I don’t like this deal as it stands. There better be more coming on this.

We does it seem like Holms made a trade for the sake of making a trade!!! A kid that was drafted in the third round for Scottie who was drafted in the first round plus a 2nd round pick. Don’t like it

As I said, this could be a cap move to fit in another guy. Let’s hope that’s the case.

we’re not even getting a large cap move. bad trade, unless its just a setup for others?

“Mentally unstable on the ice”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVAMUI8jd-Q

Okay, I’m taking an extremely late lunch now. When I get back there better be a JBo on my team.

It’s a cap dump, but it shows no signs of being for another deal. My guess is that it’ll open room for easier movement of call-ups.

I understand us adding the draft pick – we’re giving them a cap hit for someone who, by the numbers, isn’t an elite player/scorer. Still, 2nd round is way too high. Not a “ZOMG TEH WURST TRADE EVAR1”, but I think there were better moves out there to accomplish the same.

This is the worst deal the Flyers have made since Clarke was upstairs. And even then, this might be the worst deal this club has made in a LONG time. There is ZERO justification. None! I dont wanna hear that it was a cap clearing move because they didnt do anything else, so what did they need the cap space for? And you give Upshall AND a draft pick…for Carcillo you give up a player (with way more upside) AND a pick, for ANOTHER fighter? They should be embarrassed. I am sick right now and its taking everything in me NOT to protest the rest of the season. ESPECIALLY since Morris goes to New York (who also got Antropov. Must be nice to root for a team that wants to improve)

I guess the Flyers don’t so much want to win the Cup as they want to beat up everyone else who is going to try.

Good call on the PIMs. I thought we were trying to stay OUT of the box. This trade makes absolutely NO SENSE.

And for those hoping this turns into JayBo. Its not. We are out on Bouwmeester.

But at least Phoenix fans didn’t like this trade either….

A rare type of trade that everybody hates…. do we get a do-over?

had to be for cap reasons though.

Upshall is without a doubt my favorite Flyer if for no other reason than everyone else hates him. He’s a pest that does all of the little things and gets an occasional big goal. I do not like this one Homer.

i hate to sound like a disgruntled uneducated fan, but I think this trade flat out sucks.

Upshall is a prime agitator/energy player. he brings speed and grit that creates opportunities and draws penaltys. I will admit I have never heard of Carcillo but just by looking at his numbers the only stat of his that is larger than Upshalls is penalty minutes. our number one problem is taking too many penalties, trades are supposed to shore up weaknesses, not make them greater.

maybe it is a move to clear up cap space but it doesnt clear up all that much space and we didnt make any other moves anyway.

the only explanation is that in case of injury we have a little more room to call someone up without having to sacrifice someone like Giroux.

all in all this trade sucks. typical Flyers BS. trade speed and skill for “toughness” (penalties). we have enough “toughness”. we dont need three fighters, they are useless come playoff time. we essentialy trade a guy who was a key component from our third line for another riley cote.

and why the hell did they throw in that second round pick. if anything WE should be the ones getting a pick.

This dude is leading the league in F.ing PIM

Everyone is touting this trade, but many of you are failing to look at this from a Salary Cap point of view.

Upshall would have been a RFA at the end of this year. No player resigns for their current salary. So we lose Upshall at the end of the year, or we get SOMETHING for him right now. Yes losing a 2 sucks, but we are talent deep right now, a surplus if you will. With the money were getting back in the offseason, look for the Flyers to pursue Bouwmeester heavily. Biron will be gone, Knuble most likely seeing the door also. Bouwmeester in the fall, im calling it now

This Carcillo deal is starting to make a bit more sense. Kyle McLaren was just picked up. That may have been the reason for the cap clearing. still dont know why they felt the need to get ANOTHER enforcer.

I’m a Flyers fan living in Phoenix with season tix to the ’Yotes (one of about 200, I know)…

You guys are going to like Carcillo. Those penalty minutes aren’t the type (generally) where he is the only one going to the box…he’s a brawler, and he has a tendency to take some misconducts (10 and game varietys) for mouthing off at the officials. But he is all energy, all the time. He hits anything and everything that moves…and he is my size (5’10") if not smaller…Trust me, he is NOTHING like an Asham or Cote, and he probably makes at least one of them off the roster. Give him a chance, I know you’ll like him.

And no, he probably doesn’t have the offensive upside of Upshall (not that he was performing), but he actually has pretty decent instincts and hands…if paired with Briere, he will make space for Briere to operate.

i don’t like making moves just for the sake of making moves*, especially at the expense of upshall. upshall was at least a plus on the year and had some points on the year.

*assuming there isn’t some kind of other motive

I figured it was a cap-clearing deal.

Until we took on the weight of McClaren’s salary, which puts us over even more.

Holmgren has some explaining to do.

that Moridin417 is right.

Tough to watch his interview at the airport. He was near tears. When asked if he had anything to say to the fans, he paused then said “uh… it’s tough.” and walked away.

It sucks.

http://flyerfrequent.blogspot.com/2009/03/pack-up-that-crib-scottie.html