Game 35, Preview and Open Thread: Revenge of the Panthers? Florida Panthers at Philadelphia Flyers
by Travis Hughes on Dec 21, 2009 6:22 PM EST
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#8 Florida Panthers (15-15-7, 37 pts) at #14 Philadelphia Flyers (15-17-2, 32 pts)
Wachovia Center - 7:00 PM EST - Philadelphia, PA
TV: CSN Philly HD, FSN Florida
Radio: 610 WIP (internet stream)
This is the open game thread.
Behind Enemy Lines: Litter Box Cats
You remember the hit. The destruction of David Booth's face by the shoulder of Mike Richards. It was legal, but that doesn't mean the Panthers are going to let it go. Sure, there was no on-ice response during the game in which the hit happened, implying that Florida realized at the time that there wasn't much wrong with the hit. But after the post-game rhetoric hit them like a ton of bricks, they decided after the fact that, oh wait, it was a dirty hit, and tonight, it looks like we'll see some fireworks. Or maybe not, as these things usually turn out, but the recipe is certainly there.
Florida general manager Randy Sexton was pretty ticked off about the hit in his post game comments back in October, which forced Flyers GM Paul Holmgren to tell Sexton to "watch more hockey games." Apparently Sexton decided to watch the '70s hit Slap Shot in place of actual NHL hockey, because as reported by the Daily News, he's called up Ogie Ogilthorpe to suit up for the Panthers tonight.
Alright, so it's not actually the most feared goon in the Federal League and Syracuse's finest, Ogilthorpe, but instead it's Steve MacIntyre, who's played a grand total of 30 NHL games. The guy had 207 penalty minutes in just 27 games with AHL Hartford in the 2004-05 season, meaning he spent 12.7 percent of his Hartford career in the penalty box, and probably a lot less than that actually on the ice playing hockey.
Then there's Mike Duco, also called up today by Sexton and the Panthers, and while his resume isn't as impressive as MacIntyre's, he still has quite the rap sheet. In some sort of ironic twist, he played on the same Kitchener Rangers team that Richards captained in 2003-04.
There's no shying away from what these guys are here to do. Richards should keep his head on a swivel tonight. He can handle himself, but we'll see what happens.
As for Booth, he's in Philadelphia, traveling with his team on this three-game road trip for the first time, I believe, since the hit. He's a few weeks from returning to game action, though.
Back to the hockey thing, of course: the Panthers have quietly been decent in their last few games. They have at least a point in seven of their last ten, compared to the Flyers who have failed to pick up a point in seven of their last ten. It's ugly and we all know it.
Win? Maybe?
After the jump, questions to answer, starting goaltenders, and our in-game open thread.
Starting Goaltenders
Questions To Answer
- Simple question: how long does it take a Panther to take a run at Mike Richards, and does it end in an all-out bloodbath?
- If that happens, can the Flyers use it as something to pump them up? Nothing else seems to work. If it doesn't happen, can they find any other motivation?
- Do the Flyers dress Cote to counter Florida's goon duo, and how much ice time do any of these goons get?
- We all know the other questions like they're a broken record by now. Scoring, power play, penalty kill, goaltending. What's the deal tonight?
Tonight's game will be broadcast locally on CSN Philly and 610 WIP. As always, join us here for the conversation, and LET'S GO FLYERS!
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Line brawl or this game is a failure.
Interesting twist (i can’t imagine it was thought out a week in advance) that Carcillo was recently placed on Ricards’ line. That’ll keep MacIntyre in check.
Really interesting, but yeah, especially considering Laviolette wasn’t here when the Booth hit happened, I doubt it was planned in advance. Still fun, though.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 21, 2009 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
A win tonight means little
Beating the Panthers is slightly better than beating the Isles. Slightly. The Boston win should have been the turning point, but Pittsburgh proved that theory wrong. A win tonight will only means the Cats played worse than the Flyers. It will not mean Philly played better than Florida.
You can bet Homer is counting down the end of the trade freeze more than he is counting down to the new year.
No, they need a win just as much as they did against the Rangers or the Penguins or anyone else. It’s still two points, and from here on out, every point is vital.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 21, 2009 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
I didn’t realize this before, but Hartnell has a no-move clause of some kind. Granted, he knows that he deserves to be moved just as much as anyone (he’s admitted as much, and you have to respect a guy for that) and he’s not the kind of guy to block a trade, but that throws another wrench into that DJ 3000 machine of Homer’s.
There’s a fine line tonight between the importance of winning and the importance of sending the message. I hope they walk it well.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 21, 2009 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
Shutting down the league for the Olympics may be the stupidest idea in the history of professional sports.
