Game 19, Preview and Open Thread: Into The Shark Tank, Philadelphia Flyers at San Jose Sharks
by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 9:05 PM EST
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Philadelphia Flyers (12-5-1, 25 pts) at San Jose Sharks (14-5-4, 32 pts)
HP Pavilion - 10:00 PM ET - San Jose, CA
TV: CSN Philly HD, NHL Network US HD
Radio: 610 WIP, XM 205
This is the open game thread.
Behind Enemy Lines: Fear The Fin, Battle of California
The Flyers continue one of the hardest stretches of their season tonight as their West Coast swing takes them into San Jose, California to take on the Sharks. As was the case on Thursday in Los Angeles, tonight's game will not be an easy task for the Flyers. San Jose boasts the league's best record and they're also without a regulation loss at home this season, going 6-0-2. They're also 6-1-3 in their last ten.
So why should we expect anything different than the 4-1 beating the Sharks put on our boys last month in Philadelphia? Well, for starters, Ray Emery is in goal tonight, and he's a much better goalie then the Sharks saw in Brian Boucher on October 25. Secondly, the Sharks faced a Flyers team that was struggling on defense at the time. In fact, Kimmo Timonen and Braydon were on the ice for all four SJ goals that night, which provides a nice little window in how they were playing at the time.
They've picked things up since then, and so have the Flyers overall. Since losing consecutive games to the Sharks and the Capitals two nights later in DC, the orange and black are 6-1, and they've scored two goals for every one allowed. They've shown in that stretch that they're the team we thought they were at the beginning of the season, with a prolific offense and a shutdown defense. Add in consistent goaltending and you've got a team that has a good shot at handing San Jose their first home loss of the season.
As for the Sharks, they're coming off a road trip in which they went 1-1-1. After losing their most recent game to Nashville on Tuesday night, San Jose has had plenty of time to rest and prepare their game plan for the Flyers. That's why it'll be important for our boys to set the tone early and get the Sharks off that plan.
San Jose has the second best offense in the league. They've scored 76 goals so far this season -- compared to the Flyers 65 -- but seemingly out of respect for the Flyers' D, coach Todd McLellan has opted to throw his three best scorers on one line tonight. Joe Thornton, Patrick Marleau, and Dany Heatley will start the game for them tonight, and it'll likely be up to Chris Pronger and Matt Carle to stop them.
That could be the story line of the game right there. McLellan has said that he won't keep that line together if it means the other three have to struggle. But could you imagine seeing Pronger, who is HATED in San Jose, and Carle, who used to play for the Sharks, going head-to-head against a line all night that has a combined 834 NHL goals? I hope it happens.
After the jump, we've got a few questions to answer tonight, and of course another late night open thread. Join us, won't you?
Questions To Answer
- How long does SJ keep the Thornton-Marleau-Heatley line together, and if it's together for a while, can the Flyers shut them down? If not, can the Flyers keep those players off the score sheet anyway?
- The Flyers put 38 shots on Thomas Greiss last month but could only put one by him. Tonight, it's a much daunting task in net with Evgeni Nabokov. How do they fare?
- Philly escaped LA with a win despite putting in a less-than-complete effort. Can they earn a win with a full 60 minute effort tonight?
- How badly does Pronger, who knocked the Sharks out of the playoffs in the first round at HP Pavilion last April, get booed by the San Jose faithful?
Tonight's game is on Comcast SportsNet and 610 WIP locally. You won't find it on NHL Center Ice in the States because it's on NHL Network. As always, join us here for the late-night conversation and LET'S GO FLYERS!
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Big game here, if you ask me. Top team in the league, on their ice.
Win this one and you prove something.
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Big loss by the Caps at home to the Canadiens. With their games in hand, Flyers have a real legit shot at the top of the East.
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Exactly.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 20, 2009 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks to NJ and Pitt losing last night, we can take over first in the Atlantic with our games in hand as well.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
If we win both tonight and tomorrow, you mean?
By the way, isn’t the record in the right column already one win behind?
by DragonGirl0583 on Nov 20, 2009 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, but we’ve got a lot in hand on Pittsburgh and we’re right there with Jersey now. We’re in a good spot if we come out of this road trip successfully.
Easier said than done, of course.
