Bruins Come Back, Take 2010 Winter Classic From Flyers in OT
by Travis Hughes on Jan 1, 2010 5:38 PM EST
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BOSTON -- Former Flyer Mark Recchi tipped in a bomb from Derek Morris late in the third period to tie the 2010 Winter Classic and send the game into overtime, where Marco Sturm put the game winner past Michael Leighton to give the Bruins the 2-1 victory. Fans at Fenway Park exploded, as did the fireworks from atop the storied baseball stadium.
The Flyers held the lead for most of the game on a goal from -- no, this isn't a typo -- Danny Syvret at the 4:42 mark of the second period. Tim Thomas took himself out of the play by cross-checking the pesky Scott Hartnell in the back, allowing the Syvret shot from the top of the circle to hit the back of the net.
Claude Julien defended his goaltender after the game, saying that nine times out of ten, his on-edge play will lead to saves instead of game-jeopardizing mistakes. Thomas was lucky that it didn't cost his team the game, considering the offense was quite weak on each side.
The puck bounced around like a tennis ball for the whole game, and there were a ton of quirks on the Fenway ice that led to uncertainty by the players when it came to taking risks. The players seemed to get more comfortable in the environment as the game went on, but early on things were very hesitant.
"I think for everybody it settled in after a little bit," said Peter Laviolette post game. "The shots were pretty low and the scoring chances were pretty low for the first seven or eight minutes. I think they generated maybe three shots and we generated two. There wasn't a lot going on. I think everybody wanted to play safe hockey and make sure they didn't have an gaps defensively."
Still, the ice was in excellent shape according to everybody who spoke about it, and with both teams facing the same advantages and disadvantages, the minor problems with bouncing pucks didn't really give anybody an advantage.
The Flyers absolutely dominated the Bruins in the second, outshooting them 12-6 in the session. But sitting back in the third period and taking a few weak penalties ultimately cost them in the end.
Kimmo Timonen was called for a tripping penalty late in the game that led to Recchi's goal, a call that many Flyers fans in attendance were not happy with. It was pretty inevitable that the orange and black would take a penalty or two, though, considering the way the Bruins took them to the task in the third.
"I thought that was probably their best period," Laviolette said. Still, the Flyers held the lead until late, but in the end it came down to not burying their own scoring chances, mostly thanks to being too fancy with the puck.
"I thought we played a sound offensive game right until the end," said Laviolette. "We had our opportunities, even in the overtime, and we couldn't get the second goal."
Dan Carcillo gave Shawn Thornton a beating in the first period in the first ever outdoor fight in NHL history. As he entered the penalty box, he raised his arms in celebration while turning to the Flyers fans situated along the third base line.
Carcillo told us yesterday in the locker room that he'd fight if the situation in the game came up, but according to two Flyers fans I talked to after the game who met up with Carcillo at a bar on New Years Eve, he wanted to fight all along and he "promised" them the first Winter Classic fight. Reports here today say that Thornton and Carcillo were winking at each other during warmups and that they planned on fighting all along as well.
After the jump, questions with answers and the comment of the day.
Questions With Answers
- How does the weather effect today's game? The weather today was absolutely perfect. It wasn't too cold and there was no precipitation.
- Do we see the first ever Winter Classic fight today? Yes. Dan Carcillo, as mentioned, beat up on Shawn Thornton.
- Are Flyers fans visible and vocal, especially through the camera on national television? Flyers fans were loud and proud all day, and even after the loss, they're still causing a ruckus on the streets outside of the ballpark.
- The Flyers have played simple road hockey over the last four games. Can they keep it up? For most of the game, yes, the Flyes played a solid road game. At times, though, they tried to get too fancy in the offensive end, making extra, unnecessary passes. Those extra passes thwarted scoring chances more often then they created them.
- How does Simon Gagne follow up his hat trick from the other night? Gagne performed admirably, but he too was a culprit in the trying to get too fancy department.
- Both teams pitched shutouts on Wednesday night. Does the offense go cold for both teams? It certainly did. Who knows how much the outdoor aspect of the game played a part in that, and the puck certainly bounced a lot. Because of that, players had to be cautious in not taking big risks.
- Is Matt Carle named to the USA Olympic team today? Nope, Carle was snubbed by Brian Burke and the USA brass.
Comment of the Day
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Danny Syvret, offensive dynamo.
We're not done from Boston just yet. Later tonight or tomorrow we'll have a full post-mortem of the event, from fan reaction, all the pomp and circumstance and other fun stuff we've found out over the last few days. In the meantime, check out SBNation.com, Stanley Cup of Chowder, and Over The Monster for more coverage, and give us your thoughts on this game below.
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They played well, they had their chances, and they made some big mistakes.
At least they played a full game of hard hockey
Carter has to stop whincing and keep his eyes open when he shoots
Giroux has to shoot the puck more
Danny has to stop taking Fricking penalties
Colburn has to stop screwing up like he dose
Carbomb has to keep up his smart play
Harnell please read the above
Betts has to just stay healthy
JVR keep it up!
Syvret I hope you play like this all year!
refs killed a good game in the last 5 minutes…with 1 crap call that lead to Flyers losing momentum and then getting a real penalty against them which leads to us falling apart and losing….Boston needs to thank all the refs that made it possible.
Skip the Pitt, Move on down to Broad Street....
