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2009 Free Agency: July 1 Open Thread

The NHL Draft over the weekend wasn't quite as busy on the transaction front as people had expected. Only two major moves were made, but the foundations for other moves and possible signings as free agency begins today could've been set while the hockey world gathered in Montreal.

The Flyers, of course, made the biggest move of the weekend, acquiring Chris Pronger. But they aren't done as free agency begins at 12 PM ET. Will they sign a goalie today? Will they re-sign Mike Knuble today? Where will Martin Biron land? Where will Dany Heatley be traded? WILL Dany Heatley be traded?

There are a ton of questions and a ton of excitement is bound to take place today. Spend the afternoon here at Broad Street Hockey.

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Just an observation...

If you check the roster on PF.com, the only goaltender is Niitty. Hmm? Or just bad updating?

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 11:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i feel like randy jones is grossly overpaid. am i the only one that feels this way??

by asmallvictory31 on Jul 1, 2009 11:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

absolutely not.

i’d be curious to hear from people who feel randy jones is appropriately (or under) paid.

by beatniche on Jul 1, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meh…I think the only truly grossly overpaid one is Briere. Jones is overpaid, but he’s not the mountain to move.

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 11:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Briere and Carcillo to Phoenix for Doan and Upshall.

No proof whatsoever, it’s just what I want…

by Ben Rothenberg on Jul 1, 2009 12:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nahhhh

only because then we need to start cote, but i would trade cote for an 89cent burrito at taco bell.

by JpH89 on Jul 1, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I read that if we don’t get rid of Cote in the off-season that he would most likely be sent down.

fightlockdown.com

by The Legend on Jul 1, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

To be honest..

Briere and Carcillo to Phoenix for Upshall and a bathroom repairman. That’s all I need.

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 12:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yo

Knuble to stay, Biere to trade and Cote and Carcillo to clean the creases during tv timeouts

by ljn on Jul 1, 2009 12:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

All goalies removed from PF.com’s roster

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 12:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

official site- philadelphiaflyers.com

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 1:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Holy crap

Tampa locked up Ohlund for 7 years? I hope the Swede enjoys balmy weather. And, you know, being on a crappy team for at least 5 of those 7 years…

"...You know, Reemer, someday I'm gonna own a big sports bar."

by IcersGuy on Jul 1, 2009 1:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Kinda nervous…TB interested in Niitty…want him out west.

update: Biron to Edm?

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 1:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

All this trading Briere talk is nice, but I don’t see it happening. Hartnell seems more likely if they are desperate to clear cap, but I say just grab one of the goalies, get Pahlsson or Malhotra and use the rest on Knuble or a replacement for him.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rathje

Hes still on the payroll…

by philiafan14364 on Jul 1, 2009 1:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ah yes, we can all look back fondly on the 7 mil spent per year on Hatcher/Rathje post-lockout.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yup- rat was a mistake from the beginning

by fitzy first on Jul 1, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How long till hes off?

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 1:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is the last season we’re stuck with his cap hit on LTIR.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank god, that 3.5 could be better used. I know we prolly won’t move Briere, but we need to move SOMEONE

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

All still quiet on the Flyers front…I have to say I’m surprised.

Hossa to Chicago though. That man gets around.

by Ben Rothenberg on Jul 1, 2009 1:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wonder how long the deal is for, I’ve heard 6 mil a year. But clearly he’s cursed at this point.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rumor..

Apparently 9 teams have contacted Knuble, and not one was the Flyers. WTF Homer?!

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m guessing that’s because they’ve been in constant contact. By this point I’m sure Homer knows what it needs to be to get it done, and Knuble is probably seeing if anyone he wouldn’t mind playing for will give him 2 years at a good price.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heard Knuble will let Flyers match any offer…hope it’s true

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can't say I'm too surprised really

Until they can make a trade to free up cap space, I don’t doubt the Flyers brass is content with sitting back and picking apart the “leftovers” from this free agency blitz. Today, the agents are trying to get the most money they can for their clients. Give it a couple weeks, let the energy settle a bit, and then go after the fillers with a more reasonable (or perhaps even discounted) price.

"...You know, Reemer, someday I'm gonna own a big sports bar."

by IcersGuy on Jul 1, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Randy Jones

Think there are any other GMs dumb enough to take on his inflated salary?

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 1:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think there would be a few takers. He is probably overpaid for what he brings but only for what, 1-2 years?

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well i know my fingers are crossed. you get rid of his salary and suddenly there’s space to resign kuble or his replacement.

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then we’d need a third pair defenseman, also, but that’d be fine.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i would take seidenberg

by JpH89 on Jul 1, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

People have been lauding him in Carolina this year, I didn’t see anything overly impressive from the ’Canes games I watched; has he really changed much?

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haven’t seen much, but maybe with more ice time = more maturity?

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anderson to Avs.

Biron to oilers?

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Craig’s gone?

So we’re down to Boucher, Clemmensen, Conklin? I haven’t seen us connected to “The Monster” but I wouldnt mind giving him a shot either.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup

2 years I believe.

Clemmy’s still my fave, but Bouch will be cheap and he’s MUCH better as a backup than a starter.