Like I said, this is one of the toughest stretches of the season, this here trip.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
I can’t wait til next year when we wear the retro whites are our everyday whites.
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I like em, minus those idiotic black nameplates.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 20, 2009 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
Those things have grown on me, but yeah… I agree. I don’t see the point. Black lettering, anyone?
It’s not even retro… they weren’t there in the 70s. Maybe only for a few games, if at all.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
I like seeing the wack shack in all orange. With everyone buying new retro jerseys it will be speckled
by Prometheus74 on Nov 20, 2009 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
Boo, Sharks feed on NHLN. Was hoping for a Philly perspective for once.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 20, 2009 10:04 PM EST reply actions
At least your NHLN is working, mine’s frozen.
by DragonGirl0583 on Nov 20, 2009 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty even in terms of points per game between these two:
Philly: 1.38
SJ: 1.39
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 20, 2009 10:05 PM EST reply actions
I don’t think its a smart idea for them to be putting all their eggs in one basket on the top line tonight. You shouldn’t challenge The Pronger like that.
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Just more motivation.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
Uh, Kyle McLaren jersey on CSN?
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Were they? I don’t know.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
Pronger > McLaren
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
Understatement of decade right there.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 20, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
Radio show debate right there.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
Hm, I wonder if that had anything to do with getting McLaren at the deadline last year. Maybe they were hoping some of the old magic with Carle would help him.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
haha, he’s in the lineup.
Can you even call him a former Flyer?
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
I think I hate the goal cam.
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The actual camera in the goal, or the camera atop the glass, behind the goal?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 20, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
In the goal.
I’m one of the few that actually kinda likes the one atop the glass. Only when set up on the PP though.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
I agree. But some angles are different, I found.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 20, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
That was pretty nifty puck protection there by Pyorala.
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I love the boos for Pronger. Absolutely love it.
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RAAAAAAY
Nice kick save.
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peco time!
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Or not, I can’t read.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
YEAH!
Shortie! What awesome penalty killing by Giroux
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4 on 4, but still awesome.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 20, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
I really need to learn the situation.
4 on 4 hockey, you idiot.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Ugly goal, but a thing of beauty.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 20, 2009 10:25 PM EST reply actions
Matthew Carle. he’s definitely on a mission.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 20, 2009 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
Goal was ugly. Play leading up to it was not.
Well, from our side.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
I forget, who was it that was always drinking wine during hockey games? doubleh?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 20, 2009 10:26 PM EST reply actions
Yeah haha
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
We went out to dinner tonight, so I’m three glasses of wine, one beer, and a glass of whiskey in. It’s fantastic.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 20, 2009 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
Yep. But I think I need a glass now, I’m on the phone with Comcast they’re trying to get the feed fixed.
by DragonGirl0583 on Nov 20, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
There’s a feed at atdhe.net for the time being if you can’t get it fixed.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
Yay thanks, I couldn’t remember the name of the site. It’s apparently out in my neighborhood, silly Comcast.
by DragonGirl0583 on Nov 20, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
It likes to do that a lot in my neighborhood on Sunday’s during football. Several weeks in a row its done it now.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
Well, consider me the minority, but in terms of customer service, I find Comcast to be rather good at it. Compatively, anyway.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 20, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
Verizon is the worst.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
I gave them the “I only stay with you guys so I don’t lose any Flyers games” spiel and they gave me a $30 credit on my bill, so I’m not complaining now that I have the web feed, hehe.
by DragonGirl0583 on Nov 20, 2009 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
They give you anything if you complain.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
Hey! I resemble that remark. I drink beer, too. It’s just that wine is more slimming and actually carries some health benefits, however marginal.
haha, I'm going to make fun of your typo, but it's because I've been drinking:
You resemble that remark? haha. Made me laugh.
I love wine. The problem, though, is the wicked hangovers I get from it. Great drunk, terrible hangover.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 20, 2009 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
Glad to make you laugh
Not a typo—just a stupid saying my Dad always used to use. And for once, I’ve had nothing to drink, but only because I am sick as a dog right now.
Everyone in my family uses the same saying too, so you and your dad aren’t alone.
by DragonGirl0583 on Nov 20, 2009 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t worry Geoff… I haven’t heard the saying.
Mean Girls is on TBS, ladies…
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
Mean Girls??? YES!!!!
