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The future in the crease: Biron and beyond

Programming note: The Flyers salary cap chart here at BSH has been updated to reflect the Flyers current salary cap situation. I'd recommend taking a quick peek before reading this since the numbers can be overwhelming.

It's no secret that the Flyers biggest offseason question mark is the goaltending position. Martin Biron, while playing quite well in the postseason, didn't have all that great of a season for the Flyers. And his backup, Antero Niittymaki, has proven to be nothing but inconsistent himself.

And fate just so has it that both goaltenders are headed to unrestricted free agency come July 1, which means the Flyers options are essentially as limited as the salary cap dictates. That's where the problems arise.

Paul Holmgren has given Biron glowing praise in the past couple of days, saying that he "played great" and "gave us a chance to win every game." But given the Flyers delicate salary cap situation, Holmgren probably cannot give Biron -- or any goalie for that matter -- anything more than the $3.5 million he earned in 2008/09.

Biron has gone on record saying that he loves playing in Philadelphia, but does that mean he'd take a pay cut to stay here? There's no doubt that there are other teams in the NHL that look at what Biron brings to the table, especially his excellent playoff run a year ago, and like what they see. It's easy to comprehend Marty getting more than $3.5 million from another team on the open market, and he would be silly not to at least test the waters come July.

That leaves the Flyers without a goaltender, of course. There's Niittymaki, but given that a good number of fans haven't been happy with the performance of the number one guy, it's hard to see them accepting the anointment of the number two guy to the top spot.

Could he be kept around as the backup? I'm sure the Flyers love that option, but I could see another team seeing that "Olympic MVP" moniker attacked to him and taking a good shot at him. If you were Antero and you knew that you'd probably just be a backup in Philadelphia again, wouldn't you try to go somewhere you have a shot at starting?

So where does that leave the orange and black? The current system has literally zero NHL options in it, unless you consider the signing of Swedish goalie Johan Backlund to a one-year deal as the next coming of Pelle Lindbergh. Backlund was a relatively good goaltender in the Swedish Elite League, finishing this past regular season second in the league in GAA and fifth in save percentage. He could surprise in training camp, but there are obviously no guarantees and the Flyers cannot count on him one bit since he has never played in North America.

After Backlund, there's Scott Munroe and Jean-Sebastien Aubin, two guys that will never see frequent roles in the NHL again, and a slew of prospects that haven't impressed many scouts. Don't expect the Flyers goaltending problems to be solved from within any time soon.

Now, of course, there's an entire market of NHL goaltenders out there this offseason, but are any of them an upgrade from Biron and Niittymaki?

Star-divide

The Inquirer reported yesterday that the Flyers are interested in Florida goaltender Craig Anderson. Anderson caused a bit of a stir in South Florida this season with his excellent play in relief of regular starter Tomas Vokoun, and there were rumblings that Anderson would steal the job away from the veteran. Vokoun wound up getting his job back just in time for the Panthers to miss the playoffs.

Anderson will be a free agent on July 1 as well, but he doesn't have as much bargaining room as Biron or Niittymaki. He will command a larger salary than the $550,000 he recieved last season, but it's highly unlikely that he will get the $3.5 million that Biron made. As the Inquirer article points out, though, Anderson is criticized for being too inconsistent to truly thrive as an NHL starter. In other words, he could be another Niittymaki.

Manny Fernandez had a mediocre season with the best team in the league, Nikolai Khabibulin had an excellent season in Chicago but he makes way too much money ($6.75 million) for him to be an option here if the Flyers want to do anything else this offseason, and Dwayne Roloson is just plain old. The Flyers were rumored to be looking at Atlanta's Kari Lehtonen back at the trade deadline, but is he an improvement over the Flyers current crop?

The most intriguing option, in my opinion, comes just up the Turnpike in Newark. When Martin Brodeur went down with an injury early in the season, it was up to Kevin Weekes and Scott Clemmensen to fill his gigantic shoes. Many expected Weekes, who was the more seasoned guy, to step in and play most of the games. But it was Clememensen who shocked the hockey world by not only getting most of the workload, but playing excellent hockey in the few months that Brodeur was out of the lineup.

He effectively kept the Devils in first place in the Atlantic Division and allowed them to stay on pace for their eventual third place Eastern Conference finish. Clemmensen went 25-13-1 in 40 games, posting a .917 save percentage and a 2.39 goals against average. He made just $500,000 last season and is heading for the open market. If Clemmensen can repeat his performance from last year, he'd be a solid choice for the Flyers.

