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Gameday: Battle of Pennsylvania, Part VI

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#4 Philadelphia Flyers (38-22-10, 86 pts) at #5 Pittsburgh Penguins (39-26-8, 86 pts)
Mellon Arena - 12:30 PM ET - Pittsburgh, PA
TV: CSN HD, FSN Pittsburgh
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This is the open game thread.
Behind Enemy Lines: Pensburgh
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Last time the Flyers played the Penguins, they came into the game red hot. Pittsburgh was reeling, having just fired their head coach and sitting outside of the playoff picture. This time, it's the complete opposite, except the game means a hell of a lot more this time around.

Pittsburgh has lost once in regulation since that meeting in Philadelphia back on February 21. They have climbed from tenth place to fifth place, and a win today over the Flyers would push them in front of Philly and into fourth place. The Flyers cannot allow that to happen.

But it's going to be really, really tough. Pittsburgh has owned the Flyers all season, even when they were playing subpar, non-playoff caliber hockey. They are also unbeaten in eight straight at Mellon Arena against the Flyers. But when the Flyers play they're best hockey, they can certainly beat Pittsburgh.

How do you do it? It's quite simple: shut down Crosby and Malkin. When the Flyers do that, they win. When they don't, they lose. It's very simple. Marc-Andre Fleury can be beaten by our offense. The Penguins defense is good but not great. Our top defenders simply have to shut down their best offensive players. Do that, and the Flyers win.

Between the Pipes: Martin Biron has been great lately and he goes again today. Marc-Andre Fleury is in for Pittsburgh. No surprises here.


Pittsburgh Penguins Injuries

Questionable

Player Injury Type Injury Date
Philippe Boucher foot 03/22/2009

Out (IR / Out / Suspended / Physically unvailable)

Player Injury Type Injury Date
Mike Zigomanis shoulder 12/04/2008

 Randy Jones returns to the Flyers lineup today.

Questions To Answer

  1. Briere came back with a vengence on Friday night in Buffalo. Can he keep it up?
  2. Do the Flyers (primarily Kimmo Timonen) keep Crosby and Malkin off the board?
  3. Do the Flyers play 60 minutes of hockey?
  4. A Flyers win at Mellon Arena? Maybe?

 

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Penguins wearing those manly blue jerseys today..

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by Travis Hughes on Mar 22, 2009 12:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Yea i can’t figure out why they like those jerseys at all.

by Have a Seat on Mar 22, 2009 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Apparently, they wore similar jerseys in the 70s, and are returning to “their roots.”

by chillicothe20 on Mar 22, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

NICE! Way to start off strong, and on the PP no less!

by Have a Seat on Mar 22, 2009 12:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Gagne scored I see. Nice job Gags!

by chillicothe20 on Mar 22, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Weak goal for Fleury, but that’s fine.

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by Travis Hughes on Mar 22, 2009 12:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Almost another weak one by Fleury. He’s lucky that was Asham and not Briere.

by Have a Seat on Mar 22, 2009 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Hell of a defensive play by Giroux there. He does it all.

by Have a Seat on Mar 22, 2009 12:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Hm, not so sure about that penalty…. of course there was no replay.

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by Travis Hughes on Mar 22, 2009 12:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Unfortunately I think Carter deserves this interference penalty, but he got a nice shove in on Fleury. I’m surprised there wasn’t more extracurricular shoving after the whistle.

by Have a Seat on Mar 22, 2009 1:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Playing without a stick is so friggin awkward.

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by Travis Hughes on Mar 22, 2009 1:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Damnit, that was text book defense by the Pens on our 2 on 1.

by Have a Seat on Mar 22, 2009 1:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Shots: Pitt 10 Phi 4, what else is new? And yet it feels as though the Flyers have had the better period.

by Have a Seat on Mar 22, 2009 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

The Flyers definitely have played the better period.

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by Travis Hughes on Mar 22, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Malkin is an awful person.

by Have a Seat on Mar 22, 2009 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

malkin trys to punch lupol in the face…lupol sticks his hands up to defend himself…penalty on lupol….makes perfect sense….how dare he defend himself against an NHL golden boy like Malkin, the rules clearly state Malkin is allowed to do whatever he wants

by njh3293 on Mar 22, 2009 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

hahaha nice. Was the penalty for the scrap with Malkin or what he did prior to that?

by Have a Seat on Mar 22, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was for Lupul’s stick hitting Malkin, apparently.

