Gameday: Flyers look for first win in Detroit since 1988

by Travis Hughes on Mar 17, 2009 5:53 PM EDT in Philadelphia Flyers Game Threads - 08-09

#4 Philadelphia Flyers (37-21-10, 84 pts) at Detroit Red Wings (46-15-9, 101 pts)
Joe Louis Arena - 7:30 PM EST - Detroit, MI
TV: Versus HD, TSN 2
Radio: 610 WIP, XM 237
This is the open game thread.
Behind Enemy Lines: Winging It In Motown

November 4, 1988. Brian Propp, Scott Mellanby, Terry Carkner, and Murray Craven scored for the Flyers en route to a 4-3 Philadelphia win at Joe Louis Arena. It was the last time the Flyers won a game in the city of Detroit. In that time, Stanley Cup Finals games have been played between these teams. 15 regular season games have been played. But the Flyers haven't won any of them.

They'll look to stop that tonight, but it won't be an easy task. The Wings are the best team in the NHL heading into tonight. They've already clinched a playoff spot and they've scored 25 goals more than the team with the second most goals. And, obviously, they've got history in their favor.

Randy Jones will be out of the lineup for the Flyers. Danny Syvret has been called up from the Phantoms to take his place. He'll probably be on the third pairing with Andrew Alberts.

The Flyers have given up the first goal in their last four games. When scoring first, Detroit has an unreal 34-4-1 record. The Wings are a very human 12-11-5 when the other team puts the puck in the net first. Simply put, the orange and black need to score first tonight.

Between The Pipes: Martin Biron is back in the net after a one game hiatus. He's been red hot lately with a 7-3-0 record in his last 11 appearances. Chris Osgood will get his third straight start tonight. He got his 49th career shutout on Sunday and he has 22-6-7 record this season.

Detroit Red Wings Injuries

Doubtful

Player	Injury Type	Injury Date
Valtteri Filppula	back	03/17/2009

Out (IR / Out / Suspended / Physically unvailable)

Player	Injury Type	Injury Date
Andreas Lilja	knee	02/28/2009

Go Flyers.

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No questions tonight?

Here’s one: Can the Flyers get on the board first? (You mentioned the importance above)

by chillicothe20 on Mar 17, 2009 7:32 PM EDT reply actions

1988

I was not even one year old on November 4th. I wouldn’t turn 1 for 22 more days.

by chillicothe20 on Mar 17, 2009 7:34 PM EDT reply actions

I was born just six months minus one day before that.

by pintium02 on Mar 17, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Go Flyers!!!

by chillicothe20 on Mar 17, 2009 7:34 PM EDT reply actions

Devils up 2-0 on Chicago and we haven’t even started yet.

by chillicothe20 on Mar 17, 2009 7:37 PM EDT reply actions

1-0 Atlanta over Penguins. Nice job Thrashers.

by chillicothe20 on Mar 17, 2009 7:44 PM EDT reply actions

anyone know where to find a live stream??

by SanDiegoScraps on Mar 17, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions

Try ustream’s flyersrule channel. Or check if it’s on channelsurfing.net

by pintium02 on Mar 17, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions

thanks

that flyersrule ustream already locked his room – need a password (he usually waits til after the 1st)

by SanDiegoScraps on Mar 17, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions

channelsurfing.net is another option

by chillicothe20 on Mar 17, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions

oops. didnt see that. you must have beat me by 30 seconds.

by chillicothe20 on Mar 17, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions

Sharks fans for the Flyers

I’m pretty sure you understand why ;-)

There’s a contingent of us rooting hardcore for you guys tonight over at Fear the Fin – it may be 21 years since you’ve won at the JLA, but that, friends, is a lucky number.

Good luck, Philly!

Fear The Fin = Anyone who doesn’t like fighting in the NHL can go watch poker on ESPN. [Jamie Baker]

by Mr. K. on Mar 17, 2009 8:10 PM EDT reply actions

We'll do our best.

by chillicothe20 on Mar 17, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions

All things considered

This could be a lot uglier right now. But it looks like we’re starting to settle in and holding our own.

"I'm a man, and I can change, if I have to, I guess..."

by IcersGuy on Mar 17, 2009 8:11 PM EDT reply actions

GOOOAAAAAALLLLLLL

by pintium02 on Mar 17, 2009 8:13 PM EDT reply actions

GOAL FLYERS!!!!! You’re welcome San Jose!

by chillicothe20 on Mar 17, 2009 8:13 PM EDT reply actions

On the board first - omen of things to come?

by chillicothe20 on Mar 17, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions

Thank you kindly!

Fear The Fin = Anyone who doesn’t like fighting in the NHL can go watch poker on ESPN. [Jamie Baker]

by Mr. K. on Mar 17, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions

Getting on the board first!

Great breakout pass by Coburn, and nice finish by Hartnell.

"I'm a man, and I can change, if I have to, I guess..."

by IcersGuy on Mar 17, 2009 8:14 PM EDT reply actions

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fear The Fin = Anyone who doesn’t like fighting in the NHL can go watch poker on ESPN. [Jamie Baker]

by Mr. K. on Mar 17, 2009 8:14 PM EDT reply actions

Not the prettiest first period

So taking the 1-0 lead into the intermission is pretty impressive.