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i kindof like the idea of clemmensen coming in. he proved that he can eat up some games if we would need him to. though my preference would be to trade and go after someone like josh harding in minn. that way we can clear some salary and get a goalie in return.

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right. 2 years for the Avs.

I’d love to see Clemm, but Bouch is serviceable as a backup and would be cheaaaap

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cheap is most important. I don’t trust Clemm because of a good season in NJ, and I always have issues with former devils anyways. If the Emery experiment has failed by mid-season, I’m sure we’ll be in the market for someone at the deadline.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Conklin signs with Blues, we should make a move relatively soon here to lock up a goalie.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like 2 years 1.3 per

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i’d actually like to give oscar bartulis or danny syvret a shot. i think they should at least see some sort of nhl action this year. then again, i’d also rather have andrew alberts than randy jones.

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 1:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’d be ok with bartulis/syvret/guenin being our 7th defenseman, but I don’t know about penciling them into the third pair before the season starts.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that’s where i like resigning alberts. you’re right about not penciling them into a regular spot – i was just thinking about getting them some pro action. though i wasnt too impressed with guenin in the limited action i saw him in this past year.

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What’s the deal with Alberts? I never really liked what I saw from him.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me neither, I think he’s terrible.

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the only reason i say that is because he’d be more affordable than jones is all. he didnt stand out by any means, but as the season progressed, i thought he continued to get better in his own end. though i liked vaananen better than both of them. losing him killed our depth last year.

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Got better as the season went on

Started to play the at-home defenseman position better. I had my doubts about him for most of the season, but the latter 1/3rd of the season was much more polished.

For the moderate price, he did what he needed to do.

"...You know, Reemer, someday I'm gonna own a big sports bar."

by IcersGuy on Jul 1, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Knuble

We must sign him one way or another. After all the Pronger excitement it would be a total downer to loose Kubie

by ljn on Jul 1, 2009 2:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We just don't have the money

And I can’t see Knuble taking the sort of major pay-cut that he would have to take in order for the Flyers to fill the holes they still have.

"...You know, Reemer, someday I'm gonna own a big sports bar."

by IcersGuy on Jul 1, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah basically unless we trade someone we either re-sign Knuble or get a guy who can take faceoffs.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly. Wish Cote did more…

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Habs continue to give me (false) hope. This time its about moving big/bad contracts. How does that Gomez deal make sense for them?

by FredEx on Jul 1, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gives hope they’ll take Briere

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No it doesn’t. They took Gomez, so there’s no way they’ll take Briere now. That was a sad trade for me.

Hopefully the Isles or ’Yotes will take Briere. Please.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let me rephrase…

It gives hope that there is someone stupid enough to take trades like that

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I doubt they (the Habs) take on more money, but it gives me hope someone will. And Rangers got Higgins and their 2007 first rounder in return. I don’t get it.

by FredEx on Jul 1, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm led to believe

that Gomez was their “Briere” deal. I can’t imagine them wanting to take on two huge contracts for players that have been substandard at times.

"...You know, Reemer, someday I'm gonna own a big sports bar."

by IcersGuy on Jul 1, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I feel like I might be the only one seriously considering John Madden as a 4th line center…I know he was a Devil, but he was a PITA to play against.

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He might get too much money from somewhere else. I’m considering him along with Pahlsson or Malhotra, but I think I’d prefer either of those two over Madden. He’s a little long in the tooth.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i forgot about malhotra. i rescind the comment haha

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Habs are grasping at straws, they look as though they have completely lost direction

by ljn on Jul 1, 2009 2:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

“Gives hope they’ll take Briere” lol

by ljn on Jul 1, 2009 2:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Conklin to Blues 2 yrs. TSN

by ljn on Jul 1, 2009 2:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BTW Im watching everything on twitter, will keep you all updated

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hossa just signed with Chicago, 12 years, 62 mil, btw.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 2:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yea now I don’t feel so stupid w/Homer’s Richards deal

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is this for real?

I mean DAAAAMN that is a lot of money and years.

"It was almost like if Harry didn't call it, it wasn't real." - Jayson Stark

by Chris Haines on Jul 1, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup. heavily front loaded though, just in case he chokes again

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

is anyone else in the TSN blog/chat? i’m getting up to the minute updates

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

no, trying to watch fever frenzy but it’s freezing

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea listening to WIP now, talking about phillies though

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

brian gionta needs to be an option if the flyers can’t sign knubs. they would need to move more salary tho.

by asmallvictory31 on Jul 1, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

reports about kovalev re-signing in mtl are false. hasnt happened yet.

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If he doesn’t they need to overreact and pay us (well) for Briere.

by FredEx on Jul 1, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

God that’d be awesome. or at least give us someone to massage his groin every 3 hours

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Replace Knuble with Gionta?? Gionta is about 4’ tall and weighs 130lbs……not much of a force in front of the net……….

by ljn on Jul 1, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps not a style replacement

but an offensive replacement for sure. I have no problem going after Gionta, except for that small fact that he’s going to command more money than Knuble…

"...You know, Reemer, someday I'm gonna own a big sports bar."

by IcersGuy on Jul 1, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DarrenDreger: Hossa’s deal heavily front loaded. 53 mil for the first 7 years of the 12 yr deal. TSN

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Clemmenson is still out there right?

by flyrsfrk05 on Jul 1, 2009 2:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

thus far

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yup, for now

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chicago has also signed Tomas Kopecky to a two-year deal.