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by Travis Hughes on Mar 22, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh wow. Then let me echo everything njh said.

by Have a Seat on Mar 22, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously, that was absolute bullshit. His stick didn’t even hit him. There has to be a memo somewhere from Campbell or Bettman saying if anybody hits Ovie, Malkin, or Crosby at all, it’s a penalty.

by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 22, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice little analysis of Crosby cheating on the faceoff. Good work for once, NBC.

by Have a Seat on Mar 22, 2009 1:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow!

The refs got an entire series of calls correct!

No boarding call for the hit by Richards, and then the tripping call on Gill at the other end. Didn’t think that happened in these Pens-Flyers games..

"...You know, Reemer, someday I'm gonna own a big sports bar."

by IcersGuy on Mar 22, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

What a shift by the Captain

by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 22, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

HEEEEY! 2-0!

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by Travis Hughes on Mar 22, 2009 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Wooo!

The shaggy haired one gets a goal on the power play!

"...You know, Reemer, someday I'm gonna own a big sports bar."

by IcersGuy on Mar 22, 2009 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

No way it gets overturned.

by Have a Seat on Mar 22, 2009 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Briere made a great pass on that play to get the puck to Carter through two defenders. Maybe Briere’s starting t hit his stride?

by njh3293 on Mar 22, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Let’s hope so.

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by Travis Hughes on Mar 22, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Emrick could not have sounded more disappointed that the goal was going to count.

by Have a Seat on Mar 22, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

No way in hell that was a dive.

And it wasn’t a goal either.

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by Travis Hughes on Mar 22, 2009 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

The Crosby one… not the Harts one.

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by Travis Hughes on Mar 22, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed on both

And really – Carcillo can find his own way to the penalty box. He doesn’t need any extra help from the refs…

"...You know, Reemer, someday I'm gonna own a big sports bar."

by IcersGuy on Mar 22, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

BWAHAHAHAHAH!!!

How much do these announcers want to see the Pens win…

"...You know, Reemer, someday I'm gonna own a big sports bar."

by IcersGuy on Mar 22, 2009 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

This has been a fantastic 4v4

by Have a Seat on Mar 22, 2009 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Flyers taking advantage of PPs. Good to see.

by chillicothe20 on Mar 22, 2009 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Seriously, how is that a dive? and lets remember that one of the announcers (olczyk) used to play for the Penguins before coaching them and getting fired.

by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 22, 2009 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Biron’s been great today.

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by Travis Hughes on Mar 22, 2009 1:40 PM EDT reply actions  

He’s my playoff goalie.

by chillicothe20 on Mar 22, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. I still love Nitty, but it’s become pretty clear who our guy ought to be.

by Have a Seat on Mar 22, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

ridiculous save by Biron. also, not sure who it was but someone dumped Malkin behind the goal line and it was nice.

by njh3293 on Mar 22, 2009 1:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Believe it or not, it was Randy Jones. And the crowd wanted a penalty because the rule book says if he gets hit, it’s a penalty

by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 22, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought it was Jones but I didnt want to say it out loud because it doesnt sound right haha. anyway, great play Jones!

by njh3293 on Mar 22, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well I mean, if those are the rules…

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by Travis Hughes on Mar 22, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea that was an awesome play. It wasn’t even up against the boards. Just an open ice pummeling.

by Have a Seat on Mar 22, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy shit another PP.

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by Travis Hughes on Mar 22, 2009 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I never thought I’d say this, but I do kind of miss Derian Hatcher. It’s not like we don’t have a wannabe Hatcher (Alberts), but Derian is better than him. Plus, it was fun watchin him wreck Ryan Malone and the rest of the Penguins last year.

by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 22, 2009 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

wtf did Carle do? push him

by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 22, 2009 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Was it Carle? I didn’t see any penalty… unless they’re seriously calling him for touching Sid.

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by Travis Hughes on Mar 22, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, on second look, Coburn picked up Crosby’s stick. Probably a hooking call…

by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 22, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s what it was. NBC didn’t even put it on the screen though.

