Game 33, Preview and Open Thread: Battle of PA III, Philadelphia Flyers at Pittsburgh Penguins
by Travis Hughes on Dec 17, 2009 5:46 PM EST
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#4 Pittsburgh Penguins (23-10-1, 47 pts) at #11 Philadelphia Flyers (15-16-1, 31 pts)
Wachovia Center - 7:00 PM EDT - Philadelphia, PA
TV: CSN Philly HD, FSN Pittsburgh HD, Yahoo! Live Stream
Radio: 610 WIP, XM 206
This is the open game thread.
Behind Enemy Lines: Pensburgh
After an embarrassing effort Tuesday night against Pittsburgh in which the Flyers showed zero heart and zero guts, as Mike Richards said post game, the Penguins travel to Philadelphia for the second half of a home and home. Can the Flyers put together a solid game, please?
Who the hell knows at this point, but time is slipping away. Thanks to several other teams idling just as badly as the Flyers, our team only sits four points out of a playoff spot with several games in hand over 8th place Florida. Regardless, though, they need wins.
It really doesn't even matter that they're playing their biggest rival tonight. They can't beat seemingly anybody these days, so it doesn't matter if they're playing the defending champs or the Minnesota Wild. We can't even say that a win tonight would be a big boost at this point, considering we thought that on Monday night with a win against Boston before the team flopped the following night.
It's tough to know what to think about this team anymore, but it's clear patience is running thin all around. Can we just get a solid effort, guys?
Blair Betts will return to the lineup tonight. He's been out since November 21st, and while his return is good news for the struggling Flyers, he's not a savior. Betts, while technically 100 percent recovered from a dislocated shoulder, is still in danger of easily re-injuring himself. He'll give a boost to the penalty kill and he allows the Flyers to line up potent centers on each line, but how long will he be in the lineup before getting hurt again?
Hopefully it works out for Betts, because he does help the team (on the cheap, even), but it's everything but a certainty that he stays healthy. He could be reunited with Dan Carcillo -- arguably the Flyers best player on Tuesday -- and Ian Laperriere on the fourth line, or Peter Laviolette could opt to keep Carcillo with Richards and Carter.
After the jump, more line combo speculation, starting goaltenders, questions to answer, and our in-game discussion.
Flyers Line Combinations
With Betts' insertion into the lineup, it's unclear who will play where. As mentioned, Carcillo could be kept on the top line. Laviolette could re-unite the Carcillo-Betts-Lappy line, he could move Carter to center, move Giroux back to wing ... there are a number of options and nothing official as come out. We may have to wait until game time to see, but feel free to debate in the comments.
Starting Goaltenders
Questions To Answer
- 60 minute effort?
- Can Boosh turn in a solid performance?
- Can the Flyers beef up on the power play and the PK, which both didn't look too great on Tuesday?
- How does Dan Carcillo play, one game after being arguably the Flyers best player?
- How's Betts look in his first game back?
Tonight's game will be broadcast in the Delaware Valley on CSN Philly and 610 WIP, in enemy territory on FSN Pittsburgh, and everywhere else in America it'll be streaming on Yahoo! (link above). As always, join us here for the conversation (let's beat our open thread record from the other night), and LET'S GO FLYERS!
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All I got to say is...
Let’s go Flyers… I’m behind you guys. Keep your heads up.
Skip the Pitt, Move on down to Broad Street....
Philadelphia Flyers / Columbus Blue Jackets, 'nuff said.
Come On Boys! Go out there and bite someone if you have to, lets get this thing turned around tonight. This is me trying to be positive, we need some new positive energy around here it has been like a funeral and getting depressed. Hartnell puts two in tonight and with the two goal lead Carter puts on in as well. ;-) 3-2 Flyers.
Go out there and bite someone if you have to
hahaha, excellent. I laughed out loud. Thanks.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 17, 2009 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
Blair Betts
Betts, while technically 100 percent recovered from a dislocated shoulder, is still in danger of easily re-injuring himself. He’ll give a boost to the power play…
Is he going to do his Mike Knuble impression, or did you mean to write “Penalty Kill” there?
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
I did. What a jackass.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 17, 2009 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
Predictions
1. 60 minute effort?
Yes.
2. Can Boosh turn in a solid performance?
Yes.
3. Can the Flyers beef up on the power play and the PK, which both didn’t look too great on Tuesday?
Yes.
