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2009 Free Agency: The Flyers' situation

As we transition from draft mode to free agency, the Flyers have some questions as players hit the open market on Wednesday at noon. The rumors circulating indicate that they may not be done making a big splash in the market, but the Pronger deal on Friday night speaks to the contrary. Regardless, some work still has to be done, so here's a quick rundown of what to expect from the Flyers come the start of July. This is part of an SBN hockey-wide series.

Pending Unrestricted Free Agents

Mike Knuble, Andrew Alberts, Martin Biron, Antero Niittymaki, Josh Gratton, Boyd Kane, Lasse Kukkonen, Scott Munroe, Jean-Sebastien Aubin

Pending Restricted Free Agents

Jared Ross, Nate Raduns, Nate Guenin, Danny Syrvet

Salary cap space and current cap hit

$4.3 million under the cap, $52.5 million cap hit. This includes the Chris Pronger trade and Ray Emery's deal.

Key needs

The Flyers, first and foremost, need a backup goaltender. Preferably, the netminder they sign should not solely be a second-tier player, but a goalie capable of challenging Ray Emery for the starting position. Emery's uncertainty in net could be turned around if he is challenged enough from within by another goaltender. It would also provide a safety net in case Emery falters.

In addition to a goaltender, the team needs at least one defenseman, whether it be Andrew Alberts or a replacement. They also need one or two more forwards to round out the spots voided by Mike Knuble and Joffrey Lupul.

Potential targets

In goal, there are several options. Look for the Flyers to target someone on the low end of the spectrum due to the limited cap space -- no Manny Fernandez's or Nikolai Khabibulin's or even Martin Biron's here. Think about re-signing Niittymaki, or picking up a guy like Craig Anderson, Brian Boucher, Scott Clemmensen, or Ty Conklin. Conklin is 2-0 in the Winter Classic, so if the Flyers are going to play in Boston on January 1, they'd be smart to pick him up.

At forward, Mike Knuble is definitely a re-signable option. Paul Holmgren has said that he's in talks with the soon-to-be-UFA and that he believes Knuble wants to stay in town. He's a good bargain though, and there will be a handful of teams happy to pick up his services. So if the Flyers can't pick up Knuble, look for guys like Nik Antropov, Manny Malhotra, Steve Sullivan, Sami Pahlsson, and Mike Cammalleri to potentially fill the void. At the same time, the front office could opt to push some player up from the Phantoms -- a much cheaper option. The candidates from the farm include Jonathan Matsumoto, Jon Kalinski, Pat Maroon, and Andreas Nodl.

On defense, if the team does not re-sign Alberts, there are several relatively cheap options. Dennis Seidenberg could come back to town from Carolina or Francois Beauchemin could come over from Anaheim. With the top two pairings set already, Mike Komisarek, Jordan Leopold, Marek Malik, Rob Scuderi, Ossi Vaananen, Martin Skoula, Paul Mara, Dmitri Kalinin, and Johnny Oduya would all come relatively cheap and would be very solid third pairing options on the Flyers.

What do our rivals want?

The Penguins won the Stanley Cup, but that doesn't mean they're without holes. Hooks Orpik at Pensburgh says that the Pens need to add a "top six forward or two and a top four defenseman." New Jersey needs "to upgrade their defense, preferably with an offensive or two-way defenseman," says John at In Lou We Trust. They're also in need of a backup goaltender, considering Clemmensen and Kevin Weekes are free agents. Oh, a coach too. The Rangers just need to back away from the salary cap, perhaps by shedding some of those ridiculous contracts. Looking at you, Wade Redden. The Islanders need a goalie -- bad. And a lot of other things.

Additional reading

James Mirtle has some great coverage over at From The Rink, listing all the players who will be available come Wednesday by position. The SBN Free Agency Hub is a great place to get all of your free agency news. And just in time for free agency to screw it up tomorrow, our salary cap page will be updated today to include Chris Pronger and Ray Emery. It's an easy to understand tool for breaking down the Flyers salary cap situation.

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John Madden…??? are the flyers still going after him? we could use an extra 200 face-off wins and 10 or so more short-handed points… would take the pressure off carter and richy

by fitzy first on Jun 30, 2009 9:35 AM EDT reply actions  

I’m definitely wanting a Pahlsson or Malhotra for the 3rd line. They’ll be able to get the job done, and come cheap enough to fit into our team. I think Madden is too big of a name, and will net more cap room than we can afford to give up right now.

by SJPhillyVT on Jun 30, 2009 10:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Wow, never expected to see the phrase “New Jersey needs to upgrade their defense” in this lifetime.

by Ben Rothenberg on Jun 30, 2009 10:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Not so sure

I don’t see Komisarek, Oduya, or Leopold coming cheaply enough for the Flyers to sign. Be nice, but I doubt it. Same for Camallieri. And I think Maroon or Laliberte have decent shots from the farm. Resign Alberts or Kukkonen (who played well with Jones, you’ll remember), give Knuble a 2-year incentive-laden deal, and get one of the mentioned backup/part-time goalies. That should do it!

by penguinsfan on Jun 30, 2009 10:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Pretty much everybody has been saying that we need to trade Briere to create cap space(which I agree with) but I am wondering why nobody has suggested moving Carle? He is making to much to be a 3rd line defenseman and we are going to have to re-sign Pronger, Coburn, and Parent next off-season.

