Game 27, Preview and Open Thread: Se remettre sur les rails, Philadelphia Flyers at Montreal Canadiens
by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 6:04 PM EST
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#12 Philadelphia Flyers (13-12-1, 27 pts) at #11 Montreal Canadiens (13-14-2, 28 pts)
Le Centre Bell - 7:30 PM ET - Montreal, Quebec, Canada
TV: The Comcast Network HD, RDS HD
Radio: 1210 AM WPHT, XM 206
This is the open game thread.
Behind Enemy Lines: Habs Eyes On The Prize
Broadcast Note: Take notice above. Thanks to the Allen Iverson show dominating Philadelphia sports media tonight, the Flyers have been relegated to secondary status on television, radio, and probably in the minds of most fans. On local TV, the game will be on The Comcast Network, while the radio broadcast can be found at 1210 AM WPHT.
The Flyers travel north of the border tonight to take on the Montreal Canadiens, another team that is struggling mightily as the season slowly shifts to "not so early anymore." They'll look to get their new coach his first Philadelphia win, but they'll of course be without Dan Carcillo as he serves game one of his four game suspension. Regardless of how you feel about the suspension, Carcillo has been one of the hardest working Flyers over this current stretch of pitiful hockey, and his absence in the lineup isn't good for the team.
Riley Cote will replace him. Enough said, I think.
Ray Emery's absence tonight, on the other hand, might be able to help the team. He's been playing pretty pitiful hockey himself, and after looking absolutely terrible against Washington on Saturday night, he'll give way to Brian Boucher tonight. I hate to say it, but are the words goalie controversy slowly creeping up? If the current trend continues, that could be the case.
Two players that will be in the lineup and should be able to help the Flyers tonight are Claude Giroux and Danny Briere. But since we're playing Montreal, they're looooove their French players and their ridiculous trade ideas for said French players to come "home."
Cue Habs Eyes on the Prize today, talking about better potential trading partners for Guillaume Latrendresse, who they recently shipped off to Minnesota. Now maybe I'm taking the out of context and maybe I'm making nothing about a simple passing idea from a Montreal hockey fan. But still, it seems worthy of a reference. After the jump, if you'd oblige.
How about the Philadelphia Flyers Claude Giroux, whose on a steady upward curve?
Latendresse would have fit in nicely with the Flyers, or would the John Leclair flashbacks have been too scary? Guillaume would have been their type of player, very much in the Tim Kerr mode.
The Flyers, who have been spinning their wheels of late, might have opted for such a shakeup rather than canning their coach.
Such a potential trade could have been sprinkled with a future consideration clause on both sides, based upon 2009 to 2011 production, with draft picks in the balance.
The Habs could also have gotten their mits on Daniel Briere as well, alleviating a million bucks a season over a five year term off the Flyers payroll in the process, by offering up Scott Gomez. I'm not a big Briere booster, but I see him as having more upside in a role with Montreal than Gomez at present.
I'll refrain comment and let you form an opinion on that one. Especially that first one. Latrendresse for Giroux. Yep.
Anyway, that's a tangent and there's a hockey game tonight. Montreal's a poor team, but the Flyers sit behind them in the standings. It's time for the orange and black to prove they aren't a poor team themselves, and that sentiment is going to grow if they can't turn this around as soon as possible.
Flyers Line Combinations - slight changes, Briere and Giroux swap spots; Cote in for Carcillo.
Hartnell – Richards – Giroux
JVR – Carter – Briere
Laperriere – Pyorala – Asham
Cote – Kalinski – Nodl
Questions To Answer
- Elements of the slump bust: power play. Can they turn it around?
- Element two: goaltending. How does Boucher perform?
- Element three: lifeless hockey. The Flyers have looked lazy for weeks. Does that stop?
- Element four: the system. Is it obvious that Laviolette has already put in some tweaks to the offense, and if said tweaks are obvious, do they seem to work?
Starting Goaltenders
As mentioned above, the game tonight is on The Comcast Network (ch. 8 for most, ch. 201 in HD) and on the air at 1210 WPHT. Join us here for the discussion and LET'S GO FLYERS!
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Sort of remind me of Mets and Yankees fans trade ideas. Sort of overrating their own a tad, I think. Maybe it’s just me.
No, you’re 100 percent correct.
Robert’s a nice guy, met him at the draft. But it’s a symptom of being a part of that fan base, which I wouldn’t hesitate to call pretentious, at best.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
Latendresse for Giroux straight up. Suuuure.