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

we’ll need a presence in front of the net……….maybe JVR but that might be a reach. Seems some folks are down on his progress…

by ljn on Jul 1, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

no one is really down

he’s just not NHL ready. He’ll be more than enough of a Knuble replacement in a year or two, but probably not this year.

by Alon on Jul 1, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isles sign Roloson

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

any word on the years/salary?

"...You know, Reemer, someday I'm gonna own a big sports bar."

by IcersGuy on Jul 1, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 years $5 million total

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmmm..makes you wonder…he brought his team tot he cup…biron hasn’t…you think biron gets 2.5 now?

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nah – but he’s also not going to get the rumored $5 per year asking price.

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno man…I’d argue that Rolo is a better starter, at least consistently is. Hmm. If we couldve had Biron for 3/year I’d be pissed.

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah. i’m really ticked that holmgren couldnt take a step back and realized that marty wasn’t the problem.

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TBH…he wasn’t “the problem”, but he would be MUCH better with a Prongs led D.

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no way! sounds like the isles are regretting that excessively long depietro deal.

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not yet, will keep you guys posted

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BTW

So much for Boumister not talking until the deadline…he must have never wanted to come here…..

by ljn on Jul 1, 2009 2:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

if you listen to homer on mikey miss, it seems that that went both ways. homer wanted prongs, and either realized jbow wanted to go west or just didn’t think he was a better upgrade

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i’m totally ok with not signing jay-bo. pronger is arguably in the top 3-5 d-men in the league. no qualms here.

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me too. Love Prongs, love the deal. Not even gonna lie…I want to go for it. Fuck waiting.

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmmm thx….I could see that. Funny no Pronger talk during the love affair with jbo

by ljn on Jul 1, 2009 2:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Homer = ninja?

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Homer+ stealth?

by ljn on Jul 1, 2009 2:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Homer + stealth + ninja = Jet Li?

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

jesus homer let’s get this ball rolling…at least clarkey had some panache to make a splash

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Homer has no money

As I stated (late) above, I’d be half surprised if we made any real signings today. Until a trade can be made to free up cap space, Homer’s hands are tied with who/what he can go after in the market right now.

"...You know, Reemer, someday I'm gonna own a big sports bar."

by IcersGuy on Jul 1, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

*Correction - Homer has no money under the cap

"...You know, Reemer, someday I'm gonna own a big sports bar."

by IcersGuy on Jul 1, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

obviously, but i’d expect some sort of movement at least.

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When agents are looking for the most for their clients?

It’s probably smarter to make the guys sweat it out for a couple weeks to knock their price back down. Today, however, is the big money day.

"...You know, Reemer, someday I'm gonna own a big sports bar."

by IcersGuy on Jul 1, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Homer’s got $20 at a casino………

by ljn on Jul 1, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he’s prolly at harrah’s in chester right now

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hahahaa “Can I get a $200 advance???…Please!”

by ljn on Jul 1, 2009 2:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lol, him and briere should go, god knows he’s got the $$

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

why would he go to chester when he can take our remaining cap $$ and use it to take a private jet to AC?

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 2:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lol, possibly. I mean the remaining cap won’t get him a long night out, but he can do some damage. prolly play some nickel slots

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

“Danny you OWE me!…c’mon….$150??”

by ljn on Jul 1, 2009 2:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Homer cursing at some nickle slots with some 80 year olds cheering him on!

by ljn on Jul 1, 2009 2:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Knuble Signing Imminent

No word on which club, but in the East.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 2:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

where did you get the info?

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hockeybuzz was the first place i saw it

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

andy strickland said it on twitter moments ago

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Knuble agent..“Mike…This is not looking to promising!!#!”

by ljn on Jul 1, 2009 2:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

just saw that…NOT GOOD

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ugh………

by ljn on Jul 1, 2009 2:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It’s not terrible news if Knuble signs elsewhere. It pushes dominoes around, maybe forces us to make a trade.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 2:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yea, that’s true…but the PP…damnit. he was soo good on the PP.

Pens or Flyers, has to be.

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I didn’t think I could hate Knubs but if he goes to Pitt then I will

by flyrsfrk05 on Jul 1, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Philabright says Philly, Pitt, NY, or Boston…

THAT narrows it down. hmph

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Giroux + Pronger on the PP + whoever else we sign is fine with me. I wouldn’t mind seeing Knuble back again but I’m sure he’s losing a step each season.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 2:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I know, but we need more leaders. Pronger fills a big void there, but Knuble is amazing in that role

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How can the Pens afford him..unbelievable….has got to be the Flyers

by ljn on Jul 1, 2009 2:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

One can only hope..

I remember when Recchi/Leclair went tot he Pens…I’m still pissed

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

no one could have known the pens were gonna be stoop to the level they’re at now. no one knew about crosby’s douchebagery at that point. not to mention they treated leclair and rex like crap during their tenure.