Al Morganti just went on a pretty epic tirade on pre-game live.
Yeah, I disagree with him though. The NHL might be the best hockey league in the world, but it’s the Olympics. I don’t think pros should play in the Olympics, but since they are for good and that’s a moot argument, you’ve gotta let guys play for their country. I’d be furious if I could play for the USA and wasn’t able to.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 21, 2009 6:58 PM EST up reply actions
I agree 100% percent.
I’ll watch a lot of olympic hockey, but won’t care nearly as much as I care about any regular season Flyers game.
I won’t disagree with you there, but to a lot of the players (especially the Europeans), the Olympics are a huge deal.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 21, 2009 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
Pyorala scratched, Cote in, according to several reports on Twitter.
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Nothing like taking out a guy who can contribute to counteract goons put in by Florida. As you said in the preview – Richards can handle himself; let Florida waste spots in their lineup with these guys…counter by being faster and more skilled. With Asham, Lappy and Carcillo in the lineup, there are plenty of guys to defend Richie if it’s not a good idea for him to drop the gloves (although 5 for fighting always helps my fantasy lineup)…
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by Jordan Ellel on Dec 21, 2009 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
I have a feeling that the difference between analysis from Al Morganti and from Bill Clement is going to be striking tonight, win or lose.
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Incredible isn’t it?
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 21, 2009 7:12 PM EST up reply actions
The announcers for the Panthers think by having those two tough guys in the lineup, that Philly won’t hit there better players tonight
I highly doubt that. At least that better not be the case.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 21, 2009 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
how is it that the carter hartnell briere line is so good at getting chances, but they can never capatilize?
Man, the money we could have if we found out an answer for that…
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 21, 2009 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
Unbelievable
The feed for Richards Lounge goes down right as the fight picks up. Seriously?
MyP2P only has ONE damn feed for the game – anyone have any others?
Hartnell’s never going to learn.
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That’s hockey right there. Love it.
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Anyone else having no luck with the feeds tonight?
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It’s not a huge deal because I am going to be heading out in 10 minutes, but I’d like to watch…
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by Jordan Ellel on Dec 21, 2009 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
got me, but it truly does suck…
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by Jordan Ellel on Dec 21, 2009 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
Different day, same result.
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So if you’re Homer, do you make your trades before the Winter Classic or after (especially if they’re what they should be — trades for draft picks, prospects and young players with high energy)?
After
From a business perspective the fans have the jerseys, and merchandise. If trades start before the winter classic, sales will go down.
Personally Id trade asap if the right players were available
by Prometheus74 on Dec 21, 2009 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
Does it really matter? The roster freeze is over just before the Classic, so it’s maybe a one game difference.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 21, 2009 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
You wanna make the playoffs? Not saying the two points would necessarily make the difference, but this is a lame duck team, everybody knows it, and as an organization you can’t just say “ah, well, these two points aren’t going to matter anyway.”
I wonder what it would take for the Flyers to get Brindamour? They need a veteran in here who doesn’t have the polarizing(supposedly) personality of Pronger.
That would be one of the worst trades in Flyers history.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 21, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
That was the worst comment in history. How can you judge something without knowing anything about it? I didn’t say he would be brought in here to score 40 goals and be the team MVP. But the Pens had a fractured locker room last year, they brought in a respected vet and what do you know, the rest is history. Brindamour is one of the most respected players in the league. If half the team won’t listen to Richards and half the team won’t listen to Pronger then what do you have to lose by getting someone like Brindamour? Not like the Canes are playing for anything.
The Pens just didn’t like Therrien and as much as it pains me to say it, Brind’amour’s washed up at this point.
Brind’Amour can’t play anymore. It’s no secret. He’s been a healthy scratch on the worst team in the East.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 21, 2009 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
Not to mention he has a 3.6 million dollar cap hit.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 21, 2009 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
http://www.canescountry.com/2009/12/7/1189792/hurricanes-at-penguins-game-day
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 21, 2009 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
That’s wonderful but that was the one game I mentioned when I said Brindamour has missed one game all year. That is hardly an indictment of someone.
Sure it is. Any time someone is a healthy scratch it’s an indictment on their game.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 21, 2009 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
As someone who played hockey through college and has coached it, one game is sending a message. Scratching someone continuously however has a purpose, and that is an indictment on someone’s personality, or ability or both.
http://www.canescountry.com/2009/12/8/1191196/much-ado-about-rod-brindamour
It wasn’t just sending a message. He’s sucked all season.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 21, 2009 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
Pardon me for suggesting that the biggest bunch of underachieving, heartless hockey players in Flyers history should go out and get a character guy to try and bring a fractured team together. Once again, I never said that bringing him, or anyone else on board would be the great cure to their problems. It was simply a comment. But considering he has won a cup and helped lead the team to the conference finals last year he obviously knows a thing or two about winning. Something this team clearly needs.
