Ole-Kristien Tollefsen Officially A Flyer
by Travis Hughes on Jul 30, 2009 5:09 PM EDT
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UPDATE 7/31, 1:42 AM - Tollefsen will make $600,000 this upcoming season. It's a one year contract.
The Philadelphia Flyers have signed free agent defenseman Ole-Kristian Tollefsen to a one-year contract. The banged up former Columbus Blue Jacket was in the Delaware Valley over the weekend and passed a physical with team doctors, but as recently as Tuesday, general manager Paul Holmgren denied that a signing was imminent, saying only that Tollefsen was a "player of interest."
Here's what we had to say the other day when we first reported that 24-year-old defenseman had met with the Flyers.
Tollefsen, currently an unrestricted free agent, has played for the Columbus Blue Jackets since being drafted 65th overall in 2002. He played in just 19 games last year before a January knee injury ended his season. He is a big, bruising defenseman who accumulated 37 penalty minutes in those 19 games last season, and 111 PIM in 2007/08. He plays a physical game, is very aggressive in the defensive zone, and has good defensive instincts. Some say that he hits too often, however, and that he needs to learn how to reign in his physical game.
He has been injured every year of his NHL career. Here's a synopsis of his injury history.
- December 2006, broken nose, missed 1 game
- Early February 2007, broken ribs, missed 1 game
- Late February 2007, elbow injury, missed 2 games
- April 2007, hip injury, missed final 3 games of season
- November 2007, hand injury, missed 4 games
- December 2007, neck injury, missed 11 games
- February 2008, concussion, missed 3 games
- March 2008, upper body injury, missed final 7 games of season
- December 2008, head injury, missed 16 games
- February 2008, knee injury, missed final 27 games including 4 playoff games
Tollefsen will make $600,000 this upcoming season, a $75,000 pay cut from his cap hit last season. It's been rumored that the pending deal between the Flyers and Tollefsen is the writing on the wall for Randy Jones' exit from Philadelphia. There has been no official confirmation of those rumors of course, but one would have to assume that signing Tollefsen is in some ways a salary dump and that the Flyers will look to move another defenseman, with the ultimate goal being to use the extra cash to pick up another offensive player from the free agent market.
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This means Homer’s got a deal to ship Jones out. Eklund says LA’s “very high” on him. And this contract’s gotta be on the cheap side. Good all around.
by Ben Feldman on Jul 30, 2009 4:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Eklund also said Roy Halladay was all but officially on the Phils. Yeah, he branches out now apparently.
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by Travis Hughes on Jul 30, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I fell for that, but I’m trying to be optimistic. Why sign a seventh defenseman if you’ve already got Marshall or Bourdon to bring up if necessary?
by Ben Feldman on Jul 30, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it’s definitely some kind of roster move, and Randy Jones could certainly be in the picture. I just wouldn’t believe it solely on what Eklund has to say.
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by Travis Hughes on Jul 30, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And let me clarify because that sounds stupid… of course it’s a roster move, every move is, lol. But I think signing Tollefsen is logically a precursor to something else.
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by Travis Hughes on Jul 30, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
@Ben. I don’t think Marshall or Bourdon are NHL ready. Tollefsen is strictly a 7th d-man signing for cheap. He’s going to watch a lot of the season from the press box, IMO.
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by HockeyOutsiders on Jul 31, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not meaning to sound harsh towards you (all harshness intended for Eklund), but you do realize Eklund has something like a 3% accuracy rate, and a chimp with a dartboard could do better? He’s strictly amusement value only.
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by The Dark on Jul 31, 2009 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Mean
Is there anyone else out there we can add to bolster are intimidation factor, I am very excited about this team next year. With the roster losing is not going to be taken lightly and when the score gets out of reach the opposition is going have to keep there heads on a swivel.
by chrislanci on Jul 30, 2009 5:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pronger did say in his press conference that they wanted two solid d-lines to play against the Pens considering that they will split Crosby and Malkin on two different lines to spread the talent around. Now I’m not saying that Tollefsen is going to be in our top two lines just that we are going after guys that are going to be physical with both of their star players…Malkin is a big guy so really need guys that want to hit and make him shy away from trying to carve his way to the net, can’t give him anything that might motivate him into playing harder….Crosby is a baby so really just need to keep hitting him just because……but I’m ready for the season, looking forward to some hockey and hopefully a winning season topped with a Stanley Cup.