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eklund says e3 for Biron to Oilers

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We need a big man…….update on JVR Ashburn..

by ljn on Jul 1, 2009 2:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

JVR needs to man up and make the big team. Kane is so many points ahead of him already.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 2:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I am getting the feeling he is soft…am I off base?

by ljn on Jul 1, 2009 2:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t know, I haven’t seen him play. He better not be soft, we were supposed to be drafting a power forward with good hands. Not an Antropov.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

he’s fine, when we drafted him we knew he would take a little while. He’s not ready, but he will be soon, and he’s every bit the PWF we drafted.

by Alon on Jul 1, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We are all aware that’s he’s only played a few AHL games so far, right?

I saw him play in the Final game at the Spectrum and the Game 1 loss to the Bears. No actual points (Sirianni stole the show in the first game, anyway), but he looked alright. He’d only been with the team 10 days, so he didn’t have the benefits of even going through camp with those guys to get settled on a line. I saw some good fundamentals, some flashes of good movement, but he didn’t do anything to shock me into noticing him. I don’t recall him playing as many minutes as I might have expected, though that could be because he wasn’t really a full-fledged member of the team. He needs some time, even if it’s not a full season, in the AHL.

That said, he’ll be slightly expensive if we start him day one. He’s gonna make 850K against the cap plus bonuses, so with an average of only $725K per roster spot open to be spent right now, it would be tight.

by DragonGirl0583 on Jul 2, 2009 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea..JVR will be on DNL at 6

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Steve Montador Signs Two Year Deal With Buffalo

by flyrsfrk05 on Jul 1, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, if we compare him to Downie…lol

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sabres have agreed to terms with Steve Montador on a two-year deal at $1.55 million per season.

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 2:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ha sorry just saw you posted that earlier. my bad.

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 2:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No worries

by flyrsfrk05 on Jul 1, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol, Brashear is a Ranger

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Downie is auditioning for the new season of “Jackass”

by ljn on Jul 1, 2009 2:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Today marks the first day former MVP Chris Pronger can officially sign a contract extension to take him beyond this season. Sources tell me he will not be signing an extension today with the Flyers. No word on any future contract negotiations with Philly.

anyone else see this on Hockeybuzz?

by flyrsfrk05 on Jul 1, 2009 2:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I don’t really think it matters. Now isn’t the time to deal with that.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree. Let’s see what we can work with first..

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pronger is in Mexico on Vaca, will be coming to Philly next week I think..

by ljn on Jul 1, 2009 2:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pens for 2 years/1.5. That’s the latest Knuble rumor

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Knuble to Capitals

as reported by Andy Strickland, 2 years, 2.8 per

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 2:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yea, JUST saw. OIIII

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, this is officially a bad day.

by flyrsfrk05 on Jul 1, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

FUCK

Caps, 2 years, 2.8 mill

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

oh boy………..Homer’s hitting the hard stuff now, no doubt

by ljn on Jul 1, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

thank god it’s not the pens

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

or the rangers, i would’ve despised seeing him on either of those teams. I have no issues with the Caps, go have fun with Ovechkin, Mike, you deserve it.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point…

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There is a job opening for JVR now……

by ljn on Jul 1, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Let’s hope

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Listen, we get to look at this with fresh eyes now. We’ve got a top 6 forward group: Gagne, Richards, Carter, Hartnell, Briere, Giroux.

And we’ve got 4.1 mil to spend on a backup goaltender, and a guy who can win faceoffs, those are the two priorities. This may open up the trade winds, who knows. This isn’t the end of the world.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yea, give me an hour or so. I’m stille xcited for prongs…ordered my jersey lol

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry no positivity from me until something happens to make me forget this . . . .

by flyrsfrk05 on Jul 1, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i’m a sad panda.

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What. a. pisser.

by doubleh on Jul 1, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who do we have for size in front of the net on the PP?….

by ljn on Jul 1, 2009 2:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hope that Emery can run his ass down there?

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hartnell, possibly Pronger at times, opening for JVR, and maybe a FA.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Rangers have agreed to terms with Donald Brashear.

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 2:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Cote v. Brashear?

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

god are we really this bad of a team wear cote has a starting job, shit.

by JpH89 on Jul 1, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just what the Rangers needed!!#! Who is thier GM anyway – Pee Wee herman??

by ljn on Jul 1, 2009 2:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lol…

WIP just reported Knuble, trying to confirm. Will be switching over to Mikey Miss @ 3

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Confirmed by WIP

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Heatley has yet to decide. Oilers are still very much in play.

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 2:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

just keep his bitching ass out of our division

by flyrsfrk05 on Jul 1, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Knuble not signing = giving us $$ more Coburn and Parent?

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think that was probably why we didn’t want to give him 2 years, looking to have as many contracts off the book as possible next year to re-sign those two.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea..once Rathje’s off we’ll be in OK shape

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Niedermayer may go to Canucks? That’s kinda interesting…

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that would suck for ANA. Luca’s gonna get some playin time

by flyrsfrk05 on Jul 1, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea..esp. since they prolly relied on him to be there, hence the Pronger trade

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

exactly

that would be such a slap in the face

by flyrsfrk05 on Jul 1, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea…kinda selfish. Ana has waited what..the past 2 seasons…patiently…for him?

