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Grading the 2009 Flyers: Scott Hartnell

Grade: A
08/09 Salary: $4.7 mil
09/10 Salary: $4.2 mil
09/10 Cap Hit: $4.2 mil
Linemates:  51.3% Jeff Carter and Joffrey Lupul
Depth Chart Ranking: #2 Left Wing

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GP G A P +/- PIM TOI/G PP/G Hits BkS GvA TkA
08/09 Regular Season 82 30 30 60 14 143 17:48 2:21 104 36 78 41
08/09 Playoffs 6 1 1 2 -2 23 18:35 2:36 9 0 4 0

 

In almost every category, Scott Hartnell had a career year.  He played every game for only the second time in his 8 year career and set career records in goals, assists, points, time on ice, and even strength goals.  Amazing what playing with Jeff Carter and Joffrey Lupul can do for a guy's stats.  Take nothing away from Hartnell:  he was given an opportunity and he performed, settling himself right into core of this team.  At only 27 years old and signed through the 2012-2013 season, Hartnell projects to be an integral part of the Flyers for the foreseeable future.

On the team, he was fourth in goals, fourth in points, fifth in plus/minus, fifth among forwards in time on ice per game, fourth in penalty minutes, and seventh in hits.  Hartnell achieved this while playing against average competition (0.01 qualcomp) with excellent teammates (0.18 qualteam), but the numbers should not be credited solely to that.  Lupul had even better teammates with slightly worse competition, and scored five fewer goals, ten fewer points, and was only +1.  Bottom line, Hartnell was given a great opportunity and he took advantage of it.  The Flyers scored 63 goals while Hartnell was on the ice (second most on the team) equalling a 3.50 GFON/60, also second best on the team.  While his GAON/60 was high at 2.84, he still finished a +12 including special teams play.  While that shows his defense isn't great, at least he makes up for it in the offensive zone.  Not the best excuse, but it could be worse - See Knuble, Mike (+4), Nodl, Andreas (-14), and Asham, Arron (-3).

Obviously, Hartnell still has much to improve.  First and foremost, he needs to cut down on mental errors.  We all laugh now, but when he threw his glove in the waning seconds of the game against Tampa Bay, it appeared he had just cost the team two points.  Further, his penalties in the playoffs were especially painful.  Spending four minutes per game in the box by himself, Hartnell put a severe dent in the Flyers chances.  On a related note, his turnovers could also improve.  In general, Hartnell just needs to get better mentally; avoid lapses in judgment, stop taking bad penalties, and be smarter with the puck.  Put all of that together with his style of play and obvious scoring touch, he could be a great player.  Either way, he's already a great sport.

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Up next in our Grading the Flyers series: Claude Giroux

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What do you expect from Hartnell next season?
30-35 goals
114 votes
25-30 goals
209 votes
20-25 goals
77 votes
0-20 goals
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Hartnell has found a home as Jeff Carter’s Left Wing. If he cuts down on those all too noticable mental errors, he is a bona fide all star caliber power forward.

by SanDiegoScraps on Jul 31, 2009 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

whats a shame is that over the second half of the season Hartnell made a noticeable effort to cut down on his penalties and improve his discipline. it seemed like he had come a long way…until the playoffs when as you mentioned, he spent 4 minutes per game in the box.

by njh3293 on Aug 1, 2009 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I went with 25-30 goals but wouldn’t be surprised if he got 30+ since Stevens wants him to fill Knuble’s spot on the power play

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by The Legend on Aug 1, 2009 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

25-30 sounds about right

Hartnell had a lot of pucks go in off his head, legs, etc. this year. Surely, that tends to happen to guys who go to the net often, as he does. I just don’t expect it to happen as much every year.

When Hartnell plays smart, he is an extremely valuable asset to this team. When he plays dumb, you can’t stay mad at him for too long. At least I can’t.

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by mikefive on Aug 2, 2009 12:39 AM EDT reply actions  

He’s gonna have to pick up some of Knuble’s garbage, so I put him at 30-35.

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by Ben Rothenberg on Aug 2, 2009 3:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Like everyone said

I think 25 to 30 since his role will likely stay the same. He got a good amount of power play time last year already, and that is sure to stay around the same. Plus, looking through his goals from last year, a lot of them were garbage goals similar to knuble’s and leclair’s were. I don’t see that changing.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Aug 2, 2009 6:41 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

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I’m glad the rumors about trading Harts were wrong. I would have been very disappointed if we traded him (also because i have a Hartnell jersey). I said 30-35 goals because his role is going to change this year. HJe’s gonna get more time on the power play this year now that Knuble has left, and also his PIM should go down cause we have more people to be physical. The pucks are going to continue to go in off of Hart’s knees, hips, feet, arms and chest because he’s always in front of the goal.

Just don’t throw any F’n gloves this year Harts!

by SkookFlyerfan on Aug 2, 2009 12:10 PM EDT reply actions  

He get's better every year

Since signing him 2 years ago, he’s both produced, and helped improve the fortunes of the team. He may take penalties, agetating is part of his game….but I think he brings a nastiness attitude to the game, that can be contageous to his teammates.

Health is the key to Hartnell…..he played in every game last season, and he only missed 2 games the season before due to a suspension. He’s produced 54 goals in his 2 seasons with the Flyers and over 100 goals the past 4 seasons. He isn’t shabby defensively and is a 32 for his career.
They will probably team him up with Carter again….but, I don’t know if you can expect 40 goals from Carter again, even if he stays healthy….if together they could both score between 25 & 30 each would be excellent.
Without Lupul they will need a third line mate….probably Powe (if he doesn’t play Center) or Asham….

by FlyersGoalies1and27 on Aug 9, 2009 6:13 PM EDT reply actions  

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