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by PhillyPhan85 on Jul 30, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow.
That injury break down is frightening.
I can’t imagine what’ll happen with our training and medical staff.
Let's go Flyers!
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by OrangeAndBlackk on Jul 30, 2009 5:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The 11 games for the neck injury was from a hit from behind in the pre-season
IIRC, he played about 50 games with the neck/head injury and numbness in his arms and hands before finally sitting out to heal. Hopefully our medical staff now would be a little more on top of things and not let him play with what sounds like a nerve injury.
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by The Dark on Jul 31, 2009 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So assuming that Jones is probably on the way out, what are we getting with OKT? I know that he has had bad luck with injuries thus judging his quality as a player difficult. So what should we think? He is 6 ft 2 in, 211 lb meaning he has good size and does not play anything like the “European” stereotype of fancy and shying away from the physicality. Here are a couple of videos that I dragged up: Ole Kristian Tollefsen vs. Mark Smith and Ole-Kristian Tollefsen vs Alexei Ponikarovsky. These bode well for his tenure as a Flyers.
Either way, if this means that Jones is headed out and Tollefsen is not much of a defensiveness dropoff from Jones, we just eliminated Jones ridiculous salary and regained some of the size and grit that we lost when Alberts signed with Carolina.
Good all round, I think.
by flyrsfrk05 on Jul 30, 2009 6:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OKT vs. Alberts
Alberts stop hitting after the new year, hopefully OKT will not. Also does anyone know if he can move the puck better than Andrew “TurnOver” Alberts his 1st pass was awful.
by chrislanci on Jul 30, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about Carle?
Does anyone think that Carle could be on the trading block instead? I think he’s much more talented than Jones but he also has a $3.5 Million cap hit.
Frankly I’d much prefer moving Jones but is it possible Carle could be traded?
by Flyer Fan on Jul 30, 2009 6:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Carle’s higher cap hit is exactly why he’s not likely to be traded. Jones has a lower cap hit and one year left, while Carle’s got a higher hit through 2011-12. And if you’re someone taking in Jones, you’d have to imagine you’ve got a good chance at resigning him for a lower hit (albeit longer term) after this season. No sane GM is going to offer Jones a raise for 2010-11, that’s for sure.
by Ben Feldman on Jul 30, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus...
Carle did get a lot better as the season went on. I thought he was one of our best D-men in the playoffs.
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by mikefive on Jul 30, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with w/MikeFive
I think he will have a very good season this year. Don’t think he’s going to be +25 but he’ll get some decent assist numbers and be a good stick on the blue line for PP.
I’m thinking 50-60 pts.
by boknows71 on Jul 31, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What exactly is Eklund’s deal with the Flyers organization? Is he a “consultant,” a part-time writer/media guy along with Kevin Kurz, or what? Cause he did that FlyersBuzz TV stuff a while ago and if you listen to the audio on philadelphiaflyers.com, that’s him interviewing OKT.
by Ben Feldman on Jul 30, 2009 8:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is Eklund even his real name?
I just thought he named himself after Pelle Eklund, which would explain a lot.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
by mikefive on Jul 30, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His real name is Dwayne Klessel or something (he looks like this), but yeah, Eklund is because of Pelle.
by Ben Feldman on Jul 30, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hm.
Not at all how I pictured him. I pictured, well, Pelle Eklund.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
by mikefive on Jul 30, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve seen him in person — it’s terrifying.
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by Travis Hughes on Jul 31, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His face
or the fact that he has credibility?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 31, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good question.
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by Travis Hughes on Jul 31, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t understand why every post on this site bangs the drum for the Flyers to add a scoring forward. There’s no basis for it whatsoever, yet you keep ending with things like:
“with the ultimate goal being to use the extra cash to pick up another offensive player from the free agent market.”
by MarioD on Jul 30, 2009 11:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
At least as of late that tone makes sense.