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hope Heatley doesnt go to the Ducks…he and Lupul would create a mess for MADD

by ljn on Jul 1, 2009 2:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm curious

as to how much of a paycut Knuble was willing to take to stay in Philly. Because at $2.8mil per year, there is no way we were going to be able to sign him.

I’ll be honest, I had no expectation to resign Knuble. Would I have liked him back? Certainly. But we just don’t have the cap room right now, and until someone is willing to do us a favor and lighten our cap burden, there was no way he was going to slide under the cap successfully.

That will be the key – if someone allows us to dump one of our salary cap, then we can start to really look around. Otherwise, get used to names like Brad May and Yann Danis…

"...You know, Reemer, someday I'm gonna own a big sports bar."

by IcersGuy on Jul 1, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yea…sorta sounds like the Broncos and Dawk..let’s overpay, or at least know we’ll pay you MUCH more than the former employment

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm seeing more as

Knuble was willing to give the Flyers a break, but wanted “fair market value” from everyone else. Since we couldn’t find the combo of 2-years and the right price, Knuble went with the best price on the board.

"...You know, Reemer, someday I'm gonna own a big sports bar."

by IcersGuy on Jul 1, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if JVR doesnt make the team this year, there is something wrong with him.

he hasent shown anything yet and has his best opportunity to make the club. im worrying that he is going to be a bust, god just think if we had kane.

by JpH89 on Jul 1, 2009 3:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

spits on the draft lottery

by eeeeee on Jul 1, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Calm down

JVR has nothing wrong with him, when we drafted him it’s because we thought his peak would be elite, not because we saw his present as elite. He was one of the best players in college and on Team USA the past two years, he’ll be elite in the AHL for a year, and then he’ll play great in the NHL. Think of it like Bobby Ryan vs. Sidney Crosby. Everyone was calling Ryan a bust because he wasn’t playing at Crosby’s level, but both those guys are incredible now — Kane may always be better than JVR, but maybe not, and in the meantime we need to be patient with him.

by Alon on Jul 1, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What do you guys think about signing Ruslan Fedotenko? Panaccio mentioned that Homer would target him if we couldn’t re-sign Knuble

fightlockdown.com

by The Legend on Jul 1, 2009 3:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He’s younger and prolly has more potential…but Knuble had edge and leadership. What were his stats last season?

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

whats his faceoff percetage like would be question

by flyrsfrk05 on Jul 1, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fedotenko doesn’t take faceoffs

fightlockdown.com

by The Legend on Jul 1, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brasher

1.4 mil?Good lawdy they have problems in NYC

by ljn on Jul 1, 2009 3:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dreger reports that Niedermayer stays with Ana, 6 mill +, 1 yr

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 3:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Darren Dreger reports that Scott Niedermayer has agreed to a one-year deal with Anaheim. It’s worth $6 million plus bonuses. No word yet on Rob Niedermayer.

by flyrsfrk05 on Jul 1, 2009 3:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

whose the older one-Rob?

by ljn on Jul 1, 2009 3:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think Scott is, at least he looked older with that massive grey beard lol

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 3:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

God, does anyone else miss Prims?

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 3:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

you’re not supposed to tease us like that. that’s just mean hearted :(

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well I forget who said it, but that 04 playoffs, he was the most dominating force by a long shot…and some say EVER. Oi. Miss him so.

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And what a captain, too

I’m sure the Pens don’t miss him as a Flyer…

by doubleh on Jul 1, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think we need Fedotenko, he’d be a decent third line winger, but what we really should spend that money on is someone who can win faceoffs.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 3:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

absolutely

no brainer

…or a goalie.

by flyrsfrk05 on Jul 1, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

screw fedotenko. his real name is streaky mcstreakerson.

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who asked Lupul if we can gank his nickname?

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Waiting for the announcement

that the Flyers sign Roenick, Recchi, and Shanahan to one year deals, giving us the oldest 4th line in the league.

What’s sad is that all three are easily within the salary limits I’m sure Homer is working around…

"...You know, Reemer, someday I'm gonna own a big sports bar."

by IcersGuy on Jul 1, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i wouldnt mind recchi, a 3rd line of him powe and JVR coud be good

by JpH89 on Jul 1, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've thrown around the idea of resigning Recchi

He’s still putting up more points than his age, and he’ll likely come cheap (perhaps at a discount for us). At the very least, he could get us from point A to point B until we solve this cap issue.

"...You know, Reemer, someday I'm gonna own a big sports bar."

by IcersGuy on Jul 1, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’d be fine with me.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can see all the 80 year old gals with Homer sittin at the nickle slots saying “get that Roenick, he’s a cutie!”

by ljn on Jul 1, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

RUMOR: Clarke inks deal, will return as top line center for the Flyers. e5!!!

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

maybe we’ll win A faceoff this year!!!!!

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Clarke tried to teach the boys how to win faceoffs and they still couldn’t do it.

by doubleh on Jul 1, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol, doubtful. where’s Zus?!?!

