Now that were twelve games into the season, we are starting to see some scoring trends. I would love to see everyone's opinion on the trends that were starting to see. With that what do you guys think...

Simon Gagne (Already has 10 GP): Over/Under 27 Total Games Played

Danny Briere (Already has 10 GP as well with 7 points): Over/Under 60 GP and O/U 1 point a game

James van Riemsdyk (13 P in 10 GP): Over/Under 65 points

Danny Carcillo has played good so far (well way over my expectations), and has done a great job at being (sorry guys) a poor man's Scotty Upshall (even if it's only about .05 mil less). After leading the league in PIM for the past few years, he only has 21 in 12 games. Is there any way that he can keep his disiplined hockey up? Who will lead the Flyers in PIM: Danny Carcillo or anyone else (Richie has 23 and Lappy has 25)

It seems like for the past two years the duo of Carter and Richie have been around a PPG. Who will score more this year, the Captain or the defending NHL leading goal scorer (Ovechkin doesn't even count anymore- he's unreal)?

When we brought Pronger here we all though that he would make everyone around him better. We also knew when we brought Matt Carle to Philly he had a ton of potential. What we didn't know is that Pronger's ability would be the catalyst for Carle's potential and we would witness an explosion. In the 12 games they've played together Carle has 12 points and Pronger has 11. I have two questions here: First off, who will finish with more (this one is Pronger for -175, not a strait up bet because Prongs is obviously the favorite). Secondly, we know they wont both finish at a PPG, although it would be awesome, i think 120 combined points is reasonable: Over/Under 120

You know what your going to get with Scottie "The Bird Dog" Hartnell: around 25-30 goals and 55-65 points. If he plays all of the games (he has shown great durability as a Flyer) he's going to play well offensively no matter who he plays with. What I want to know is does he wind up as the league leader in minor penalties this year. The Flyers have preached dicipline this season and I guess there has been a slight improovment (a la Danny "The Hitman" Carcillo), but can Hartnell stay out of the box? O/U 130 PIM (159 two years ago, 143 last year, only 16 this year).

Kimmo's poor play early on has been a bit of a shocker but he's starting to turn it around. He's a minus-6 thus far: O/U plus-10 (He was plus-19 last year)

Bradon Coburn has been critisized most of this year, but he (as well as Kimmo above) has started to turn it around. With three goals in his last two games, he is starting to show his awesome slap shot. O/U 10 Goals (9 in '07, 7 in '08)

There was a lot put on the shoulders of young Claude Giroux to fill the scoring void left by Lupul and Knuble. He's played very well so far, but it hasn't nesesaraly translated into points on the stat sheet. Danny Briere said that he has better "pure playmaking ability" than himself, and I have to agree. The kid has great hands and amazing vision. O/U 40 assists (19 in 42 games last year, 5 in 12 games this year)?

I could go on all day picking stats apart for every Flyer, but I'll leave some of that to you guys. With no hockey yesterday, today, or tomorrow i figured that this post could make for some serious time killing in the dorm room if it gets hot. Feel free to post your own O/U or to answer mine. I'm very interested on what MarioD thinks. I hope this post wasn't too much, I'm just trying to create some discussion. GO PHILLIES! (and of course Flyers)