But since nothing is easy in the world of goaltending, there's no guarantee Clemmensen will be as good as he was last season. This position is really, honestly, a total crapshoot. The Flyers can go with what they know in Biron and Niittymaki or they can keep one and sign a new one and see what plays out. Or, they can go with two new guys. Given the guys that are available in free agency this season, that would be flirting with danger.

The fact of that matter is that there teams aren't going to give up the stellar number one goalies they already have via trade because it's so hard to get one of those type players. If the Flyers want to get one of their own, they're more than likely going to have to get lucky in the draft. Until that happens, though, it's a less than perfect world.

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Little farther north

I think we definetly need to find new blood in the FA market. Clemmensen and Anderson would probably be my first two choices, but if I’m not mistaken the Rangers backup Valiquette is also a free agent. You barely get to see him because, well they have Lundquist, but the little I’ve seen him he’s seemed solid. He could be another option if things fall threw.

by Pondhockey on Apr 28, 2009 10:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is quite a problem. Anderson and Clemmensen would be the two I want if we can’t get one of ours back. I have a soft spot for Niitty, but I don’t think he can be the No. 1.

The problem I have with Clemmensen is that he played for the Devils. Not a rivalry thing, but how many times did he have to stand on his head? Probably rarely. I’m wondering if he’d be able to pick up our shoddy defense when they turn the puck over in front of the net. (I’m looking at you Randy.)

Anyway, why not bring back Boucher or Ouellet? haha, kidding about Ouellet, of course. Boucher is intriguing. They did sign him last year.

by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 28, 2009 10:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That is a great point Shagg,
Idk how tested Clemmensen really is. Could he deal with the tons of shots that our defense gives up after failed clears and poor positioning? With what Marty has in front of him, he does a decent job, especially in the Playoffs. I really think a lot depends on our defense. Honestly, I would say that the defense has to be more of an issue then goaltending. Marty is not elite obviously but if you have a defense that can shut down opposing offenses you really don’t need a Luongo or Lundqvist i.e. the Detroit Red Wings.

The Flyers have that potential with guys like Kimmo, Parent and Coburn but they need an elite defender. I don’t want to throw around JayBo much because I really don’t see the Flyers realistically being able to get him with the current cap problems, but someone like that is where I see a lot of holes plugged and problems fixed (. . . this is where I look at Boston’s Zdeno Chara with green eyes of envy).

I am sure there will be a post focusing on the Flyers defense next season soon, but that is where I see the make or break possibility of this current Flyers club.

Any idea where we could get a list of all the UFA & RFA in the NHL for this upcoming summer?

by flyrsfrk05 on Apr 28, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Go to nhlscap.com

by Pondhockey on Apr 28, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2009 Free Agents – This has all the players who are supposed to be UFA & RFA for the summer. Thanks to Pondhockey for the good look.

by flyrsfrk05 on Apr 28, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the thing about kari Lehtonen is that you dont know how good he can be with a good team. i think he would be great if he came to philly, we may not have the best D in the league, but its a great D compared to the one he has in ATL. i think he could be the best option this offseason of all the goalies, and hes relatively cheap compared to others.

by JpH89 on Apr 28, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Damaged goods

All we need here in Philly is another aging player with groin issues. And that’s all I’m going to say about that.

by Pondhockey on Apr 28, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lehtonen is 24. He’s aging (just like everyone) but he’s not even close to old, or close to his prime. He has had health and consistency issues but that can be overcome. He is RFA so you’d either have to trade for his rights or give up a compensatory package. Lupul may be enough to draw Lehtonen away from ATL and Don Waddell is just about the only GM dumb enough to pick up Lupul’s contract.. That is, if Waddell isn’t gun shy after the last time Holmgren embarrassed him.

by Fehr and Balanced on Apr 28, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha, Coburn for Zhitnik?

by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 28, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah.

Brutally one-sided trade. I don’t know how Waddell even thought that could be a good idea.

by Fehr and Balanced on Apr 29, 2009 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My Mistake

I don’t know why but I thought he was closer to his 30’s. Still don’t like a goalie with groin problems though.

by Pondhockey on Apr 29, 2009 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The goalies

Hmmm. If you have to choose between Anderson and Clemmensen, I’d go with Anderson. Florida is a decent defensive team, but he’s shown on more than one occasion that he can stop lots of shots. Dude doesn’t have a .930 save percentage for nothing.