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How old is Shanny and did he even play this year?

by ljn on Jul 1, 2009 3:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He’s 40 and yes he did, for the Devils.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sundin had 9+19 in 41 games

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not terrible. Faceoffs?

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

6+8 in 34

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meh.

How about Sundin?

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sundin would want about 10 mil

by ljn on Jul 1, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea we have that. LKASJDKLJADSA

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m starting to get anxious, we have to do something eventually.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 3:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Me too, I’m going to wear out my F5 key.

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What a waste of 10 million dollars that was, by the way. 28 points in 41 games? Whoopee.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 3:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

On who Shanny? Glad we didn’t get him…

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was Mats. Shanahan probably got paid 1 mil, or something.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Woops. Sorry, long morning/afternoon.

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm seeing 800k,

but yeah, Shanny was the better “value”. I guess.

"...You know, Reemer, someday I'm gonna own a big sports bar."

by IcersGuy on Jul 1, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am day dreaming about Homer working out a trade with Gainey

by ljn on Jul 1, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bouch…2 years, 1.8 million total

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 3:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

is that official or just speculation….where?

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

just wondering, does he still hold the recored for most consecutive shutouts

by JpH89 on Jul 1, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TSN says Boucher to Flyers

by doubleh on Jul 1, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

According to hockeyfilter via Sportsnet

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As they say, most times it’s the moves you don’t make in Free Agency that end up being most beneficial long term. I don’t want any panic moves or moves for the sake of moves. They need to be the right ones.

by doubleh on Jul 1, 2009 3:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What does that leave us with…@4mil?

by ljn on Jul 1, 2009 3:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I remember meeting him in Downingtown at a signing, like in 2000. Loved the dude, but man did he go nuts.

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hopefully not emery nuts….

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like a brand name. Emery nuts.

by doubleh on Jul 1, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder how long the deal is, probably just 1 year

fightlockdown.com

by The Legend on Jul 1, 2009 3:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

See, now that’s a signing I like.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 3:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

absolutely. i can’t believe san jose let him get away.

by eeeeee on Jul 1, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

who is san jose’s backup now..?

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they are hoping to go after the swedish monster gustavvson

by flyrsfrk05 on Jul 1, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

who cares whoes on their team, they all suck in the playoffs anyways

by JpH89 on Jul 1, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And now my day just got worse. Fuck Boucher. Fuck Homer for not getting Clemmensen and fuck everything else cuz Knuble is gone and I have a headache.

by flyrsfrk05 on Jul 1, 2009 3:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

sorry now I am just mad

by flyrsfrk05 on Jul 1, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What’s wrong with Boucher? He’s been great for San Jose. He’s our backup. And I don’t understand this love affair with Clemmensen. He had one good most of a season .. playing for a team that inflates goaltender numbers .. I wouldn’t trust him.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s our backup

We hope . . . thats why I don’t want him. If/when he becomes the starting goalie you think he is gonna backstop us through the playoffs? FALSE!

by flyrsfrk05 on Jul 1, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He did get kinda close…lol

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do remember that amazing save against the devils..and getting the puck stuck lol

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 3:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

against elias? i look for a good replay of that save all the time, i’ve only found fuzzy ones, i remember trying to imitate that so much

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ll look around…

I painted an old plastic Jason Voorhees mask with his WW1 era stuff years ago…loved Bouch.

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 3:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Can’t find it :(

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this is the best version i seem to be able to find:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j24KwUGjKpg

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 3:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yea, i see a couple of those. Oh well, amazing save.

That year we had what…Bouch…Hexy…Beezer?

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

or are you talking about the one that got stuck in his mask, haha

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 3:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nah that’s the save…but the puck getting stuck scared the DEATH outta me

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah that’s a different save, we were talking about the one where he sprawled onto his back and thrust his arm out

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 3:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yup.

I’m not gonna lie…I always thought he got shafted by the Flyers when they went with Cechmanek.

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 3:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lol…I have his jersey. May burn it later in hopes of giving Emery help

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol, I joined some Czech group on facebook, just so I can translate it and see how much fail cechmanek is up to

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I definitely agree.

After his sophomore slump (really, a mistake by Boucher to holdout, get a huge contract and the added pressure after he wasn’t even the starter in January) he beat Cechmanek out for his job back the third year. Was playing amazing hockey. Then got hurt.

Fun fact: This is now the fourth time Boucher has signed a contract with the Flyers – When drafted, new contract after his rookie year, two years ago when he played for the Phantoms, and now.

Broad Street Hockey -
Makin' it look mean since 1967.

by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 1, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

alright now sign malhotra.. do it..

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 3:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that would be a nice sign

by asmallvictory31 on Jul 1, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they might want to give matsumoto a look though in order to save some cash

by asmallvictory31 on Jul 1, 2009 3:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

is matsumoto going to finish in the top 5 in the nhl in faceoffs? i don’t think so, we need someone like that more than we need to replace any kind of scoring

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looking over what's available in our money range

I think we’re down to Eric Perrin… or a dead fish.

