Phantom Offsides Call Freezes Flyers in Desert
The Flyers had a ridiculously tough schedule this weekend, flying down to Phoenix from San Jose to play two games in less than 24 hours, dealing with a time zone change and a team who had the previous night off.
With those excuses in mind, the Flyers turned in a pretty lethargic performance in what should have been an entirely winnable game, never seeming to get out of first gear. In the end the Flyers had sleepwalked their way to a 3-1 loss, their third loss in four games.
The game turned halfway through the third period on a couple dubious calls that went in the Coyotes' favor. James van Riemsdyk was whistled for interference after barely colliding with a Coyote off a draw in the Flyers' offensive zone, putting the home team on the power play. Then on said power play, a puck that slipped offsides was not whistled, even though one linesman put up his arm. The Flyers froze in protest, and the Coyotes immediately scored. It was a bad break, for sure, but the Flyers handled it horribly.
Even though the Flyers didn't deserve to lose like that, they didn't deserve to win this one either. It was a listless, uninspired effort nearly from start to finish.
Some more assorted thoughts from Saturday's 3-1 loss:
- Ray Emery was fine for the most part, though he didn't react at all to the game-winning shot. But starting him made absolutely no sense whatsoever. After getting lit up for six by San Jose only hours earlier, it made no sense to put him right back in against Phoenix, when a confident and well-rested Brian Boucher was waiting in the wings.
- The one bright spot on the night for the Flyers was Scott Hartnell's beautiful breakaway goal in the second. The play was a beautiful example of cherry-picking at its best, and Kimmo Timonen deserves just as much credit for the goal due to his beautiful outlet pass.
- Blair Betts dislocated his shoulder by reaching for a puck? That's quite a lackluster way to lose a guy for a month.
- The Flyers defense on their own power play continues to look weak. For a team that only gave up one shorthanded goal last year, they've given up an incredible number of chances early on this season.
- Riley Cote might as well have not shown up for how little he was used by John Stevens. Cote took only five shifts the entire game, for a total of 2:03 of ice time. His final two shifts lasted :06 and :04, respectively.
- Phoenix's final goal was essentially the result of a "goaltending" call against Pronger, which was pretty ridiculous given that the Coyote forward nearest the puck did not have clear possession, nor was he completely in front of the net at the time of the debatable infraction.
- 24 shots against a goalie of Bryzgalov's caliber is just not enough to win a hockey game.
A day off Sunday, and then another tough tilt for the Flyers on Monday night in Denver against the Avalanche. It will be their fourth division leading opponent in their last six games.
This road trip stuff is not for the weak.
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1) The Offsides Call / Goal
That puck was not offsides. Its a terrible terrible terrible terrible job by the linesman of making the call, but it was the right call and he did everything he could to make it clear, emphatically waving and yelling that the play was good.
The puck popped up in the air and came down on the back end of the line. Popping up created the optical illusion that it was over the line (because you could see white ice between the puck and the blue). Aucoin uses white tape on his stick, which furthers the illusion. But its a great keep by Aucoin.
Two different images demonstrate this:
First, a screen cap of the freeze frame of the in game replay, this is the point when the puck is furthest out of the zone:

Second, Sportsnight brought a new angle which I took a photo of. This is also a freeze frame (not me trying to pause the DVR to get it, but CSN putting this image on the screen for a couple seconds):

The problem was that Richards, Captain of the team, stopped playing so he could argue, drifted out of position, and never got back to his position which is where the goal was scored from.


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2) Emery Overcommitting
For the last of screen cap theater, Ray Emery’s positioning. Early in the season there was talk about him not coming out of the net to cut down the angle. He made that correction. But last night and tonight goals were scored because he overcommitted to a cross ice pass.
I didn’t post this last night because there isn’t a good angle in the online highlights, but you can sort of see that he’s caught too far to the top side of the picture. Most of his body is out of the crease. He did this same thing, though to a lesser degree, on the shorthanded goal of the same variety in San Jose.