Most Devils fans were worried that the tandem of Weekes and Clemmer would cost them their season. It didn’t, because Clemmer played beyond expectations. I think he’s older than Anderson too, and likely had a career year this time around. Anderson is the same age as Niittymaki and is just rounding into top shape.

Here are Backlund’s stats. It looks like his median save percentage is about .900, which qualifies him as an average goalie. This guy will likely be a backup at best. I’d imagine that he’ll start the year with the Phantoms-to-be-named-later, since he has no NHL experience.

Lehtonen is a more interesting prospect than people give him credit for. His health is more of an issue than talent. He played very well for Atlanta down the stretch this year, and he posted a .916 save percentage while playing for the God-awful 2007-08 team. The problem with him is money. If we can’t afford to pay Biron more than 3.5 million, and Lehtonen is already making 3 million, would he accept a raise of only .5 million just so the Flyers could fit him in? Maybe, but probably not.

If the Flyers keep Biron at a reasonable price and offer Anderson Niittymaki’s current salary, they’ll be no worse off than they are now, and possibly a little better. Bully for us if Backlund turns out to be good too.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Apr 28, 2009 4:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

pekka rinne from nashville? i wonder if homer could find something entertaining enough to nashville to lure him, hes 26 but showed promising numbers, wouldnt be the first time we robbed them though.

by kolparty on Apr 28, 2009 5:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rinne is their guy.

We would have to make an offer near-Bouwmeester-level-of-ridiculousness in order to pry Rinne from Nashville. They’re pretty high on him.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Apr 28, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

would getting giggy be fantastic dreaming?

if hiller captures a ducks cup would they be willing to part ways with an older, heavier cap hit in giggy? theres no need for two outstanding goaltenders, the ducks shared pennywise with us, now share conn smythes!

by kolparty on Apr 28, 2009 6:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

maybe if they took Lupul or Briere

Not sure we can afford him otherwise

by Alon on Apr 28, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No thanks

Giguere’s best years are likely behind him, plus he would be too expensive.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Apr 28, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

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by Travis Hughes on Apr 29, 2009 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Today's Inquirer

Apparently Giguere is making 5.5 million. No way would he take a pay cut of 2 million or more.

And the Flyers are “undecided” about their need for a physical defenseman, apparently. That’s pretty ridiculous.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Apr 29, 2009 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha, I don’t buy it. When is the last time the team didn’t have an Andrew Alberts/Derian Hatcher/Chris Therien on their team?

by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 29, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think they were talking more about a big-name guy, like a Mike Komisarek.

I’m going to write a fanpost later this week (not that Homer would read it) stating the case for getting him.

Apparently they’re interested in re-signing Knuble, and they’re sort of interested in Alberts. We need an upgrade, I say.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Apr 29, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah. I didn’t read the article and thought you meant just a physical defenseman instead of an improvement on our physical defenseman.

I don’t think we need an upgrade on Alberts, unless that upgrade is a top 2 defenseman and Alberts is the guy who gets squeezed.

by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 29, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ill take a swing at homer if we dont at least acknowledge that jaybou is an asset and we have a need for him. ill loose but ill still take a swing at him, i know he doesnt go out often after an intimate interview of his life and daily proceedings. [coatsy]

by kolparty on Apr 29, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, but we don’t need Jaybou at his asking price. He’ll probably want Campbell type money and if we do that, well I hope he can play goal then too.

by Pondhockey on Apr 29, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he’s just saying Homer should acknowledge that we could use JayB, even if he follows that up with “but we can’t afford him”.

by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 29, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha, common, why should Homer have to acknowledge that? What GM in this league wouldn’t want Bouwmeester, he’s a top 2 guy. Plus why talk about a guy your not going to get, keep your dmen happy and tell them how they don’t need him (even though everyone knows it’s a crock of bull). No point fawning over something out of your price range.

by Pondhockey on Apr 30, 2009 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m at the wishy washey part of the offseason, give me a few months to nurse the early bounce from the penguins and I’ll get my realistic wits about me.

by kolparty on Apr 30, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol, I guess I should be more understanding, it has been a tough month for us.

by Pondhockey on Apr 30, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed. No a fan of Giggy in Philly . . .

by flyrsfrk05 on Apr 29, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs


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