Absolutely. But so far that does not seem to be working. In fact, it seems as though that has further divided the team. Not saying it was anything Pronger or Richards has done or not done but clearly Pronger has not brought the team together at all.
Oh, no doubt. I just don’t know if it’s a question of when a trade is made rather than availability of a trade. I don’t think they’re sitting there saying “we’ve gotta make a deal before New Years” regardless of what the move is. I’d rather have them wait til after the Classic for the right trade (if there even is one) than rush into something just because of some arbitrarily set internal deadline.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 21, 2009 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
They have till then to decide to get rid of players or Holgren as GM
by Prometheus74 on Dec 21, 2009 7:33 PM EST up reply actions
That was boarding?
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This is gonna get fun, officially.
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http://www.billclement.com/clips/deepwoods.mov
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its sad times when I watch a shirtless Clememt talking to me in a tent during a Flyers powerplay knowing I wont miss anything
by Prometheus74 on Dec 21, 2009 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
new video stream st://AzkCgpwEdTEDMQWCoAHIgBbPBCiIFMTGY+XwTA/LEvRMihcHZmxvcmlkYYpBB2RlZmF1bHSKogFz
you’ll need stream torrent installed
You can hit the mute button, ya know. lol
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 21, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
Gagne really isn’t shying away from anything.
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Or he wants to make a case for a stanley cup contender to pick him up
by Prometheus74 on Dec 21, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
That got me to thinking.. who was the last player to spend all (or mostly all) of his career with the Flyers and retire as a Flyer?
Therien was the first to come to mind for me, but there are certainly a good number since Clarke.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 21, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
What a bad penalty by Briere. So typical.
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And there it is….
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Dec 21, 2009 8:08 PM EST reply actions
Coburn leaves his guy to go after the puck that’s already been saved by Boucher, leaving Weiss wiiiiiide open.
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He’s stepping in front of the shooter to keep him from getting his own rebound. No problem with that play.
I guess, but someone has to pick up Weiss there.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 21, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
Leighton now… This teams just keeps getting worse
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Dec 21, 2009 8:09 PM EST reply actions
Hey, Leighton.
The pain doesn’t stop.
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Not to mention they scored at exactly the 2 minute mark, it looks like.
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No it was like 2:45. But they lower it to 2:00 after the goal
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Dec 21, 2009 8:11 PM EST reply actions
Was it? My bad. I honestly wasn’t paying much attention until the goal.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 21, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
2:42 left on the pp, just checked the dvr.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Dec 21, 2009 8:12 PM EST reply actions
Gotta give Leighton a little credit so far. Can’t be easy to come in on a PP, especially with this team and our PK.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Dec 21, 2009 8:14 PM EST reply actions
I have no problem asking any question. Jim Jackson just scolded me in the first intermission for what I wrote in today’s paper.
He told me that Laviolette “knows more hockey than I will ever know,” and be prepared to get yelled at. I work for the DN, not the Flyers.
To be fair, that’s only one side of the story.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 21, 2009 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
What did JJ supposedly take issue with, do you know?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 21, 2009 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
I believe it was his column this morning, but I’m not sure.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 21, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
I’m assuming this is the part you are referring to, Mario.
Holmgren didn’t do this crop any favors by bringing in a coach with a risky offensive system that often leads to neutral-zone breakdowns. The Flyers are just 2-6-1 under the drill sergeant-like Laviolette. Odd-man rushes come at the Flyers without fail. Whether the players like it or not, he has the right personality for the laid-back bunch – but not the right plan.
Is it safe to assume that’s what Seravalli supposedly got scolded by JJ for?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 21, 2009 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe I don't want a feed for tonight...
Still, want to be able to seem em play, good or bad, but judging from all the comments I may be better off bashing my head into the fucking monitor.
Watchin the last part of that PP, Carter was trying to run interference in front of the net but he keeps leaving the crease, chasing the puck, leaving nobody in front of Vokoun. That allows the FLA defense to spread to all pts and really press the puck. The 5th man HAS to stay in front of the net to keep that defense compacted and allow the PP to move the puck around.
Carter dosent like fighting for the space in the crease….
