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Game 34, Preview and Open Thread: Snow Day! New York Rangers at Philadelphia Flyers

New York Rangers at Philadelphia Flyers, Dec 19, 2009 1:00 PM EST


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#9 New York Rangers (15-16-3, 33 pts) at #13 Philadelphia Flyers (15-16-2, 32 pts)
Wachovia Center - 1:00 PM ET - Philadelphia, PA
TV: CSN Philly HD, MSG 2
Radio: 610 WIP
This is the open game thread.
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Yes, the game is still on.

While most of the Delaware Valley is snowed in thanks to one of the biggest December storms in recent memory, the Flyers will look to dig themselves out as they face off against those hated Rangers for the first time this season.

Simon Gagne will be in the Flyers lineup today as the team finally starts to regain their health. Will he be the spark the Flyers need to get their offense back on track? We'll find out today. He'll play on the top line with Mike Richards and Dan Carcillo.

The Rangers come into town looking just as bad as the Flyers. They're one point ahead of the orange and black thanks to an extra game, but they're 2-6-2 in their last 10. Wade Redden and Ales Kotalik were benched after Wednesday night's loss against the Islanders, and in the back end of their home-and-home on Thursday, the Rangers snapped a five game losing streak.

John Tortorella will go with the same lineup today, sitting his struggling veterans in favor of Erik Christensen and Bobby Sanguinetti. Marian Gaborik is really the Rangers only true scoring threat, and he leads the league with 24 goals, but we also have to look out Ryan Callahan, who's on a bit of a hot streak with seven points in his last four games.

It's also Blair Betts' first game against his former team.

After the jump, Flyers probable line combos, starting goaltenders, questions to answer, and our in-game open thread.

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Flyers Line Combinations

Carcillo - Richards - Gagne
Hartnell - Carter - Briere
JVR - Giroux - Asham
Pyorala  - Betts - Laperriere

Starting Goaltenders


GP MIN W L EGA GA GAA SA SV SV% SO
Brian Boucher 14 777 4 8 34 2.63 351 317 .903 0


GP MIN W L EGA GA GAA SA SV SV% SO
Henrik Lundqvist 30 1740 13 13 74 2.55 898 824 .918 1


Questions To Answer

  1. How does Gagne perform now that he's back in the lineup? He only had one goal in the nine games he played this season, if you remember.
  2. Do Hartnell and Carter carry over the chemistry they displayed on Thursday?
  3. Can the Flyers successfully stop Marian Gaborik?
  4. How many people actually make it to the game today?

Today's game is on CSN Philly at 1 PM, and MSG 2 if you're in North Jersey or the NYC area. Listen at 610 WIP, stay warm, and as always, join us for the conversation. LET'S GO FLYERS!

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Maybe just Maybe Gagne is the answer to turn this team around, sure its highly improbably but one can only hope.

by phish'n on Dec 19, 2009 12:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Not any time soon. Gage historically plays scared for about a month after returning from injury. Even Gagne himself concedes this:


“It’s definitely going to take more than four or five games before I feel good and feel like myself again,” he said after yesterday’s practice at the Skate Zone in Voorhees. “I don’t expect to be the same player [today] as when I was 100 percent and in good shape. It’s going to take time, and I have to be patent.”

by MarioD on Dec 19, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Christmas shopping with Crazy Bitch. The ultimate day of hell at King of Prussia Mall

What more is there to say about you know who?

by Ben Feldman on Dec 19, 2009 12:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

clearly he is trying a little too hard to be funny.

by EREX21 on Dec 19, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Who is Crazy Bitch?

No, you know what? I don’t even care.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 19, 2009 1:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

But Avery and that other guy are really gutsy, stupid, but gutsy to take on Pronger after the play.

by JpH89 on Dec 19, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Kimmo and Parent together, is that new or was it like that for the Pitt game?

by JpH89 on Dec 19, 2009 12:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I haven’t seen those pairings posted anywhere…

Thursdays pairings were

Pronger-Coburn
Carle-Timmonen
Parent-Bartulis

by MarioD on Dec 19, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That’s my bad. I copied and pasted from a few games ago and forgot to make the changes.

