ECQF Game 4: Penguins at Flyers Game Thread
by Travis Hughes on Apr 21, 2009 3:48 PM EDT
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PrintPittsburgh Penguins at Philadelphia Flyers, Apr 21, 2009 7:00 PM EDT
Tonight's netminders:
Game thread today:
- First period is HERE at Broad Street Hockey.
- In the second, we'll invade Pensburgh.
- In the third, we come home.
I'm at the game, but I'm on Twitter throughout. You might have to refresh this page to see new updates. And feel free to tweet back.
Here's the in-arena opening video from the Wachovia Center, courtesy of FlyersTV.
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You’ll be enjoying the game, but hopfully not enjoying Versus itself. VS sucks.
by chillicothe20 on Apr 21, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Does anyone like VS? Show us your V!
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When will Versus learn that Sports Soup isn’t funny?
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I’d say bad ratings, but what is there to show good ratings on versus?
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Good point. Nothing can out-rate tractor pulls
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I was up from 2:30pm ET sunday until 10pm ET last night. I need all the sleep I could get.
by chillicothe20 on Apr 21, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep
missed my classes today, but thats not a huge problem. But i had so much to get done Sunday night.
by chillicothe20 on Apr 21, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a whole pizza and a 2-liter of pepsi
by chillicothe20 on Apr 21, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I once stayed up for 74 hrs. I think I went partially color blind during that time. I slept 7 hrs and felt like I had a hangover but I could distinguish color again.
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Hm. As a musician, I can’t help but think that these live-person-singing-with-dead-person things are crutches for people who aren’t good enough to stand on their own. Natalie Cole included, although that was a little better because at least it was her dad.
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Lauren Hart can sing just fine on her own. But back in 74 when the Flyers won, Kate Smith was the “secret weapon.” She has a statue in front of the Spectrum, in fact. The duet is playoff/big game tradition, now.
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by Travis Hughes on Apr 22, 2009 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh man, Lauren Hart can sing! She has a beautiful voice. Always happy to hear her sing the National Anthem!
by Mitchell Green on Apr 23, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
wow.. typo. I meant 47. I think I’d die if I was up 74
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that makes more sense. 74 would be over three days.
by chillicothe20 on Apr 21, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
The second Pens fans chant “[enter name] Sucks” during a break in play is the minute I stop going to games.
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Flyers fans don’t even wait for a break in play ;)
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I meant with the organ playing.
But yeah, I’ll never understand it. I’d be okay with it if you were yelling about a player that actually does suck, like “Connor James sucks!”
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That’s just mean though. Plus, then it would be redundant and unnecessary.
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
They should just rag on the backup goalie. Sitting there in the alley wrestling his own demise.
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“Guh-ron Sucks.”
He’d be like – “Hey! That’s meeeee!”
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Hahaha.
“I have to sit by myself and I never get to play and…” :starts crying:
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Still, it’s a job I’d take. Sit around, get to watch all the games for free, almost never have to take a shot in anger, collect a fat check every month. Yeah, I’m there.
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actually it’s neon green. you must have a bad feed
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Flyers look good early. Strong keeps, good pressure, even a post.
Keep it up!
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 7:14 PM EDT reply actions
Detroit up 1-0 on Columbus. (DET leads 2-0 in series).
That’s too bad. Columbus, like St. Louis, is just too damn young.
Yeah, they should have just given Detroit a first round bye.
At least the people in Ohio get some playoff games though.
Being from Ohio, it was nice to see. I wouldn’t call myself a fan of any Ohio teams though, other than my Ohio University Bobcats.
by chillicothe20 on Apr 21, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
i was actually worried…Mason with 10 shutouts in 3/4th of a season…had flashbacks to 2003, 04…
Fortunately, red wings are taking care of biz against the jackets
Just flipped over to DET/CLB during that last break, and Osgood was stopping EVERYTHING. Goaltending experience may be the real x factor in this series.
by chillicothe20 on Apr 21, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Carcillo takes a shot to the head, doesn’t retaliate. Good omen.
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 7:16 PM EDT reply actions
Flyers are dominating the faceoffs right now
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Their centers aren’t winning so much as the wingers are doing a great job supporting for the Flyers.