"I'm a man, and I can change, if I have to, I guess..."

by IcersGuy on Mar 17, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions

I like how the Flyers are playing but I’m still seeing Flyers have half their shots and near twice their penalties. But the most important stat is looking excellent. 1 – 0

by pintium02 on Mar 17, 2009 8:25 PM EDT reply actions

Penalties

may bite us later in the game, but I am thrilled we are up 1-0. Intense game so far.

by chillicothe20 on Mar 17, 2009 8:28 PM EDT reply actions

Go Flyers Go !!

I'm a happy seal

by SwisherThresher on Mar 17, 2009 8:44 PM EDT reply actions

GOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LUPUL!!!!!!

by pintium02 on Mar 17, 2009 8:45 PM EDT reply actions

Lupes is golden! 2-0! Flyers!

by chillicothe20 on Mar 17, 2009 8:46 PM EDT reply actions

damnet

by pintium02 on Mar 17, 2009 9:12 PM EDT reply actions

Ah crap

Keep the faith, BSH.

Fear The Fin = Anyone who doesn’t like fighting in the NHL can go watch poker on ESPN. [Jamie Baker]

by Mr. K. on Mar 17, 2009 9:15 PM EDT reply actions

just got in from work, real happy to see this score.

so whats been the story with this game? whos played well/not well, why is the score what it is, etc.

by njh3293 on Mar 17, 2009 9:23 PM EDT reply actions

hmph…. NJ won

by pintium02 on Mar 17, 2009 9:27 PM EDT reply actions

oh my god, they’re cutting the net

by pintium02 on Mar 17, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions

Oh great, thanks to having to watch that I missed the first four minutes of the 3rd

by pintium02 on Mar 17, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions

SHIT

by pintium02 on Mar 17, 2009 9:52 PM EDT reply actions

Fear the Fin

Is in hardcore Philly-boosting mode = GOOOOOOOOOO FLYERS!!!!

Win it however you can, boys.

Fear The Fin = Anyone who doesn’t like fighting in the NHL can go watch poker on ESPN. [Jamie Baker]

by Mr. K. on Mar 17, 2009 9:57 PM EDT reply actions

i hate the wings so f'n much

by SanDiegoScraps on Mar 17, 2009 10:12 PM EDT reply actions

I think I’m going to have to agree with you.

by pintium02 on Mar 17, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions

Playoffs

The playoffs are going to be this tough. The Flyers played hard in this hardest of road games. It’s a shame we blew the lead, but we fought hard.

by chillicothe20 on Mar 17, 2009 10:17 PM EDT reply actions

There's no Shame

To losing to a good team like the Wings. At least we didn’t get our butts handed to us by the Thrashers like the Caps did last night.

It would have been nice to finally get a win there for sh*t’s sake.

by doubleh on Mar 17, 2009 10:25 PM EDT reply actions

F#$king

carcillo and brierre are killing us right now.

carcillo plays hard, but he just makes too many mistakes.

briere has no jump, does not backcheck, and just drifts around.

World F#$king Champions

by psudrozz on Mar 17, 2009 10:31 PM EDT reply actions

Briere is obviously still not right. Instead of having him come back over and over, they should have just put him on IR indefinitely and did something at the trade deadline. This one’s on Homer and the Flyers’ medical staff if we end up missing the playoffs or having an embarassing exit.

by doubleh on Mar 17, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions

The worst part? Giroux’s brilliant pass when up 2-1 that put Briere in alone on Osgood. He couldn’t even get a shot off…

by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 17, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions

On Carcillo:

He took a penalty and got burned for the Wings first goal. Sounds bad, but I wouldn’t saying he’s killing us. The penalty was pretty weak (Who hasn’t gotten/given a glove to the face??) and was called when the refs were trying to establish control over the game. If I remember correctly, it was the second straight scrum after the whistle, and penalties were called on both of them. He didn’t do anything stupid, and he won’t be called for that much.

On the goal: He went back to fill in for Kimmo who got stuck in the neutral zone like he was supposed to. He stumbled and Datsyuk burned him. Then beat Marty on a ridiculous shot from a horrible angle. Sorry, but I don’t think Scotty would have done anything to stop that. Carcillo didn’t do much tonight, good or bad.

by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 17, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions

the penalty

i have no problem with what he (carcillo) did-he was clearing a guy out in front and gave him a facewash. happens all the time. for some reason i remember only carcillo getting the penalty, which later became a 5 on 3.

while he was in position to cover , he did screw up a number of clearing attempts in our own zone. i still think he is doing more harm than good, and that upshall was the better player.

every time we play detroit, i secretly wish someone will take off their skate and slash chelios’ achilles tendons. that sheap shotting bastard deserves a brutal end to a career.

World F#$king Champions

by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions

Syvret

Must say, after shaking off the rust and the nerves, the kid didn’t look bad. I remember Datsyuk embarrassing him once, but hell, Datsyuk embarrasses everyone. In general, he made solid passes, was aggressive in the corners, and even jumped up and started an odd-man rush. I’m actually excited to see him play this week.

by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 17, 2009 11:41 PM EDT reply actions