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by Travis Hughes on Dec 19, 2009 1:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Did anyone else notice that idiot Carchidi has Andreas Nodl being sent down to the AHL to make room for Gagne?

by MarioD on Dec 19, 2009 12:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

haha, yeah I saw that. Almost said something on here, then decided it wasn’t worth it.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 19, 2009 1:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The thing is, everyone will make mistakes. But competent writers will correct it and apologize. I guarantee he’ll never mention it again. He probably doesn’t even know its wrong.

by MarioD on Dec 19, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly. Even Seravalli copped to a mistake he made here. An entire paragraph, with explanation and apology, and he clearly was embarrassed.

Stuff like that earns my respect.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 19, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Is there a live stream anywhere of the game?

by JLS89 on Dec 19, 2009 12:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

not right now, the game doesnt start until 1

by edbro on Dec 19, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ok thanks. I was just wondering if you knew of any so I don’t miss the beginning, but I’ll start looking around 1.

by JLS89 on Dec 19, 2009 12:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

If you have Sopcast installed

Looks like yahoo is also streaming the game

by sneech on Dec 19, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

atdhe.net always has a feed but it wont start until 1.

by edbro on Dec 19, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i lied…doesnt look like they have one

by edbro on Dec 19, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That place might be emptier than the Jobing.com Arena.

by Ben Feldman on Dec 19, 2009 1:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Honestly, you’d have to be a fucking idiot to be there today if you can’t take public transportation. They’re talking about being in blizzard conditions by the time the game ends.

by MarioD on Dec 19, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I didn’t even drive to work today and it’s around the corner.

Imagine how many people are going to be at the Sixers game tonight.

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by Travis Hughes on Dec 19, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What’s half of zero?

by MarioD on Dec 19, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Its a shame, too, because this game is usually a lot of people’s Christmas present.

by MarioD on Dec 19, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

odd, it’s working for me

by sneech on Dec 19, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This has been a dull game early. Boucher seems to be going down real early, pre shot even.

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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 19, 2009 1:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wow, that was pretty.

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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 19, 2009 1:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That’s a pretty unacceptable turn over.

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by Travis Hughes on Dec 19, 2009 1:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah. Tough play since he was on his knees, but at that point, you fire it off the glass or lift it in the air.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 19, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Timeout already by Laviolette? Very interesting.

by Ben Feldman on Dec 19, 2009 1:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I like it. They need to wake up.

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by Travis Hughes on Dec 19, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I think it’s a little early.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 19, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Great start
/sarcasm

by flyrsfrk05 on Dec 19, 2009 1:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Did Carcillo even hit the net there?

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by Travis Hughes on Dec 19, 2009 1:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

No

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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 19, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Carbomb with a great chance. Even showed some skill – I didn’t know he could lift a puck on his backhand.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 19, 2009 1:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Pronger can’t shoot from the point

by JpH89 on Dec 19, 2009 1:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hm, haha

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by Travis Hughes on Dec 19, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

haha he heard me

by JpH89 on Dec 19, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I love hearing the ref yelling “You’ve got a power play! You’ve got a power play!”

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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 19, 2009 1:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

And before that, “He’s goin, he’s goin!”

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by Travis Hughes on Dec 19, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Avery’s a douchebag. In case we forgot.

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by Travis Hughes on Dec 19, 2009 1:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

true, but I would love him as a flyer

by JpH89 on Dec 19, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think he’s more of a headache than he’s worth.

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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 19, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I like his personality on the ice, the total d-bag act is great. btw, in my NHL 10 franchis, my 3rd line was Avery, Carcillo, and Downie. Best line ever haha.

by JpH89 on Dec 19, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Who was your center?

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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 19, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I would think Downie.

