Trade Rumor: Briere for Carey Price
ESPN Insider, ah thank you...
After saluting the sarcastic fans of the Molson Center in the finale of a four-game playoff sweep at the hands of the rival Boston Bruins, is the curtain about to fall on Carey Price's career in Montreal?
The Philadelphia Flyers are dangling Daniel Briere to the Montreal Canadiens with the hope of landing young netminder, according to the Camden Courier-Post.
The rumored trade would also include a prospect (James Van Riemsdyk? Luca Sbisa?) on the Flyers' side and would bring the negotiating rights to unrestricted free agent D Mike Komisarek. Philadelphia previously used a similar style trade to bring in Kimmo Timonen and Scottie Upshall from Nashville. Philly then inked Timmonen before he reached free agency on July 1.
The inclusion of Briere would require him to waive his no-trade clause, prompting speculation that Joffrey Lupul may replace Briere in the deal. Either way it would solve the Flyers' hole in goal ... and spring Price from the pressure cooker that is the Montreal crease.
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Whadda say? Briere or Lups (I'd rather trade Danny) for Price straight up is a no-brainer, IMO, but adding Sbisa or Riemer to sign Komisarek? Not sure how I feel.
I like both our prospects. We need defensemen, but I liked what I saw from Sbisa. Though we have great forwards, VR could be even better.
Thoughts?
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Price for Briere (or Lupul) is an easy call, your right. But if I had to give up a prospect I’d say we’d give up JVR. I know he has a chance to be great, but so does Sbisa and forwards are a dime a dozen. Couple that with the fact that his development hasn’t progressed like the Flyers had hoped and it becomes a little easier to say au revoir to JVR.
by Pondhockey on May 19, 2009 8:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
so is it worth dumping briere and riemer for carey price? haven’t followed his story too closely and though i know hockey in montreal is pretty intense, we’re not the most gentle fan-base in the world, especially when it comes to goalies.
would price really be an upgrade over biron (if they decide to resign him)? what other options do we have in net? would price just go on to be another piece in the epic saga that is the flyer’s goalie situation or would he really add something we haven’t had since hexstall?
really wish we could do the straight up trade…
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by PoorSports on May 19, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dumping Briere and JVR for Price and the rights to negotiate with Komisarek I think would be worth it. First of all we would get rid of Briere’s contract, which you won’t find many people who think that’s a bad thing. Second, I think Price (and this is purely speculation) would do well in a new city. I know we’re tough on our teams here in Philly, but up in Montreal he’s Brad Pitt. Everything he’s done on or off the ice has been scrutinized daily by the media. I doubt there wasn’t a day in Le Journal or the Gazette that Carey Price wasn’t at least mentioned. And third, I think getting a quality defenseman before the bidding wars start could only be a good thing. There are some guys, (Komisarek included) that are going to get huge contracts that probably don’t deserve because they’re a top 4 Dman. But your right, a straight up trade would probably be better suited for us, but not really for montreal. That’s why they wanted a prospect, which would be bad for us, so Montreal just throws in Komisarek and that’s where we’re at. I know I’ll be excited if this were to come to fruition.
by Pondhockey on May 19, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure how much the whole pressure thing plays into it, but Carey Price is also only 21, which might have more to do with his play than being ‘weak minded’. It took a while for Marc Andre Fleury to develop.
Are there any other prospects in tier below Sbisa and JVR, the Habs might be interested in? 1 or 2 lower guys and maybe a pick? I’d like to keep those guys if we could (obviously), but I think I’d probably like this potential trade either way.
by FredEx on May 19, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another trade rumor I saw is...
Us going after Luongo but the Cunucks are going after Jeff Carter hard according to the article. I am not sure how I feel about that since I am a HUGE Carter fan but we would get a great goalie in return.
As for Price I was going to ask isn’t he a little weak minded but it sounds like from reading above that he just needs a change of scenery so I would gladly trade Briere or Lupul and one of our prospects for him and Komisarek
by The Legend on May 19, 2009 11:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, would love Luongo, but I don’t know if I want him for Carter.
by Pondhockey on May 19, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no to giving up carter
for luongo. though luongo is better than price, giving up carter as opposed to briere and his contract is the deal-breaker. briere and sbisa/JVR for luongo…hmmmm…that sounds a little more up my alley.
