Game 29, Preview and Open Thread: Keep On Winnin', Ottawa Senators at Philadelphia Flyers
by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 6:08 PM EST
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Ottawa Senators at Philadelphia Flyers, Dec 10, 2009 7:00 PM EST
#7 Ottawa Senators (14-11-4, 32 pts) at #11 Philadelphia Flyers (14-13-1, 29 pts)
Wachovia Center - 7:00 PM EST - Philadelphia, PA
TV: CSN Philly HD, TSN 2 HD
Radio: 610 WIP, XM 205
This is the open game thread.
Behind Enemy Lines: Silver Seven
When the Philadelphia Flyers beat the Ottawa Senators a little under a month ago, it was their fifth straight win. Since then, the Flyers have won just four games, but they'll try to start another win streak tonight as the host that team from that other Nation's Capital.
That night in November, the Flyers dictated the pace throughout, outworking the Sens on their way to a decisive 5-1 victory. It's clear that since then, those attributes have been much less than a certainty, but with their new coach trying to beat an identity defined by hard work and discipline into his team, tonight is a good night to continue on with that theme.
The hard work part was pretty evident against the Isles on Tuesday night, and they even showed it against Montreal on Monday. The discipline part, on the other hand, has been a different story, and in one stretch of the second period against New York, the wheels came off that bus. It allowed Tavares and Company to get back in to an otherwise lopsided game and, more often than not, that will come back to bite a team in the ass.
Luckily, it didn't hurt the Flyers on Tuesday, but Peter Laviolette certainly took notice, skating his team hard at Wednesday's practice. Let's hope they got the message and that we don't see a similar occurrence tonight. Dan Carcillo is still out of the lineup, helping the disciplined cause, of course.
Another major theme the Flyers must carry over from Tuesday night's win lies with the top two lines. They did the goal scoring against the Islanders, and they'll have to do continue to do that throughout the season. If Arron Asham and Ian Laperriere, no offense to those guys, are the best players on the ice for the Flyers throughout the rest of the season, this team will go nowhere.
Meanwhile, Ottawa comes in with a whole host of their own issues. They've lost five of their last six and have been called out publicly by the general manager and their owner. Some of their top scorers, notably Jason Spezza and Alexei Kovalev, aren't scoring. Their best defenseman is probably Filip Kuba, which goes to show you how good they are on defense. They have a goals for/against differential of minus-7. And their starting goaltender is out of the lineup because his own teammate hit him in the head with a puck while he was on the bench during a game.
Still, the Senators are in a playoff position, much more than the Flyers can say right now. They also have Daniel Alfredsson, Mike Fisher, and Milan Michalek, who have all been very successful with the putting the puck in the net thing so far this season.
Watch out for Jarkko Ruutu tonight if you're heading down to the Center. He's a dirty SOB.
After the jump, Flyers line combinations, questions to answer, this evening's starting goaltenders, and of course, our in-game open thread.
Flyers Line Combinations - no changes from Tuesday
Hartnell - Richards - Giroux
JVR - Carter - Briere
Laperriere - Pyorala - Asham
Nodl - Kalinski - Laliberte
Starting Goaltenders - tale of two Brian's
Questions To Answer
- Can the Flyers keep themselves out of the penalty box for prolonged stretches tonight?
- Will the power play sustain the success they had on Tuesday night?
- Does the top line continue its sexy-looking play?
- Can Boucher keep up his hot play?
- How successful are the Flyers in keeping the Sens big guns off the score sheet?
- Does Jarkko Ruutu kill a guy?
Tonight's game will be broadcast locally on CSN Philly, nationally across Canada on TSN 2, and locally on radio on 610 WIP. As always, join us here for the conversation, and LET'S GO FLYERS!
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I’m a Sens fan.
Does that still entitle me to brotherly love?
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haha, you realize the Sens are still paying Emery through 2012?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
…he was part of the team that made it to the Stanley Cup Finals?
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ba dum chhh
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
I jokingly went over to Silver Seven and a few readers jumped down my throat and flagged my comment. We even had your boy on our radio show! Harsh.
In Philly, I think our brotherly love can be summed up in two schools of thought. And of course, it revolves around cheesesteaks. At Geno’s, there’s a sign that says “This Is America, Speak English When Ordering.” At another place on South Street, there’s a place that says “Order In Whatever Language You Like. We’ll Serve You With Brotherly Love.”
