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Should the Flyers trade JVR?

Here is a list of the number 2 overall picks over the last 10 years with that in mind should the Flyers trade James Van Riemsdyk at the upcoming draft?

1998) David Legwand - NSH

1999)  Daniel Sedin - VAN

2000) Dany Heatley - ATL

2001) Jason Spezza - OTT

2002) Kari Lehtonen - ATL

2003)  Eric Staal - CAR

2004) Evgeni Malkin - PIT

2005) Bobby Ryan - ANA

2006) Jordan Staal - PIT

2007) James Van Riemsdyk - PHI 

2008) Drew Doughty - LAK

Here is a link to highlight some of his potential. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq1XIwykvJ8

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Trade JVR?
Yes
53 votes
No
301 votes

354 votes | Poll has closed

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at this point its not a good idea. Trading JVR clears no salary and it just means the flyers are trading yet another top prospect before he has a chance to prove his worth.

I think JVR just needs to be put on the backburner by the fans and the front office. Let him spend the season in the minors and prepare himself for the NHL. by calling for him to be traded or called up to the Flyers we are just filling his 21 year old head with even more distractions than one already has at that age. JVR could be a great player or he could be a flop. regardless, we won’t know the answer for atleast 2-3 seasons. Leave JVR to hone his skills with the phantoms before we ask him to help the team either as a player or as trade bait.

by njh3293 on Jun 19, 2009 3:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We better be getting someone really legit if we trade JVR (and Bouwmeester’s rights don’t count) Give the man the some time. Bobby Ryan just scored over 30 goals this season, which was his first season. I don’t think it was a full season either.

by FredEx on Jun 19, 2009 5:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i think trading JVR would be a horrible idea. He’s an excellent player, and as was mentioned in another post, JVR plays in front of the net like a Knuble or a LeClair, which you’re going to need down the road to replace Knuble on your PP. Kid just needs to spend some time with John Paddock down at the Phantoms, just like Giroux did, and he’ll be just fine for the Flyguys

…and FredEx, great reference to Bobby Ryan. The kid is incredible. 31goals, 57 points, 64 games played…had 5 goals and 2 assists in 13 playoff games

"That collision, I ­didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box" -Sheldon Brown after lighting up Reggie Bush

by Beast of the East on Jun 19, 2009 10:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Trading JVR

If and only if he fails to impress during training camp, pre-season, and up to the trading deadline would I consider trading JVR. He has line 1 all-star potential. He can play C and LW. He’s a 2-way player with excellent size and yet excellent speed and puck control. The kid’s gooood.

 If we trade him, it’s basically mortgaging our future, because make no mistake — we’re not going to be able, financially, to keep Briere, Timonen, Richards, Gagne, Carter, Coburn, Parent, Lupul, Carle, Hartnell, and Giroux as is — not even taking into account the pay raises scheduled for: Giroux, Parent, Sbisa, Powe, Coburn, and whatever goalies we get this year. That’s just too many top-heavy players. Take Briere outta the equation, and our cap problem almost completely evaporates — add Lupul or Hartnell, and our cap is suddenly an asset. Trade Timonen + Briere, and Bouwmeester signs with us because we offer him an extra $2m more than anyone else can. My point is is that we’ve got a lotta cap space in a few players, which is okay because none of those players are albatrosses (except Randy Jones) production wise, but it will become impossible to resign our young stars who will need a new contract in the next 2 to 3 years unless we shake up some of our more significant contracts.

That’s where JVR comes in. If we do have to shake up those significant contracts, we may not be getting equal value in return, since they’re significant contracts (except Carter/Richards, but I don’t think we’re going to let anyone get anywhere close to either of those two). JVR types can come in and mitigate those losses. Or, if we’re targetting a specific young elite player and the team needs Briere but wants a little more (let’s say, for the heck of it, we want Derrick Brassard real bad, or Steve Mason, or a Nikita Filatov to name 3 Blue Jackets), we’d be able to dangle a JVR type or another player less good whose loss JVR + the new guy would mitigate.

Think of it in football terms. You never see teams giving up their elite young players or even their projects with a ton of talent. Those are the guys you place your bets on, sign long-term for under-market, and get elated when you see them perform at $5m annual when they would get $7-8m on the open market (Carter/Richards). Sometimes you lose a bet (Jones), but if you’ll look at teams like the Red Wings, what you’ll find is that it’s crucial to sign these guys long-term when they’re young, and the trick lies in evaluating who these players are. Hopefully, JVR will be one of them. We have about 2 years to find out.

by Alon on Jun 20, 2009 10:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

unfortunately

JVR will be slow on the developing stage but the flyers have the players now to afford the time it will take to turn a pimply faced boy into a stud flyer…

i say no…

by fitzy first on Jun 23, 2009 12:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Keep Him

He is probably another year from truly making the squad. He has some things he needs to work on. Unless we have a glut of injuries I would not want to shoe-horn him into the Flyers. Just cause Giroux was able to do it so well it doesn’t mean JVR will. With our cap issues he may be a very welcome addition in 2010/11 without losing a player or throwing big money at a FA.

by boknows71 on Jun 25, 2009 12:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

don't do it

kid has been good versus the best competition in the world. you gotta keep the kid, he will be the perfect linemate for giroux in a couple of years. plus we could trade someone(lupul of danny b) and he could potentially fill their void without killing the cap

by asmallvictory31 on Jun 26, 2009 11:58 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hell no he won't go!

Can you picture the line of JVR, Giroux, and Pat Maroon?

by penguinsfan on Jun 26, 2009 4:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs


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