Betts is ready; Nodl and Backlund shipped back to Adirondack
Forward Andreas Nodl and goaltender Johan Backlund have been shipped back to the Adirondack Phantoms, according to several reports.
The news means the Michael Leighton is now the backup goaltender for the Flyers, and that Blair Betts is ready to return to the lineup tomorrow night against the Penguins at home.
Here's what Betts told the Flyers website about his return...
"I think I just have to be a little conscious of not using that arm to reach for pucks or anything like that. It’s a tough thing to do when you’re playing the game, but we’ll just see how things go."
It seems to me that not being able to reach for a puck with one arm means that you might as well still be injured, but I'm not a doctor so what do I know. Still, if Betts is playing hesitant and conscious of what he can't do on the ice, he may not be as effective as he can be and has been for the Flyers this season. As he said, we'll see how things go.
As for Leighton, we talked in depth about him yesterday. He hasn't been impressive in quite some time, but he can be a decent fill in for a team that will need a guy with NHL experience to step up and play a few games. Here's what Leighton told the Flyers website...
"The last couple of weeks in Carolina I didn’t really get much practice time in with three goalies. For me, personally, it wasn’t a good situation. I was not taking a lot of the practice and sitting out most of practice. I’d like to get a few practices under my belt and feel a little bit more comfortable, and the last two days I’ve gotten some good skates in so it’s just a matter of getting a few more practices in and feeling comfortable again."
We could see Leighton in action as early as this weekend against the Rangers. It's apparent that the organization clearly doesn't have the confidence in Backlund, who has never played an NHL game outside of preseason, even though the first-year North American pro has made strides in his game at the AHL level. This move backs up that theory.
With Nodl, this could be the nail in the coffin for his Flyer career. Coming out of college and even before then, Nodl was projected as a second-line forward, but in 48 NHL games stretched over the last two seasons, the once highly thought of player has not been as impressive as he was once thought to be, notching just one goal and four assists in those games. Other players, notably Jon Kalinski of late, have overshadowed him.
At the same time, there was a report from the Daily News this morning that said Nodl was seen "receiving treatment" in Boston, so he could be injured. If that's the case, it would explain Riley Cote's recent insertion into the lineup over Nodl, and it would also explain his demotion to the Phantoms. Still, though, it appears Nodl has fallen on the depth chart.
For a Phantoms perspective on this news, check out Tim McManus at the Glens Falls Post-Star.
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It seems to me that not being able to reach for a puck with one arm means that you’re still injured
Yes and no.
He’s not actually injured. The shoulder has healed itself to maximum recovery.
He’s talking about avoiding once again dislocating it, which he is now further predisposed to.
He’s not actually injured from a medical perspective, but he’s damaged goods.
by MarioD on Dec 16, 2009 3:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Right. From a hockey standpoint, you might as well just call him injured, then. If stretching your arm is going to re-injure you, what’s the point?
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 16, 2009 3:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
darn – was lookin to start johan against you in fantasy
by fitzy first on Dec 16, 2009 3:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Right, this is why the night of the last injury I said he should just retire right now.
But from a medical standpoint, he’s healthy. I just wanted to clarify that he isn’t being rushed back onto the ice or anything like that.
by MarioD on Dec 16, 2009 3:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s definitely a tough situation to be in…Betts probably realizes that he might need to retire, but he’ll see if there are limits he can play within where he doesn’t reinjure himself. If it changes completely how he’ll play the game, then, yeah, he needs to retire as MarioD says. But there might be a happy medium. It’s been a different team with him in the lineup, so I hope he is ok to go and able to stay healthy…
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by Moridin417 on Dec 16, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Solution to Betts' injury?
Robo-arm, a la Will Smith in I, Robot.
Problem solved.
by Phalange on Dec 17, 2009 11:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, good clairifcation. I edited the phrasing a little bit to avoid any confusion.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 16, 2009 3:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
How is he going to do on face offs if he can’t extend or put pressure on the shoulder. I wish him the best and looking forward to him in the line up but 80% isn’t going to make a difference with this mess so why end the career over it.
by M from Pdaddy on Dec 16, 2009 3:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
why end the career over it.
How do you not understand this?
by MarioD on Dec 16, 2009 3:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What is there that I am not understanding. Is he going to make the difference in this team turning around, NO. So why rush back from an injury if it might be what ends his career. I know we all are so tough behind our keyboards and thinking sew it up and get back in in their, show what a man you are, but if you were going to lose your livelihood over writing on this blog I am sure you would want to think twice about it. Are we taking about the same thing here?
by M from Pdaddy on Dec 16, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So why rush back from an injury if it might be what ends his career
Please just stop.
by MarioD on Dec 16, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The point is that he’s not still injured. Like was discussed above, he’s healed. But his shoulder is as such that 100% for him isn’t 100% for everyone else. While you may think he’s “80%”, that’s in comparison to most other NHLers, not to his own health. He’s as healthy as he can be, which is the problem.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 16, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
While Travis said this essentially was Nodl’s last chance, I’m wondering if what MarioD suggested before could become the case: Nodl is not at all who we thought he was, but he can be an effective 4th-liner who works on the PK. He certainly showed an ability to do that this year, so maybe instead of being a top-6 like was projected, he’s now shown a niche that could at least get him an NHL job somewhere.
