Karma Catches Ovechkin Before Wheel of Justice Can

Alexander Ovechkin was ejected from yet another game for yet another dangerous hit. This time he blatantly kneed Carolina D-man Tim Gleason (video here).

Fortunately, Ovechkin appears to have blown out his own knee instead of Gleason's. The NHL gets to take a big stance and suspend Ovechkin from games he'll be unhealthy to play in anyhow.

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Yeah, that pretty much says it all.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 1, 2009 8:58 AM EST reply actions

Yep, even Caps fans can’t defend it.

It’s all a shame really. There’s no reason for anybody, let alone a guy with his talent, to play that way.

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by Travis Hughes on Dec 1, 2009 9:17 AM EST up reply actions

NHL has to ding him for this one. 3-5 games, if I’m Colin Campbell. Ovechkin has been too reckless as of late.

by red army line on Dec 1, 2009 9:19 AM EST up reply actions

There's also no way to defend this

Fortunately, Ovechkin appears to have blown out his own knee

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by Rob Parker on Dec 1, 2009 12:37 PM EST up reply actions

But I’m sure he’ll try…

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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 1, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions

Very few knee to knee hits occur without an injury to one party. Its fortunate, in this case, that the injury was to the hitter.

Like thats really hard to grasp…

by MarioD on Dec 1, 2009 2:16 PM EST up reply actions

Oh, right, because you took it completely out of context. Gee golly, I wonder if the next three words provide any context whatsoever…

Fortunately, Ovechkin appears to have blown out his own knee instead of Gleason’s.

OH WOW, LOOK AT THAT!

by MarioD on Dec 1, 2009 2:17 PM EST up reply actions

No. It’s never ok to say it’s fortunate that a player was injured. I don’t care if you’d rather AO be injured than Gleason, that’s just not classy. The human response would be “hopefully neither party is injured severely.” And sorry to ruin your glee, but AO isn’t hurt that bad. It’s not blown out and they let him on the ice today (albeit briefly) so it’s not as bad as you hoped. And contrary to your assertions, knee on knee hits happen regularly without any serious injury. Most of the time it’s a Charlie horse or a tweak. Not a guy getting carried off without being able to put weight on his leg.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 1, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions

Are there a lot of narcotics on Ovechkins’ balls? You’re clearly not of sound mind.

Since I wrote about it after the injury was known, it would be pretty fucking stupid to say “Hey! Let’s hope no one got hurt even though both guys got carried off the ice!”

Knee on knee hits do not “regularly occur”, let alone “regularly occur without injury”. You’re the only one using the word “serious” because the only way your blatantly homer argument has a leg to stand on is by strawmanning my argument. (You know, like by quoting me completely out of context.)

by MarioD on Dec 1, 2009 3:46 PM EST up reply actions

Are there a lot of narcotics on Ovechkins’ balls?

This is your debate strategy? This is how you combat claims that you are classless? Then I’ve already been proven right.

But for shits and giggles, you actually wrote that before the injury was known. You ~~speculated~~ hoped that AO blew his knee out. That’s not what happened. You, as the smartest hockey fan in the blogosphere, surely know that injuries sometimes look worse than they first appear. Would it be silly to say “let’s hope David Booth isn’t seriously hurt” even though you knew it looked bad? Of course not. It’s called human concern for the health of another individual.

I’m not sure what homer argument you’re talking about. If you bothered leaving BSH you’d see that pretty much all the Caps fans at Japers’ Rink, myself included, think a suspension is warranted. (Let’s not even mention that if you brought this weak shit anywhere else you’d get eaten alive.) All I did was call you classless for dripping with joy at AO’s potential injury. And I’ll stand by that assertion while I patiently await for anyone else here to demonstrate that same emotion or tell me I’m wrong.

And yeah, knee on knee hits happen more commonly than you’re acknowledging. Matt Cooke has had 3 I can remember in the last 6 months of hockey and those guys didn’t suffer serious injuries. They actually usually look worse than they are.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 1, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions

I agree with you. I don’t think its right to wish injury upon anybody, regardless of the fact that Ovechkin is now a repeat offender with this kind of stuff.

I will say, though, that I’ve played hockey and I’ve been involved in a knee-on-knee hit. A guy hit me in a similar fashion — he stuck out his leg and caught me in the neutral zone. We were both fine luckily, but I was furious because I know how dangerous it can be. I have to admit that I don’t think I would have been upset in the slightest bit if he was injured. It’s just flat out reckless play and there’s no reason for it. I’m not saying I wanted the guy to get hurt and I was glad he wasn’t.

I know it’s kind of a confusing point I’m making, but all I’m trying to say is it’s a different situation when you’re personally involved.