I would never want Avery. We piss and moan about Carcillo, Avery is 100 times worse, and he runs his mouth off the ice too.

by EREX21 on Dec 19, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Avery is more like a Hartnell imo

by JpH89 on Dec 19, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

See I disagree. Hartnell has more skill. Secondly Hartnell just does dumb things without thinking. Avery is calculated. He knows exactly what he is doing. If anything, Avery is a poor man’s Tie Domi.

by EREX21 on Dec 19, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think Avery’s in his own class, really

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by Travis Hughes on Dec 19, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The difference between Avery and Domi is that Avery’s afraid to fight most tough guys. Domi would fight anybody — Avery antagonizes and skates away when somebody drops the gloves.

by memphisbrando on Dec 19, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

you are right about that. Avery is pretty much a bitch.

by EREX21 on Dec 19, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Downie, surprisingly good, but that line wasn’t out there to score anyway haha.

by JpH89 on Dec 19, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Santa Sack promo number 1

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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 19, 2009 1:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I would pay someone, anyone a grand to just punch Sean Avery out. He is the biggest c*nt in hockey.

by EREX21 on Dec 19, 2009 1:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Tie game!

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by Travis Hughes on Dec 19, 2009 1:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Pronger is awesome. Just in case you didn’t know already.

by Ben Feldman on Dec 19, 2009 1:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yayyyyyyyyyyy

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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 19, 2009 1:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

A lead would be yooge.

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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 19, 2009 1:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Was that Giroux’s second failed clear – turnover?

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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 19, 2009 1:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Gagne has been sharp.

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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 19, 2009 1:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Except for Giroux wanting him to go in front of the net on that last power play, I’ve been very impressed with Gags today.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 19, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Some of the better puck movement I remember seeing from the PP in a while.

by Ben Feldman on Dec 19, 2009 1:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Poor Jared Stall gets no love haha

by JpH89 on Dec 19, 2009 1:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Is it just me or is the pace of this game kinda slow?

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by FrankD on Dec 19, 2009 1:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

It definitely is. There’s only like 11k people there, though, so I wonder if that’s part of it. Lack of atmosphere can make things seem different.

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by Travis Hughes on Dec 19, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Kilinski commercial is so depressing

by JpH89 on Dec 19, 2009 1:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think it’s the opposite of depressing, actually, no?

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by Travis Hughes on Dec 19, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

that’s the first time i’ve seen it. what happened exactly?

by mantis toboggan on Dec 19, 2009 1:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

virtuaflyers.com tells the story quite well, ignoring the obvious advertising.

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by Travis Hughes on Dec 19, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He had a blood clot in his thigh that ended up moving to his heart, no?

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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 19, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I thought the leg had compartment syndrome or something.

I guess I should take my own advice and look it up.

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by Travis Hughes on Dec 19, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

haha, you were right. I was way off.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 19, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Man, the Rangers are taking a ton of penalties.

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by Travis Hughes on Dec 19, 2009 1:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Who’s a better coach in your opinion — Torts or Lavy?

by memphisbrando on Dec 19, 2009 1:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I don’t like Torts as a coach. As a comedian, sure.

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by Travis Hughes on Dec 19, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Im in the mood for some burgers, think i can start up the grill in this weather

by JpH89 on Dec 19, 2009 1:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

WAIT!!!!! THATS IT!!!!!THATS WHY WE HAVE COTE ON THE TEAM!!!! THEY NEEDED HIS WIFE TO DO A COTSIES CORNER!!!!!!! LMAO

by JpH89 on Dec 19, 2009 1:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

would have rather it had been his sister.

by EREX21 on Dec 19, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

His wife is the biggest organizer/contributer, and pretty much runs the Flyers wives Carnival.
Yeah she is more valuable than Cote to the Flyers organization

by Prometheus74 on Dec 19, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, she wears the pants

by JpH89 on Dec 19, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Carter’s energy has been great the last two games.

by Ben Feldman on Dec 19, 2009 2:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yeah it has, would be nice if the leagues shot leader could put a couple in the net, get his confidence up.

by EREX21 on Dec 19, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If he keeps this up, the goals will eventually come.

by Ben Feldman on Dec 19, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

we better score here cause you know the rangers are gonna get some power plays

by mantis toboggan on Dec 19, 2009 2:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Richie loves those PP turnovers

by JpH89 on Dec 19, 2009 2:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

it amazes me how many ugly goals teams score against the Flyers.

by EREX21 on Dec 19, 2009 2:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

and how few we get

by JpH89 on Dec 19, 2009 2:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well that sucks

by Prometheus74 on Dec 19, 2009 2:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Jesus, Boosh inspiring zero confidence on that play.