So uh, none of that French crap, you Canuck…
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
Before the Flyers won the Cup...
… sportswriters used to say that back-to-back days off for a Philly team was “a winning streak.” That’s how bad the teams were.
So we won, what, 4 straight before playing Vancouver last week?
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Darn
No studio time for me tonight. I guess that means I have to watch the game.
I won’t comment on the game thread though. I’m pretty sure I’m bad luck when I do that.
Afterward, I’ll be able to comment without saying “I didn’t see this but…”
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
I still haven’t gotten used to the mustache-less JJ. So many years of the stache … it just doesn’t go away easily.
It’s bizarre, isn’t it?
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
Is it blasphemy if I say I’m annoyed by Dancing Guy?
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He’s on Twitter and his feed is full of some of the most self serving BS I’ve ever seen. He dances the same old crappy dances at Flyers games. He’s not nearly as big a deal as he apparently thinks he is. Needless to say, I’m annoyed.
twitter.com/shawnyshawnyh
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 7:11 PM EST up reply actions
Woah, CSN broadcast is everywhere tonight. Three different CSN affiliates around the country and on TSN in Canada.
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Everybody wants to see this newfound upper lip.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 10, 2009 7:12 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think that toppling of Boucher should be a penalty, but it should have been called the way they call it these days.
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Boosh should eff a guy up for that.
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BOOOOOOOOOOSH!
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Hell of a save by Boucher on the Spezza breakaway.
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I missed the start of the breakaway. Way too preoccupied tonight so far.
I’ll start paying attention.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
To me, it looked like Carle just lost track of his guy. But again, I wasn’t paying too much attention either.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
I missed the penalty… what happened?
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What an awesome delayed penalty hold there
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I didn’t even bother looking. I don’t like the black nameplate anyway.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
No 2000 flashback makes me happy…
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Really? Even that AWESOME save?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
He’s not really having a good year either. But he’s cheap. I wonder what it would take to get him.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
He’s French. It’s a done deal.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
Which is ridiculous. He’s got a career GAA of 2.80, career S% of .913, has never played more than 34 games in a season, and is a pending RFA. Plus, he’s a backup.
They may get a “future top 6 forward”, but I don’t see them getting Gagne, Giroux, JVR, or anyone better from another team.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions
Which is ridiculous. He’s got a career GAA of 2.80, career S% of .913, has never played more than 34 games in a season, and is a pending RFA. Plus, he’s a backup.
They may get a “future top 6 forward”, but I don’t see them getting Gagne, Giroux, JVR, or anyone better from another team.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
Super long two-man. At least one, please.
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Elliott held his ground real well there. Can’t blame the Flyers on that one.
Great puck movement.
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Sucks. Still not a bad PP, though.
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That’s a huge kill for the Sens.
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Yeah, those are the kinds of kills that give you all kinds of jump.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone else not having new comments pop up automatically?
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Wasn’t working and I refreshed and it did.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
Apparently JJ lost his glasses and is wearing prescription sunglasses calling the game tonight.
I didn’t even know he wore glasses.
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Internationally, too.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty solid looking period thus far.
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Pretty boring period so far. The last Ottawa game dragged on like this too, IIRC. We kicked ass in that one though, so it was better.
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It certainly did.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
oh no-dl!
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Horrible pass from Laliberte.
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how we looking on a scale of District 5 to Iceland?
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 10, 2009 7:39 PM EST reply actions
Eden Hall varsity?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
i guess it’s better than the olympic team from Trinidad and Tobago right?
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 10, 2009 7:41 PM EST up reply actions
haha, yes it is.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 7:41 PM EST up reply actions
still hard to believe that the German Juniors team upset Iceland
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 10, 2009 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
I was thinking JV, but sure.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 7:41 PM EST up reply actions
I’d say they played like EH JV against Montreal, but I almost did say JV
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
The Varsity totally would’ve put one by Elliott on that two-man.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
theyre bigger, faster, and have more facial hair?
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 10, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
What an awesome Coatesy’s Corner intro.
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Agreed.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions
I like how they’re just standing in the Voorhees Gear Zone.
“Hey, where should we shoot?”
“Eh, let’s just go stand in the store. The pads will make us look cool.”
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
lol, i was thinking the same thing.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
Man, people on Twitter are really pissing me off tonight.