Unless it’s Malkin, in which case Philly’s just winning, heh.
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PP…we’ll find out what penalty after THIS commercial break
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If we’re lucky. That’s on FSN at least.
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In his attempt to make a play on the puck, Letang missed the puck completely and got the skate/shin of Carter. Not an angry trip, but by the rules, a trip nonetheless.
"...You know, Reemer, someday I'm gonna own a big sports bar."
Ah, I thought they were calling the push. I didn’t even notice that part.
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Looks like we have “that” kinda game on tap for tonight…
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I hate to think a crucial game like this will be decided by so-so penalties.
by chillicothe20 on Apr 21, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I missed it altogether because I was too busy complaining about the last call! What happened?
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I hook or interference on Malkin. I missed the actual call but saw the replay.
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Minor details...
but it went down as a hook.
"...You know, Reemer, someday I'm gonna own a big sports bar."
Sykora was also a second away from decapitation there…
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They are afraid if they let things go that someone will get hurt. The NHL is a contact sport like the NFL. Get over yourselves refs.
by chillicothe20 on Apr 21, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
That should have been coincidentals I think.
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Those are the calls I complain about…
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
And rightfully so but we’re kinda with ya on this one…
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Exactly. And that should have been left alone, not even coincidentals. Both players committed a penalty, they canceled each other out, let them go to the wall and play carry on.
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Daniel Briere – most points since the lockout, according to Mike Lange…is that playoffs only? (52 pts in 54 games)
Yes, that’s correct. Top 5:
Briere
Zetterberg
Datsyuk
Pronger
Crosby
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I thought it was a goal at first for sure.
by chillicothe20 on Apr 21, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Toe save AND a beauty.
As good as Fleury on Carter? Probably not, since it’s Sykora, but still…
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 7:38 PM EDT reply actions
Not nearly as good especially since I think Sykora’s shot went off metal.
Still both Carter and Sykora should have buried them both.
Yeah, that was my main point, plus that scared the shit outta me, so I figured we both share the same pain.
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
“Look ma. No haaaaands. No seriously, I can’t find my hands.”
-Petr Sykora
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Can we have a Dupuis Sucks chant? I’d get behind that.
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Cooke should just get a leather recliner for the penalty box…
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Columbus is home
it’ll be 4-1 tonight…
"...You know, Reemer, someday I'm gonna own a big sports bar."
Whose number 5 on the Flyers? Coburn? That dude’s got a break
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Much like Colby Armstrong’s. That guy is asking for a rhinoplasty
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haha, yeah, he does. But he’s also got an amazing versus commercial
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
“But I came back…” it filmed prior to this season, with clips from when he took the slap shot to the face, so I’m not sure if he had stitches or not.
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
That happens when you get hit in the face with a puck.
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Darroll Powe is having a hell of a series.
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 7:48 PM EDT reply actions
Let’s head back home Pens fans. See ya there Broad Street…
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Pens very lucky to be out of there with a tie.
Swing by The Flyer Frequent. You have nothing better to do.
Since it was a goal on the ice, it was going to be tough to overturn.
Off the skate, off the stick, off the glove, off the post, and in. Just a strange goal that needs to be quickly forgotten by the Flyers.
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Stuck at the office...
I know the Flyers are down, but are they playing well? Hard to tell from just shot totals…
World Ph*cking Champs! That was fun - let's do it again...
Fleury is stopping everything so far, but we’ve had some good chances. Very sloppy overall though.
by chillicothe20 on Apr 21, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, it was looking like Fleury was playing solidly since the shots seem to be from pretty good locations (between the circles, and inside the hash marks)…if he’s playing that way, hopefully it will just take getting a single one by to open the floodgates…
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by Jordan Ellel on Apr 21, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably even “Power Play FOR the season”
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
From the sounds of it, the crowd senses the season slipping.
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 9:14 PM EDT reply actions
Indeed. I think the goal is going to have to be a scrum one like that.
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Carcillo’s gotta watch the cross checks in front. He got away with one on that.
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 9:17 PM EDT reply actions
Penalties...
Seems like the refs are calling a LOT of penalties against the Pens today…they playing that dirty or are we finally seeing some fairness?
World Ph*cking Champs! That was fun - let's do it again...