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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 19, 2009 2:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Pretty much all game, really.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 19, 2009 2:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The was having a momentary flashbacks of Thursdays shootout

by Prometheus74 on Dec 19, 2009 2:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Need to get it together. Rangers applying serious pressure.

by Ben Feldman on Dec 19, 2009 2:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Great job by Jonesy to show how Coburn was hung out to dry by Hartnell and then Briere.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 19, 2009 2:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

How is that a penalty???

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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 19, 2009 2:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

because a Flyer made contact and a non Flyer went down. Duh.

by EREX21 on Dec 19, 2009 2:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That’s a pretty weak call.

by Ben Feldman on Dec 19, 2009 2:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Weak call doesn’t quite describe it. Gagne didn’t even touch him.

by pintium02 on Dec 19, 2009 2:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

He did get him with the stick. Very slightly, but he did touch him.

by philiafan14364 on Dec 19, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

haha interference

by mantis toboggan on Dec 19, 2009 2:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

District 5

TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 19, 2009 2:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

crappy shift from lappy!

by Prometheus74 on Dec 19, 2009 2:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

gagne’s rust showing a little the last two shifts

by mantis toboggan on Dec 19, 2009 2:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

carter is showing some good hustle maybe he heard he might get traded

by sjuhawks42 on Dec 19, 2009 2:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Petee better have ripped into em during the break. Theyre playing better than a week ago, but its still not good enough.

by philiafan14364 on Dec 19, 2009 2:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Carter will play better next season…contract year

by Crosby sucks on Dec 19, 2009 2:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

so who does Lavy sit for Powe when he comes back??? Who would you guys sit?

by SanDiegoScraps on Dec 19, 2009 2:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

prob Pyro

by JpH89 on Dec 19, 2009 2:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

shit … made tacos during the break, cutting up onions and sliced my finger tip off

by Crosby sucks on Dec 19, 2009 2:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, dude that sucks. I’ve done that before.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 19, 2009 2:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i mean i would sit couburn but thats not the right position maybe lappy

by sjuhawks42 on Dec 19, 2009 2:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Isn’t it great to be the fans of a winning team?

Neither fanbase can answer that right now without weeping openly.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Dec 19, 2009 2:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i wrapped with hockey tape

by Crosby sucks on Dec 19, 2009 2:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Im really getting sick of watching this uninspired hockey

by Prometheus74 on Dec 19, 2009 2:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

4 on 2 and a drop pass??

by Crosby sucks on Dec 19, 2009 2:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

were you expecting a goal???

by JpH89 on Dec 19, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i get back to you on that..got to get the magic 8 ball out

by Crosby sucks on Dec 19, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Cant even make simple passes easily

by philiafan14364 on Dec 19, 2009 3:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Its sad, no matter what goalie we face we make them look like all stars

by SkookFlyerfan on Dec 19, 2009 3:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

wtf briere turnover king

by sjuhawks42 on Dec 19, 2009 3:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

not really

Danny made two great moves to get in, what did hi linemates do though was idiotic. Hartnell went behind the net and Carter was along the boards on the other side. He had no help.

by JpH89 on Dec 19, 2009 3:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice move by Danny, just gotta finish/have someone to pass to

by philiafan14364 on Dec 19, 2009 3:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

My god. Zero breaks.

by Ben Feldman on Dec 19, 2009 3:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

JVR has a great opportunity there. FAIL

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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 19, 2009 3:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