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Oh?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
if you can wade through the nonsense of people reporting what immediately crosses their brain…sure. I’ve just never been a fan of impulsive writing, no matter how much my writing seems like it
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 10, 2009 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
All depends on who you follow. If people post too much BS, un-follow them.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
Just a lot of stupidity, that’s all.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
Man, the site is dragging right now. Sorry folks. I notified support so if you’re having issues, it should be fixed soon.
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That might be a goal. I’d bet it’s in, but you can’t see it.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 8:13 PM EST reply actions
haha, she must have seen something interesting on the back of his head.
P.S. Love having a DVR
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
As we discussed on the Radio Show, it’s good to see our best line tonight is in fact our top line.
But right as I type that, Carter takes a bad penalty. (Weak, but still)
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 8:23 PM EST reply actions
The site is back. Rejoice.
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Tell me aboot it.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
Thank god. These comments not updating was driving me nuts.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 10, 2009 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
Some sort of outage across the network. The tech team ran back to the offices like Batman to the Batmobile, or something.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
Also, I could watch this Winter Classic commercial forever.
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Agreed. I think the NHL one is better, but the NBC one has some Bob Costas awesomeness, so yeah.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
Emery and Gagne should take a page from European soccer players and go get this…err…unconventional injury treatment.
I’ve heard that it’s really good for you. People eat it in some places. Disgusting, I know. But it makes sense… chock full of nutrients.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
Question:
do Flyers fans also think that this game has been pretty wretched so far?
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Terribly boring.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
Okay, good. We called the game against New Jersey boring and the fans were livid with us, so I figured I’d double check and make sure it wasn’t some sort of biased Senators opinion.
Glad to see Sens and Flyers fans can agree on something.
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Everybody knows the Devils are boooring.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
Missing my Steelers tonight. Gotta hear all those Iggle fans talk trash. Like they’ve won 6 super bowls …
Just told by Replay Booth that the disputed play – Elliott completely in the net and no puck sighted never went to review. FLyers robbed
Remember when I said I was annoyed with people on Twitter tonight?
Partly directed at a certain someone, who you’ve lovingly quoted.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
Did I mention this was a dreadful game?
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
Have you sent “Tweets” (I hate Twitter) telling him to STFU and go back to the State’s Second City?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 8:57 PM EST up reply actions
I think I have officially decided I do not want him associated with the city in any way whatsoever.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
Oh Elliott you lucky SOB
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describe this type of boredom relating a movie
Ill go first:
Inglorious Basterds
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 10, 2009 8:55 PM EST reply actions
You didn’t like it?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
got exciting in parts, but I didn’t think it was Tarantino’s best. It wasn’t any Reservoir Dogs or Pulp Fiction like i was led to believe
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 10, 2009 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, it’s tough to repeat those.
I heard the whole movie was an exercise in “But I’m Quentin! Look how great I am!” Which, really, isn’t all that different from any of his other movies.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
in light of this resistance, I’ll offer another example:
Thin Red Line
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 10, 2009 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
I haven’t seen it yet, don’t give anything away
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t you dare!
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
It is so popular but I just don’t understand why. It was just so boring to me. Its got funny parts but otherwise it was so blah.
I think it’s brilliant
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
The first time I saw it, I was like “WTF.”
Haven’t seen it a second time…
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 10, 2009 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
it’s definitely one of those movies you need to see multiple times.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
We’ve definitely got some jump early on in the third.
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Most of these calls are pretty weak, but Lavi aint gonna be happy.
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As my favorite chant rains down on the ice…
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What the hell refs.
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lol, I bet you he turned this game off and is watching that game.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
That’s a hell of a feat from the press box.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
atdhe.net baby
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
Donna Stankiewicz is PRAYING for them to score here.
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“Every human grief consoled. In the order’ twas received. Please be patient, an authorized prayer technician will be with thee shortly.”
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
It’s not.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
Mother fucker.
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hrm, sounds like a goal for the sens
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 10, 2009 9:08 PM EST reply actions
Yeah, it was weak. Bounced through the crease and took a funny hop and in.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
That’s a typical goal for this game.
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Boosh must be so pissed off. He’s playing awesome and his team just can’t score for him game after game.
I’d be pretty furious.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
Can we play the Islanders every night?
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
I’m blaming you, Mike.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
I feel like the Richards line has fallen asleep again.
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Who?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
Keep on swingin Charlie, ya might give em a cold!