Or skating hard…
by Prometheus74 on Dec 21, 2009 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
Being a Flyers fan right now must be what it’s like to have an abusive spouse – you love them so much, but all they do is hurt you.
so dose not having a 1st round draft pick next year
by Prometheus74 on Dec 21, 2009 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
Does anyone know how you tryout for the Flyers? I have only been playing ice hockey since June, but the team is so bad right now I think I can crack the roster.
Can you keep your stick off the ice?
Take bad penalties?
Give up the puck in our own zone?
by Prometheus74 on Dec 21, 2009 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
If you try hard your gonna make the rest of the lockeroom look bad
by Prometheus74 on Dec 21, 2009 8:30 PM EST up reply actions
Fortunately I can’t watch the rest of this. Coach my sons Mite hockey team and we have practice @ 8:30(Central) tonite
Can you bring...
A web cam? They’re probably more entertaining than this group of amateurs.
This team really does suck
Daiquiris!
TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 21, 2009 8:30 PM EST reply actions
He got hurt. Puck hit his hand.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 21, 2009 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
I think they might be calling a dive on Richards there. I swore I saw the ref say “Oh you want both?”
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Dec 21, 2009 8:33 PM EST reply actions
I'm gonna leave this here
TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 21, 2009 8:33 PM EST reply actions
It wasn’t funny the first time.
Or the second time.
Or the third time.
Or the fourth time.
Or the fifth through 26th time.
And it’s not funny now. Enough already.
I could say the same about the gripes you’ve had with the team.
I understood you the first time about JVR
And the 2nd time
And the 3rd time
And the 100th time
Enough already!
TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 21, 2009 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
If i were good enough for rotten tomatoes
in all honesty, this is how i voice my frustration. I don’t so much get negatively down on the team, it’s just I find a way to poke fun at the team through any means necessary. I agree I do use this a lot, but as my shenanigans regarding the flyers get old and stale, so does watching the Flyers play. Same problems, same thing done wrong every game, and no cure in site. I’ll stop the dumb mighty ducks shit, but u gonna stop watching Laviolette and the Flyers promise the same thing over and over again and nothing ever comes of it?
I do apologize for the annoyance, but venting and getting pissed off using the internet just doesnt make sense for me. Try to provide a laugh, a giggle
Apologies
TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 21, 2009 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
Nope. But I did look back and he did ask that question.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Dec 21, 2009 8:35 PM EST reply actions
Nothing that hasn’t been said already, and clearly nothing that will work.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 21, 2009 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
It was the most entertaining part of the night so far for the broadcast journalism majors in the group…
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 21, 2009 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
i think the most entertaining part of the night was after fight one there was a close up on Chico, and he looked angry. That was neat. He’s my favorite Flyer officially. He’s been workin his McBalls off
by orangeandblack20 on Dec 21, 2009 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
I just saw a hilarious link on NHL.com. Apparrently Hartnell will be on the Price is Right. Funny, Holmgren is probably shopping him as we speak. http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=510714
this is just painful to watch with out sarcasm
by orangeandblack20 on Dec 21, 2009 9:00 PM EST reply actions
I don’t fault you for being lazy if your post game recap just says “we suck,” and thats it.
by orangeandblack20 on Dec 21, 2009 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
And after the game, if Laviolette says “we work harder” he should be fired on the spot.
This team does not need to work harder. They need a simple system of hockey that takes all the thinking out of the game and let’s them just play. Then, after a couple games, start building a system that actually utilizes the fucking talents of the players they have instead of the fucking players he fantasizes about.
Agreed
If this sad play continues where we lose games 6-1, 3-0, 4-0…he’ll be fired at the end of the season.
He wont be. That doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be, but he won’t be.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 21, 2009 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
Is it time to start thinking about stripping Richards of the ‘C’? There’s gotta be something going on in the locker room. It’s the only explanation for this team being so bad and playing so listlessly.
they should have that before they fired Stevens
by SkookFlyerfan on Dec 21, 2009 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
Thats it, I’m out of here. Fuck this. They don’t want to play. I don’t want to watch.
by SkookFlyerfan on Dec 21, 2009 9:09 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Is this what it is like to be an Islanders fan?
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Dec 21, 2009 9:09 PM EST reply actions
They have hope.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 21, 2009 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
I’m calling the Flyers administrative office tomorrow. This is bullshit. I didn’t drop a weeks pay and give up 2 days to watch them get embarrassed in Boston on a national stage. They need to be hearing it from the fans that we won’t put up with this bullshit.
Until fans stop showing up, no message will be sent.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 21, 2009 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
I might just not go to the Classic. I’ll let the papers know about this. Two empty seats in protest of terrible fucking attitudes in the locker room.