4. How does Dan Carcillo play, one game after being arguably the Flyers best player?
Fine, although I sure hope he isn’t their best player again.
5. How’s Betts look in his first game back?
Like Mike Knuble.
Kidding, kidding. Hopefully his arm doesn’t fall off.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Come on
You f’ers. If you’re going to lose tonight, at least do it with some dignity and keep it interesting for 60 minutes.
The way the questions to answer are written is starting to resemble the Flyers effort on the ice. Hopeful, but lacking effort; positive in a negative kind of way; and there is 5 of them, which is the maximum amount of Flyers that turn up to any given game.
That’s fair. I think the questions are, and always have been, a barometer of how the team is playing. I don’t intend for them to be that way, but it seems like you can learn more from them then’s intended.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 17, 2009 8:30 PM EST up reply actions
Baby all I want for Christmas…..is a Flyers win
Let’s go get ’em boys!
by Flyers and Terriers on Dec 17, 2009 6:54 PM EST reply actions
I want Carter to actually skate hard, and hit the net
Hartnell to stop taking bad penelties
Colburn,and Carle to….Im asking too much alredie
by Prometheus74 on Dec 17, 2009 6:58 PM EST up reply actions
Guess my timing sucks, but oh well. Hey there Flyers fans.
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Listening to the Penguins broadcasters you would think that (1) Carcillo took a two-handed swing at Crosby’s head; (2) since said two-handed swing the Penguins have scored 5 goals…
I really hate that I can’t watch the Flyers broadcast on Center Ice…
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it’s available for free btw on Yahoo too. Although I don’t know who’s on that one
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ah drag. Yeah I have a few readers from overseas too who can’t get it.
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Yes.
I have the video muted and the Flyers announcers on. There is a delay in the video but it is better then listening to those god awful excuses they have as commentators for the penguins
by Mitchell Green on Dec 17, 2009 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
To be honest it’s kinda unbearable even as a Pens fan. But prob not to the same degree it is for Flyers fans. As far as I’m concerned, it’s more like, “Dude, you’re not on the team anymore. Just broadcast the game.”
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Like before when the were criticising the Flyers for showing a hit, rather than Fleury making a good save.
yeah it’s a bit extreme at times. But that doesn’t bother me as much as it does you in that scenario I’m sure.
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I can’t take it. I refuse. I won’t even watch the games on FSN ever. Its that bad.
by Mitchell Green on Dec 17, 2009 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
Bernie Parent on the big screen here w/Red Cross. Bernie still has that distinguished white goatee and a full hair thanx to Dr. Pistone
What, is Panotch now selling ads for his Twitter feed?
What happened to Gagne again? Was it a result of his injury from olympic camp? Groin/leg?
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Is anyone else pissed off at these clickable NFL network ads on the sides? I think I’ve accidentally clicked them over 100 times in two days.
do you have your view set for the wide setting or the thin one?
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More money
For SBNation by clicking them aka more money in BSH’s pockets….I expect Xmas gifts.
I shrunk my window boarder and it dosent bother me any more
by Prometheus74 on Dec 17, 2009 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
I think its kinda sad that people from the country that the game is being played in has to watch the game in the same way I am.
What time is it for you? Do you ever sleep?
by Mitchell Green on Dec 17, 2009 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, wow, totally calculated that wrong. Most of my family lives in Sydney, AU so you’d think that I would actually have known that it is daytime for you hahaha
by Mitchell Green on Dec 17, 2009 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
So uh, I missed most of that period. But it looks like we’ve got a decent effort tonight, especially from Hartnell and Carter. Good signs.
Was Crosby’s dive as bad as I’m hearing?
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It wasn’t really a dive as much as an incredible embellishment on a high-stick. But it was bad. Coatesy and JJ both sounded really close to going off.
Alls I’m gonna say is if you get his in the face with a stick the natural reaction is to throw your head back. It’s not even something you think about doing. It just happens. Whether it was embellished or not is up to the viewer, but I’m just gonna throw that out there.
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That's what she said?
"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
Pecooooo time.
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GIROUX!
Pickin’ up the trash…
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Carcillo with the set up…. bizarre.
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For all his faults, he’s a hard worker, and those guys usually make good special teams players. It’s not like he has zero offensive touch, either. It makes sense in a weird sort of way.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 17, 2009 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
sometimes putting a chippy guy like that on a PP can work. Pens had it with Malone. They try from time to time with Cooke and Rupp. Dunno why but sometimes a mix like that is a solid move.