They are apparently talking to Bertuzzi, who is in theory a scoring forward. If they move Jones as speculated they clear cap space. It makes sense that extra space would be used to sign they scoring forward and still have some flexibility.
I’m not saying it’s something we need, but it’s not just outlandish claims complaining about a lack of scorers.
by FredEx on Jul 30, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bertuzzi signing cheap makes good sense. He replaces Knuble on the top line and he shores up the top 2 lines.
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by HockeyOutsiders on Jul 31, 2009 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If this were 2002 maybe.
Todd Bertuzzi is not a top line player.
by MarioD on Jul 31, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Says who? He’s still relatively young and he’s a big body. He has a scoring touch and if he signs for say 800K (for one year only), he’s a bargain. All he’s going to be asked to do is open up space for Gagne and Briere. It makes perfect sense to me. Bertuzzi digs the puck out of the corner, feeds it to Danny, then rolls to the front of the net looking for garbage. That’s power forward hockey at it’s best. We all know Danny isn’t winning any battles in the corners, which is what he’d have to do if he gets slotted on a wing.
Who else are you going to slot on the top line right now? Richards is more suited for a 3rd line center shut down role, playing with Carcillo and Lappy. Giroux is probably better suited to play with Hartnell and Carter.
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by HockeyOutsiders on Jul 31, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mario is right.
I hate to sound like a broken record, but I’ll repeat myself once more.
1. The Flyers are obviously my favorite team, but my #2 team is Calgary.
2. Since I like the Flames, and since I had NHL GameCenter this year, I watched a lot of the Flames.
3. I saw Todd Bertuzzi playing on the top 2 lines of the Flames most of the time.
4. I saw Todd Bertuzzi do very well in October and early November.
5. I saw Todd Bertuzzi play like garbage the rest of the season.
6. I saw Todd Bertuzzi either take a lot of bad-angle shots or drop-pass to no one in particular.
7. I heard commentators hurling a lot of thinly-veiled sarcasm Bertuzzi’s way.
If you do not believe me, join Matchsticks and Gasoline and ask Kent or any of the other folks over there about Todd Bertuzzi.
Should he sign here, Bert needs to be a third-line player at the most, especially if he’s only going to score 15 goals.
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by mikefive on Jul 31, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m just ignoring the other insanity of that post and dealing only with Bertuzzi:
1 – I’d say the fact that he went public over the summer saying he wanted to stay in Calgary, and yet the Flames never even called him about resigning speaks to exactly how skilled he is at this point in time. http://www.calgaryherald.com/sports/Bertuzzi+gets+Flames+message/1846681/story.html
Not to mention, he’s been on four teams in three years and none of those teams wanted him back.
2 – Last year he put up 15g, 44p, 15, while averaging 18 TIO, and says his knee broke down before the end of the season. Let’s be clear about his +/. He had the WORST +/- on the entire team. This wasn’t just a bad defensive team where everyone was a minus. He was their worst defensive player and he put up only 15 goals.
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/leagues/seasons/teams/0000432009.html
3 – Since when is 34 relatively young? When people talk about Pronger being 34 he’s an “aging veteran”. Bertuzzi is not going to get better.
by MarioD on Jul 31, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoops, strikethrough was accidental. Thats all correct info.
by MarioD on Jul 31, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s all fine and good, but the situation remains the same. We need a top line forward, who do you propose to put on the RW where Knuble was? It’s fine to say that Bertuzzi isn’t that guy, but who is then?
What do the Flyers need?
1. A top line forward
2. A guy that is going to come cheap and only for a year
That pretty much eliminates anyone that doesn’t have some question marks to their game.
Yeah, the guy broke down. He couldn’t maintain his play for the entire season. However, that might not be a bad thing. If we sign him cheap, he plays on the top line for a few months until a better alternative emerges (ie. JVR?) I’m not saying Bertuzzi is going to suddenly regain his form or that he is going to light the world on fire. I’m simply saying that given the above 2 constraints, he is a logical addition. All four teams that Bertuzzi played on have viable reasons for not asking him back. The Panthers and Wings had injury concerns. The Ducks and Flames clearly have CAP issues. It’s not a mystery why he’s looking for a 5th team.
