Ranking the Flyers: Number 9

by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 12, 2009 9:51 PM EDT in Philadelphia Flyers Features

In a very close vote, Scott Hartnell narrowly beat out Danny Briere and Braydon Coburn. Hartnell won by 13 votes, with Coburn 6 behind Briere. Final percent tallies were 35% for Hartnell, 31% for Briere, and 29% for Coburn.

In keeping with the two day limit, we move on to Number 9.

Also, if at any time you think someone needs to be added to the poll, put it in the comments. I don't expect anybody to want to vote Andreas Nodl in the top 10, but I do figure it will happen soon.

Mike Richards
Kimmo Timonen
Jeff Carter
Chris Pronger
Simon Gagne
Claude Giroux
Ray Emery
Scott Hartnell

Poll

Who is the Next (Ninth) Most valuable Flyer?

Braydon Coburn

180 votes

Randy Jones

1 votes

Dan Carcillo

2 votes

Ian Laperriere

3 votes

Matt Carle

2 votes

Riley Cote

5 votes

Brian Boucher

0 votes

Darroll Powe

2 votes

Arron Asham

3 votes

Danny Briere

165 votes

Ole-Kristian Tollefsen

2 votes

Ryan Parent

1 votes

James van Riemsdyk

20 votes

386 votes | Poll has closed

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put it simply.....

Danny with a full season has no problem putting up 80+ points. im not saying that you need to vote for him(i did but i wont peruse you to), but the fact that an 8-+ point scorer is our #9 or 10 most important player really makes me feel good about this team.

by JpH89 on Sep 12, 2009 11:34 PM EDT reply actions

that is supposed to be 80+, but is danny went +8 in +/- during the year that would be impressive to haha

by JpH89 on Sep 12, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Braydon!

I understand that Danny has the capability to put up 80+ points, but we already have 5 forwards up there, and our 3rd defensemen is more important than our 6th scorer.

by orangeandblack20 on Sep 13, 2009 12:54 AM EDT reply actions

howmany

how many of these are u going to do .. and JVR should of been higher and is still not getting votes .. the future of our franchise is more important .. hes gonna be a top line player for the next 5 years

by jack is better than asante on Sep 13, 2009 2:54 AM EDT reply actions

Never really thought of it. Hopefully 25, but this won’t be continuing through the season.

JVR is valuable, but Braydon Coburn will be on the backline for years, possibly longer than TImonen and Pronger, but he’s still on the board. I know he wasn’t picked #2 overall, but still.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 13, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions

really?

couborn was considered by many to be a big let down last year .. i like him a lot .. but he could be on his way out of town after this season if he doesnt bouce back .. hes going to command a big raise ..and with the cap situation .. he is going to have to prove hes worth the extra money

by jack is better than asante on Sep 14, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions

Fair points

and it’s definitely a possibility. Personally, I think Coburn regressed, but I wouldn’t say he was a big let down. Maybe he does command Mike Komisarek type money, at which point the Flyers won’t resign him. But I don’t expect him to ask for too much. The going rate seems to be around $4 million, which is a $2.7 million raise. That’s Randy Jones’ cap hit, so it’s feasible.

I agree with you though, he has to improve this year or the Flyers won’t offer him a big raise.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 14, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions

too close too call

You could put Hartnell, Briere, and Coburn in these spots. Each guy is equally important to the team. I had voted Coburn in the last round and I have no problem with Hartnell winning that spot. I voted Coburn for this spot as I think D is due. Briere could find his way to this spot very easily. My choice was made easier by Brieres recent injury episodes. (will he play another full season again?) Your value to the team degrades if you are not on the ice.

On another note, Camp is open!!!!! finally hockey is back in town!!!!

by craiger6 on Sep 13, 2009 5:46 AM EDT reply actions

Nice to see JVR getting some votes after his huge rookie game.

I voted Briere, because at his best he is way better than Coburn at his best.