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by PoorSports on May 19, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
briere and sbisa/jvr for luongo also sounds good, but i really like the fact that we would have the rights to komisarek. we need a good tough defenseman on this team, so him and price is a very good deal i think, unless for some reason the canucks would give up one of their defenseman
by flyers17 on May 19, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe we need MORE tough defensemen
but i’m willing to go ahead and say that coburn is going to be that guy. not that komisarek wouldn’t still be a great addition, but if we deal JVR and briere for luongo, we retain sbisa to improve our blue line.
and with briere’s contract gone, doesn’t that free us up financially to pursue komisarek in FA? sure, he’d get a higher contract, but we’d also retain sbisa and upgrade over price (luongo is more proven). we’d essentially replace price with luongo in the deal, but we’ have to pay more to get komisarek.
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by PoorSports on May 19, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well seeing as Luongo makes more then Briere, it really doesn’t free up cap space at all. We’d have less space, but a damn good goaltender.
by Pondhockey on May 19, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I also like coburn but he is a good puck moving defender, we need a stay at home big physical guy. coburn did show some of that this year but it doesnt hurt to have a guy who plays like that all the time. Luongo has a hefty salary, i think he is due to make 7.5 mil this year, in his last year of a contract, briere will make 8 mil this year then 7 mil the following three years i think, so there wouldnt be much room to pursue anyone else
by flyers17 on May 19, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Loungo’s cap hit (different from salary) is 6.725 mil while Briere is 6.5 mil
by Pondhockey on May 19, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
welp
so much for the best of both worlds trade…
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by PoorSports on May 20, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good deal...
I think that I’d make a deal that sends Briere and if they’d do it a 1st round pick to Montreal for Price, that way we keep Sbisa and JVR. But they’re probably looking for 2 ready prospects as opposed to projects that need time in the minors or their professional leagues where ever they’re from.
by Weapon AxMan85 on May 19, 2009 12:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nope, just looking for one prospect, it was Sbisa or JVR. And Sbisa is NHL ready and JVR is at tops a season away from being NHL ready. They’re as close as you get to being ready while still technically prospects.
by Pondhockey on May 19, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
throw my 2 cents in...
briere is a good player, and with his recent development of chemistry with Claude Giroux.. Granted the kid will probably be a crazy good offensive player without him but why break up a winning pair, especially when you might be able to get away with just trading Lupul and a younger D-men. The only draw back to Briere as of right now, would be his huge contract and his health. Not saying that I would say no to trading Briere but the possibility of having a punch like Briere, Giroux, and maybe Gagne on a line together would be an entertaining idea. Carter for Luongo isn’t something I’m too crazy about seeing as I like Carter in orange and black and Luongo is good but still hasn’t got to a Stanley Cup yet. IDK, i dont know too much other then what i see and like……i’d prefer to keep carter and briere with us but thats the name of the game, people come and go.
by PhillyPhan85 on May 19, 2009 4:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow...
The Insider article is slightly incorrect. It should say “Philadelphia previously used a similar style trade to bring in Kimmo Timonen and Scott Hartnell from Nashville.” Either way, I figure that if the Flyers are going to sign anyone, they will have to clear up some cap space first.
This would likely spell the end for Biron as well, no? Since he and Briere are buds I can’t help but wonder if he’ll follow Danny up north. Then our tandem would be Price and Niittymaki, or maybe Price and Anderson, with Backlund as the third guy.
And as much as I’ve ragged on Lupul this year, he is still showing improvement from one season to the next. If you trade anyone, trade Briere and JVR. We’ve got forwards out the wazoo, and versatile defenders like Sbisa are hard to come by. Plus, Komisarek gives us the tough defenseman we need.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
by mikefive on May 19, 2009 4:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would trade Briere for price strait up in a heartbeat. I was one of Briere’s biggest detractors on this site all season and with good reason. this move would maybe even free up cap space for us to make a run at Bouwmeester. being as that is the most ideal situation it’s also probably the most unlikely.