Now, here’s him doing an excellent job staying in control when the puck comes across the ice in the first period tonight. It was really hard to pick out watching the game, but after a bunch of replays I saw the play. Upshall cuts back against Emery’s movement, and because Emery doesn’t go flying across the crease, his trail leg is in position to rob Upshall:

Different story on the game winner, though:

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3) Game Killing Mistakes
Laperriere makes the same mistake Powe made last night not getting the puck deep. Its a less atrocious turnover (Lappy had a pass intercepted while Powe got caught from behind and stripped clean) but a bigger mental mistake since Laperriere’s came on the PK.
JVR with two awful mental mistakes in the third period. He takes the offensive zone interference penalty which led to the game winning goal. Then he goes offsides on the PP as Briere is easily carrying the puck into the zone.
Bartulis in the first panicked with the puck instead of making a smart play, throwing it from the corner up the boards into two Coyotes and turning it over. A shift or two later, he panicked with a puck Emery left behind the net and took a delay of game by throwing it out of play. The puck may have been on its edge when he got there, but it wasn’t the smartest play. He’s a hell of a lot steadier than Syvret back there, but he’s making some of the same mistakes, albeit less frequently. He’s a long way away from being confidence inspiring.
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4) Blair Betts Should Just Retire
The million dollar question was whether Blair Betts has separated or dislocated his shoulder. I’ll let the Mayo Clinic tell the difference:
A dislocated shoulder is an injury in which your upper arm bone pops out of the cup-shaped socket that’s part of your shoulder blade. A dislocated shoulder is a more extensive injury than a separated shoulder, which involves damage to ligaments of the joint where the top of your shoulder blade meets the end of your collarbone.
According to the Flyers website:
Flyers center Blair Betts will miss approximately four weeks after suffering a dislocated right shoulder during Philadelphia’s 3-1 loss in Phoenix on Saturday night. Betts tried to jump up off of the ice to glove an airborne puck when he got hurt, and immediately went to the locker room with his right arm limp in the first period.
It is the same injury that forced him to miss seven games earlier in the year.
He’s D-O-N-E done.
A dislocated shoulder just keeps getting easier and easier to do. (Think Mel Gibson in Lethal Weapon.) I’ve had clients with chronic shoulder problems who will dislocate it just by getting out of a chair. He dislocated his shoulder just by jumping and reaching over his head. They absolutely cannot rely on him to be be physically fit. They have got to treat this as if Betts’ career is over and replace him. Any games they get out of him is a bonus.
by MarioD on Nov 22, 2009 4:21 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
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I just got done watching the game — didn’t have cable last night. Richards is completely to blame for that goal.
I can understand the confusion on the play. One linesman said it was off, the other didn’t. But none of the Flyers stopped playing except for Richards, who raised his arm in protest. Richards was facing the play and the only official he could’ve seen was the one who said the puck was in the zone, so why the hell did he stop? Regardless, there was never any whistle, and you play to the whistle. No excuses. As Mario pointed out, Richards’ protest caused him to leave his spot, which led to the goal.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 22, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who should replace him, though?
I see your point and I’m not disagreeing with you. But who is out there that we can fit under the cap? Or do we just wait for everyone to get better and take it from there?
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
by mikefive on Nov 22, 2009 6:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
1. It doesn’t matter if the call was correct or incorrect, its the delay and the confusion that caused the goal. Its like an infield fly in baseball. If the bases are loaded with no outs and there is a weak pop up to the pitcher, and the umpires start to signal infield fly by running out and putting their fists up- the base runners will run back to the bags before hearing the “infield fly call.” This makes it very easy for the pitcher to let the ball drop, throw home, then to third then to second for a triple play. Mario, I know your going to say my example is like comparing apples to oranges but think about it. Richie was looking exactly at the play, and saw the confusion of the linesman. Had he not have seen hit he would have kept his positioning, once the point man saw the opening between Richie and the slot, he attacked it. It is the referee’s job to stay out of the box score and the fact that you even have to defend him means that he didn’t do his job.
