Game 28, Preview and Open Thread: Home Cookin', New York Islanders at Philadelphia Flyers
by Travis Hughes on Dec 8, 2009 5:55 PM EST
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#11 New York Islanders (11-11-7, 29 pts) at #13 Philadelphia Flyers (13-13-1, 27 pts)
Wachovia Center - 7:00 PM EST - Philadelphia, PA
TV: Versus HD, TSN 2 HD
Radio: 610 WIP, XM 204
This is the open game thread.
Behind Enemy Lines: Lighthouse Hockey
The last time the Flyers won was the night before Thanksgiving against the New York Islanders. They'll go for a second consecutive win against the division rival tonight at the Wachovia Center. Let's try not to get embarrassed on national television, eh boys?
John Stevens last win as Flyers head coach came that night on Long Island. Peter Laviolette can get his first win as Flyers head coach against the same team -- a team he coached for two seasons at the beginning of this decade.
There really isn't a lot to say in previewing this game. There are a few lineup changes, as David Laliberte has been called up from Adirondack and will likely play in place of Riley Cote. Ray Emery is on the shelf for six weeks and Johan Backlund has been called up to replace him. He'll sit and Brian Boucher will start the second game of a back-to-back.
These guys just need a win. Badly. It doesn't matter who they're playing and it doesn't matter that they beat the Islanders two weeks ago. They're a hard-working team and the Flyers probably wont win without a complete effort. It's really the same problems they've had for weeks that they need to cure tonight. Get the special teams on track, work hard, get solid goaltending, and get a ton of pressure on the New York goal.
They did a few of these things last night, but they'll need to do all of them tonight. If not, we'll be looking to the bottle again before this one's over...
After the jump, questions to answer, the Flyers' line combos, and your starting goaltenders.
Flyers Line Combinations (subject to change)
Hartnell – Richards – Giroux
JVR – Carter – Briere
Laperriere – Pyorala – Asham
Laliberte/Cote – Kalinski – Nodl
Questions To Answer - many are the same as last night. Symbolism, or something.
- Power play. Can they turn it around?
- Goaltending. How does Boucher perform?
- Sixty minute effort, yay or nay?
- Can they outwork the Islanders?
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I hope that’s comment of the night later.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 8, 2009 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
A loss would be more of the same, and a win would be totally surreal.
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Looking possible?
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 8, 2009 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
Is atdhe working for others yet?
Friggin Directv…
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I’m using a TVU player link…
http://www.pcworkbench.net/tvu.htm
you can download the player there if need be
Atdhe is working now, seems pretty super.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 8, 2009 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
Always nice when the goalies are rocking a combined 4-13-2 record.
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I’m feeling a win tonight
either that or I start to quote Major League 1 and 2
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 8, 2009 7:20 PM EST reply actions
We’ve exhausted the hockey movies?
And I’ve been waiting on an opportunity to talk about ice cream with the enemy…
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 8, 2009 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
Unfortunately I don’t think the Islanders will get measles and get us into the playoffs by default
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 8, 2009 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
respect
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 8, 2009 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
Keepin on whiffin charlie, you might give em a cold
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 8, 2009 7:26 PM EST reply actions
So I was out to eat and missed a PP goal.
Should I leave?
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Haha, I had to leave the house, I turn on the radio in the car to check the score, and the MINUTE I turned it on, Richie scores. It’s a SIGN!
A sign that you need to keep listening, but Travis needs to go away ;)
World Ph*cking Champs! That was fun - let's do it again...
Hey now, I saw that goal!
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 8, 2009 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
PP and a shortie!
2-0!
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Oh where oh where is my Mario D, oh where oh where is my Vichy?
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 8, 2009 7:36 PM EST reply actions
I believe that if this were a comcast game we would hear, “another shortie for the CAPTAIN!” Best period we’ve played all year? I think so.
by orangeandblack20 on Dec 8, 2009 7:36 PM EST reply actions
… and I missed most of it. Really THAT good?
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 8, 2009 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
In my library with the sound off, and I literally can feel the tempo and the energy were playing with.
by orangeandblack20 on Dec 8, 2009 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
They were debating on NHL Home Ice on XM last week about natural hat tricks. They went on for like 15 minutes just talking about the definition of the phrase. Is it three straight goals in a game, or three straight goals by a team in a game?
Meaning, if the Isles score now and Richards scores afterwards, is it a natural hat trick?
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 8, 2009 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
I always thought it was just three straight by one player, without the opponent scoring. But if they aren’t sure, then neither am I.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 8, 2009 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
Did he get tripped, or did he just lose an edge? I didn’t get a good enough look.
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I’m enjoying hockey right now, cool.
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If we play another solid period of hockey, all we need is one more and we’ll be on a winning streak!
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 8, 2009 7:47 PM EST reply actions
Note to horn guy: take your hand off the button when the goal is waved off.
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Man, Andy Brickley has such a ridiculous Boston accent
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Carter! Weird.