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Boosh get a piece of that one?
Stop em on this PK, boys
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No, it completely missed and hit the side of the net.
by Mitchell Green on Dec 17, 2009 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
Nice hard work in the offensive hand shorthanded. Leads to a penalty.
Awesome. Carter and Hartnell look great tonight.
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Yes.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 17, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
Endless train to the box.
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Way to not be Hartnell
I take back my earlier kudos.
Damnit Pronger
Unlucky, really.
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Can't handle
How bad this PK is, bad luck or not.
Got a nice pass on the tape from Pronger.
by Mitchell Green on Dec 17, 2009 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
Rangers scratched
Kotalik and Redden benched for tonites game. Maybe a wake call for Hartnell and other players taking dumbass penalties for us might help
I don’t know if we can afford to sit a guy right now.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 17, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
Redden is an expensive scratch. It’s hilarious, but also expensive.
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It’s the expensive part that makes it hilarious, though.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 17, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
Really? Weak call.
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I have the same tie that Craig Berube is wearing tonight.
It’s ugly.
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Nice chances there
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Man, we’re swarming around the net right now.
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TV or radio?
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 17, 2009 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
Anybody but Carcillo puts that puck in the net.
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I’m watching the game later (watching Yotes live), but Carter could’ve probably put it wide of the net…
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by Jordan Ellel on Dec 17, 2009 8:30 PM EST up reply actions
Really good question.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 17, 2009 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
Eight, we have five.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 17, 2009 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
Man, that took some focus by JVR to grab that puck and get that shot off like that.
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We had to stop play for that? Call me insensitive, but that’s ridiculous. He could’ve manned up and skated to the bench.
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Considering the Pens were in the offensive zone I would’ve liked it if he tried and the puck stayed alive down there
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And I’ve seen much worse things happen where they didn’t blow the whistle, such as Sami Kapanen not able to stand up and having to be pulled into the bench with a stick in the 04 playoffs.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 17, 2009 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
Yep, followed about 10 minutes later by JR knocking the Leafs out of the playoffs.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 17, 2009 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
I love how Penguins fans think we’re neanderthals but they forget how we gave Mario Lemieux a standing ovation when he returned. Brought the guy to tears.
Yep, we’re classless.
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Yes, but we booed Santa Claus
Apparently that trumps all.
"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
Guy ain’t even real.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 17, 2009 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
Real enough to throw snowballs at.
Just sayin’…
(I hope these comments are being read with the proper amount of sarcasm.)
"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
You make an excellent argument.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 17, 2009 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
If Crosby retires and comes back I doubt we will be as gracious again
by Prometheus74 on Dec 17, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
And that’s fine. He’s not Lemieux.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 17, 2009 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
No hes not.
Whats your thoughts on the League retiring 66
He is no Gretszky, so im not for it
by Prometheus74 on Dec 17, 2009 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think 99 should be either. If we retire the number of every great player, we look like the Canadiens. Eventually we’re gonna run out of numbers.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 17, 2009 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve always wondered – then what? Do you start assigning letters with it? Like, 99A. Or do you open it up to three digits. 999?
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Seriously, Montreal has to be running out of numbers. Right?
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 17, 2009 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
according to Wikipedia:
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 9, 10, 12 (then 12 again), 16 (and 16 again), 18, 19, 23, 29, 33, 99
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12 and 16 are retired TWICE?
That goes against the whole idea, doesnt it?
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 17, 2009 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
yes. Yes it does. I think it’s like, they retired the number from when the team originated and then did it again for the guy who wore it after him. it’s kinda a joke
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I’m kinda proud that the Flyers only have 4 numbers retired, to be honest.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 17, 2009 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
excluding Gretzky the Pens have two. 66 and 21. 21 was worn by this guy Michael Briere who played only one season with the team before dying in a car accident.
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For the same reason, I think we should retire Pelle Lindbergh.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 17, 2009 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
Yep.
I’m reading Bill Meltzer’s book about him right now. It’s unbelievably researched. Recommended. I’m going to write a review and hopefully interview him when I’m done.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 17, 2009 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
I think Mario is God, but a league-wide jersey # retirement is not necessary. Then you have to do it for Orr. Then Roy (or Brodeur or Sawchuk).
What brought this up? Just wondering. Pens broadcasters?
In Pittsburgh’s defense, a lot of places think that Philly fans are neanderthals.