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by The Legend on Jun 30, 2009 10:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Very good point

I think Carle ends up on 2nd line by 20 games in. If he doesn’t then that makes the decision easy at the end of his contract.

by boknows71 on Jun 30, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

FYI

I think Jordan Leopold’s rights were traded to florida for the pick and J-bo

by fitzy first on Jun 30, 2009 12:15 PM EDT reply actions  

You’re right, but they haven’t signed him.

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by Travis Hughes on Jun 30, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Need another D man?

Pronger-Timonen
Coburn-Carle
Parent-Jones
Why do we need another one? Granted, Jones sucks, but hes better than Alberts. If any of them go down, just bring up the Phantoms best and roll with it. I dont think we have enough cap space to have the luxury of a 7th defenseman.

I hope we resign Knuble, Nitty and Ross. Let all the others walk. No need to make a splash, we already did that.

by philiafan14364 on Jun 30, 2009 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

And I don’t think Marshall or Bourdon are ready to play in the nhl( I’ve seen them play all year). Signing another D man for 2 or 3 season would be smart.

by MathB on Jun 30, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve been wondering about their development, seeing as the Flyers give us next to nothing. Having watched them, do you think they have as much potential down the road as some are hyping them up to?

by Ben Feldman on Jun 30, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

flyers are real high on marshell, they think he can be a top 4 defenseman soon. i just dont see him being ready this year.

by JpH89 on Jun 30, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I live in quebec city where Marshall play so I’ve seen him at least 30 times this year. He was probably the best stay-at-home Dman in the qhl, he is really physical and he isn’t not scared of anybody. I don’t think he is ready yet but maybe next year he can play about 30 games. He is the toughest D man from quebec of the decades.

Bourdon was my favorite D man last year, easily the best d man in the qhl. He reminds me a lot of Kris Letang and I think he can have that kind of development. I think he has more chance of making the team this year than Marshall but I think Marshall is a future captain in the NHL.

by MathB on Jul 1, 2009 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

It seems to me that the upper brass has been trying to get at least more of a speed/scrappy element into the roster…Steve Sullivan would be killer for that, IMHO. Yeah, he’s tiny by comparison to most NHLers, but he’s quicker than crap through a goose and scores quite a bit.

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by dwarvenpanzer9 on Jun 30, 2009 6:41 PM EDT reply actions  

if we can get Cammalleri, let knuble walk, he can be a 40 goal, 70+ point player with the first 2 lines.

by JpH89 on Jun 30, 2009 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Cammalleri

He would be too expensive (around 5 million) and would essentially be a better version of Lupul. The Flames are my #2 team and I watched a lot of them this year. Cammalleri is the type of player who is unstoppable when he gets hot but invisible when he is not. Dude doesn’t backcheck either.

I heard something about Knuble NOT being here next year.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Jun 30, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Panotch says Knuble resigning with us is “unlikely.” We just don’t have the money because we not only need to fill in empty spots (looking a lot like Boosh is back) but also have some extra space. And we can’t blame Knuble for wanting what he’s worth. He’s willing to take a pay cut to stay here, but he’s not willing to have his salary cut almost in half while his game hasn’t (and rightfully so). Having him sign somewhere else will be a shame.

by Ben Feldman on Jun 30, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHY?

Why Brian Boucher v. 3.0 and not Craig Anderson?

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Jun 30, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

id rather Boucher over anderson, imo

by JpH89 on Jun 30, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cheaper, probably. I also have a feeling that Homer doesn’t want Emery to think someone else is competing for his job.

by Ben Feldman on Jun 30, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that’s a terrible mistake — he should have the pressure from the get-go, because if he doesn’t perform, he’s going to get it whether he likes it or not. Besides, the guy needs to prove himself. And if you have to tailor to your goaltender’s emotions that much, it might be a sign that you picked the wrong guy.

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by Travis Hughes on Jul 1, 2009 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Komisarek is going to get at least 4 mill. and he’s a top pair D, not 3rd pair. I don’t see PHI being able to even begin to enter that discussion. Camalleri is probably going to get 5 mill per so I think he is probably priced out of the Flyers. Scuderi would have been a nice fit but he’s going to be way overpaid. Skoula would probably be a good fit; veteran D who has been around, won’t break the bank and you’ll basically know what you are getting from him.

by Rob Parker on Jun 30, 2009 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

What other people said

Komisarek is a top pairing d-man and would not come to us at any price resembling cheap. We have Cammalleri, we just call him Danny Briere (with more of a Joffrey Lupul touch). Which is not to say I would not love Cammalleri — if we could trade Briere & sign Cammalleri for the same price, I’d consider it a net gain.

If we got Komisarek, it’d be NHL 09 roster type of silly. Him on the 3rd d-line is like when I sign Mats Sundin to play for the 3rd f-line. Unlikely at best in real life.

by Alon on Jul 1, 2009 12:47 AM EDT reply actions  

saw an interesting idea on another blog

Mike Zigomanis as the third line center. He led the league in faceoff percentage for a time last season with the Pens – so not only do the Flyers get a good defensive centerman to win faceoffs, but they poach the same from their biggest competitor. And he should come pretty cheap too!

by penguinsfan on Jul 1, 2009 10:24 AM EDT reply actions  

ziggy

i remember that guy, was he a healthy scratch during the playoffs?

by fitzy first on Jul 1, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

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