3-0!
PP = back
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Man, Biron’s gotta hug that post a little better.
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doin the walk like an egyptian dance
also, is Lavvy’s system rearing its ugly head?
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 8, 2009 8:09 PM EST reply actions
im just curious because if his odd man rushes are doing work it’s a good sign
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 8, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
Laviolette hasn’t focused on special teams yet as coach.
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I just got here and i hate to be the downer but i’m still concerned. They Flyers have done squat 5 on 5. They’re living and dying on special teams like always
I forgot what this was like.
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the sleeping giant wakes up after awhile
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 8, 2009 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
It’s even weirder because the top line players are scoring. The top line has been the best line. That’s what we neeeeed more than anything.
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Can you get cake every game?
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 8, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
That’s hard to do. Bad luck for Braydon.
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Eh, you’re supposed to score on the 5 on 3. Stop em on the other one, boys.
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Hard to blame him, if you ask me. Just bad luck.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 8, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
well scoring on himself is bad luck, not his awful clear
by SkookFlyerfan on Dec 8, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
Did he lose a tooth or was that missing already?
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or a chip or whatever that was.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 8, 2009 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
Suspension coming I’m betting.
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Net came off.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 8, 2009 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
Oh totally dumb. Danglers are just fun.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 8, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, uh, stop with the penalties?
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This seems like an ok game to get it out of our system.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 8, 2009 8:30 PM EST up reply actions
OT: What are people’s favorite Atlantic City hotels?
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 8, 2009 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
Something on the boardwalk, with a casino, fairly cheap, won’t care if we stuff 9 people in one room.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 8, 2009 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
Tropicana is nice, Caesars too. Caesars has a lot of nightlife at The Pier, and they probably have deals if you’re a hotel guest. Cheapest would be Showboat, probably. Trump is advertising 59 dollar rooms but I’m sure that’s only during the week. All on the Boardwalk.
Borgata is awesome but more expensive and not close to the Boardwalk.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 8, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
Trop has a lot of nightlife, too.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 8, 2009 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
Thinking its probably gonna be Tropicana, that’s what we did last year and it was pretty good.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 8, 2009 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
can we give up goals to someone other than the rookie punkass?
by Baron De La Warr on Dec 8, 2009 8:34 PM EST reply actions
I think it’s time for “Tavares sucks!” chants.
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Yep.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 8, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
Both were their respective first games in Philly, too.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 8, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
Proper.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 8, 2009 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
The PP looks a lot better.
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Case in point
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 8, 2009 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
Giroux!!!!
He needs more like that.
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Fuck, I wish I got this game on TV because its the type I would keep on my DVR for a while.
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DirecTV?
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 8, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
Yep.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 8, 2009 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
I hope so. It’s getting more and more ridiculous by the day.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 8, 2009 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
That deal isn’t going to be complete for the Olympics, so there wont be any changes, probably.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 8, 2009 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
I just want it by the playoffs, really.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 8, 2009 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
And I’m a sucker for the skills competition.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 8, 2009 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
I didn’t think so. He came from far away, but he glided into him. Shouldn’t matter.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 8, 2009 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
Im new on here but you guys are saying that the flyers are playing undisciplined there the second half of the period but that pronger penalty wasnt elbowing and he bumped tavares and should of been diving also. We all know that briere penalty was bull and honestly that wasnt charging lapperiere. The flyers are playing a great up tempo game now and all of there momentum is getting taken away from them by the refs. the refs are controlling the game and making themselves noticeable. I dont mean to harp on the refs because i will agree with calls if they are penalties but please dont say they are playing undisciplined. Also these vs announcers are absolutely horrible
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I think it’s just how many penalties have come in succession that makes you wonder why they aren’t backing off just a tad for a few minutes.
And no Flyers telecast is the same without Coatesy.
Thank you. I understand that but sometimes the moment you back off is when the other team takes advantage. You are right about Coatsey though. Im sure you guys have talked about these announcers before so Im not going to get into that anymore.
haha, here I was thinking they’re better than last year’s. I hope I’m not just getting used to them…
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 8, 2009 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
arent they the same guys that are washingtons announcers? I thought i have heard them on here before
The play-by-play guy is Washington’s announcer. The color guy is Boston’s.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 8, 2009 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
haha, you and Ben answer while I’m typing.
I actually really like Mike Emrick. I think he’s solid.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 8, 2009 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
6 weeks, abdominal surgery
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 8, 2009 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
I’ll go out on a limb and say they’re wrong.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 8, 2009 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
When Briere had the surgery, he was out way longer than that and then there were complications. Just sayin’.
Exactly. Check back in the morning. I have a story on that already written.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 8, 2009 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, I just pimped my own stuff. I’m not even ashamed.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 8, 2009 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
Speaking of — BSH Radio, special night tomorrow at 7. Be there, or you hate America.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 8, 2009 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
Thank god for this game, tomorrow’s show may be a little less morbid now.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 8, 2009 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
Imagine if they lost again: Coach fired, blowout loss, Carcillo suspended, winless in two weeks, starting goalie out for 6 weeks… Miserable.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 8, 2009 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
haha, everything is funny with a “you hate America.”