I actually enjoy Phill fans. I have a bunch of friends there, and I like to visit them and tailgate for Pens/Flyers games. Philly fans are loud, rude, and obnoxious…..but at least they’re clever…..
….which is more than I can say for Caps’ fans.
They showed the clip during the intermission of the CSN broadcast, so I brought it up.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 17, 2009 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
Gotcha. Wasn’t being smart, just wondering what sparked the question.
I thought Philly fans loved that reputation?
We’re harsh and we’re intimidating, sure. But there’s an unfair perception out there that we lack class or that we’re a bunch of assholes.
It couldn’t be further from the truth.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 17, 2009 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
I actually recall a funny conversation in the restroom during the 1997 finals. A couple of Detroit fans were talking to a Flyers fan. The Flyers fan welcomed the Detroit fans and then said, “Wait, where are you from?” The guys answered “East Lansing.” The Flyers fan said, “Oh, okay. I hope you enjoy your time in Philadelphia. I also wanted to be sure you weren’t from South Philly and wearing those jerseys; otherwise I’d have to kick your asses!”
Laughter all around.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Haha, that’s great.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 17, 2009 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
I honestly can say, from having been to countless Pens/Flyers games in Philly, those are the sort of jokes that go underappreciated.
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I still chuckle at “I didn’t know Pens fans pee standing up” whenever taking a leak during intermission
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Caps/Flyers/Pens fans seem to be the ultimate "an enemy of my enemy is my ally for a day
by Prometheus74 on Dec 17, 2009 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
Haha that could be true, but I will always hate the Flyers more than the Caps. The Caps are the Penguins little brother. Sometimes they threaten a little, but they’re always little brother. The Flyers on the other hand…..
That’s how we felt about the Pens for years. Even still, a little bit.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 17, 2009 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
Oh I’m sure.
When I was really little, my dad once told me:
“Three things are certain: You will pay taxes. You will die. And the Flyers will beat the Pens in Philly.”
I literally didn’t think the Pens were allowed to win in Philly when I was 5 years-old.
I think we won every game in Philly between the teams from like 77 to 84, or maybe 74 to 87. Some ridiculous number like that.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 17, 2009 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
As outside factors
I’m not a fan of the Caps because their fans are awful and as fairweather as they get — but I don’t like them either way. The Pens fans are that way to some extent as well but not nearly to the same degree as the Caps.
I am going to preface this with the following: I do not have the stats to back this up, and I am too lazy to back it up. But….
The Pens take a lot of flack for only selling out after the lockout. That’s fair. I personally know a lot of bandwagoners in the ‘burgh. However, during the dark years (01-05), the Penguins had some of the highest TV ratings in the NHL each year. Pittsburgh is a very small city, and it is not the richest city. Obviously, people aren’t going to pay to watch a team as bad as the Pens were. I would love for someone to try to look this up, but I wouldn’t know where to start.
Another thing to keep in mind – Hockey is a fringe sport. Any city that has a team that is doing well is going to get called a bandwagon market (outside of the original 6 and some other teams like Philly). That’s just how it works.
Do I sometimes resent the bandwagon fans in the ’burgh that make it hard for me to get tickets? Absolutely. But I will kindly welcome any fan to the NHL anytime. I love when people realize how awesome hockey is.
I get why
Some of the attendance problems happened don’t get me wrong, but I do think in general there are a good amount of bandwagon fans in the burgh. I think it’s more pronounced with the Pens than the Steelers or Pirates for that matter — all things considered Pirates fans have been pretty loyal during the 17 years of losing (and I think they’ll finally benefit in a few years since I like what’s happening in Pirates nation finally).
But Caps fan, pure bandwagoners through and through (yes, obviously they do have some dedicated fans).
Yeah, I admitted there are bandwagon fans in Pittsburgh, no doubt. A lot of my friends that I grew up playing / loving hockey with look down on bandwagon fans, but I just can’t. I am excited that they gave something other than football a chance.
The Pens may not have the fanbase of any of the Original 6, the Flyers, ’Nucks, Flames, etc….but they are far from the realm of the Caps, ’Canes, Lightning, etc. It is a very small market, so losing seasons will always hit them hard. Philly can absorb losing seasons.
And the Pirates are one exception to the rule….you have to NOT support a franchise that is so poorly run and hope for change. But that’s a different story.