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 10, 2009 9:11 PM EST reply actions
Our third and fourth lines seem to be the best on the ice again. Not okay.
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Haha, I already commented earlier that the Carter line was the best. But in the third period…
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
What would we be saying...
… if we were up 1-0?
We haven’t finished offensively, but we haven’t played badly either.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
WTF was that Pronger??
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 9:12 PM EST reply actions
Nodl seriously needs to be seen as what he is – not an NHL player. Bring someone else up.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 9:13 PM EST reply actions
Agreed. It’s not like he ever showed much of anything, either. Not in the NHL, anyway
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
What do they have to lose, other than more games?
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I heard Bombay’s career is done. Took a bad check in the minor leagues in Minnesota and he tore an ACL the doctor is saying
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 10, 2009 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
Amen. Odd numbers between 12 and 16 on this roster need not be seen again.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 10, 2009 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
Another losing streak coming up for us, too.
I’d be very surprised if we beat NJ for a third straight time.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Hey, Auger helped us for once.
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dammit!
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
I win
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
Stephane Auger actually helped us??? He must have lost a contact or something.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 9:18 PM EST reply actions
This game has been boring. Like, soccer boring.
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I didn’t say I didn’t like it. It’s just boring.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 10, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
I like soccer, though
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
you lose!
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
On my end, I win, actually
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
tie?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
If you had said “MLS boring” I doubt you’d have gotten much of a backlash.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
We’re getting a team next year, we have to like it
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
It’s gotten me to follow MLS and soccer a good bit more than I have in the past. Planning to go to the home opener, actually.
Me too. I still think building a stadium is stupid, though. Just play at the Linc, like they’re gonna have to do for some games anyway.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
If CSN airs the games, I’ll probably watch. But I just can’t watch any MLS now.
I love watching the weekly hour of EPL highlights though.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
Go Blues!
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
People already resigning to a loss, but a losing streak at that?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 9:18 PM EST reply actions
Carkner is dead to me
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Holy crap that was dirty.
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Machinehead? Still?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 9:22 PM EST reply actions
yeah, but the song came out in, what, 98?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
haha, no. Bush – Machinehead.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 9:24 PM EST up reply actions
I can’t believe nobody jumped Carkner. I’m proud. Would’ve been dumb to even up the penalties.
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Pronger can’t get a shot off. Frustrating.
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Carter in front of the net? Not a good utilization of personnel.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 9:24 PM EST reply actions
God damnit Coburn
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Not an own goal, but definitely Coburn’s
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 9:24 PM EST reply actions
They played pretty well up until that power play, which was absolute feces.
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This season is really slipping away. I just feel that way, sorry.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
I’m starting to agree
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
The only hope...
… is to severely shake up the roster. But you have to be careful not to totally screw up the future in the process.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
so i been hearin good things bout this coburn guy
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 10, 2009 9:27 PM EST reply actions
haha, only you have the power to get his mojo back
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 9:29 PM EST up reply actions
I’m really glad I’m going to miss the game on Saturday night.
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Heh.
If/when Gagne gets healthy, I think JVR goes to the Phantoms for a little bit.
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because Nodl will score more?
I just have a hard time seeing a team that isn’t scoring send him down.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
He’s clearly hit a wall. Not THE wall, just A wall.
He probably needs more conditioning and experience. And if this is going to be a lost season, why try to rush his development?
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
I said...
IF this is going to be a lost season.
Meaning, if things get no better, why not send JVR down – unless he starts scoring again. You don’t want to mess with his confidence too much.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Maybe one of these guys needs to play elsewhere.
Just sayin’. Maybe the one who ISN’T the captain?
Carter played pretty well tonight, but we need two things right about now:
1. A scorer.
2. A defenseman who isn’t Braydon Coburn.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
The face of the girl with Richie is GREAT.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
do you think she’s saying in her mind
“I fuckin need you more than ever” with a pelvis thrust?
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 10, 2009 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know what she’s thinking per se, but there’s definite pelvic thrusting going on. Maybe a couple hours after this picture was taken, that is.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Or a couple minutes, taking into account that look on her face.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, but...
Richie needed to sober up a little bit I’m sure.
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Yep.
So is Carter’s.
I found this on a Kings fan site. It was posted in late October of this year.
And then they wonder why the coach gets fired.
