Should the Flyers trade JVR?
Here is a list of the number 2 overall picks over the last 10 years with that in mind should the Flyers trade James Van Riemsdyk at the upcoming draft?
1998) David Legwand - NSH
1999) Daniel Sedin - VAN
2000) Dany Heatley - ATL
2001) Jason Spezza - OTT
2002) Kari Lehtonen - ATL
2003) Eric Staal - CAR
2004) Evgeni Malkin - PIT
2005) Bobby Ryan - ANA
2006) Jordan Staal - PIT
2007) James Van Riemsdyk - PHI
2008) Drew Doughty - LAK
Here is a link to highlight some of his potential.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq1XIwykvJ8
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at this point its not a good idea. Trading JVR clears no salary and it just means the flyers are trading yet another top prospect before he has a chance to prove his worth.
I think JVR just needs to be put on the backburner by the fans and the front office. Let him spend the season in the minors and prepare himself for the NHL. by calling for him to be traded or called up to the Flyers we are just filling his 21 year old head with even more distractions than one already has at that age. JVR could be a great player or he could be a flop. regardless, we won’t know the answer for atleast 2-3 seasons. Leave JVR to hone his skills with the phantoms before we ask him to help the team either as a player or as trade bait.
i think trading JVR would be a horrible idea. He’s an excellent player, and as was mentioned in another post, JVR plays in front of the net like a Knuble or a LeClair, which you’re going to need down the road to replace Knuble on your PP. Kid just needs to spend some time with John Paddock down at the Phantoms, just like Giroux did, and he’ll be just fine for the Flyguys
…and FredEx, great reference to Bobby Ryan. The kid is incredible. 31goals, 57 points, 64 games played…had 5 goals and 2 assists in 13 playoff games
"That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box" -Sheldon Brown after lighting up Reggie Bush
by Beast of the East on Jun 19, 2009 10:03 PM EDT reply actions
Trading JVR
If and only if he fails to impress during training camp, pre-season, and up to the trading deadline would I consider trading JVR. He has line 1 all-star potential. He can play C and LW. He’s a 2-way player with excellent size and yet excellent speed and puck control. The kid’s gooood.
If we trade him, it’s basically mortgaging our future, because make no mistake — we’re not going to be able, financially, to keep Briere, Timonen, Richards, Gagne, Carter, Coburn, Parent, Lupul, Carle, Hartnell, and Giroux as is — not even taking into account the pay raises scheduled for: Giroux, Parent, Sbisa, Powe, Coburn, and whatever goalies we get this year. That’s just too many top-heavy players. Take Briere outta the equation, and our cap problem almost completely evaporates — add Lupul or Hartnell, and our cap is suddenly an asset. Trade Timonen + Briere, and Bouwmeester signs with us because we offer him an extra $2m more than anyone else can. My point is is that we’ve got a lotta cap space in a few players, which is okay because none of those players are albatrosses (except Randy Jones) production wise, but it will become impossible to resign our young stars who will need a new contract in the next 2 to 3 years unless we shake up some of our more significant contracts.
That’s where JVR comes in. If we do have to shake up those significant contracts, we may not be getting equal value in return, since they’re significant contracts (except Carter/Richards, but I don’t think we’re going to let anyone get anywhere close to either of those two). JVR types can come in and mitigate those losses. Or, if we’re targetting a specific young elite player and the team needs Briere but wants a little more (let’s say, for the heck of it, we want Derrick Brassard real bad, or Steve Mason, or a Nikita Filatov to name 3 Blue Jackets), we’d be able to dangle a JVR type or another player less good whose loss JVR + the new guy would mitigate.
Think of it in football terms. You never see teams giving up their elite young players or even their projects with a ton of talent. Those are the guys you place your bets on, sign long-term for under-market, and get elated when you see them perform at $5m annual when they would get $7-8m on the open market (Carter/Richards). Sometimes you lose a bet (Jones), but if you’ll look at teams like the Red Wings, what you’ll find is that it’s crucial to sign these guys long-term when they’re young, and the trick lies in evaluating who these players are. Hopefully, JVR will be one of them. We have about 2 years to find out.
unfortunately
JVR will be slow on the developing stage but the flyers have the players now to afford the time it will take to turn a pimply faced boy into a stud flyer…
i say no…
Keep Him
He is probably another year from truly making the squad. He has some things he needs to work on. Unless we have a glut of injuries I would not want to shoe-horn him into the Flyers. Just cause Giroux was able to do it so well it doesn’t mean JVR will. With our cap issues he may be a very welcome addition in 2010/11 without losing a player or throwing big money at a FA.
don't do it
kid has been good versus the best competition in the world. you gotta keep the kid, he will be the perfect linemate for giroux in a couple of years. plus we could trade someone(lupul of danny b) and he could potentially fill their void without killing the cap
by asmallvictory31 on Jun 26, 2009 11:58 AM EDT reply actions

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