I think we’d be in great shape if we can swing a trade for Price and Komisarek while dumping Briere’s salary at the same time. that being said I really dont want to see the Flyers resorting to their old ways and trading good young players (JVR Sbisa) for immiediate fixes. If we traded one of those two for Bouwmeester or Chris Pronger I’d be happy but otherwise we should try to hold onto them.
adressing the Luongo rumors in this thread…that really doesnt make any sense. The Canucks were one of the best teams in the NHL this season, why would they trade their elite goaltender?
I think the Flyers are much better off going for an upgrade in goal and a good defenseman as opposed to mortgaging it all for an elite goaltender (Luongo). the goaltending position is just such a crap shoot. look at a guy like J.S. Giguerre. he went from being the best goaltender in the game making 7.5 mil or something to not even being good enough to start on his own team.
by njh3293 on May 19, 2009 5:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree with all of that except for:
If we traded one of those two for Bouwmeester or Chris Pronger I’d be happy but otherwise we should try to hold onto them.
Pronger is so old that a trade for him would be exactly what you condemned (rightly) earlier in your paragraph.
by Geoff Detweiler on May 19, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pronger is so old that a trade for him would be exactly what you condemned (rightly) earlier in your paragraph.
ok lol I’ll admit, I’ve had a large man-crush on Chris Pronger for some time now (maybe its the fact that I can’t lose with the Ducks in NHL 09) and I would love to see him in the orange and black.
yeah he’s old, expensive, last year of his deal, etc. but He’s also a proven champion who has shown no signs of slowing down. he’s the physical presence that we need on the blue line and he’s also an excellent passer. Bottom line is he’s still one of the most dominant D-men in the NHL and If we could make it work I think he’d be a great fit for us.
by njh3293 on May 19, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, man-crushes are understandable, and I too wanted him in Philly when Edmonton was shipping him out.
Jones for Pronger, deal. Any Phantom for Pronger, deal. But Sbisa or JVR, no. Too much mortgage for me.
by Geoff Detweiler on May 19, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, but....
I cringe every time I read Bouwmeester’s name. He’s a pipe dream that will never, ever happen. We can’t fit him under the cap right now unless you don’t plan on signing anyone else this summer and if we do one of these trades then our cap won’t change much and if anything will shirk even more. Briere (6.5 mil cap hit) for Price (2.2 mil cap hit) and Komasirek (~4 to 5 mil cap hit), or Carter (5 mil cap hit) for Luongo (6.75 cap hit). And in all honesty we have a pretty good defensive roster to begin with. We have top 4 defensive talent in Timmonen, Coburn, Sbisa, and Parent. Carle and Alberts (if he’s resigned) are very capable d-men and if we get Komasirek that’ll be another quality top 4 dman. Would I want Bouwmeester on the Flyers, hell yes, without a doubt. Would I put all my eggs in one basket trying to attain him, sending off more players (salaries) to get him? No. I don’t think breaking up more of this team to get this guy would be in the best intrest for them. We wouldn’t be able to resign Knuble or Alberts, we wouldn’t be able to sign a #1 goalie (not even Biron) and again we’d have another season filled with sending quality players to the minors/juniors, or putting guys on waivers, or making salary dump trades at the deadline that would in the end hurt the teams chemistry like it did this year. Just using last year as an example, Brian Campbell was last years “jewel” of FA defenseman and he’s got a cap hit of over 7 mil. Where do you see the Flyers finding more then 7 mil to offer this guy?
by Pondhockey on May 20, 2009 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with the general consensus
Price and Komisarek for Briere and JVR. I take that.