I actually do enjoy that movie though, all kidding aside. Back when Lindsay Lohan was hot…
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 20, 2009 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
I was flipping between that and the news before the game….
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
lol, I just don’t wanna catch swine flu, which has to be what you have because it’s going to cause the end of the world.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, no—you’re not one of those alarmists, are you? I firmly believe it’s no worse than any other flu. It’s just bronchitis, so I don’t think you can catch it. Haha.
haha, it is no worse than any other flu. Those alarmists piss me off.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 20, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
haha, I was being sarcastic.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
Interesting. My gf always misspeaks, so I’ve heard it before, but never intentionally.
You’ve been sick for a little while now, haven’t you?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 20, 2009 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
Hopefully they’re taking care of you, since I’m assuming you got sick while taking care of them.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 20, 2009 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
Sharks — 3 for 29 at home on the PP
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Jesus, how did they not score there?
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 20, 2009 10:30 PM EST reply actions
JJ’s voice went down like he knew SJ was gonna score and somehow we kept it out.
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How is the Sharks PP so good on the road (2nd) and so bad at home (30th)???
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 20, 2009 10:30 PM EST reply actions
A kill is a kill, but man was that sloppy.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 20, 2009 10:32 PM EST reply actions
If you’re gonna smack ’em in the face with your stick, might as well do it all out like Carter did there.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 20, 2009 10:34 PM EST reply actions
Consider me less than impressed with the Sharks offense right now. It looks like they’re trying to be too fancy.
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…as I hit enter.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
That one had eyes.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 20, 2009 10:36 PM EST reply actions
And two Flyers deflections toward the net.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 20, 2009 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
Off Giroux and then off Timmonen? Is that really what they said?
by DragonGirl0583 on Nov 20, 2009 10:36 PM EST reply actions
Thats what it was.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 20, 2009 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
CSN graphic:
“GOAL MALHORTA (4) PP”
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CSN graphic:
"GOAL MALHORTA (5) PP"
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
Okay, I’m officially confused…. Is anyone else seeing the game work on CSN?
by DragonGirl0583 on Nov 20, 2009 10:44 PM EST reply actions
Yep, it’s on CSN here..
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
Wow, SJ fans have gotta love that one.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 20, 2009 11:05 PM EST reply actions
What the hell is up with Pronger staying on his feet tonight?
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This is what one would call a good time to fight.
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This is what one would call a bad time to lose a fight.
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The ice might be weird in San Jose. They’ve been such a good team on home ice the last two years, and that would be an excellent explanation. Obviously they’re a good team too, but they’ve been ridiculous at home.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
Kinda like Washington, too.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
Some scary moments in this game. Geez, you’d think they did something to ice over there, because a lot of Flyers don’t seem to be too steady on their skates tonight, Emery had a tough time getting back into the goal there
by DragonGirl0583 on Nov 20, 2009 11:09 PM EST reply actions
Lets hope they can make something out of this PP.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 20, 2009 11:10 PM EST reply actions
Richards has shown some bad decisions with the puck on this PP
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 20, 2009 11:11 PM EST reply actions
Giroux just got jumped.
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On what looked like yet another set play. Seriously, who are these “Flyers” with their set plays??
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 20, 2009 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
Oh my god, there must be something wrong with that ice, this is ridiculous
by DragonGirl0583 on Nov 20, 2009 11:12 PM EST reply actions
This ice is way worse in the 2nd.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 20, 2009 11:12 PM EST reply actions
Okay, the ref fell too. What the hell is going on?
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And yet the Sharks aren’t falling…
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 20, 2009 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe JJ is right. Maybe this is a giant conspiracy.
by Ben Feldman on Nov 20, 2009 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
It’s not too hard to believe, at the moment
by DragonGirl0583 on Nov 20, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
You can’t even use the excuse that it’s warm because San Jose just isn’t a warm city. Very similar to our weather, I believe.
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And now I’m shaking my head, because there was just a shoe commercial referencing “Stayonyourfeet.com”
by DragonGirl0583 on Nov 20, 2009 11:16 PM EST reply actions
hahaha
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
Rather than send an email to Ben and Travis, did you guys see what Derek at the C&B did? I got it from the group email. Very cool, IMO.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 20, 2009 11:17 PM EST reply actions
I think I missed that one…?