And how many players of this team are going to play in the Olympics? 6 or 7 possible isn’t that sad

by Crosby sucks on Dec 19, 2009 3:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Progner might be the only Canadian now
Carter os off and Richards is now doubtful

by Prometheus74 on Dec 19, 2009 3:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

this team is cursed

by JpH89 on Dec 19, 2009 3:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

we have scored only 16 goals in out last 10 games!
Thank god for that 6-2 blowout win against the Islanders

by Prometheus74 on Dec 19, 2009 3:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

why are we incapable of scoring. It seems every goalie we play against turns into superman. I hate to blame luck, but it seems everytime we get a good chance the puck takes an odd bounce away from us

by njh3293 on Dec 19, 2009 3:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

all our shots that make it to the net are low % and
All scoring chances miss the net or are blocked

by SanDiegoScraps on Dec 19, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

New concept

We skate to the puck, instead of letting it come to us. Good idea?

by philiafan14364 on Dec 19, 2009 3:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Pronger has had a pretty good game so far

by JpH89 on Dec 19, 2009 3:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Fucking finish!!!!!!!!! Come on Danny

by philiafan14364 on Dec 19, 2009 3:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I just got home, so forgive me for being out of the loop of conversation, but does this whole thing seem a little slow motion to anyone else?

by DragonGirl0583 on Dec 19, 2009 3:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah… kinda odd.

by Ben Feldman on Dec 19, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Harnell is due to take a dumb penalty right about now

by Prometheus74 on Dec 19, 2009 3:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This is just painful to watch

by SkookFlyerfan on Dec 19, 2009 3:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, its just so hard to watch cause we have been so close and are outshooting NY but just can’t score. It’s a little frustrating cause the Flyers have had some good looks on goal.

by JLS89 on Dec 19, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Budwieser makes it easier to digest

by Crosby sucks on Dec 19, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Dear Flyers:
The object of Hockey is to score goals. It seems you have forgotten this
Love,
Your fans

by njh3293 on Dec 19, 2009 3:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Where is the hustle? Do they not realize that there are only 4 minutes left and they are losing????

by NoalB on Dec 19, 2009 3:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

There doesn’t seem to be hustle from either team, which is so weird. The puck is like drifting along slowly… when somebody does actually make a pass at what would be normal speed (like Asham’s 30 seconds ago), it seems completely out of place because the pace is so slow

by DragonGirl0583 on Dec 19, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

tick…tick…tick

by Crosby sucks on Dec 19, 2009 3:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

When you make a pass, put it on the guys stick, my god

by philiafan14364 on Dec 19, 2009 3:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Why do we never have a goalie who can make saves like this?

by Ben Feldman on Dec 19, 2009 3:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

because we dont play against ourselves. I honestly dont think its the opposing goalie, we literally are jus cursed.

and has anyone else noticed everytime Carter gets the puck he trys the same move, he skates to the outside, waits 2 seconds and basically tells the goalie what hes about to do, and then takes a wide angled wrist shot thats easy to stop.

by njh3293 on Dec 19, 2009 3:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think Boosh goes to sleep every night hoping the Flyers will trade him

by SkookFlyerfan on Dec 19, 2009 3:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

scoring one goal through the first 58 minutes is unacceptable, no matter how good they play on D

by SanDiegoScraps on Dec 19, 2009 3:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

A good burst of energy at the end, but I doubt it will matter

by philiafan14364 on Dec 19, 2009 3:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, apparently they only had 90 seconds of energy left in the tank and felt they had to save it til the end… I cant tell how much of the problem is motivation, what part is lack of conditioning, etc.

by DragonGirl0583 on Dec 19, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully my sons high school hockey tonite is more exciting than this

by Crosby sucks on Dec 19, 2009 3:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

2 man advantage for about 30 seconds

by philiafan14364 on Dec 19, 2009 3:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Carter HAS to win that faceoff CLEANLY. My god, this was an incredibly frustrating game.

by Ben Feldman on Dec 19, 2009 3:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

what the hell was Richie doing with 5 seconds left?!?!?

that may have been the stupidest thing i ever saw a player do.