But if this trade happens, the Flyers need to sign a Kevin Weekes-type guy to a one year deal. Price can and should be very, very good for a very, very long time. But he’s 21 (he’ll be 22 in August) and as “I’d just like to thank my hands for being so good” said, MAF took awhile to become the series thief that he is. Kid needs time and support. Pitt handled MAF very well – sending him back to the AHL both to get the next #1 pick and to keep the pressure off – and Price needs something similar. Bring in a Weekes-type and take some pressure off Price. Yeah, Weekes sucks. But he can start 30-35 games and give you a chance to win about 25-30 of them.
Second, Komisarek for JVR is fine with me. We obviously don’t need another forward since we have 5 of our 6 25-goal scorers returning and Giroux a full-time NHL guy now. Plus, we keep Sbisa, sign Komisarek, let Alberts go (or sign him to be an as-needed guy) and unload Jones. We then have a solid Top 6 on D. Yeah, it hurts to trade away a #2 overall, but to get a 21 yr old keeper AND unload a 3rd line center making $6.5 million, and it’s a deal.
by Geoff Detweiler on May 19, 2009 6:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I really don't want to trade JVR
I’d prefer spending a little extra $$ on FA to get Komisarek than to trade JVR. If that means sending Briere + Kevin Marshall + Jakob Ericsson + 2nd round pick or something, that’s fine. But JVR is a guy that is going to dominate within a year or two. Forwards are a dime a dozen, superstars are not.
It boils down to whether or not you agree about his potential. But, if you DO believe (as I do) that Riemer can be LeClair with more speed, or Rick Nash, it’s simply irresponsible to trade him for a goalie that is coming off a bad year. Don’t get me wrong, I’d be unbelievably ecstatic if we got Carey Price in Philly. If we trade JVR to have that happen, though, my happiness falls from ecstasy to nervous excitement. We’re better this year, Price isn’t much older than Riemer and has as much potential at goalie as JVR has at LW/C, but if we can get him without giving up JVR, all the better. Price for Briere immediately gives us the best team talent-per-year-of-age in the NHL, and frees up the cap space to allow us to pursue a top FA defenseman and replacement 3rd line center.
If we trade Lupul + Briere, even, then we suddenly have a spot for Giroux on the 2nd line with Carter and Hartnell (drool), although that would suddenly leave our team with a huge dropoff. We’d lose the offensive depth we had this past year, in exchange for an elite, young, cheap goaltender who could fill that spot for the next 15 years and even outdo Hextall, and another very good defender. Perhaps Powe could center a 3rd line with Asham on the RW and Carcillo on the LW, but to me that’s a 4th line masquerading as a 3rd. Carcillo, Asham, and Powe are each guys that can play on the 3rd line capably, but would really need some offensive skill players surrounding them to make them at all dangerous.
The FA market features a few choice guys. Lupul + Briere – Price = $8m in cap space. We could, therefore, probably go for a guy like Mike Cammalleri (likely to make $5m annual), or go for a cheaper (but older and less offensively skilled) defensive whiz like Todd Marchant or Rob Niedermayer. Stephane Yelle seems to be a great defender, and is only 27 and made under $1m this past season.
If you’re happy with Powe centering, RW FAs that fit our price range for a 3rd line RW ($1-2.5m) include guys like Petr Sykora and Radek Dvorak. LW has guys like Mark Bell, Ruslan Fedotenko, Taylor Pyatt. Maybe you bring up JVR right away and hope he can catch up to the NHL real f’n fast. Maybe you trade Parent for some LW help or something. The FA season this year, as a whole, seems to drop off kinda quick in talent — it might not be the best season to butcher offensive depth for goalie and defensive help.
All the same, I’d love to see Price in Flyers O&B. Hopefully the price (pun?) isn’t too steep.
by Alon on May 21, 2009 1:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’d like to see the Flyers add some more grit to their third line. a defensive minded player such as the aformentioned Rob Niedermayer or Mike Grier would be a nice fit here. I think the overall theme of this off-season needs to be stopping the other team from scoring. As great as scoring depth is, I think this years playoffs have showed us how defense is more important. Look at the San Jose-Anaheim series. the Sharks have one of the deepest most skilled teams in the NHL but they were whipped around by the physical defensive minded Ducks. Now I know the Sharks choke every post-season and the Ducks were a lot better then their record but nonetheless…Theres no question the Sharks were the better more talented team but they lost because the Ducks had arguably the best Defensive corps in the NHL.