Or, of course, Scott Gomez for Danny Briere. Not like Gomez sucks and Briere, well, doesn’t.
Silly Canadiens fans…
Good luck tonight. The turnaround probably starts in earnest in a couple or three games, but I think you can look for a max effort tonight. Should be enough for the win.
"You're gonna eat that g**d**n Koho, three!"
7:30 start time, remember.
Just enough time for your AI hijinks.
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Heavyweight battle.
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It didn’t look good, but I thought it was pretty even.
Too bad he can’t do anything else.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
Man, Riles was pumped up after taking Laraque down.
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You know what? Good job Riley. He definitely lost, but he held his own. He showed emotion, and the team seemed to enjoy it. Hope it translates.
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I’m not sure it was definite. Give him the edge, though. I’ll take it against Laraque.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
I doubt our new coach said lets “Forget about playing smart, lets get in a fight right away boys”
I saw the players liking the fight but I hope they listen to the coach
I think his anti-fighting thing is a little blown out of proportion. He was against it in Carolina because that team was just flat out small and didn’t have a fighter. It’s obviously different here.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
If not in the playoffs, yeah.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, certainly not. But what else is Riley going to do? Score? Nah. I’m sure Lavy expected him to fight in the first period, at least.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 7, 2009 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
Especially with Laraque on the other team.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
Flyers website has audio.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
Probably not, haha
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
I wish you could select the camera angle. A game like tonight, where there’s a lot of new stuff going on from a positional standpoint, I’d like to see a wider angle.
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You can already notice d-men down to the faceoff circles, if not deeper. But there’s always a forward rotating back, which is good.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 7, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, seems like there’s always a forward near the line in the center.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
We’re not losing yet = ideal start.
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What’s up with there being a bunch of Flyers/Habs fans? I see them all over Twitter…
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Seravalli said on Twitter that Habs are “dominating” early.
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WOW Briere!
1-0! A LEAD!
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hows the flow going etc
forced into watching the only hockey offered here
Pittsburgh v Carolina
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 7, 2009 7:53 PM EST reply actions
Tons of energy. I’m liking this.
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We have a long running inside joke in my house that Carey Price plays hockey like Daria plays volleyball. That was certainly an example of it on that goal.
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haha, I can’t believe nobody commented on this.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 7, 2009 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
haha, I laughed out loud at it if that counts.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
I can’t remember the last time we had a 1-0 lead. Los Angeles?
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
Briere’s gotta watch his stick. Come on, doood.
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Sixers – still winning. Believe it.
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NJ 2, BUF 0
CAR 2, PIT 0
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Place is awesome.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
The front page of NHL.com says this game is on Versus. Totally incorrect.
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It’s cute when Cote has the puck.
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Peco time, baby.
/trying to be excited
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When was the last PP goal? I know the McDonald’s PP Payoff is ridiculous right now.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
Hm, probably wouldn’t have been called if Asham didn’t sell it, but that was interference.
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That’s pathetic on everybody else’s part.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
Bartulis got away with a hold in the last 5 seconds there.
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When was the last time the Flyers allowed one shot in a period? I remember in the 04 playoffs they held the Leafs to I think two or three, but one?
I wish there were a place to look things like that up.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
Send a text to 542542 or something like that, and they look it up for you
by orangeandblack20 on Dec 7, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
I think it happened this season. Ottawa maybe?
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 7, 2009 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
We finish with four shots. Equally unimpressive.
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That was by far the most impressive period the flyers have had in a while though.
by JpH89 on Dec 7, 2009 8:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Five shots in a period. There were just about as many in Cote-Laraque.
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Carolina 2
Pittsburgh 0
Pleasepleasepleaseplease.
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Wow, 5 attempted shots in a period for the Habs. That is, as they say in those parts, le shit.
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Was that the massive comeback? Or was that game in December?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 7, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
The comeback was in Philly, so not that one.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 7, 2009 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
That was my favorite game of last season.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
Wawa mashed potatoes kick ass.
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Wawa mashed potatoes kick(s) ass.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 7, 2009 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
Ever had the potato pancakes from Perkins? Those are phenomenal. The latest Tiger trollop who works there got me in the mood for them today.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 7, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t even know where there is a Perkins around here.
I’m surprised I’ve even heard of Perkins, actually.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
Pitt football loses Saturday, Steelers lose Sunday, Penguins lose Monday?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 7, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
I’d like the Pens loss to be equally as heartbreaking as Pitt football’s was, though.
Or is that too much to ask?