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by Ben Rothenberg on Sep 13, 2009 6:10 AM EDT reply actions

Briere

I will not argue that A healthy Briere is more valueable and better player then Coburn. Of course they play different positions also. Dare I say that Briere is offensively better then Coburn and Coburn is defensively better then Briere.
That said, A HEALTHY Briere would be better suited for this spot, but, He needs to be on the ice to provide value to the team. The last 2 seasons of injuries I think he has been more of a liability to the team. He says he is healthy and has been on a rigorous training regimen so, I hope he will have a great year. I just cant say he is more valueable to the team than Coburn based on his past .

by craiger6 on Sep 13, 2009 7:21 AM EDT up reply actions

The cap hit of the size of Brieres certainly does not provide value to the team if he is injured and not on the ice.

by craiger6 on Sep 13, 2009 7:24 AM EDT up reply actions

I don’t understand how someone could consider JVR more valuable to the Flyers than Briere or Coburn.

by Ben Feldman on Sep 13, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions

lol

i been voting for him since number 3 bro .. its a joke he should of been top 5 .. first line center for the next 5 to 10 years is more important than pronger who will be dead weight in 2 to 3 years

by jack is better than asante on Sep 14, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions

first line center for the next 5 to 10 years

You’ve been voting for him since #3 and you don’t even know what position he plays. Good job.

by MarioD on Sep 14, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions

briere

When Briere is playing well, we are usually winning.

by jnurk17 on Sep 13, 2009 10:18 AM EDT reply actions

Closest vote yet. I say we have the two of them settle this in the parking lot.

Coburn has to fight from his knees, though, to even it out.

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by Ben Rothenberg on Sep 13, 2009 4:22 PM EDT reply actions

They had a chance already...

…during the Winter Classic Jersey unveiling. Both players were there. Too bad they didn’t know about this poll.

Being the 9th-most-important player for the Flyers is still better than being the 2nd-most-famous groundhog in Pennsylvania.

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by mikefive on Sep 13, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions

JVR

Not sure why a player who will probably not make the big club initially could be getting votes for a top ten player with Coburn, a D3, and Briere still out there. I would like to think with the season less than 3 weeks from open, our roster would start looking like one. Betts was invited and for good reason, shouldn’t he have as much right to be listed as JVR. I like the idea of adding Betts to the PK and centering the 4th line, lightening the load for Gags, Richie and other PK’ers to do more damage offensively.

by Crosby sucks on Sep 13, 2009 5:15 PM EDT reply actions

Anyone else think Betts should be included in the poll for the 10th most valuable?

I haven’t added him yet since 1) I haven’t added anyone since the 1st poll; 2) He isn’t under contract with the Flyers; 3) Adding him alone snubs a lot of people (Marc-Andre Bourdon; Kevin Marshall; Andreas Nodl; Jon Kalinski; Patrick Maroon); 4) I don’t expect him to get many votes, especially top 10 most valuable votes; and 5) The latest quotes from him suggest he is a long shot to make the team.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 13, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions

I don’t see it being this year, but i can certainly see big things from marshall in the future. Every time i see him he impresses me both defensively and offensively.

by JpH89 on Sep 13, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions

I agree. I was very impressed with him in the rookie game, especially his physical play. He’s already such a smart player and he’s only going to get better the more he plays.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 13, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Betts

I think voting should be held for players with contracts for the big team ( including 2 way)
I do think Betts would be a nice addition to the fourth line and pk but, since he does not have a contract he should not be added to the list

by craiger6 on Sep 13, 2009 6:53 PM EDT reply actions

fair enuf

Never meant to suggested he’d be a top 10 MVP, after Coburn and Briere it kind of wide open. Only saying if he does make it he should garner some votes considering Cote and Asham are pulling in a couple.

by Crosby sucks on Sep 13, 2009 7:17 PM EDT reply actions

I agree

I just don’t know when to add the players trying to make the team. Because some people might find Kevin Marshall more valuable than Riley Cote. Or Darroll Powe.

So, I’m glad you said something, because I’m going to add players based on people requesting them in the comments.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 13, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions

close

I cant believe how close the voting is. Every time I pull the screen up someone else is up by a point. I am anxious to see the next vote though. I think there will be a considerable drop-off in talent and voting to be widely spread out between players.

by craiger6 on Sep 14, 2009 6:06 AM EDT reply actions