(Excuse me – sea kitten…)

I kid, because I do concur. If we can avoid the “nagging injury” bug, I’m not too concerned with the offense. If we can find someone with a heightened face-off ability, it’s worth the focus for now.

"...You know, Reemer, someday I'm gonna own a big sports bar."

by IcersGuy on Jul 1, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We have what, 3.2 mil left to spend?

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

3.1-3.2 I think

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Note that Homer has mentioned he wants to keep about $1mil open for any mid-season moves (due to injuries).

Our cap keeps shrinking and shrinking…

"...You know, Reemer, someday I'm gonna own a big sports bar."

by IcersGuy on Jul 1, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So barring a trade, we’re basically done.

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, we should be in line to spend 1.5-2 mil on a forward if we don’t trade anyone.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not necessarily

But you have to look for guys who are willing to sign for about 1mil if you want to fill the remaining holes.

"...You know, Reemer, someday I'm gonna own a big sports bar."

by IcersGuy on Jul 1, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well what are we looking at for potential bottom 6 from current roster? Carcillo, Cote, Powe, JVR, Nodl, Ross?

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm assuming, for now

Asham, Carcillo and Powe are all locks; Nodl sounds very likely; and we’ll have to see what happens with Cote.

Either way, that’s 4 of 6 that are likely set. Ross is a RFA, and if we’re lucky, he’ll resign for cheap. That would make a likely 5th lock. If we put Ross at about 750k (rather predict over than under), it leaves about 1.1 mil to work with – and that’s keeping the $1mil cushion for Homer.

"...You know, Reemer, someday I'm gonna own a big sports bar."

by IcersGuy on Jul 1, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Isles signed Roloson? But I thought they already had a 60 million dollar goalie? =p

by eeeeee on Jul 1, 2009 3:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Now i’m pissed.

Bulin to Edm. Which means what? That Biron has no hope? Goes to Chi? That was supposed to be his spot.

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 4:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Clemmenson to FL

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 4:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Interesting...

trading Anderson for Clemmensen?

Broad Street Hockey -
Makin' it look mean since 1967.

by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 1, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Basically. Swap of career backups?

What’s that leave…LA?

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think LA is comfortable with Quick and their other young goalies they’ve been drafting.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So then he’s basically screwed.

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll put Colorado out there

Unless they’re stone cold set on Peter Budaj…

"...You know, Reemer, someday I'm gonna own a big sports bar."

by IcersGuy on Jul 1, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn’t they sign Anderson?

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh heh... how quickly I forget...

How about the Leafs?

"...You know, Reemer, someday I'm gonna own a big sports bar."

by IcersGuy on Jul 1, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Toskala and I believe trying to get The Monster?

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're still hesitant about Toskala

I wouldn’t be surprised if they look for a (1a) type goalie.

"...You know, Reemer, someday I'm gonna own a big sports bar."

by IcersGuy on Jul 1, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Simple question:

TSN has Ohlund’s signing at 12:30 pm. Doesn’t that raise eyebrows? Teams aren’t allowed to talk to other players until noon, so to contact, negotiate, and agree within 30 minutes… wouldn’t that lead to either lots of rule breaking or massively over paying/taking a worse deal? I’m just thinking, maybe he should have waited an hour or two (or a week) to see what teams become desperate for defensive help and up their offer. Baseball isn’t like this…

Broad Street Hockey -
Makin' it look mean since 1967.

by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 1, 2009 4:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Football is…ask Asante Samuel. As much as I love the Birds, it happens.

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think they just blew him away with a seven year offer. Honestly, did you think he would get a 7 year offer from anyone?

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn’t think he’d get a 4 year offer…

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

RDS reports that the Flyers have signed Ian Laperierre for three years and $3.5 million

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 4:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

For serious? I dont know how I feel about that. Hrm.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I kind of hope that’s wrong.. he doesn’t bring anything that we need.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not impressed

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Except veteran presence, but he’s not good at faceoffs, doesn’t replace Knuble’s scoring on the PP, weird.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea, just a waste of money unless he wants to lay down to block shots or something of that nature

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah last year he was an impressive 43% on faceoffs. the flyers already have that kind of “talent.”

by eeeeee on Jul 1, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

AHHHHH! I am gonna rip my hair out. Fucking unbelievable . . . What is Homer doing?

by flyrsfrk05 on Jul 1, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he’s a really really good 3rd/4th liner, but as of right now, we have absolutely no depth if someone in the top 6 gets hurt. when upshall was here, he could jump in if need be, but now we dont really have that. this is an odd signing.

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Powe

could be Upshall esque in spot duty

by Alon on Jul 1, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

For me, it's a Carcillo situation all over again

It’s not that I don’t like Laperierre – he can certainly bring a lot to the team. But for the cost, and for what is still available, I just think there are better moves to be made here. Doesn’t mean that I think he sucks or will be horrible. I just question the value compared to the other options open on the market.

"...You know, Reemer, someday I'm gonna own a big sports bar."

by IcersGuy on Jul 1, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cole stays in Carolina for 2 years. 2.8 + 3.0 www.tsn.ca

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 4:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pittsburgh has signed Mike Rupp – two years, 825K per year

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 4:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

 Bob McKenzie reports that Montreal has signed Hal Gill for two years and a total of $4.5 million.