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
Any time I notice that the Pens are losing, they win.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 7, 2009 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
Aint that the truth.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
I think I’d rather have them win then root for them to win and have them lose.
Or something like that.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
hahaha nice.
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Shit counter: 4
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Pfffft, technicalities.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
I love how both Kimmo and Braydon were staring behind the net, unaware that there was someone standing 2 feet in front of Boucher.
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1-1
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
Oh wow. That looks so much worse on the replay.
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… not that it wasn’t bad the first time.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
It looked pretty bad the first time, but now that I see Carter let his man go – assuming Kimmo or Braydon pick him up – it looked even worse.
Who do you blame? Carter? Kimmo? Braydon? I personally blame JVR: Who does he think he was covering at the point???
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 7, 2009 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
Boucher, for not stopping that joke of a shot.
Seriously… probably a combination of all of them. Even Boucher for not saying “hey, uh, guys… he’s in front all alone”
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
He was never sent down, he’s just been a scratch. In the lineup because Carcillo is out.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
Is it so wrong to give Matsumoto a try or someone else? I really don’t what Cote brings besides being a punching back for the other team
by SkookFlyerfan on Dec 7, 2009 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
I was so happy when he decided to fight Laraque.. . . . . . I was hoping he would kill Cote
by SkookFlyerfan on Dec 7, 2009 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
’Bouch-er" chants.
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Sixers — still winning. Believe it.
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I can’t remember the last time I was impressed by anything Jeff Carter did.
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what would u be looking for if u were to trade him?
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 7, 2009 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
There was a story about J-S Giguere I was reading today that intrigued me. I’d definitely need Anaheim to take someone else (Carcillo, Cote, etc.) and get a draft pick back in order to balance the salary.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 7, 2009 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
then u acknowledge that the ray emery experiment isnt working. Also, Im a firm believer that our forward depth (evidence right now) isn’t too hot
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 7, 2009 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
I’ll be more than happy to acknowledge that if the Flyers got a healthy (and I mean healthy) Giguere.
The story I read broke his numbers down for the past 4 years, splitting last year in half (pre and post the death of his father) and it showed last year’s second half appears to be an aberration.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 7, 2009 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not saying I’d make the trade, just that if I’m trading Carter, that’s what I’m lookin for. Well, that or another Duck: Bobby Ryan.
Our forward depth isn’t performing, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t deep. Our Centers are deep, our wings less so.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 7, 2009 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
Ugh, that was pretty.
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I don’t know what the 1 on that 2-on-1 was doing, but it was awful.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 7, 2009 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
He forced him wide, obviously!
Laviolette’s system is a failure, and that’s exhibit A.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 7, 2009 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
give it time, rome wasnt built in a day
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 7, 2009 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
Me thinks he was being sarcastic.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
have a hard time recognizing sodium these days
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 7, 2009 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
Go eat some Ramen, you’ll recognize the sodium.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
haha, yeah, I was. I’m a tade bitter and dry.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 7, 2009 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
tad* wow…
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 7, 2009 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
And that horn SUCKS
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Jesus Christ, this is terrible. I can’t remember when i’ve been this frustrated with the Flyers. WTF
Coburn and Timonen are having a rough period.
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WTF does “Danny Briere will not be denied” mean after a play where he doesn’t come that close to scoring?
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I was thinking the same thing, actually
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
Up in the top of the thread, somewhere.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
Haha, sarcasm too?
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
Hartnell needs a hair cut. Now.
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That’s blasphemy!
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 7, 2009 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
I’ll get all Martin Luther on his ass, I don’t care. That hair is starting to bother me.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
Well if he is waiting till we win the cup before he cuts it, then he needs to focus on whats going on now, or we wont make the playoffs
That can’t be right, that’d be a 32 shot 2nd period.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
Shots 13-7 in favor of the Flyers.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
In Bill Clement’s world the Flyers are also winning 17-2, Ray Emery’s been awesome in net, the refs are biased, and it’s still the 1970s.
And Santa Sacks are awesome.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
so is it the same memo:
lots of shots, small percentage going in?
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 7, 2009 9:17 PM EST reply actions
13 shots are hardly a lot.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
Every time they talk about Laviolette’s desire to have people who come to the rink wanting to play and who play hard in all three zones, I think of Jeff Carter. And never in a “he should have no time fitting into that category” way.
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The E key just fell off my keyboard.
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I bet the Santa Sack comes with an E key. And a bottle of OFF Deep Woods bug repellent.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
And a mustache comb.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 7, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
and 10 carcillo PIMS dedicated to you
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 7, 2009 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
Why do I have a feeling that in 2067, the Flyers’ centennial celebration will be about remembering the 1970s?