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
He apparently has been trying to promote FanPosts, so he asked a commenter to write an article. When the guy did, he put it on the front page with an editor’s note.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 20, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, yeah. I did see that.
I asked a Flyers fan on Twitter to write an article about going to the game tonight. Apparently she’s going to.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
Jones says there might be something on the Flyers bench — a piece of cement or something — that might be screwing with the Flyers skates.
Totally possible…
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Sounds like something the league might want to look into and outlaw, if it’s true.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 20, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
Probably just something small like a stone or something.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
Alright ladies and gents. Just got in from Pittsburgh’s Light Up Night. Not liking this score at all!
by Mitchell Green on Nov 20, 2009 11:18 PM EST reply actions
That sounds lame. Not sure if it’s the Pittsburgh part or what…
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
Haha, it’s totally the Pittsburgh part. Light Up Night is pretty sweet.
I can’t recall, do they open up the rink at PPG on Light Up Night?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 20, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
Yupp, they had the rink open and a huge Christmas tree.
It was alright. Got to watch some fireworks and spend time with the lady friend.
…best part, didn’t miss the Flyers game haha!
by Mitchell Green on Nov 20, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
haha, oh how I miss Pittsburgh… Aside from the sports, obvoiusly.
Light Up Night is less about what the city does, and more about what you do, both before going and while there.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 20, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
So uh, what lights up?
Is it just a tree lighting?
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
Yea they decorate the entire city with christmas lights and then light a really big xmas tree and have fireworks. nothing too amazing, just a nice night!
by Mitchell Green on Nov 20, 2009 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
The city shuts down a couple of city blocks, has a ton of vendors open for shopping, a few tables for free food and stuff, have christmas decorations up, light the city’s tree, set off fireworks, and open up the tiny ice rink around the tree. It’s basically for either familiies, dates, or drunk college students looking for something “Pittsburgh” to do. Good time though.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 20, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
I actually like Pittsburgh, for the most part. Like, the city. And only maybe ten square blocks of it. But still, it’s not so bad. The people, on the other hand…
That’s kinda how I feel about New York, too. I love New York City, but I cannot stand New Yorkers.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
I hear ya. That is exactly how I feel . . .
The people are annoying and I obviously hate their sports. Everything else isn’t too bad.
by Mitchell Green on Nov 20, 2009 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
I love the city, HATE the people. I mean, there are so many great areas: The Strip, South Side, Squirrel Hill, Downtown, and most of all, Oakland.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 20, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
The skyline is beautiful at night. Especially from PNC Park. My favorite place to watch a ball game.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve been to 26 of 30 MLB parks, and PNC is my favorite.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 20, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
Wow. That’s impressive. I’ve been to 3.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 20, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve been to seven, I think. Not sure if I should count Fenway after the Winter Classic.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
I still prefer CBP. Mainly because of Ashburn Alley.
The skyline coming out of tunnel is unparalleled.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 20, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
I love CBP too. It’s close. And it’s ours so it probably takes the cake.
But, you know what I mean.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
My girlfriend lives in Squirrel Hill. I love it! Its got great places to eat and get coffee and its close to the Waterfront. Prime location! Headed to the South Side tomorrow night to hit up some bars.
by Mitchell Green on Nov 20, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
haha, so I’m assuming she loves The Cage (a.k.a. the Squirrel Hill Cafe). My best friend still in the City lives right across from the police station on Asbury Place.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 20, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
Haha yea we have hit up the Cage a couple times.
by Mitchell Green on Nov 20, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
I missed it, what happened?
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
“ruptured testicle”
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
haha, +1
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 20, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
Yikes
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 20, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
Hook on the Sharks. Time to tie this game up!
by Mitchell Green on Nov 20, 2009 11:19 PM EST reply actions
Oh and Giroux too… The Shark’s have really got in for us tonight
by DragonGirl0583 on Nov 20, 2009 11:19 PM EST reply actions
Carter just did a full lap around the offensive zone. Totally ridiculous.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 20, 2009 11:20 PM EST reply actions
Real nice backcheck there by Coburn.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 20, 2009 11:20 PM EST reply actions
OMG a Briere fight.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 20, 2009 11:21 PM EST reply actions
Hahaha, Briere.
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Pickles put his glove in Danny’s face. Oh helllll no.