Nah, you should still go. It’s not a Flyers home game anyway. Wear a paper bag, it’ll send more of a message.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 21, 2009 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
But then we need a FLYERS acronym… Nothing can beat:
Just
End
The
Season
but still.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 21, 2009 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
Laviolette needs to go as well… he is worse than stevens and even more annoying with his post game comments
At least I played Bradshaw for the Giants…. Moral victories people, moral victories.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Dec 21, 2009 9:15 PM EST reply actions
Michael Leighton on the 06-07 Flyers team, dead last in the league.
Michael Leighton on the 09-10 Flyers team, currently 29th in the league.
Coincidence?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 21, 2009 9:16 PM EST reply actions
Yeah, but he was here for more than just that one year.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 21, 2009 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
For half a season.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 21, 2009 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
Holmgren only “dictated” the style of play with a comment this summer. Then he hired a new coach who is dictating a new style.
He only “dictated” a style of play for 25 or so games.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 21, 2009 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
I’d say by choosing Laviolette because that’s the style Holmgren wanted the team to play, he’s dictating how they play.
Mario, Do you really think Holmgren choose Lav on his system or the reputation of being tough on players and he was really the only guy with experience available?
That speaks volumes as to the level of competency of Holmgren. Especially with the players that are on this team. I don’t disagree with you but I really can’t give Holmgren the benefit of the doubt on knowing the difference from one system to another. I really don’t believe he is that intelligent. Just my opinion.
Jesus Christ…
You know the guy played in the league for a decade, one season was on the all star team, and was a head coach for three and a half years?
I think he understands hockey pretty well.
Don’t oversell the legendary career of Paul Holmgren. He was a talented goon and even Dave Schultz scored twenty something goals. Gretzky played a little but obviously couldn’t coach. Actually I am one of those guys who feels ex-athletes coaching and running teams isn’t a great idea in most cases. Most of these guys weren’t pro athletes because Mensa was an option.
Line brawl would salvage the night
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Dec 21, 2009 9:19 PM EST reply actions
I guess Lappy wanted no part of that ridiculous morning after christmas flight.
Two games?
I don’t think he has a history.
Why is that suspendable?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 21, 2009 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
Eh. I’d say it was later than Richards on Booth, not as late as Briere on Hannan.
And on the 4th watch, yeah. I think he did actually leave his feet.
Two games is likely.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 21, 2009 9:24 PM EST up reply actions
At least a brawl would give us the possibility of winning one category in this game. Because anything hockey related is disastrous.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Dec 21, 2009 9:22 PM EST reply actions
What is the worst PP % in NHL history? I think we can make a run at it.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Dec 21, 2009 9:26 PM EST reply actions
There are so many to choose from: Phoenix, Vancouver, NY Rangers, Washington, Pittsburgh…
Broad Street Hockey - Makin' it look mean since 1967.
by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 21, 2009 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
You know what bothers me the most about this team, more than ANYTHING else?
They play completely without ANY honor.
You know what bothers me the most about this team, more than ANYTHING else?
The fans who think the team loses because of flowering, intangible bullshit like “heart” and “desire” ?
They play completely without ANY honor.
Oh.
Amen! It is that heart and sweat shit that has held this team from winning a Stanley Cup for 35 years. It is over rated! Talent wins cups not determination and willingness to fight. People forget that the teams of the seventies while willing to fight also contained three hall of fame players and more talent then the lure of Bullying remembers to tell.
But......
we know richie and Carter HAVE the talent, but they play like shit. its there lazy attitude that keeps them from winning. I said before, the players playing the best this season are Carcillo, Powe, Kimmo, Parent, Bartulis, Asham, Lappy, Giroux, and JVR. You wanna know why, because they play 100% every game. If our superstars could play like them, we could be a top team in the NHL.
at least the Flyers win when I play with them on xbox
by Flyers and Terriers on Dec 21, 2009 9:40 PM EST reply actions
so we all hoped that when Betts got back, we would win. Fail
Then we hoped Gagne was the answer. Fail
Does the remainder of this season rest on the shoulders of Powe????
Ok, I have been a Flyers fan for 35 years, but moved to DC almost 29 years ago. For my own sanity, should I finally jump ship? With enough vodka I may be able to convince myself that I am a Caps fan.
ummmmmm......
I hope that was a joke, because anyone who ever wants to root for another team over the Home team is a fake fan, and liking the Caps also adds you to the bandwagoner list too, because you could have liked the Caps 4 years ago, you know, when they were like the Flyers this season.
well
of all the “runs at Richards” and “mass fights” comments before the game, I wanna say that the beating they gave us was far more humiliating.
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