Heh.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 7, 2009 9:29 PM EST up reply actions
That hurts.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
Lots of North American Conference Finals to enjoy, though.
That’s right. Goin’ global.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
What the hell, the E key breaks and my belt buckle literally falls apart while I’m wearing it. Within ten minutes.
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Boucher > Emery.
Discuss.
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Boosh is so streaky I can’t make up my mind. In his career, I’m saying.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
I can’t decide if Carey Price is good at hockey or not.
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I would not trade Cote for him. Price is easily the biggest enigma in hockey, and I don’t want that on my team.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 7, 2009 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder how much of that has to do with playing in Montreal, though.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
Haha, what a terrible too many men penalty. I saw that whole thing happening.
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Holding up a “We Believe In Hockey” towel makes you look dumb.
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Oh come on, it had an “NHL on OLN” logo on it!
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 7, 2009 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
Nope.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly. I can’t think of when it was.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
Islanders? Really that long ago?
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
Before Thanksgiving.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
Sabres in 75?
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 7, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
Annoying? French? Arrogant?
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
Another depressing thought: I just thought the Flyers right now are very similar to the Kyle Boller-led Baltimore Ravens. Great defense (yeah, they screw up sometimes, but so did Ed Reed) with absolutely no rush, no passing, and tons of interceptions.
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The plus side: we’re not from Baltimore.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
That’s a really good shot.
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Maybe Japan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLt1ESy0S7U
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
Years, actually.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
Nah
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
I think that’s more indicative of team’s not having to shoot when already winning
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 7, 2009 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
I’d say no, but that’s a great point. Not sure.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 7, 2009 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
Plus, I just looked league wide: 11 teams are above .500 when outshooting, same for being outshot. Nine out of the 11 who win while being outshot have point percentages (winning percentage, factoring in OTL) over .600. When outshooting, nine of 11 have point percentages .586 or higher.
So… I don’t know what that means.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 7, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t want to over react, but I’m running out of other reasons to justify this to myself.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
If i were Laviotte I’d take all the C and all of the A’s off of everyone until they acutally play like they deserve it
I’d make em find their own way back from Montreal.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 7, 2009 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
u mean the coach isn’t gonna go to their houses to apologize?
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 7, 2009 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know if we’d have a team to ice tomorrow night, in that case.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
what a waste of a year of pronger. gotta start thinking of saving him for next year
somewhat kidding, somewhat not kidding
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 7, 2009 9:45 PM EST reply actions
Nah. This season is still pretty young, and they could get into playoff position pretty quickly if they make the most of their games in hand.
(It was tough to type that with a straight face).
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 7, 2009 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah.
I still want to believe this is the team we saw beat New Jersey a few weeks back.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
if the coaching change doesn’t change the outcomes, might not be wrong to trade carter and get something substantial back
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 7, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
This is just depressing….there isn’t anymore excuses…
by Dlance04 on Dec 7, 2009 9:47 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Ugh, probably.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
come to think of it, i would actually be happy if they just scored again
by SkookFlyerfan on Dec 7, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
I’m so sick of moral victories.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
Only if he can play wing.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 7, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
Damn, he played defense.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
Brodeur tied the all-time shutout mark.
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Too late.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
Smart shot, Richie.
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I heard Grant Fuhr is playing in an old folks league
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 7, 2009 9:55 PM EST reply actions
Richards can also get some blame for not generating anything scoringwise, but man is Carter a small shadow of what he was last year.
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Yeah, but Richards has been getting shit for not being “a leader”, Carter has escaped criticism from everybody except those who comment on this site.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 7, 2009 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
It’s easier to critique Richards. A much easier target since he’s in the limelight so much.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
If this was New York, Jeff Carter = A-Rod. He only scores when his team is down 10.
I’m not saying I agree, but the NY media loved shitting on A-Rod.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 7, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
Power play. We’re screwed.
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Why would Pronger not just throw the puck at the Canadien? Why would Hartnell race for the puck? GIVE THEM THE PUCK, TAKE ONE OF THEM OFF THE ICE!!!
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His hair took away his peripheral vision and he couldn’t see the refs arm up.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
I think Boucher was pretty solid tonight all in all.
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Yessir.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
Again…
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 7, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
And I sadly think the odds are pretty good that we see him tomorrow.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 7, 2009 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
oh no next weeks flyers pens game is on versus
oh no, i wont be able to watch it
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 7, 2009 9:59 PM EST reply actions
Tomorrow is, too.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
is this a blessing or an inconvenience?