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by Travis Hughes on Mar 22, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

what the hell was that last penalty call for? 2 minutes for excessive defense on crosby-not allowing him to shoot

by njh3293 on Mar 22, 2009 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

I love that the crowd erupts every time Sid touches the puck even if it’s in nowhere near the offensive zone.

by Have a Seat on Mar 22, 2009 1:51 PM EDT reply actions  

not only that but the announcers raise their voices as if hes about to shoot and score everytime he touches the puck, regardless of where he is on the ice

by njh3293 on Mar 22, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

is there any possibility that ESPN gets the NHL back again? I know eklund is worthless, but I seriously can’t stand nbc and vs.

by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 22, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m with you—ESPN needs to start doing hockey again. NBC has know-nothing announcers and Vs has atrocious camerawork.

by doubleh on Mar 22, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dont mind the vs coverage so much but NBC doesnt really know what it’s doing. Atleast Mike Milbury isn’t calling this one…

by njh3293 on Mar 22, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I were ESPN, I’d want it back.

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by Travis Hughes on Mar 22, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree—there is money to be made. Hockey may not have the largest fanbase, but it’s the most fiercely loyal, if you ask me. And the fans spend quite a bit of money.

by doubleh on Mar 22, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only problem is that they just got Nascar back to fill the void left by the AFL. The NHL wants weekend afternoon coverage, and ESPN would have to go to Saturdays, but even then, they might have the Nationwide Series (AAA of Nascar, for those that don’t know) then. But I agree, now that the strike hangover is gone, they could make money on it again.

by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 22, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

just like how the other 29 teams erupt in boos whenever he touches the puck

by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 22, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

“A three on One and a half?” oohahahahahaha funniest thing you ever did say.

by Have a Seat on Mar 22, 2009 2:01 PM EDT reply actions  

These dudes love themselves so much.

by Have a Seat on Mar 22, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Obligatory 3rd Period fight?

by Have a Seat on Mar 22, 2009 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope not. It would only help the Penguins. Especially if Cote gets his standard beatdown

by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 22, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re right. The Flyers need to worry about shutting the door in the third period. No let downs and especially no sloppy, weak goals.

by Have a Seat on Mar 22, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

The refs let Staal get away with a slash, too. Should have been 5 on 3.

by doubleh on Mar 22, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Flyers doing alot with so little. Two goals on like a dozen shots. Solid play.

by chillicothe20 on Mar 22, 2009 2:34 PM EDT reply actions  

dammit. and the NBC announcers love it

by njh3293 on Mar 22, 2009 2:42 PM EDT reply actions  

How many times did they say “perfect” and “crosby” there?

by pintium02 on Mar 22, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

They are fellating Crosby and the Pens big time.

by chillicothe20 on Mar 22, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bastards got lucky. Still 2-1 though.

by chillicothe20 on Mar 22, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Why does Crosby get so much love? I mean, he’s very very good, but is he really that much better than Carter or Richards? Sid doesn’t play much D and he certainly can’t fight…so what’s the big deal?

Why do they feel they must annoint players before they’ve earned anything?

by doubleh on Mar 22, 2009 2:48 PM EDT reply actions  

He’s flashy and loves attention, so they give it to him. Carter and Richards are modest, professional, and dull to everybody else

by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 22, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Ovie is much flashier. I think Sid is as dull as a butter knife. And he looks like a platypus.

by doubleh on Mar 22, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course Pittsburgh is just as lame as the Mets: “Everybody clap your hands…”

by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 22, 2009 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Malkin got away with two holds on the last shift (on Knuble and Coburn), no mention by the announcers, but “another long shift by Malkin”…

by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 22, 2009 2:54 PM EDT reply actions  

27 seconds left

and now the NBC announcers can give the Flyers credit today? Yeah, thanks. Bastards.

"...You know, Reemer, someday I'm gonna own a big sports bar."

by IcersGuy on Mar 22, 2009 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Well they don’t want to look biased.

by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 22, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Biron solid, PP solid, defense solid. Flyers win!

by chillicothe20 on Mar 22, 2009 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Beat ‘em on nat’l TV, too and stopped their streak. Eat it, Pittsburgh.

by doubleh on Mar 22, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions  

I bet you that if you’re Malkin and Crosby, about the last team you want to play in the playoffs is the Flyers. At this juncture the Flyers match up really well. Sure the Pens took the regular season series, but the Flyers have so much depth that they can rotate a series of top notch players to rotate the assignment to lay a pounding on Malkin, Crosby, Green and Gonchar without having to give up offense and go pure checking.

No wonder Malkin was clutching at the end of the game — the guy was exhausted. The plan worked so well, that Gonchar blew a gasket and pulled a double minor at the end of the 2nd cause he got a poke from Lupul.

by Gizmoitus on Mar 23, 2009 6:10 PM EDT reply actions  

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