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by Travis Hughes on Dec 1, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions

I understand the point you’re making, and I’ve done some vicious things on the ice. But being in the heat of the moment with a guy that you are battling against (and cheap shotted you) and wanting that SOB to feel pain is entirely different from hoping a guy blew his knee out on a hit that had nothing to do with your team. AO, to my knowledge, has never hit any Flyer like this. There’s no reason a Flyer fan should be lobbing in injury wishes from the peanut gallery. If you check Japers’ Rink I expended a bunch of comments about how classless the CAR fans were for booing AO as he left the ice, and IMO this is worse.

Darcy Tucker is one of the dirtiest guys in the league, but I wasn’t throwing out FanShots about how he finally got what was coming when he got injured. AO got suspended, that’s what he had coming. Not a destroyed knee.

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by Rob Parker on Dec 1, 2009 4:47 PM EST up reply actions

But for shits and giggles, you actually wrote that before the injury was known.

What on earth are you talking about? I made this post at 11pm last night, well after he was carried off the ice. It’s just gibberish

Would it be silly to say "let’s hope David Booth isn’t seriously hurt"

At 11pm that night? Yes, since he had been wheeled off on a stretcher and taken to the hospital at that time.

If you bothered leaving BSH

I don’t feel the need to run around the blogosphere defending the players of my time against those big meanies on the internet.

All I did was call you classless for dripping with joy at AO’s potential injury.

Cheap shot artist gets injured taking a cheap shot. Yeah, he deserves a real well of sympathy.

And yeah, knee on knee hits happen more commonly than you’re acknowledging. Matt Cooke has had 3 I can remember in the last 6 months of hockey and those guys didn’t suffer serious injuries.

So you’ve taken the most extreme example you can think of, which is 3 in six months. Guess what? Ovechkin has two knee on knee hits and a slew foot in the last six months. Not to mention a host of other dirty plays.

Regardless, there’s maybe one violent knee on knee hit a week in the NHL. The most recent (before Oveckin’s) was Laraque which sidelined Kronwall for two months.

by MarioD on Dec 1, 2009 6:33 PM EST up reply actions

mario, seriously, it’s not that hard.

“fortunately, gleason isn’t injured.” corrected.

i can’t believe someone needed to explain this to you.

by Natty Bumppo on Dec 1, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions

Use more verbs.

by MarioD on Dec 3, 2009 9:36 AM EST up reply actions

I think I missed something with this.

by Mike B on D on Dec 1, 2009 2:30 PM EST up reply actions

Has the league gotten worse in terms of dirty play since the lock-out? I believe so, keep making it hard for the players to police themselves and suspension debates and analysis of high hits and intent to injury will continue to dominate hockey talk. It seems all we talked about over the last two weeks is dirty hits, suspensions and injuries. Let them fight under 5 minutes to hold players accountable, remove the instigator all together, don’t call the high stick when a guy brings his stick up to defend his head against a charging checker and get rid of the trapezoid so the goalie can protect his D-man I rather have an half a goal less per game than lose a player for a season or more due to a serious head injury. The NHLPA should be outraged, more and more guys are getting seriously hurt and every rule change they add is making it worse. The game would be better and the players would be able to play more games.

by chrislanci on Dec 2, 2009 2:39 PM EST reply actions

Agreed

That’s what worries me about these head shot rules they want to put into place. You just know it’s going to make things worse, not better. They are listening too much to ignorant fans who don’t understand the game who say “you have to remove the fighting” from the game. Fighting is what keeps the players honest.

by doubleh on Dec 2, 2009 7:14 PM EST up reply actions

Definitely agree with both of you. Nothing says “don’t do that” like a good punch in the face. If guys like Matt Cooke and Steve Ott could get forced to fight every time they went at someone’s knees this stuff would be a lot less frequent. Or games would be more entertaining. Either way…

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by Rob Parker on Dec 2, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions

The games would become a lot more interesting for a little bit, THEN the cheap shots would drop off.

It would be interesting to see how effective a player like Sean Avery would be in an NHL where you could fight like the good ol’ days. Pull him aside and give him the old Craig Berube treatment: “If you don’t knock it off, I’m not going to go after you. I’m going to go after Gaborik.” Then after that, someone on your team gets to fight old Donald Brashear and MAYBE Avery if he has a shred of respect for his teammates. But I bet that if the rules were like that, guys like Avery would have to tone it down some.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Dec 3, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions

Exactly, but is that a bad thing? I don’t see how it helps the NHL for Steve Ott to low bridge guys and then turtle and draw a PP for his own team(!). Ridiculous. (OT, I think it’s complete bush league to throw a “hip check” skating forward. Like the ones Ott throws and Darcy Tucker on Mike Pecca. If you are skating forward, use your shoulder. Hip checks are reserved for skating in reverse.)

Listen to Ol' Hank Murphy and eat your damn onions.

by Rob Parker on Dec 3, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions

No, it’s a good thing. Guys like Ott and Avery drive me crazy with the stuff that they do. They’d be forced to man up if fighting were allowed more than it is now.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Dec 3, 2009 5:49 PM EST up reply actions