Pre-Huntington
I would agree with you. Now, the Pirates are finally getting things right, or at least giving themselves a chance to be right.
this one is better
http://channelsurfing.net/watch-nhl-3.html
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That’s weird. Yahoo is reliable, I watch games on there all the time.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 17, 2009 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
it’s really crappy. that’s why I jumped on the channel surfing one. I normally do the Yahoo thing too but it’s not cooperating tonight
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You’re not close enough to get the CSN broadcast?
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 17, 2009 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
I guess Malkin can take liberties with Hartnell. That’s fine.
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It’s gettin’ chippy. That’s what I like to see.
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Feed
anyone have live feed of the game ?
by EaglesFanatic80 on Dec 17, 2009 9:16 PM EST reply actions
Several links already in the thread here
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 17, 2009 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
Thank You
lost the feed on Yahoo…sorry!
by EaglesFanatic80 on Dec 17, 2009 9:19 PM EST reply actions
Look at Kimmo jumping in to the play. I dig it.
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Without a doubt. Nice change of pace.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 17, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
Wow
how does Hartnell miss the wide open net
by EaglesFanatic80 on Dec 17, 2009 9:23 PM EST reply actions
Hopped over his stick.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 17, 2009 9:24 PM EST up reply actions
Wow these Crybabies
this is disgusting…Richards laid off
by EaglesFanatic80 on Dec 17, 2009 9:29 PM EST reply actions
Lol he basically called Richards a dirty player
by EaglesFanatic80 on Dec 17, 2009 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
What version of Jeff Carter is this?
And how do I make sure this version comes to the rink every night?
Hey, a point!
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JOY TO THE WORLDDD
A friggin’ point, thank you Flyers.
Fleury’s kept em in it. He’s been great.
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Yeah
Both goaltenders came to play tonight.
Well this has been an intense game. This is what I expected Tuesday night
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PECOOOOOOO!
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Okay, never mind. Carcillo’s a dbag
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Carcillo pokes him, then gets hacked in the arm. Yeah, that’s equal
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CSN graphic is wrong, says 4-on-4
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Shootout Time
scary against the Pens
by EaglesFanatic80 on Dec 17, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
Hate this shootout BS. Should be a tie.
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i agree. I hate shootouts. Mostly cause the Flyers blow. Though Emery was actually pretty good at them.
I do not have much confidence in the outcome here
But, hey, maybe the Pens will lose for once in a shootout. And all things considered, lots of positives to take away from this game.
For example
Carter and Richards being awesome again.
Penguins 4-0 this season in shootouts. Fluery has only given up one 1 shootout goal.
by Mitchell Green on Dec 17, 2009 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
no wonder why they have such an amazing come from behind record it is easy when you know you want get called for anything FUCK THE NHL this a joke even when we are at home
Slips of Briere’s stick.
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Terrible camera angle
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Oh my god…let’s never let Boucher do that again…holy god….
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Ha
A sub for shootouts. When do you think something like that happens? I remember once I think it was two years ago when the Thrashers or Predators subbed their goalie for the shootout — only time I remember it happening.
Yeah, I think I remember it happening. I can’t imagine anyone doing worse than Boucher did tonight…
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by Jordan Ellel on Dec 17, 2009 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
Win or lose, the shootout is a joke. Even more so when we lose, though
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Great game, gents. Too bad it had to end in a shootout. The Flyers looked very good. Maybe they are turning a corner? (Hope not)
Definitely some positives. See you next time.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 17, 2009 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
Good game. Boucher just looked really silly in the shootout though. See you guys again in January
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Boucher just looked really silly in the shootout though
to quote my co-writer Hooks that is
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I hate this losing nonsense. This team looked good on paper to begin with and now its just painful to watch them play
He also did not clear the porch when Guerin scored on the power play. He just stood there.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Yeah we showed up. Great. We got a point. Great. We still lost.
We at least looked like we cared tonight. Acceptable effort.
Totally unacceptable shot selection, and I’m not talking about the shootout either.
One reason we lose games is that we take a lot of shots with people standing right the fuck in front of us.
If you looked at the stat sheet, you’d have thought it was a playoff game with all the blocked shots the Pens had. But no, we just shot the puck with them standing right in front of us. We’ve been doing that for a while now.
Yeah we’ve had our share of bad breaks. But when a team is slumping, those bad breaks stop after like a week. Ours have been going on for a month or more. That’s not the sign of a slumping team, it’s the sign of a bad team. Bad things happen to bad teams, regardless of the effort they put out.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
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