Either way, I really hope the club has come to the conclusion that he isn’t the best player to call up, but rather someone who can fill a specific role if needed. Next time the team needs a scorer, Maroon or Legein should get the call. Next time they need a penalty killer, Nodl gets the call.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 16, 2009 3:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Did the guy not say he can’t reach for pucks or was that a misquote. That would assert he is not 100% whether that be any percent for anybody. I hope some day this guy doesn’t regret giving one more go when his arm is hanging off his body. So dramatic Mario. I love the highlighted phrases as to pound home the injustice of someone’s quotes. And quit whining about people running goalies.
by M from Pdaddy on Dec 16, 2009 3:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think it was not meant to mean what it sounded like. Im sure he can reach for pucks, he probably just meant that he has to be careful about it to not put himself in a position where while reaching for a puck he may be hit and reinjure the arm. I doubt that simply reaching for a puck will cause him to reinjure himself.
by bfrank27 on Dec 16, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No, it can. Link…
"He jumped up at the puck and ended up dislocating the same shoulder again," Holmgren said.
It was injured the last time on a non-contact play. He basically can’t extend his arm without worrying about dislocation, if I’m reading it correctly.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 16, 2009 3:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He basically can’t extend his arm
That’s never been 100% clarified. For sure, he can’t reach above the shoulder. The quote today is the first mention of extending the arm, previously it was all about not going vertical.
That may be correct, just saying it would be new information.
by MarioD on Dec 16, 2009 4:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hm, okay.
Either way, there’s a basic task on the ice that’s difficult for him to do without risk of injury. A concern.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 16, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Mario made his point quite clear, and Geoff reiterated it. Why you seem to be ignoring it is beyond me.
He’s 100 percent. His health is 100 percent. But at 100 percent health, he still cannot perform at a high level. That’s the point, here.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 16, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i had a shoulder injury that was similar, it seems, so i’ll relate what happened in my case. in open hockey one night, i was hit from behind near the boards by a friend jokingly when i caught an edge. my helmet didn’t catch square so my head was turned to the side and my shoulder caught the majority of the impact dislocating it. for the next few months, seemingly insignificant things would cause my shoulder to briefly dislocate. trying to set a volleyball, opening a door, etc. had it been more severe, it could have required surgery, however physical therapy was the option in my case. the doctor said the tendons and ligaments are stretched during that sort of injury, causing the shoulder to be become dislocated more easily until strength is built up again.
its about 15 years later now and certain positions still cause my shoulder to feel as though it could dislocate, but it hasn’t happened in some time. i am still conscious of the potential for reinjury, but i wouldn’t necessarily shy away from hockey because of it, though in my case, a previous injury to my collarbone affects my shoulder. when it reoccurs many times in a short span, it is something that is going to weigh on your mind. i didn’t have pain, so i didn’t particularly feel ‘injured’. had someone asked me about it at the time, i’d have likely given a similar answer to betts (assuming his injury was identical to mine, which may not entirely be the case).
by beatniche on Dec 16, 2009 3:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I think the biggest thing we can take from your story is that every individual situation is different.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 16, 2009 3:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
right, didn’t mean to imply that his case was identical (if that’s how it was taken), just that i had been through something similar before. his re-injuring the shoulder really made it sound eerily similar to mine.
by beatniche on Dec 16, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the doctor said the tendons and ligaments are stretched during that sort of injury
Right, and they don’t really tighten back up again.
It’s like putting a screw into dry-wall. The more times you remove and re-insert it, the more the hole strips.
by MarioD on Dec 16, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
with strength training (or surgery) it can be repaired for the most part, though you are right, the likelihood of re-injury of the shoulder will still be there. strength training will bolster the damaged tendons/ligaments and significantly reduce potential future injuries, but the risk is there.
by beatniche on Dec 16, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And in Betts’ case, we’re talking about the 6th or 7th serious dislocation already.
by MarioD on Dec 16, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And with that many serious dislocations, there could be hard tissue damage (read: bone wear from the ball-and-socket joint grinding) that further increases the tendency for more dislocations. Ultimately, only Betts can say whether he can play or not, but that’s going to be a concern for the rest of his life.
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by The Dark on Dec 16, 2009 4:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
im sure we’ll know if he can play tomorrow
by fitzy first on Dec 16, 2009 3:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nodl
Certainly an interesting player, wonder why he can’t find success. When he was #14 and was getting ice time early last season, I used to pull hard for him to get one in the net. He worked hard, was an impressive skater with size and seemed to love the forecheck. It took awhile but he finally got a tally or two.
He’s got the tools and talent, I think. He seems to lack patience with the puck and I believe that’s his weakest point. He’ll work pretty hard (I mean that guy is quick for his size), end up with the puck but will never take a look to set up a play or simply protect the puck to let the play come to him.
by stubborne on Dec 16, 2009 4:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
At the rookie game this year – he was a ringer – I was extremely impressed with him. It was the first time I got to see him live and everything you said was absolutely dead on this year. I even had hopes for him entering the season. He works really hard in the corners and did a great job against ECHL competition. But I thought the effort – and not necessarily the results – would translate this year, but it just wasn’t the case.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 16, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
speed and smarts can only get you so far, Nodl is a very smart player with great wheels but lacks the puck skills to be useful in the NHL, in college speed can be extremely lethal but in the NHL the gap between the slow and fast is much smaller he can’t just fly by NHL defensemen like he did in the NCAA, he can be a nice 4th line Defensive specialist but he doesn’t play physical enough for that role on most teams and as a winger he doesn’t bring the faceoff aspect to the table
by chrislanci on Dec 17, 2009 9:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a shame. I was really looking forward to seeing the goaltending prospect who Neil Little said is better than Gustavsson, and Homer’s compared to Niklas Backstrom. You gotta put up or shut up with an older guy like Backlund, and if the Flyers aren’t confident enough to start him in a season that’s quickly turning into a wasted one, they better start shutting up about him.
by Ben Feldman on Dec 16, 2009 6:28 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
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