didn’t realize the difference.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 19, 2009 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
He has a hell of a shot but his d skills often remind me of Randy Jones.
by Prometheus74 on Nov 19, 2009 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
Very nice pass down low there from Briere.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 19, 2009 12:24 AM EST reply actions
JVR!
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 19, 2009 12:25 AM EST reply actions
JVR! 3-1!
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I like hockey a lot.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 19, 2009 12:25 AM EST reply actions
Bad turnover by Parent, Boosh bails him out.
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I can’t believe people still propose on the arena scoreboard. It’s so unoriginal now.
Apologies to anybody who got engaged in a sports arena…
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Agreed
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 19, 2009 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
So much more romantic and with the times to tweet your engagement while at a sporting event
by Prometheus74 on Nov 19, 2009 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
Would you be ok with it ending in a similar fashion to the 2009 Phils?
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 19, 2009 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
No. If we get that far, I want to win.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 19, 2009 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
Was thinking the same thing. The best part is he does the same thing, but opposite, on Phils radio.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 19, 2009 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
Way too much good pressure there from LA.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 19, 2009 12:30 AM EST reply actions
That was a dirty move by Giroux. I did something like that to a 12 year old in open hockey once.
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I haven’t played in months actually. :(
But it was within the last year…. haha
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 19, 2009 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
Here at BSH, we not only bring you unparalleled Flyers coverage, we also do dirty things to 12 year olds.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 19, 2009 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
We’ve got a new slogan, folks.
That would open us up to a whole new audience…
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 19, 2009 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
Probably get a lot of Dustin Brown fans.
by Ben Feldman on Nov 19, 2009 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
Whatever happened to weekly the State of the flyers fan poll.
I know the schedule made it odd for a while but now that they are going be rolling games non stop it might be good to bring back on a weekly basis.
I know you guys do a ton already, and I appreciate all the work done to keep the site with good content on a daily basis
Wow, I swore I set it to publish on Monday morning. I wasn’t doing it because of the wacky schedule, but I failed to realize it didn’t publish. Next week, back on it.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 19, 2009 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
LA outshooting us 29-18
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Boucher has been super adequate.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 19, 2009 12:43 AM EST up reply actions
That phrase puts it real well, actually.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 19, 2009 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
That’s why I get paid the big bucks to write this stuff.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 19, 2009 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
Hugely important kill here
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So much for that…
what a shot.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 19, 2009 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
Man, Brown put a perfect screen on there. Nothing Boosh could do.
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Assist to Timonen on the screen there as well.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 19, 2009 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah… not much he could do in terms of clearing Brown out of there, of course. Guy is tiny.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 19, 2009 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
Pressure the other way please, Flyers.
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Clockwatching time…
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 19, 2009 12:46 AM EST reply actions
Give credit to LA, too. They’re a very good team.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 19, 2009 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
So irritating.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 19, 2009 12:51 AM EST up reply actions
Where is he sitting?
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 19, 2009 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
Thirdish row at about the faceoff dot in the right hand end, right along that aisle
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 19, 2009 12:53 AM EST up reply actions
LA is just all over us right now.
Killer turnovers aren’t helping…
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4:37 left, let’s get the two points in regulation, boys.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 19, 2009 12:50 AM EST reply actions
Two identical plays in each direction practically. Weird.
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Great stick lift by whoever was covering Carter there.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 19, 2009 12:54 AM EST reply actions
Booooooooooooooooooosh
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Long 36 seconds coming up here…
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 19, 2009 12:57 AM EST reply actions
Again….
Booooooooooooooooooosh
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Timeouts are so hot right now.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 19, 2009 12:59 AM EST reply actions
OH MY GOD
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My heart just stopped.
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do i really wanna know what happened at the end?
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 19, 2009 1:01 AM EST reply actions
Went through Boosh’s legs and just snuck by the post… an inch away from a goal
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 19, 2009 1:01 AM EST up reply actions
a W is a W, even if it almost causes cardiac arrest
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 19, 2009 1:03 AM EST up reply actions
whew!
Good win!
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“Good morning from Los Angeles, SportsRise is next…”
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Recap is up, swing the conversation over there (once you wake up)
http://www.broadstreethockey.com/2009/11/19/1164215/pyorala-powers-flyers-3-2-win-over
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