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Giroux continues to impress

"We're pretty tight me and [Giroux], we speak French. I try to help him. He's a smart kid. I don't think you need to teach him too much. He's got everything to be a great player. It's just amazing the way he's playing."

>> Simon Gagne

When one of the elite players in the game says such things about another player, one should open their ears and listen. But it's not as if Simon Gagne is saying something we do not realize. It's not as if Claude Giroux is playing hockey under the cover of night.


Claude Giroux

#28 / Right Wing / Philadelphia Flyers

5-11

179

Jan 12, 1988

 


He's been good. Damn good, even. Watching the games, we know this. It's not all in the numbers with Giroux, but those aren't bad either. He's really come on lately, tallying six points in his last five games.

He's done it on the top line, which is both impressive and understandable. It's impressive that he's been given the trust this early in his NHL career to play on the top line of one of the deepest offensive teams in the league, but it's also understandable that when playing with Gagne and Mike Knuble, you're going to get a few points.

Perhaps more impressive is that he's put up points on the third line, where he's played most of the time. He's got five points while paired with Scottie Upshall and Darroll Powe and he had a three point game against the Rangers on Sunday while leading that line.

None of his success should be a surprise, however. He's been an incredible player at every level he's played.

In 2005/06, his first year in the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League, Giroux was first among rookies in scoring with 39 goals and 164 assists for 103 points. Those are amazing numbers in the NHL, but the Q is a wide open offensive league. Nevertheless, Giroux still led his peers, and that is nothing to frown at.

But many players do not carry QMJHL success onto the professional ranks. Take Dany Roussin, for example. He finished second behind Sidney Crosby in Q scoring in 2004/05, but has yet to crack an NHL lineup, and has been an average ECHL player with the Reading Royals and Bakersfield Condors. Or Alex Bourret, who in 2004/05 tallied 114 points in the Q. He's got 14 points in 37 AHL games this season.

Giroux is different. With almost any other organization, he would've been an NHLer from the start. But as an unproven rookie, he couldn't crack the Flyers ridiculously deep roster and he knew coming into training camp that it would be tough.

"I think there are a lot of good players on this team," Giroux told the media in September. "The lineup is unreal. They have a lot of young, good players, and if I want to make the team I've really got to prove myself."

And boy did he ever prove himself. Giroux didn't just play well with the Phantoms -- he led the AHL in scoring with 17 goals and 17 assists, a total of 34 points in just 32 games.

It was only a matter of time until he got called up, and now he's making his mark. It's an awesome feeling knowing that he's only 16 games into his career. The best of Claude Giroux is still to come.

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I love the direction the front office is going in with regards to the players they draft/sign. guys like Giroux, Carter, Briere, etc. are all players with a tremendous amount of skill who do not necessarily play the most physical style of game. In the past we’ve always shyed away from these types of players and its hurt us. This team has a nice mix of “new NHL” type skill along with traditional Flyers grit.

by njh3293 on Feb 17, 2009 9:08 AM EST reply actions  

I have been following Giroux for the past few years, and he is exactly that, an EXCEPTIONAL TALENT!! Here is an impressive stat, which you may have heard/seen before: In the 2007-08 playoffs while he was on Gatineau, in 19 playoff games: 17 goals, 34 assist for a total of 51 points. 19 playoff games, 51 points.

One more time: 19 playoff games, 51 points. UNREAL.

However, with reference to the original post, this clearly does not translate exactly to the NHL. HOWEVER, with regards to Claude, as well as the Flyers, it is seeming that this player may be a very fine exception to that rule. Keep it Claude!! GO FLYERS!!

by Dave Killer Carlson on Feb 17, 2009 10:04 AM EST reply actions  

Not to mention that we still have JVR who is in college.

by Ben16 on Feb 17, 2009 2:53 PM EST reply actions  

If JVR lives up to the hype, which I believe he will (especially if he leaves college this year), having him and Giroux playing together in a few years is an incredibly exciting idea.

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by Travis Hughes on Feb 17, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

yea i hope he leaves after this semester too but i could see him staying one more year now that he does not know where exactly he will be playing with the phantoms moving and all. I still hope he leaves. I dont really see him developing all that much in college because he is definitely not playing against the best players.

by Ben16 on Feb 17, 2009 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly. I’ve said it before, but I see the college game on a regular basis and it’s great hockey, but it’s not the place for a guy of his caliber to develop.

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by Travis Hughes on Feb 17, 2009 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Does anyone believe the trade rumors about JVR? I have a friend who was talking to me about them over the weekend—he used to help coach JVR at CBA—and he was asking about possible trade rumors he’d heard involving him. I have a hard time believing the Flyers would trade him already…but of course, this is the same organization that traded away Forsberg for Lindros. Thoughts?

by doubleh on Feb 17, 2009 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the Flyers are really high on him, but say he doesn’t come out of college after this season. In that case, Holmgren is going to get even more frustrated (he’s already on record as being impatient with JVR) and if the right offer comes along, it’s totally possible.

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by Travis Hughes on Feb 17, 2009 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s what I thought. Holmgren certainly does seem irritated with the kid and the Flyers have always been an aggressive team when it comes to making deals. I’d rather not see him in someone else’s jersey in 5 years killing us…

by doubleh on Feb 17, 2009 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Honestly though, I could see him making the team out of camp next season. We’re not incredibly deep at left wing at the NHL level right now. The depth chart is:

Gagne
Hartnell
Cote
Gratton
Kalinski

We’ve got Upshall playing at left wing now on the third line, but he’s naturally a right winger. Powe is a right winger too, so say you either put Powe on the fourth line or you don’t re-sign Upshall, and JVR has a roster spot.

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by Travis Hughes on Feb 17, 2009 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Ben, I totally agree with you, he will not develop anymore in college, the talent is not there to push him to that next level. I’m sure the Flyers will have him come to camp to workout, and it’d be nice to see him showcase himself in a way that earns him a roster spot. With him and Giroux…oh, and Richards and Carter, too. The Flyers are going to be VERY exciting to watch over the next decade. LETS GO FLYERS!!

by Dave Killer Carlson on Feb 17, 2009 5:32 PM EST reply actions  

Sadly, with JVR, the decision is not up to the Flyers. They can pressure him to come out but he’s yet to sign a contract. He is the only one who can decide he wants to leave college, and if he doesn’t make the Flyers roster out of camp, I could totally see him going back. And it seems we all agree that that’s counter-productive to him making the lineup. It’s a weird situation and I wish the front office had more say in it.

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by Travis Hughes on Feb 17, 2009 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Any ideas on how they are going to clear up cap space for briere to return or have they already?

by Ben16 on Feb 17, 2009 6:22 PM EST reply actions  

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