Another Day, Another Loss: Rangers 2, Flyers 1
No words. I have no idea what to say. I'm getting sick of having to write stories about how badly the Flyers played, how they didn't deserve to win, and how they still can't score. How bad are the Flyers? They scored one goal against a team that has been giving up 2.91 per game, good for 9th most in the league.
The Rangers won the battle at even-strength, outscoring the Flyers 2-0 at 5-on-5 play. How rare is this? The Rangers have a -8 goal deferential at 5-on-5 play. Yet the Flyers can't get a goal at even strength. The power play wasn't any better, going 1 for 5.
One of the most telling things in this game was Peter Laviolette calling a timeout after the Rangers first goal. Just over 5 minutes into the game, the Rangers had already outshot the Flyers 5-1 when Claude Giroux had a pass from his knees get picked off in his own zone. Chris Drury put the turnover in the net and Laviolette called a timeout. Not a good start to the game.
In his post-game press conference, Peter Laviolette was clearly not happy:
"It was a poor start, there's no excuse for it. I can't think of one reason why we would come out flat, but we did. We needed the time out to try and refocus. I would have thought we would have ripped the hinges off the gate tonight to get on the ice. We were so far from that in my opinion, to start the game, and we got what we deserved."
The game-winning goal was scored by Artem Ansimov, as his centering pass went off of Ryan Parent's shin pad and past Boucher. It was a lucky bounce, but Ryan Callahan won the battle against Parent in the corner, then beat Parent for positioning in front of the net. They earned their luck, something the Flyers haven't been doing.
After the jump, Random Thoughts, Questions with Answers, highlights, and the Comment of the [Afternoon].
Random Thoughts:
- Mika Pyorala only played 5:05 tonight, but he had as many shots on goal as Danny Briere (1) who played 19:45. And it was a scoring chance at that.
- With that in mind, I think it's safe to say Pyorala will be a scratch when Darroll Powe returns to the lineup.
- Speaking of returning to the lineup, Simon Gagne was rather impressive in his first game back. He logged 20:16 of ice time, had a key assist on Pronger's goal, and showed a lot of jump in his skates. It's good to have him back.
- This team's offensive plan is rather predictable. I have a hard time believing the opposing team is surprised by anything the Flyers do in the offensive zone. That makes it easy to defend.
- This was mentioned in the game thread by Prometheus74, but the Flyers have now scored 17 goals in their last 11 games. Only twice have they scored more than two goals in that time period, both of them wins. They have only scored 8 goals in their last 9 losses.
- The Flyers won the faceoff battle (53%), the shot battle (37-24), and the penalty battle (5-2), but not the war.
- District 5.
Questions with Answers:
- How does Gagne perform now that he's back in the lineup? He only had one goal in the nine games he played this season, if you remember. He played very well. No goals, but an assist to go along with a strong forecheck.
- Do Hartnell and Carter carry over the chemistry they displayed on Thursday? I wasn't impressed with Hartnell at all today, but the Carter-Hartnell-Briere line was the best today.
- Can the Flyers successfully stop Marian Gaborik? Yes. Just under 21 minutes of ice time, no points and only 1 shot.
- How many people actually make it to the game today? Eh. Two-thirds capacity? I'm obviously not sure. Anybody have a better answer?
Highlights:
Comment of the Night:
Pronger can’t shoot from the point (said two minutes before Pronger scores the tying goal)
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The game was technically a sell-out, with attendance recorded as 19,637, but that’s obviously paid attendance as opposed to actual attendance. The lower level was almost empty to start the game, looked surprisingly full in the second period, then started evacuating between the second and the third. Extraordinary turnout given the conditions, if you ask me.
its a shame u cant ask for better tending from boucher, but u have to. one on five in the defensive zone and u turn it over? thats just absolutely terrible. if the other team gets one lucky break a game, were going to overtime at best. but since they have been getting more, we have been losing. im a flyers fan in tennessee and i absolutley get up for every game. flew to philly to watch them. drive to atlanta to watch them. hell, im driving to raleigh the 26th just to watch them. and every game here lately, they just break my heart a little more and more. so i can imagine what u guys in philly are feeling like. i agree with what laviolette says, that u would think they would come out with more intensity. i think the fans have more heart and care more than the players do. and until that changes, they will continue to lose.
Sad fact is that when the team actually decides to plays well Boucher will probably have a bad night
by Prometheus74 on Dec 19, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
Its tough enough to watch the flyers play this poorly but its also becoming unbearable to listen to the Comcast announcers try and sugarcoat the crapy product the Flyers have become lately. I turn to sports to get away from TV personalities blatantly lying to me.
I know its their job and they are in a tough spot but I hate hearing the
“Flyers really played well but…”
I bet Carolina can’t wait to play us again.
This team’s a joke. We missed the trade deadline so all I have to say is we better make a trade after the holiday and get some draft picks because at this rate we’re not even making the playoffs. This team is beyond pathetic and it pains me to say that because I bleed orange and black. I just feel bad for Boosh. They guy is playing well but getting zero support. I’m just sick right now with this lack of team effort.
Phew, thank god Holmgren stood pat and didn’t make a move before the roster freeze. I’d hate to break up this juggernaut…
Question to all the people who think the Flyers should’ve signed Mike Knuble: Have you noticed that Dan Carcillo now does exactly what Knuble was doing, is a faster skater and better forechecker, takes fewer bad penalties, and costs a million dollars less?
Flyers now need a minimum of 60 pts in their last 48 games.