by JpH89 on Dec 19, 2009 3:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

the rangers fucking suck are you kidding me

by mantis toboggan on Dec 19, 2009 3:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

the flyers suck more obviously and we will finish with a record in the bottom 3 and the Ducks get our pick…fantastic.

by EREX21 on Dec 19, 2009 3:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

we suck. how is a team with this much talent phsyically incapable of scoring. trade everyone, this team is garbage.

by njh3293 on Dec 19, 2009 3:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Jim Jackson: “this team has life”

No, they don’t. They’ve lost that love and feeling

TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 19, 2009 3:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

its gone gone gone whoaoao

by SanDiegoScraps on Dec 19, 2009 3:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, we can win on the road in Boston, but can’t win at home verse the Rangers?!

by JLS89 on Dec 19, 2009 3:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That win was an anomaly. This team is bad, vewwy bad. District 5 bad

TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 19, 2009 3:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They are a really bad team playing desperate hockey
We are just pathetic

by Prometheus74 on Dec 19, 2009 3:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Rangers didnt even play well!

by Prometheus74 on Dec 19, 2009 3:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Rangers stink and the Flyers made them look like cup contenders.

by doubleh on Dec 19, 2009 3:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

So why the hell can’t we just fire everyone on this team? Minus Boucher?

by Boog609 on Dec 19, 2009 3:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Stick a fork in them. What an awful game.

by doubleh on Dec 19, 2009 3:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

What pathetic play. This team is horrible, I’m tired of hearing how good our player are and how great of a game the other team’s goalie is playing. Make some God Damn trades!

by SkookFlyerfan on Dec 19, 2009 3:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Can’t. Holiday trade freeze. Goes until the 27. Four more games between now and then.

by Ben Feldman on Dec 19, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with making trades, but who the hell would want anyone on our team?

by njh3293 on Dec 19, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Boosh may have actually increased his market value over this stretch….

by DragonGirl0583 on Dec 19, 2009 3:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Leighton/Backlund all the way to the Cup!

by Ben Feldman on Dec 19, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah…but trade boosh and we lose every game 5-1 instead of 2-1

by njh3293 on Dec 19, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t want trade him, I was just answering the “Who would they want” question

by DragonGirl0583 on Dec 19, 2009 3:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think Boosh is begging to get traded right now

by SkookFlyerfan on Dec 19, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

this team needs to practice fundamentals, not systems. break out the shooter tooter, and bust out the basic pass and shoot drills in practice.

by SanDiegoScraps on Dec 19, 2009 3:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

lightning drills for any shot not on net

by SanDiegoScraps on Dec 19, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agree/Disagree

I actually thought the Flyers played a very solid 3rd period. I thought they deserved to lose in OT.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Dec 19, 2009 3:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i think theyre good enough to finish 4th in the Southeast Division right now

TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 19, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We’re certainly not going to win the Western Conference.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Dec 19, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I could almost sense that the Rags knew that they only needed to score 2 goals to win. After the 2nd goal, they were playing “not to lose”, which is why we had so many shots in the 3rd period compared to them…

by SanDiegoScraps on Dec 19, 2009 3:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

By the way...

… the season is over. They have what, 48 games left and they need to win at least 31 of them to have a shot at the playoffs?

Not gonna happen.

Holmgren and Snider need to go. It’s not enough to fire Holmgren because Snider will replace him with “a loyal organizational soldier.” We don’t need another inbred GM. We need fresh ideas. We need a new direction entirely.

It’s beyond the coach; it’s beyond the players. The culture of the organization must change or it will be doomed to fail.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Dec 19, 2009 3:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Disagree

The play on the ice is lackluster. They need to get rid of some big names, get draft picks, and sign a top echelon goalie. Bot a 2nd tier, not a goalie with upside, they need a top 5, top 10 goalie. How they do that, I don’t know. King Henry won that game for the Rangers. Boucher doesn’t win games

TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 19, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree that we need a stud netminder, but today was not Boucher’s fault. We can’t fucking score.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Dec 19, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

People are awarding Boucher with playing great goaltending, keeping the Flyers in games. This is what happens to Boucher: opposing team scores goals, grabs a 1-2 goal lead over the Flyers. Then the other team throws lazy shots/typical flyers shots at Boucher that a backup can stop. Since the Flyers couldn’t score if the other goalie was a prostitute, the other team can slow the game down and all they have to do is keep the Flyers off the board.

TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 19, 2009 3:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If Snider steps down, Luukko’s in charge. Snider’s been grooming Luukko into a clone for years now.

by Ben Feldman on Dec 19, 2009 3:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Disagree

My father has done business with both men and says that they could not be any more different, at least personality-wise.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Dec 19, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I also disagree. Its not the coaches, or the management. This team just cannot score. If you’re players won’t score you can’t do anything. The Adirondack Phantoms could score more than these bums. they’re professionals and BY ACCIDENT they should score more goals

by SkookFlyerfan on Dec 19, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

There is no reason at all that we should be saying “This team cannot score.” We need to trade one big name for another because some of our big names need a fresh start elsewhere. My problem is, who gets traded and for whom? Does Homer make a shrewd move or screw up?

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Dec 19, 2009 3:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Does Homer make a shrewd move or screw up?

This is a rhetorical question, right?

by Ben Feldman on Dec 19, 2009 3:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No. He’s made good moves before, so he could do it again.

The way things have been going though, I only expect failure.

That angers me to no end. We’re supposed to be the proud, always-competitive Flyers. And we are anything but.

I hope 2010 features the worst draft in NHL history since we won’t be getting anyone.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Dec 19, 2009 3:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

exactly. THey need to do something to send a message. Laviolette and/or homer better be in the locker room throwing chairs right now. And make Carter/Hartnell/one of our “stars” a healthy scratch for the next game to send a message. It worked when ANdy Reid Benched Donovan. Act like a bitch get treated like a bitch. thats the message that needs to be sent

by njh3293 on Dec 19, 2009 3:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought the Carter/Hartnell/Briere line was solid today. They are a microcosm of the team – working hard but not producing.

The only “message” that can be sent effectively is a trade.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Dec 19, 2009 3:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They were the best line on the ice, but you have to send a message somehow. SOmetimes someone just has to be the fall guy. you cant bench the captain as that would create a shitstorm that would last well beyond this season. As you said, that line was a microcosm of the team and for that reason one of them needs to be the fall guy to send the message that working hard but not finishing isnt good enough.

by njh3293 on Dec 19, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

if they cant turn things around this team is fucked for the long term. Richards signed a 12 year contract and he looks like a role player at best right now. Carter will be gone in two years but he hurts his trade value everytime he steps on the ice. Briere’s contract makes him untradeable. Pronger is as advertised but we’ll have given up a top 5 draft pick to get him. We don’t have a goalie. Every other “good” player on our team is signed to a long term fat contract that makes them untradeable. were stuck this team blows.

by njh3293 on Dec 19, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

it’s easy to lead a team when the team is winning. It takes a real captain to lead in the face of defeat.

TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 19, 2009 3:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Richards is trying. Stevens’ departure lit a fire under him. I never thought I’d hear him say anything like he did after the 6-1 loss at Pittsburgh.

Much like the Lindros era, we’ve got the right centerpiece but the wrong supporting cast. And this has been going on for the last 20 years.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Dec 19, 2009 3:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Pronger speaks, Boucher speaks, Laviolette speaks. Time for Richie to own up and open up to the media, at least create some sort of drama other than “how much will this team suck tonight”

TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 19, 2009 3:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Get used to this ...

Nothing’s going to change with this team, because of all the talk that this team has the talent it needs to win, it certainly does not have the chemistry. Holmgren is not going to trade a player with talent to change the chemistry, so this is what they are stuck with. Worse, their 1st pick, which certainly seemed to be a late rounder when it was traded, looks like it will be an early rounder or, dare I say it, a lottery pick. So they don’t even get the prize waiting for them at the end of a dismal season.

But Philly fans can look forward to pitchers and catchers reporting in February, at least.

by memphisbrando on Dec 19, 2009 4:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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