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Too much Mean Girls, Travis.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 20, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
I should say at least he doesnt under normal circumstances, I shouldnt really say never
by DragonGirl0583 on Nov 20, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
Last time Vlasic fought…. 04-05 in juniors.
Briere vs Pickles is the most rare fight in the world.
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Worst part about that goal that Pronger fell on is that it brings down Matt Carle’s super +/-
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 20, 2009 11:26 PM EST reply actions
JVR, from his reaction.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
SCOOOOORE!
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JVR!!!!
4 games in a row. What a beast of a kid.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 20, 2009 11:26 PM EST reply actions
Hahaha, Malhotra
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NVM, that’s totally a complete own goal by Malhotra
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 20, 2009 11:27 PM EST reply actions
Linesman goes down again…
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 20, 2009 11:29 PM EST reply actions
Sharks announcers are saying it should be Giroux’s goal
by Mitchell Green on Nov 20, 2009 11:29 PM EST reply actions
So is Jonesy, he thinks Giroux touched it last.
by DragonGirl0583 on Nov 20, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
Only his third. JVR can afford to share.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 20, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
And wait for the game winner, in order to tie an NHL record.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 20, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
Actually, he’d set the record, wouldn’t he? I thought he’d already tied it.
by Ben Feldman on Nov 20, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure. My memory of the story is something about a guy in the 40’s, with JVR tying a ton of players from the 90’s. You may be right, I don’t recall.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 20, 2009 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
Might be different records. The rookie record is three.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
Ah, that must be my confusion.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 20, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, the record is three.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
Yzerman in the house, scouting for Team Canada.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 20, 2009 11:33 PM EST reply actions
Hopefully, he’s unimpressed with Carter yet again.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 20, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
He was in Philly for like three straight games a few weeks ago.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
With Luongo injured and Flower drooping could Emery become a surprise 3rd Goalie?
by Prometheus74 on Nov 20, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
Terrilbe penalty by Carter. So dumb . . .
by Mitchell Green on Nov 20, 2009 11:38 PM EST reply actions
Fuck.
Can’t we get an early whistle on that?
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 20, 2009 11:42 PM EST reply actions
Ref knew it was loose the entire time. Great call not to blow it dead actually.
by Mitchell Green on Nov 20, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
What a terrible goal. Clear the freaken puck!
by Mitchell Green on Nov 20, 2009 11:42 PM EST reply actions
I was about to say before the goal, and I’ll say even more now, that I totally would be happy with an OT loss tonight.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 20, 2009 11:44 PM EST reply actions
I would be happy with a win.
We’re due to beat these guys. Every goal has been the result of a lucky break, so now we get one more. At the very least, it should be tied at 3 at some point in the 3rd.
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Both Pronger and Emery are pissed. We’ll see how they respond — that’s an incredibly important thing we need to know if we expect this team to get past the first round.
It's too early to say that.
We haven’t beaten the Sharks in almost 10 years. Sometimes a team has your number, which they definitely do ours. It’s a shame.
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I agree, but I also agree that it would be extremely good to know that Pronger and Emery can turn anger into winning.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
I just want to know how they respond (specifically Emery). Whether or not the Flyers win isn’t necessarily relevant.
by Ben Feldman on Nov 20, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sure they'll compete.
But to steal a phrase or two from Chris Wheeler: “You know, a guy like Ray makes that play maybe 99 times out of 100, but this time he just bobbles it and it gets past him. That’s just the way things have been going tonight. This is a really weird game!”
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And here I thought I was done with Wheels until February…
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 21, 2009 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
In all fairness...
… JJ did say something the other night about the Phillies getting a power play goal.
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Travis— here’s a piece I did on the ice in San Jose earlier this summer.
Long story short, yes it’s always this bad.
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What a guy.
Thanks, Jason.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 20, 2009 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
No problem— I’ve had some buddies over tonight and haven’t been participating in the thread but saw you popped by.
It’s pretty atrocious at times. Nothing new, unfortunately.
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The Flyers’ ice seems to be at its best in October until the Sixers start playing, then it goes downhill. Are there any other teams who play at the HP Pavillion regularly? Maybe that affects the ice quality.
Or maybe… just MAYBE… it’s Bono’s fault. Somehow.