Hey, I’d love to see us get a legitimate top line forward, but the CAP pretty much restricts that. If not for the CAP, Homer would have just resigned Knuble.
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by HockeyOutsiders on Jul 31, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Flyers have six forwards who would be on the top line for 9/10 of the teams in the league.
They don’t need a scoring forward (which Bertuzzi isn’t anyway).
by MarioD on Jul 31, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are still ignoring my point. If it didn’t make sense to sign the guy, why is Holmgren even talking to him?
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by HockeyOutsiders on Jul 31, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I missed a memo about Paul Holmgren being infallible?
by MarioD on Jul 31, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m not saying that. I’m just saying that in a small degree (whatever small amount that is, is open to debate) that it makes sense to sign him.
1. I’m not advocating a 3 year deal at 3.5MM per season. I’m saying one year deal, less than $1MM. If he is open to that, he pots 15g and plays like a mean bastard, I think that’s a good investment.
2. Richards, while he is a top line forward, is our best defensive center. It just makes sense to put him on the 3rd line.
3. If JVR plays awesome with the Phantoms and it makes Bert expendable, we haven’t lost a huge investment.
I’m not arguing that the guy isn’t past his prime or that he’s an amazing first line guy. I’m simply saying he makes sense as a viable investment on a team that is hard up against the Cap, which we are. It also may give our young guys a few more months to “season” in the AHL.
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by HockeyOutsiders on Jul 31, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is just silly.
1 – JVR won’t be a Flyer this year other than possibly filling in to get a taste of the NHL in an instance of several injuries to the NHL roster.
2 – Nodl can score 15 goals in a season, too, and improve his play and not be an appalling defensive liability.
3 – The whole point of this offseason was to get defensive players to let Carter and Richards play offense, not offensive players so they can play defense.
It’s simple economics.
a – They’re not going to pay $6m to their third line center.
b – It’s much more expensive to sign a scorer to replace richards on line 1 than a checker to replace richards on line 3.
4 – The only undefined role on the NHL roster is third line center/faceoff specialist. Bertuzzi doesn’t fill that hole in any way, shape, or form. What you’re saying is that they should weaken the first line in order to fill that role.
That does not make sense.
by MarioD on Jul 31, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha nice, you’re coming around, mario.
by Natty Bumppo on Aug 2, 2009 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In a perfect world, I would agree with you and we wouldn’t even be having this discussion, but we aren’t operating in a perfect world.
1. I never said JVR wouldn’t just be an occassional fill in. I said, if by some miracle, he plays exceptional, and sticks with the team, Bertuzzi’s cheap contract won’t kill us. I’m not assuming JVR plays more than an occassional game next season.
2. Nodl scored 6 goals in 39 games last season with the Phantoms. I’m not sure how you think he’s going to almost triple that number in the NHL.
3. Sure the economics don’t make sense, but the fact remains that Richards is best suited as the 3rd line center checking line, matched up against the scoring lines of the likes of Washington/Pittsburgh. He isn’t confined to just that role. He is also eats up PP/PK minutes. Finally, who do you propose to sign to fill the role you propose? I’m not sure there is a guy out there that is going to come at a deep discount/1 year contract that fits the bill. What you are saying is that we should weaken our best defensive line and consequently play Danny on the wing in a role that he isn’t suited to playing, which in a sense also weakens that line.
4. We have an abundance of centers.Carter/Richards/Briere/Powe/Giroux/Ross/Kalinski are all under contract. How is that an undefined role? What we lost in the offseason is our two first line RW’s. We have a capable replacement in Giroux, but who is the other guy? What we lost in Knuble was a big bodied guy that was money in the corners and in front of the net. We need that guy, which is why it makes sense that Homer is sniffing around Bertuzzi. I don’t know why this is “silly” or does not make sense to you. Homer by his very actions is suggesting he’s still trying to fill that role.