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 7, 2009 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not a fan of these Laviolette ties so far.
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It’s over? Finally! How’d those Sixers do?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 7, 2009 10:00 PM EST reply actions
Chalk up an L.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
any flyers pessimist that claims that the world is ending is right
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 7, 2009 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
i could sit here and say the flyers didn’t fix X Y and Z and this is why they lose, but then they rattle off a 5 game winning streak and im not held accountable because Id say something like “well they fixed this” The truth of the matter is, he was right THIS TIME, but where was he giving us the doom scenario when we were winning?
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 7, 2009 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
Nowhere to be found.
We’ll see if it happens again – provided we actually win another game.
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the critics are always the first one to kick you in the nuts when you’re down
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 7, 2009 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
Aw, no PGL tonight.
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Get. Out! (said like Elaine Benes)
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
With the shove?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 7, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, but not a “George is getting married!” shove.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 7, 2009 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
Who cares?
The Flyers lost – again – yet another game they desperately needed to win.
What’s beginning to worry me is how we’re losing. We’re not losong due to effort, we’re just losing because everything is going against us.
If you hold a team to 13 shots you should not lose. And yet we did.
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Keep your eyes peeled for a trade
Homer needs to get someone who can immediately jump-start this offense. And I mean a big-time goal scorer. A proven, big-time goal scorer. Get him and pair him with Giroux.
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Kovalchuk???
very much available, maybe Carter and Coburn could pull him? Hartnell and gagne are also very tradable right now. But Carter, Coburn, Gagne, and Hartnell have to be the most expandable right now.
Well, he’s got quite a cap hit I’m sure.
If you trade Carter and Coburn for Kovy then you need to throw in Cote and a draft pick so we can get a decent defenseman back too.
Coburn is having a shitty year, but he’s only 24.
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Don’t forget about OKT
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 7, 2009 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
but Marshall is so damn good. Why the hell do we insist of bringing up the Phantoms scrubs for the PRO team. Moto and Marshall and Maroon shoul all be here right now, but we got Cote, Nodl, and Ross instead.
Don’t need to preach that to me.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 7, 2009 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
Right, but...
… he’s not a top-4 defenseman. Plus, he’ll be healthy for about a week before he gets hurt again.
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Kovalchuk’s cap hit this year is $6,389,300. Gotta imagine he’ll want a good raise next year though. And his next contract will be very long-term.
it would be worth it
Kovy is a scoring machine, put him on a line with Richie and Giroux and have Danny JVR and pow as the #2 line and you got a very solid top 6 that should produce.
Detroit will let go of oz
And he is used to that
by Prometheus74 on Dec 7, 2009 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
How the Hell am I gonna make my teammates better by practicing?
by Prometheus74 on Dec 7, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
Man, the dream is over already, isn’t it?
I was so looking forward to this season, too. This sucks worse than the 2006-07 and 1989-90 seasons put together right now.
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Both Comcast owned teams sucking big time right now. Remember when we were upset because they were tied for 3rd place in the division? I’d give anything for that spot right now.
I wish Snider sold the Flyers and Sixers to Pat Croce when he had a chance to do so.
As much good as Mr. Snider has done for the city, the Flyers and Sixers need new energy coming from the top down.
The Flyers have been coasting on the glory days of the 1970s and the close calls of the 1980s since the dawn of the Lindros Era. Since losing to Edmonton in the 1987 finals, the Flyers have been to the tinals ONCE and missed the playoffs SIX TIMES. Let me put that into perspective:
1st 20 seasons of Flyers Hockey: 2 Cups, 6 Cup Finals (Good).
2 Missed Playoffs, 6 First Round Exits (Bad).
Next 21 seasons of Flyers Hockey: 0 Cups, 1 Cup Final (Bad).
6 Missed Playoffs, 7 First Round Exits (Worse).
No wonder Mario is so down on us.
As for the Sixers, I’ll just be brief and say they’ve been spinning their wheels since 2002. It seems that every year they get better in one area and worse in another. And when they make the playoffs, they’re one-and-done.
I’m not sure what’s worse – to be a hardcore fan of the Sixers and witness an endless comedy of errors with no hope in sight, or to be a hardcore Flyers fan and be duped into believing my team has a shot year in and year out. In reality neither fan base has had a team of any substance to get behind consistently, year-in and year-out, since the days of Dave Poulin and Charles Barkley. And that is a damn disgrace.
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Recap up, comments closed...
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