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I’m of the opinion that you can blame Bono for everything. Him and Al Gore.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 20, 2009 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
Such an unlikely pair!
But maybe you know something we don’t…
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haha, basically two guys I think have some very good things to say and who make an important contribution to society. But their delivery lessens their message, since both are just very annoying. Bono more than Gore, but still.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 21, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
Gore is just boring.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 21, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
The worst in in May when the circus comes to town
by Prometheus74 on Nov 21, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
Some very good pressure from the Flyers early here.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 21, 2009 12:02 AM EST reply actions
We’re outhitting them (barely) but does it seem to anyone else that they’re a lot more physical then us tonight?
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It feels like we’re getting beat up to me, even though the numbers don’t say that. I think all those falls are making it seem worse, though
by DragonGirl0583 on Nov 21, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
Nabokov robbed him on that one
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Great play by Nabokov there.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 21, 2009 12:05 AM EST reply actions
Keep up the pressure, it’ll happen.
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Gotta bury that Richie. Awesome pokecheck by Nabokov though…
by Mitchell Green on Nov 21, 2009 12:06 AM EST reply actions
I know Parent’s a defensive defenseman and he is just trying to make the smart play, but I feel like I’ve seen him fire the puck into the corner three times as often as I’ve seen him fire a shot toward the net. Not necessarily a complaint, but sometimes I wonder if he just fires it into the corner without thinking, just like when I say “Thanks, you too” when someone tells me to have a good flight. Anyone?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 21, 2009 12:08 AM EST reply actions
Oh, man I am fading fast. I am exhausted.
by Mitchell Green on Nov 21, 2009 12:08 AM EST reply actions
GREAT shift there.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 21, 2009 12:11 AM EST reply actions
Good pressure. Glad to get rewarded with a PP.
by Mitchell Green on Nov 21, 2009 12:11 AM EST reply actions
Thornton waited all day on that one.
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This is why you don’t put three guys behind the goal line.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 21, 2009 12:13 AM EST reply actions
HELL YEAH!
Hockey game, folks.
And The Pronger is pissed.
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Giroux!
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 21, 2009 12:15 AM EST reply actions
I would still totally settle for the OT loss…
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 21, 2009 12:15 AM EST reply actions
Love Hartnell tackling Pickles for going after Giroux.
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you can count on him and Lappy for that
by Prometheus74 on Nov 21, 2009 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
Such animosity from the Sharks… Who knew West/East teams could have such negative feelings.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 21, 2009 12:16 AM EST reply actions
Well we are a threat to win the West this year
by Prometheus74 on Nov 21, 2009 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
I know…. My fiance just came home, watched about 2 minutes of the game, and was like “wow, these two teams hate each other”. The animosity is prevalent tonight.
by DragonGirl0583 on Nov 21, 2009 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
Hartzy mixing it up! Good for Claudy!
Vlasic is a dirty P.O.S.! This better result in a Flyers PP. Vlasic took a cheapshot on Hartnell well after the goal!
by Mitchell Green on Nov 21, 2009 12:17 AM EST reply actions
Not gonna happen. Ridiculous.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 21, 2009 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
Unbelievable that we don’t get a power play for that cross check.
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Vlasic didn’t even get a penalty.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 21, 2009 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
“Hey stripes, keep me outta the box and I’ll get you all the pickle products you want…”
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 21, 2009 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
Sharks have taken a page outta the Flyers book in being unable to clear the zone…
by Mitchell Green on Nov 21, 2009 12:20 AM EST reply actions
Sigh. Not fair.
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There is just something irregular about tonights game. Can’t really explain it.
by Mitchell Green on Nov 21, 2009 12:21 AM EST reply actions
Good call, I guess.
Still bitter we didn’t get a PP after the goal.
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….even more bitter now.
At least it was quick?
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 21, 2009 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
Bah, well at least the powerplay is over…. we need to make something happen
by DragonGirl0583 on Nov 21, 2009 12:23 AM EST reply actions
There’s like nine hats. What a joke.
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An OT loss would be amazing.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 21, 2009 12:24 AM EST reply actions
haha, what seemed like pessimism is now dreaming.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 21, 2009 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed. Not really impressed with the Flyers tonight either.
by Mitchell Green on Nov 21, 2009 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
This whole game has been weird and crappy.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 21, 2009 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
I’m not too impressed with anything tonight.
by Ben Feldman on Nov 21, 2009 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe they could have done a better job if they had stayed on their feet long enough to pay attention? They fell almost as much as we did
by DragonGirl0583 on Nov 21, 2009 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
I’d love to play these guys in the playoffs.