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by HockeyOutsiders on Jul 31, 2009 3:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
but the fact remains that Richards is best suited as the 3rd line center checking line, matched up against the scoring lines of the likes of Washington/Pittsburgh.
if your third line in this scenario gets as many minutes as your second line, then alright. otherwise, it needs to be acknowledged that mike richards is one of the league’s top two-way players, and should really be on a scoring line. maybe on the pens behind malkin and crosby is he a 3rd line center. otherwise, it’s one of the best luxuries in hockey to have scoring lines that can also play against another team’s top players (think the zetterberg-datsyuk line, often used against another team’s #1). i’d kill to have richards centering the second line on the caps.
by Natty Bumppo on Aug 2, 2009 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 – Let’s check your math. 6/15 = 40% of the production I was talking about in 39/82= 48% of the games played. That’s not a drastic jump in production. And he won’t be the worst defensive player on the team in doing so.
3 – “the fact remains that Richards is best suited as the 3rd line center checking line”
This is a fact in as much as it’s something you keep stating it for no reason whatsoever. Richards is arguably one of the top 10 players in the league. The idea that he should be a checking center is baseless and ridiculous. He was 2nd in points and 3rd in goals on the team last season. He is not a checking center.
4 – I don’t know why I have to keep spelling this out for you. The top two lines are made up of Briere/Carter/Gagne/Giroux/Hartnell/Richards. The bottom two lines are made up of Asham/Carcillo/Cote/Laperriere/Powe/_. That final open roster spot slots in at 3rd line center. Todd Bertuzzi does not fit any need (real or imagined) that the Flyers have.
The only thing Knuble was “money” at in the corners was drawing an obstruction penalty. Giroux was incredibly strong along the boards if you really think that Gagne and Richards can’t dig out a puck on their own. Hartnell is on the other line to do that job.
It’s silly because you are making up needs that the Flyers don’t have, and then trying to fill those mythical needs with Todd Bertuzzi, a guy who doesn’t have the ability to do those things, has a bad knee, and was the worst defensive player on his team last season. You’re picking the wrong guy to fill the wrong needs.
by MarioD on Aug 1, 2009 12:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There’s a real ringing endorsement of Bertuzzi…
Last spring on the eve of the NHL playoffs, CBC analyst Kelly Hrudey made the interesting point Bertuzzi no longer plays a power forward game. He doesn’t get involved physically and regularly passes up opportunities to hit a defenseman or forward in favor of skating the big looping circle.
Not much of a replacement for Knuble, then.
For a team to be interested in signing Bertuzzi, it must accept the fact he’s only a mildly productive second-liner with underrated playmaking skills and capable of scoring in streaks. Signing Bertuzzi to be a grinder on the third or fourth line just isn’t going to work.
And any team with room for a -15, -15 goal scorer on their second line isn’t going far in April.
by MarioD on Aug 3, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who is Tollefsen going to replace?
So far there are 7 Defensemen on the roster….
Timonen, Carle, Randy Jones, Coburn, Pronger, Parent, and now Tollefsen…..
I can’t see Timonen, Carle, Coburn, or Pronger going anywhere…so that leaves..
I know people are chomping at the bit with Randy Jones….but if anything else…Jones does bring some experience with him…..
But, Ryan Parent…who has showed flashes of being good….but hasn’t played a full NHL season from beginning to end to really know what he can do…..he’s had injury problems, but so has Jones.
I am guessing if it comes down to money it’s Randy Jones….
or will someone go to the Phantoms as an insurance policy, in case there’s an injury?
by FlyersGoalies1and27 on Aug 9, 2009 7:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tollefsen’s deal is one-way. Swap Carle and Parent in the list of untouchables. Then figure that no one wants Carle’s contract. That leaves trading Jones, or us bringing 7 D-men (unless/until OKT gets injured).
Don’t be surprised if we move someone else (a Dan Carcillo) in a deal with Jones, because by himself, he and his contract are not terribly attractive, and we want draft picks, not mid-level prospects.
by Ben Feldman on Aug 9, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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