Boys will be boys and all the rest of it, but every time I see one of these pictures I get pissed off because I usually seem to find them when the Flyers are playing badly.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
The season is not lost yet, we’re still hovering around 11th place and only need to get to 8th to get in the playoffs. Color me not worried
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 10, 2009 9:38 PM EST reply actions
it’s a long year friend, a long year with many a surprises down the road
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 10, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
Oh I am with ya. I am not saying its over; just not looking good. I am just left wondering what more they can do to get this team to win. There is just no explanation for this, that is the most frustrating part.
i chalk it up as early season shenanigans
if it’s april and we’re 20 pts out of 8th, then the sky is falling. Until that point, just stick on the train
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 10, 2009 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
true, but its not mid season yet. Fingers crossed
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 10, 2009 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
when you’re in a penguins market, it’s easy to be optimistic.
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 10, 2009 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
being a PSU student, there’s not much hockey to watch. It’s easy to be optimistic, because the Pens were crying their eyes out and then they won a championship.
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 10, 2009 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
Its is worse if the Flyers are sucking cuz now they have won the Cup and we are last in the division.
eh who cares, the steelers are about to lose to the 1-11 Browns
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 10, 2009 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
I care.
I want a Stanley Cup. And I’m really starting to think that I want new ownership for the Flyers and Sixers.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Really? I can understand that sentiment for the Sixers, but you don’t think Snider does everything he can to put a winning product on the ice for the Flyers?
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
I’m starting to think ownership really is the problem. Snyder seems to be a little too Al Davis about the Flyers and doesn’t give two shits about the Sixers (which is dreadfully obvious).
So long as Snider is alive, he will own his stake in the Flyers and therefore will be Chairman of Comcast-Spectacor. Comcast, on the other hand, makes way too much money to ever part with the Flyers. Especially considering not only do they own the Flyers, but now every TV station the Flyers are ever on, and the Wachovia Center. Between the two, the front office has never and likely will never have any trouble dishing out as many millions as they want.
The Sixers are a completely different story.
by Ben Feldman on Dec 10, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
It’s definitely a philosophical change that would be necessary, if anything. You can’t doubt Snider’s passion or Comcast’s willingness to put up the $$.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, I know it’s not going to change, but I do wonder sometimes. Perhaps it’s his unwillingness to change the philosophy of his teams (toughness, BSB type hockey) that hold Philly back. I don’t know.
He doesn’t want to change them because way too much of the fanbase depends on it. Too many of the approximately 19,519 fans at every Flyers home game care more about big hits or a fight than actually winning the game. And when the Flyers lose, they blame it on the refs, and mean it. If you even say you’re making a philosophical change, you’re probably upsetting a decent chunk of your paying fanbase.
I also sometimes wonder if we’re partially responsible. I mean, since about 1971, the team has never struggled to sell tickets. Virtually every game since then has been sold out or been just about sold out. TV ratings are among the best in the NHL. That’s close to 40 years where the only pressure on the front office is internal (not at all to understate the pressure from Snider alone). There’s never any real pressure from the outside. Sure, there are expectations, but you know what? I don’t think people in this city don’t care that much about the Flyers. And you know just as well as I do that even if the team goes on to lose every remaining game this season, the people who do care about the Flyers will have watched as many of those losses as we could, and we’ll make sure we can watch most, if not all, of the games next season. That’s not at all a bad thing, but I think over time that can make an organization complacent.
by Ben Feldman on Dec 10, 2009 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
If you’re interested in a team that wins the Cup during the regular season, go watch the Sharks.
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 10, 2009 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
Recap up...
… but I’ll keep the comments open since this discussion is still ongoing.
http://www.broadstreethockey.com/2009/12/10/1195471/another-game-another-shutout
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
When you lose to the Sens, that’s a sign that you pretty much suck. No offense to any Sens fan who may be lurking here.
Season = over.
Seeing as how Ottawa is behind us in G/G, GA/G, and 5-5 F/A, I don’t think they’re offended.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
Waiting on Boruk. But Grumpy Gramps laughed.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve decided to only refer to him as that from now on.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
I think I’m going to focus my Winter Classic reporting solely on the Flyers MSM guys. Up close and personal.
Much more entertaining than focusing on this team, anyway.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
Speaking, what’s with Frank?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 10, 2009 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, I’m not too sure actually. We should have him on the radio soon, I’m hoping.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 10, 2009 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
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