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I’d rather face Nashville.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 21, 2009 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
Columbus.
Not a bad drive.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 21, 2009 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
Nashville would be crazy easy to get tickets to though.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 21, 2009 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
Good point.
Phoenix, maybe?
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 21, 2009 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
Wasn’t Colorado having some attendance woes, too?
At least in Phoenix the tickets would be discounted, hehe.
by DragonGirl0583 on Nov 21, 2009 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, but they’d sell out quickly for a Final.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 21, 2009 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
Especially not for those poor souls stuck in Pittsburgh
by DragonGirl0583 on Nov 21, 2009 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
Thats what I was thinking but I will be back home in Philly by the time we are in Stanley Cup finals.
by Mitchell Green on Nov 21, 2009 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
Well, winning the west will likely go through San Jose, so we’ll probably play them at some point if we want to get to the Finals.
by Ben Feldman on Nov 21, 2009 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
Sigh, ball game.
A few rough breaks. Oh well.
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I guess playing defense was not a priority tonight.
by Mitchell Green on Nov 21, 2009 12:29 AM EST reply actions
Terrible rebound. Would be worse if this game was still winnable, or even OT lossable.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 21, 2009 12:29 AM EST reply actions
So, Bartulis’ man scores a goal. Think this loss is his fault?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 21, 2009 12:29 AM EST reply actions
Easier said than done on the PP.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 21, 2009 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
I feek like SJ has scored all their goals on broken plays.
by Mitchell Green on Nov 21, 2009 12:31 AM EST reply actions
Off topic: Those “My name is Ram, and my tank is full” commercials really grind my gears. They make no sense at all.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 21, 2009 12:31 AM EST reply actions
I’ll feel a little better if we at least try to play for the next 3 minutes… giving up completely is just going to make the pain worse
by DragonGirl0583 on Nov 21, 2009 12:33 AM EST reply actions
I'd almost rather we save our energy.
We have to hop on a plane and get to Phoenix for a game tomorrow night – a game we need to win.
I feel bad as a Flyers fan saying “Save it for tomorrow” but we may as well at this point.
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Game is at 8, too. And that’s not a quick flight.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 21, 2009 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
Okay, retaliate for that BS though.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 21, 2009 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
5 pm local, right?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 21, 2009 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
PST, MST, no idea…
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 21, 2009 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
Whatever 8 our time is. I don’t even know what time zone Phoenix is in, and then Arizona does weird stuff with daylight savings time. I don’t have a clue.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 21, 2009 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
Shame its under 5 mins. If we are gonna lose I’d love to see some more rough stuff.
by Mitchell Green on Nov 21, 2009 12:33 AM EST reply actions
Yuck.
It’s not often I turn off a Flyers game before it’s actually done, but I just did.
Bad loss tonight. Usually I’ll be the first to credit the other team for having a good game, which the Sharks did. But we never really established any sustained momentum, and Emery had an off night. Giroux got himself back on track (scoring-sheet wise), so that’s good news.
We’ll have to wait until next year to beat the Sharks. I never used to have any feelings about them one way or the other but now I can’t stand them. Wonder why that is.
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Carcillo took a penalty and I don’t even really care.
I’m not too mad about this game.. I don’t think we played terribly, or at least I don’t think we’ve been outplayed by them too badly.
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Emery falls…
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Giroux falls…
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It's fixed.
I’ve never seen a game where the visiting team keeps falling down like this. Usually if the ice is bad it’s bad for everyone.
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I’ve been thinking that in addition to the falls, there sure seems to be a lot more loose powder than normal on the top of that ice. And it was building up early in the period, too.
by DragonGirl0583 on Nov 21, 2009 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
Retaliate. Now.
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Or not.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 21, 2009 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
And then Powe breaks his damn wrist.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 21, 2009 12:36 AM EST reply actions
Not exactly what I wanted as a parting thought. Oh great.
by DragonGirl0583 on Nov 21, 2009 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
Look at it this way...
… he’ll have fresh legs at least.
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See yall tomorrow.
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