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 4:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So much for having someone who wins faceoffs . . . what a terrible day

by flyrsfrk05 on Jul 1, 2009 4:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hahah... go home and have a drink or two

The world is not over yet, and season has yet to begin.

"...You know, Reemer, someday I'm gonna own a big sports bar."

by IcersGuy on Jul 1, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

i know i know, just disappointed, as I think we all are . . .
i am slowly becoming less assured of this team

by flyrsfrk05 on Jul 1, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am going to take this advice and have some scotch. I’m still scratching my head with this signing, when I think the money could’ve better been used elsewhere, but I guess the Flyers think Laperriere is what they need for the bottom lines – maybe they’d rather count on him than some kid from the AHL. I dunno.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or maybe Homer wants to send a message?

One that is severely outdated…

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What, you think he’d had enough of the supposed tough team of the league getting pushed around?

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When were we getting pushed around?

by flyrsfrk05 on Jul 1, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I think it was more that people have been parking in front of our net for a while, which has more to do with defensemen.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, pushed around by the refs in penalties and fines…

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So we’re looking at:

Asham, Laperriere, Carcillo, Powe with a hope for JVR to make the team, and/or Nodl/Ross/Cote for the last spot?

Which leaves us around 2 mil under the cap, presumably, 1 mil of which could be used to target one more depth forward (please let it be a faceoff specialist) or a 7th d-man.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 4:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Remember 2 years ago when Homer was lauded for making the team faster, after the adds of Hatcher and Rathje just killed us?

Yea, seems like that’s a thing of the past.

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 4:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

just looked it up: Laperriere’s fo% was around 43% last year whereas Malhotra’s fo% was 58%. good work homer. looks like you know what you’re doing. jackass.

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 4:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Laperriere wasn’t signed to take faceoffs, he’ll play on the right wing, most likely. At least.. I hope.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1…he plays center and I’ll hang myself

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where did Malhotra sign? Oh right nowhere.

by SJPhillyVT on Jul 1, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here’s hoping he wants a pay cut..

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have a feeling that we’re done for a while unless we make a trade.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 5:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yep, I think that’s about it this year. Let’s hope we get a gift with JVR ready to play this year, and continued support from Giroux

by dozilla on Jul 1, 2009 5:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gagne/Richards/Briere
Hartnell/Carter/Giroux
Carcillo/Asham/Laperriere
Cote/Powe/Nodl

Ross RFA

JVR wildcard

Pronger/Carle
Timonen/Coburn
Jones/Parent

Emery/Boucher

1.8ish cap space .. look about right (certainly players not locked into positions up there)

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 5:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

 TSN has confirmed Mike Cammalleri signing withthe Canadiens for five years and $30 million.

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 5:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah that’s a good signing for them, except they still don’t have any size with forwards.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TSN has confirmed Mike Cammalleri signing withthe Canadiens for five years and $30 million.

by flyrsfrk05 on Jul 1, 2009 5:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Biron is really looking like one of the biggest losers of the day. Those top tier FA forwards like Gaborik and Havlat are gonna get money from somebody, the hell is Biron gonna play? Russia?

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 5:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Completely agree. I’m not sure who to be pissed at..him or Homer

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

 komisarek to Toronto. it’s official

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 5:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not surprising, a good move for them. I would’ve expected us to be in on him had we not acquired Pronger.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you get the feeling Homer is content with the roster? I’m thinking maybe we add one more person in FA or that he’s just gonna leave it alone and see how the season goes. All this chatter about Hartnell, Briere, Gagne, Jones being moved, I feel like he’s avoiding too much roster turnover.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 5:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

in an effort to stay positive…maybe we’re gonna be ok. i mean, JVR has the potential to be that top line winger that we’re really missing right now. it’s just a matter of when he gets there. our defense is really stellar right now, and if JVR steps up then our only forward needs are to get a faceoff man & to get rid of carcillo……

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There’s plenty of reason to be positive, mostly because of Pronger. We knew we weren’t going to be big players today unless we pulled a trade, so this is fine. Gotta hang a lot of hope on Emery, but with Pronger in the mix, Giroux a year under his belt, the tantalizing possibility of JVR .. there’s much to look forwards to.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

JVR going on Daily News Live right now

by dozilla on Jul 1, 2009 6:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

just turned it on – thanks for the heads up

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

anything good?

by AshburnAlley on Jul 1, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah do tell – does he have the hunger in his voice?

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2009 6:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he actually looks a little nervous. they’re just asking him about his goals for training camp, what college hockey was like as opposed to the few games he played with the phantoms, and all the ridiculous DNL questions like “give some examples of how people have mispronounced your name” and “what did you do on your birthday” and “does your college have frats” etc… he was only on for a little bit

by JohnnyD36 on Jul 1, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, the questions were absurd as usual.

by dozilla on Jul 1, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

says he gonna try hard to make an impression this year in camp..idk, last I saw of him was at the World Juniors. I wonder how well he’s moving along. I’d love to see him land a spot if he’s ready

by dozilla on Jul 1, 2009 6:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs


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