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 8, 2009 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
Not to bring politics into anything, but I got into an argument at work with a guy about Glenn Beck and he told me I hate America. That was fun.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 8, 2009 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
They’re both absolutely hysterical. I love Stewart more, but Colbert is just amazing to watch.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 8, 2009 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
I thought I was in the minority in liking Stewart more. Always have.
Colbert’s sarcasm can be overwhelming sometimes.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 8, 2009 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
haha I had a friend in high school that was so religious of them both that he convinced himself they were real news shows, because they are both awesome, and we had to tell him that its a fake news show, but he never budged lol
Well, I mean, they do give real news. It’s just not a news show.
Half the time Stewart is sitting there criticizing how CNN, Fox, and MSNBC cover the story.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 8, 2009 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
lol, you should have just told him he’s from the “Less American part of this country.”
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 8, 2009 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
Ryan Parent gets my nod.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 8, 2009 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
Three players with two goals. Awesome town.
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Giroux!
Four players each with a pair. Pretty super.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 8, 2009 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
I feel bad for Biron… not a stellar return.
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Well, Nodl has looked as good as Nodl can look. I’ve always been impressed with Kalinski though.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 8, 2009 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
I am surprised at how well Kalinski has played. I thought they might send Nodl down and maybe bring up Legein since he has been playing very well on the phantoms
Last I heard though was that Legein fell into a bit of a slump over the past 5 games or so.
Either way, I’d rather have a slumping Legein than a “no, seriously, this is how good I am” Nodl.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 8, 2009 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
Harts has played well… he’s been one of the few who hadn’t slumped. Great assist on G’s second.
by orangeandblack20 on Dec 8, 2009 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
Looks eerily like him.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 8, 2009 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
That’s gotta be a little awkward for Marty.
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Pronger just ran Biron over. Like, forearm to the chest.
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Yes.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 8, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
Loved it.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 8, 2009 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
Hah, I like how Hartnell held up in front of Biron and Tavares cross-checked him into him.
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Excellent question.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 8, 2009 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
HARTNELL GOT FOUR?!? WHAT A JOKE.
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People still gonna be pining for Biron after this one?
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What do you think?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 8, 2009 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
Of course. Then if they trade for him, the first time he gives up a soft goal, they’ll all ask why the Flyers traded for him, then sarcastically question if the Beezer is available.
I know Robert Esche is available.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 8, 2009 9:24 PM EST up reply actions
Jeff Hackett. Get it done, Homer.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 8, 2009 9:24 PM EST up reply actions
Sean Burke?
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 8, 2009 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, did Neil Little “officially” retire, or did they just tell him his job is to watch games from the box rather than the bench? Maybe he can finally get a shot.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 8, 2009 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
Personally, I was excited about the possibility of an Esche/Boucher goaltending tandem. Then all we’d need is Desjardins’ right foot and we’d be set.
Sami Kapanen would have to come back, too.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 8, 2009 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
Amen to that.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 8, 2009 9:29 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 8, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
Richards is trying real hard to get it to Giroux…
World Ph*cking Champs! That was fun - let's do it again...
Seriously. Can’t blame him at all.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 8, 2009 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
So what do you think everybody, do you think our offense will play great like tonight on s consistent basis, or is there another 5 game skid in near future
When you look at the players who have scored tonight, I think that’s a really good sign.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 8, 2009 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, but this means Carter won’t score for 5 games.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 8, 2009 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
I saw him skating recently. Non contact though.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 8, 2009 9:29 PM EST up reply actions
Hope they don’t rush him.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 8, 2009 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
I would really be great if Boucher establishes himself as a solid starter, and makes up for a great story in his return as a Flyer
He was one game from the finals his only time in the playoffs. I’d be happy with him between the pipes again.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 8, 2009 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
He’s VERY streaky, but if he hits a hot spell around the 10th of April, they could ride him to a Cup.
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by Travis Hughes on Dec 8, 2009 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
Woo hockey
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Is this win attributed to the Islanders blowing (theyre not a bad team) or the team getting more comfortable with the system?
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Or finally responding to their shitty play? Or getting back to how they SHOULD play.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 8, 2009 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
just curious, i didnt get to see the game so i wouldnt know.
Anything is the foot in the right direction
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 8, 2009 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
oh… well, my honest answer would be we wanted it more. The PP looked like an actual PP, they crashed the net, controlled the play, jumped on loose pucks, etc.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 8, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
quack, quack, Quack, Quack, QUACK, QUACK, QUACK.
Flying V time, bitches.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Dec 8, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
Recap up, comments closed...
http://www.broadstreethockey.com/2009/12/8/1192358/thats-more-like-it-flyers-rout
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