Wheel of Time series by Robert Jordan
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by Jordan Ellel on Apr 21, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Check out the Mistborn Series by Brandon Sanderson if you haven’t yet…he’s the guy finishing the WoT now that RJ has passed away (3 Volume book 12…craziness)
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by Jordan Ellel on Apr 21, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah i’ve been keeping up with it. It’s nuts. Jordan said many a time that he wanted it to be one book no matter how long it is.
At 750K words, I’m thinking RJ would’ve gone back on his word…I love the fact that one of the primary reasons for 3 volumes is that they don’t have the technology to efficiently bind a book that large…
but to the main point, I’m just starting book 2 of the Mistborn series and I have to say that I am very much enjoying it thus far…
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by Jordan Ellel on Apr 21, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s good. I have high hopes for Sanderson but it’s gonna be hard to compare to Jordan. 750k is a huge book. But I kinda knew there was too much to wrap up at the end of 11
Yeah, wrapping up storylines was never RJ’s strong suit…
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by Jordan Ellel on Apr 21, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I would say most of the series has been a ramble (book 4 on pretty much…that’s well over 6000 pages). But he left detailed notes and outlines…I’m confident the story will wrap up nicely
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by Jordan Ellel on Apr 21, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, the Pens are gettin shafted. Legitimately. Not getting calls, and getting called for everything.
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Um. If they aren’t playing that dirty then you aren’t getting some fairness. It’s only fair if they are actually doing something to earn them.
Agreed...
I’ve been in the office reading documents for what seems like 3 weeks…my ability to be coherent is not good…
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by Jordan Ellel on Apr 21, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
We’ve all been there. I wasn’t sure if it was a typo or some alternative justice system you were talking about.
When it comes to the Penguins, I’m all for any alternative justice system that would punish them further…
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by Jordan Ellel on Apr 21, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Finally!
Hell of a time for the kid to get his first one
"...You know, Reemer, someday I'm gonna own a big sports bar."
I knew he couldn’t be worthless forever.
by chillicothe20 on Apr 21, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Really? I was entertaining the possibility
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL. I knew you guys would come around and like him eventually. I liked him from day 1… because he’s not as good as the guy that left.
haha, whoa, we didn’t say we “liked” him. We’ll just get off his back until he effs up again.
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
About fuckin time.
Crowd needs to throw the team on their backs like Fleury has done.
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 9:25 PM EDT reply actions
SCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORES
FINALLY!!!!!!!!
by Ivan Monteiro Prado on Apr 21, 2009 9:25 PM EDT reply actions
if he scores another one....
i’m buying his jersey TOMORROW
by Ivan Monteiro Prado on Apr 21, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Carcillo...
that’s a good time to get your first in Philly!!! Go Carbomb, go!
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Elsewhere in the NHL tonight...
Columbus just scored their 1st goal tonight, but trail 3-1 with 1 minute to go.
Carolina up 3-1 after 2nd against Devils.
Vancouver up 2-0 in 2nd period on verge of eliminating the Blues.
Ducks @ Sharks, 10:40PM ET on Versus (Ducks up 2-0)
Anyone else rooting for the Ducks over the Sharks? I can’t stand the Sharks and I figure the Ducks will lose next round anyway.
Who you got in that one? Do the SJS break through? Or does Big Joe continue to cement his legacy of the best regular season player who can’t play playoff hockey?
I was watching on ESPN. It was legendary.
by chillicothe20 on Apr 21, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
At no point tonight did the Flyers deserve to win. Pittsburgh played boring hockey and the Flyers played uninspired. What a crappy excuse for playoff hockey . . .
I disagree. We should have won this game hands-down, but Fleury was outstanding.
I agree with you, Ben. After the first intermission, shots were 34-13 Philly and the Flyers controlled the puck in the Pens’ end just about the whole time. Fleury was the difference, he was out of his mind tonight.
Yea, but they just looked flat. Fleury was great but it didn’t hurt that they were just throwing pucks into his chest. They didn’t play their hockey. As dominant as they seemed I could just tell they didn’t have it. It wasn’t gonna happen for them.
by Mitchell Green on Apr 21, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Right, but...
… I think that was more of a product of Fleury being “on” then the Flyers being “off.”