by njh3293 on May 21, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the fact Getzlaf’s line was unstopable, but I do agree, the Flyers need to be a better defensive team. They were tied for 25th in the league on shots against and in the middle of the pack for GA/G at 16th. I think getting some better defensive forwards on the 3rd and 4th line would be a good idea, but also good team defense is about hard work and discipline. I think the best way to improve on that for next season would be for Stevens to put a higher emphasis on team defense or maybe try and tinker (or overhaul) with the defensive strategy.
by Pondhockey on May 21, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Price, ugh!
No way! I’m a closet Montreal fan in Philaburbia, and I just have refused to watch them since he has been their goalie…..He’s overrated…and of course, if he can’t take the pressure, then why would we want him? (Ken Dryden did fine as a rookie…)….Nitty- gotta go….Marty, if we’ve got a shot, we need to bolster the D….if we go shoppping for a goalie, get someone who has won a cup, and bring up a kid from the minors…and could we please get someone who stands up and faces the shooter instead of these guys who fall, don’t get up, and turn their back to the play!!!! Jacques Plante is turning in his grave everytime these floppers take the ice to imitate a goaltender!!!! NO PRICE IN PHILLY!!!!
by DoubleZeroNetminder on May 21, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Comparing him to Dryden?
That’s just unfair. It’s not fair to compare any goalie to dryden. Price is still very young with time to develop and mature. And how many Cup winning goalies are there on the market? There are 6 goalies currently playing with a cup and Giguere, Turco and Khabibulin are the only ones who might be on the market. 32 year old Giguere coming off his worst season and wasn’t even a playoff starter this year with a $6 mil cap hit. 36 year old Khabibulin who is a UFA, but a $7 mil UFA. And 33 year old Turco coming off one of his worst seasons (whether it was team injuries or him I’m can’t say for sure) with a $6.7 mil cap hit. Now maybe your right and Price is a bum, but he’s 21 with a lot of potential, only comes with a $2.2 mil cap hit, plus we’ll get the right’s to go into conversations with a pretty good defenseman in Komasirek. And the other great thing, if he doesn’t work out next season we can get rid of him, he’ll be an RFA after the season so it’ll be up to the Flyers on what they want to do with him. Not to mention we’ll get to dump either Briere (6.5 mil) or Lupul’s (4.25 mil) salary in the process. To me that’s a pretty good risk/reward ratio.
by Pondhockey on May 22, 2009 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO.
i don’t want carey price, especially for JVR and briere. Hell no. JVR’s best years are ahead of him at a cheap price, and Briere has got some fire left in him, I want to unload his contract but not for price, just no. We need blueline, not another heralded number one goalie besides fleury to suck hard on the expectations. at least briere can generate consistency on offense, hurt or not.
by kolparty on May 23, 2009 2:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
at least briere can generate consistency on offense, hurt or not.
I wouldnt call Briere consistent by any stretch unless your referring to consistently injured. Sure he can get hot and put up points in bunches, but he’s also pioneered the amazing disapearing magic trick in which he makes himself invisible for two weeks worth of games.
by njh3293 on May 23, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With the trade we’d be able to get Komasirek. Means our d would look like (in no particular order) Timmonen, Coburn, Carle, Parent, Sbisa, and Komiserak. Not really a bad top 6 if you ask me.
by Pondhockey on May 26, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The latest trade rumors involving the Flyers have either Danny Briere or Joffrey Lupul and a top prospect (either James Van Riemsdyk, Luca Sbisa or a 2009 first-round pick) headed to Montreal for goaltender Carey Price and the rights to defenseman Mike Komisarek
This was the first time I actually looked at the Camden Courier-Post article. If the “top prospect” on our end is just a 1st round pick, I like this trade exponentially more.
by FredEx on May 24, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
briere for price
I absolutely love it!!!! also get rid of lupul beleive me it’s the right move!!!!
by dirkhead on Jun 9, 2009 10:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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