2. Emery didn’t have a great weekend, I’ll give you that but two west coast games in 24 hours he’s aloud to play sub par. Did he lose the games for us? No. Could he have played better? Yes.
3. Your number three is called game killing mistakes. Last time I checked going offsides is not a game killing mistake, and that is what you have JVR pegged for.
4. Although dislocating your shoulder becomes easier to do with each time you do it, the rehab is also much quicker. Think of a rubber band that isn’t supposed to stretch to a certain point. Once it does stretch that far (but not snap) it is more likely to do it again, but it also gets relatively “used” to it. If it is the same injury, he won’t be out as long. He’s only 29 years old.
by orangeandblack20 on Nov 23, 2009 10:18 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Its like an infield fly in baseball.
It’s absolutely NOTHING like an infield fly. In your situation, the runner’s and fielders’ actions are determined by the difference in calls.
In this situation, the two possibilities were a stoppage in play, or play continues. The only logical action to take is to continue playing as if the puck is onside. There are four possible outcomes, total:
1) Continue playing but play is blown dead. No negative effects.
2) Continue playing and the play is not blown dead. The Flyers are in position to continue. No negative effects.
3) Stop playing and the play is blown dead. No negative effects.
4) Stop playing and the play is not blown dead. Game winning goal is scored against you.
You cannot be negatively impacted by continuing to play.
Now, the comparison you meant to make in baseball is that it’s like a batter hitting a ball that may go foul. And the proper thing to do in that situation is put your head down and run until you hear the umpire call it foul.
Although dislocating your shoulder becomes easier to do with each time you do it, the rehab is also much quicker.
Purely based on the fact that Betts was out 3-4 weeks last month and 4-6 weeks this time I’d say you’re incorrect.
by MarioD on Nov 23, 2009 11:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yes in baseball that is true but in ice hockey it is a little different you are on ice and being on ice you will continue to drift if you don’t actively skate the other way so Richards and everyone else saw the call was delayed and continued to drift in the direction they were moving assuming the offsides was going to be called and as a result were out of position when play resumed
I agree there that in a perfect world you have to play through the whistles but we are talking about human hockey players not robots and humans will make mistakes and they got caught watching the ref make or not make a call
Also since you are so big on cause and effect if the ref didn’t screw up the call by hesitating then the guys wouldn’t have also delayed and the goal would not have been scored the blame lies with the linesman he was made the 1st mistake
by chrislanci on Nov 23, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
over-react much
Never in the history of professional sports has a none baseball pitcher been forced to retire under the age of 40 because of chronic shoulder problems. Calm done about Betts injury. Concussions and horrible knee injuries end careers (or used to anyway), should problems do not.
by chrislanci on Nov 23, 2009 11:03 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’ve asked you very nicely to stop replying to me. I don’t have the time to waste to explain everything in tiny words to you.
by MarioD on Nov 23, 2009 11:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you don’t have to respond and as you can see that was not a reply like this is but since you love stats so much find me a hockey player who retired in last 15 years because of a dislocated shoulder it is not like Betts is a 40 goal scorer who will lose his shot because of the injury he will be fine just like he was after the last injury
by chrislanci on Nov 23, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Take your own terribly misguided advice: http://www.broadstreethockey.com/2009/11/4/1114518/boycott
by MarioD on Nov 23, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Emery's play
Despite the loss Emery had nothing to with it we did only net 1 goal and 2-1 losses do not get blamed on the goalie. I wish the team would have responded better to getting screwed by the refs I even think Emery froze on the play as he was slow to get into position to the pass.
Why the hell are there two linesman making calls at the same line, seems like that would led to lots of confusion? Is that standard on PPs I don’t recall seeing that before?
by chrislanci on Nov 23, 2009 11:08 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

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