Think of the Montreal series last year. We won because of Martin Biron, RJ Umberger, and Carey Price. Biron was really “on” more than the rest of the Canadiens were “off.” It happens in the playoffs.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
That’s a great point. I guess I just didn’t see any fire except from Richie and Claude they just seemed so defeated.
by Mitchell Green on Apr 23, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
UNINSPIRED???
What game were you watching, sir? Was it Detroit/Columbus?
No one who was at the game would agree with you. The first period was one of the more exciting playoff hockey periods I’ve seen in a while. Both teams played well. The second period started out that way until the Crosby “goal” and then the Flyers got stupid for a little while. Eventually they got better as the period went on. Then, they absolutely dominated the third period. Fleury was the difference. End of story.
My only gripes with the Flyers were the power play (half of them were useless) and Jared Ross’ blown coverage which led to the Kennedy goal. Other than that, they absolutely deserved to win.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Watching the replay, Ross wasn’t exactly where he should be, but he was covering Staal (As he should – center on center) and Kennedy came in from the wing. Either that’s Carcillo’s man (I didn’t even see him on the ice, but he’s usually the LW on that line) or Alberts’ (Who was in front of the net, as he should be, but covering nobody). On that play, Staal drove to the net, Ross passed him off to Alberts, but at that point, Staal and Kennedy crossed and Kennedy was left with the puck, noone on him, and Ross spinning around to switch men. I’d say it was poor backchecking, but maybe it was a line change? Either way, I still say that’s Jones’ first mistake of the playoffs. He just got blown by. Straight up spun around and left behind. That created the 3-2, with only Alberts and Ross back to cover.
Bottom line, just a pretty play that I think deserves more credit to Pittsburgh than blame to Philadelphia.
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 22, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
The penguins didn't won.......
it was the flyers who lost
by Ivan Monteiro Prado on Apr 21, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Versus? Yeah, they don’t know shit about hockey. Even the Pens know MAF stole this one.
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I still don’t understand how Crosby’s goal counted. Apparently if want a quick score in the future, we can just pass the puck to hartnell and he can dive into the net with it on his chest for the score.
The puck went in the net, there was no kicking motion, the goalie wasn’t interfered with and the net was on the moorings when it went in.
Strange goal, no doubt, but if Mike Richards is scoring it, you guys are bouncing off the walls.
The goalie wasn't interfered with?
I was at the game. Biron did not have an opportunity to stop the puck before it went into the net. How could he? Both he and Crosby were in the net before the puck went in.
It doesn’t matter if it’s Crosby or Richards or someone on the Atlanta Thrashers doing that. If the goalie does not have an opportunity to stop a shot, the goal should not count.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Agreed. It was deja vu from the first goal at MSG two weeks ago.
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by Travis Hughes on Apr 22, 2009 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions
But are you able to call goalie interference after the ref calls goal?
If I understand, you’re not arguing it should have been overturned, but rather that there should have been a penalty and an initial, on ice call of no goal?
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 22, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s how I feel about it too. I don’t know the exact rule but once that’s ruled a goal on the ice, it’s tough to overturn.
That said, it never should’ve been ruled a goal on the ice.
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by Travis Hughes on Apr 22, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
i swear to god why is it when a flyers need a win or should win every goalie they face acts like their patrick roy or marty brodeur! im so sick of that crap! the pens didnt even deserve this game at all! hands down all the pens should be bowing down to fleury for saving their asses! doesnt matter the pens will lose to either boston in the conference finals or the wings once again in the finals! good season flyers but next time finsh the season strong and with home ice if possible!
I’m also sick of that happening. There were a few games down the stretch — back when the Flyers knew how to play for 60 minutes in a regular season game — that we should have won based on the incredible number of high-quality chances and defensive plays that we made, but we ran into someone like Craig Anderson, who decided to have a career night. There were also games that we didn’t deserve to win but we did because Niitty or Biron had great nights.
That’s hockey for you.
by Ben Feldman on Apr 21, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Carter's Elbow/Wrist
Anyone else think that Carter seems to be favoring his elbow/wrist? Every time he goes down or gets checked hard, he seems to be favoring one arm. Have been noticing it for a month or so.
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