Carcillo has surprised but
I still don’t see him as a scoring threat and that is what should be on the richards line.
by whosyourjockey on Dec 20, 2009 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
you don't think we need someone infront of the net.
I really think Carter looks better but we are missing that guy that stands in the porch and sweeps in the trash.
by whosyourjockey on Dec 20, 2009 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
I’ll give it to Carter that hes working harder on the forecheck and in his own zone, something that he’s been criticized for not doing in the past.
But offensively he epitomizes what the entire team is doing wrong. He’s to predictable, hes trying to do too much, and hes trying to do it on his own. He trys the same move every single time he comes into the zone. He skates to the wing (the defenders know this forcing him even further outside) and he fires a wrist shot from a sharp angle that has no chance of going in and no real chance of producing a juicy rebound. Thats why he needs to be traded/benched for a game. Its not because he isnt playing hard. Its because he is our offensive scheme in a microcosm, and the team needs to realize that that is unacceptable. And this was going on ong before Laviolette took over so im hard pressed to blame him for this. Its Carter. His best assets are his speed and his shot, and he is relying solely on those.
Give Carter and Lav time
Coach Lav has a plan to make Carter play like Eric Staal and I am fine with that and the last two games I see it. I think Hartnell is the downfall again of that line. Give a rebound to who no one is near the net when Carter shoots if he is so predictable which at times i do think he is why is no one on our team realizing he is shooting and get to the net or hey wait a minute even better get in front of the goalie. Bottom line Hartnell and Carcillo are not going to put a lot of goals in and we should not expect them too.
by whosyourjockey on Dec 20, 2009 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
Because Carter predictably shoots after taking three strides across the blue line. Long before anyone can get anywhere near the front of the net.
Hartnell for years consistently has scored between 25 and 30 goals, and will do so again this season.
I really disagree with trading anyone at this time I think it is a panic move
I think it is a panic move to trade someone when Powe is coming back. We need to unfortunately win a few and then trade. We need the value of these guys to go up a little. We will never even get close to an equal player for anyone right now. Again if someone would wave their no trade clause like Gagne i would not be opposed to moving him his salary and his injuries.
by whosyourjockey on Dec 21, 2009 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
Yes. Darryl Powe is going to fix this team. Because all their problems stem from losing a fourth line winger.
Jesus Christ…
powe is not a fourth liner anymore
You obviously have not watched this team from preseason and last year. He is by far at the worst a second liner he has improved so much and is by far the spark plug we need.
by whosyourjockey on Dec 21, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
I’m a huge Darroll Powe supporter. Mario and I disagree on that obviously (and whether he should play on the PK, let alone in the NHL), but this line:
He is by far at the worst a second liner
is just unequivocally incorrect. Powe is not a Top-6 forward on this team (Richards, Carter, Briere, Hartnell, Giroux, Gagne to name only 6) and I’d be interested if he could be one anywhere in the NHL.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 21, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
forced meme is forced.
Drop the district 5 boredom.
by BroadStreetBully on Dec 19, 2009 6:16 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
You gotta realize something: At first it was a joke, but it’s become a sad reality.
It’s said when the team performs like utmost shit. It was said in the beginning as a joke; said because The Flyers were a much better team than they were showing. There was hope that there would be a bounceback.
After this game? Not so much. It’s said because the team has become District 5: Can’t pass, can’t shoot, can’t do anything right, can’t win.
On a more personal side:
It’s funny as hell, and if you don’t like it, and would rather talk about the Flyers shitty play seriously, go ahead. I’m at the point where watching them is akin to watching The Mighty Ducks. Every time Carter touches the puck I think he’s going to trip over the blue line.
TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 20, 2009 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
It’s a shame that the die hard fans like the one’s on here care more about the team than the actual team does. This team is unwatchable. Just boring. No heart, no urgency, no pride at all. Just kill off this 60 minute game so we can get out and party is what appears to me as this teams mindset, and I for one am sick of it.
What a craptastic game. I fell asleep.
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Something Good from today
Simon Gagne.
We complain about Gagne’s injuries all of the time, but I love the guy. (No homo, as they say.) He was out for two months, came back today and was one of the best players on the ice for either team. The only time he takes a shift off is when he’s not at 100 percent.
Also, the “on again, off again” performance of the team under both Stevens AND Laviolette has shown everyone in no uncertain terms that we do not have the right mix of players here. The ball is officially in Holmgren’s court. He has no choice but to make a move.
Since we’re not technically out of the running for a playoff spot, Homer should make a team to address immediate team needs (scoring). If that doesn’t work and the season actually becomes lost, then he should trade for draft picks.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Gagne was good tonight
Still think we should have gotten rid of him unfortunately because he is just so injury prone. But he is here with no trade clause and came back playing great. I hope it lasts for a while.
by whosyourjockey on Dec 20, 2009 10:40 AM EST reply actions
What might convince Anaheim to trade Philly's 1st round pick back?
Considering it may be a lottery pick, it would take a great deal to get it back. Maybe trade Coburn?
The rumor media state Holmgren is trying to ship out Carter, but can’t find “equal value” for him. Is that a smart move, or should he try and keep him?
If that’s all it would take to get that pick back, I’d make that trade in a heartbeat…
by Ben Feldman on Dec 20, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah but let's not get fancy here Travis
we suck too :-)
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Wow - last place
I cannot believe that this team is in last place in the Atlantic and only one other team is below them into the East. These guys are playing to build their stats to try and make the Olympic teams. If I were Canada I would not take Richards or Pronger on the team – they are both having awful years!
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