Philadelphia Flyers / Columbus Blue Jackets, 'nuff said.
another frustrating part to this is, granted this is not the Stanley Cup nor does it decide if we sink or swim…but this is a Winter Classic, you won’t see the Flyers in another one of these for another 10-15 years….and with the Pens winning theirs, it is just another 1up on us. Refs should just let the teams play…this is really a once in a lifetime, albeit, once in a great while chance and Flyers looked like the winners of this game til the last 5 minutes or so.
Skip the Pitt, Move on down to Broad Street....
Philadelphia Flyers / Columbus Blue Jackets, 'nuff said.
To put things into perspective…I am a competitive person and I have admitted numerous times that I’m still learning about this team. I have been really only been a dedicated fan for only 5 seasons or so, though I have always rooted Flyers practically since I saw my first game on television (mainly because we were the last people to get stuff like internet and cable). That being said…
Let me try to break down what I’m trying to say:
a. I hate to see Flyers lose PERIOD (esp. games they shoulda/woulda/coulda won)
b. I don’t like Pitt, respect them as a good team, don’t have to like em. (plus who doesn’t have Pens fan friend and have a slightly healthy competition with them because of the history, or any friend who roots for their hockey club.)
c. You know this is going to be re-lived at least til the next Classic and you won’t hear the end of it. Since we lost, it isn’t something you want to hear too much of.
d. Not saying that it is a bragging right, though you could technically throw it out there if you were looking for some mud to sling at us Flyers faithful, but it’s more of another blemish on the season and to the team….Winter Classic is still a game and we needed to take 2 points out of Fenway. Who know’s what it could have done for morale.?.
e. The Winter Classic is a main-stay in the NHL now and with limited chances to even participate, wouldn’t you want to win yours???
Skip the Pitt, Move on down to Broad Street....
Philadelphia Flyers / Columbus Blue Jackets, 'nuff said.
by PhillyPhan85 on Jan 1, 2010 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
Fortunately Comcast is buying NBC, and Comcast owns the Flyers.
In 5 years, possibly 4 the Flyers will play the Pens in Happy Valley
by Prometheus74 on Jan 2, 2010 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
NHL is now making it a Bid process washing their hand from any conspiracy claims from angry fans whose teams are passed over. So the FLYERS vs Pens could be in as little as 3 years from now.
by Prometheus74 on Jan 2, 2010 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
Next Years Classic
Rangers vs Capitals in the new Giants stadium.
Work with the NFL and schedule it so the NHL can have the place 2 weeks before New years!!
Not only will it be epic, Jerry Jones will be so jealous!
No.
To hold it in the new Giants’ Stadium they’d first have to get the NFL to schedule both the Jets and Giants on the road that next day, which is nearly impossible. (They each need 8 home games out of 17 possible weeks, with limited ability to both play at home the same week.)
Becase they have two NFL teams playing in Giants’ stadium, it’s not available for what the NHL wants to do. They started building the rink in Fenway like three weeks ago, and won’t take it down for I believe two more weeks. The best they could get in Giants’ Stadium would be access to the place five days before the game, and be completely gone by six days after (for possible home NFL playoff game).
Finally, Jerry Jones has the Super Bowl in February 2011, so I doubt he’d be jealous of the Winter Classic.
Well then how about the old Giants Stadium. Is that going to still be standing on 1/1/11?
by Prometheus74 on Jan 2, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
I think its coming down during the summer. Not sure though.
by philiafan14364 on Jan 2, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
You could sense it coming. As the ice became chippier, the Bruins started to dominate the Flyers. Questionable call/s, sure — they were there on both sides. I thought there were a lot of weird and late offside calls in the first period specifically, but otherwise I think the Fraser did well (for the most part) to let them play.
The Flyers lost this game, the Bruins didn’t really win it. Once again they weren’t able to finish … but you know what? It was a 61:57 minute effort. They obviously started breaking down as the third period progressed, but it wasn’t for lack of effort.
Oh well.
Once again they weren’t able to finish
The Bruins led for 0:00 elapsed time. Thats just… ugh.
by philiafan14364 on Jan 2, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
Much more updated above, including news on the Carcillo/Thornton fight.
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Definitely disappointing, but the Flyers have played much worse at times in the past two months. I thought JVR looked like he was just going through the motions out there. Despite that, I was surprised by the play of Carcillo and Hartnell. So there’s things that need to be worked on, but a lot that is working for the Flyers. I am optimistic about Sunday.
That was the worst ice conditions any of these guys have ever played an NHL game on, the boards were terribly bouncy, and the lighting was awful. Great way to play a hockey game. There was a fucking hole in the ice at the o zone face off dot for gods sake.
The Flyers should’ve won in OT as Briere shot into the open net, but the puck stuck to the crappy ice and the Bruins scored about 8 seconds later.
JVR needs to be taken off this fucking team and replaced with someone who can at least handle a god damn line change.
What type of contract does JVR have? Can they send him down or call him up without fear of his being snatched away?
I’m starting to agree with you. I like JVR, but he would be better suited playing on a scoring line with the Phantoms instead of on a checking line with us. If we want him to hone his offensive skills, he needs to be playing offense, which he ain’t doing here.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
JVR-Powe-Asham got lots of good scoring chances in this game they were cycling the puck and doing a good job for the 3rd line. More NHL experience the better 20 pts in 40 games and +2 on the year he is certainly not dragging this team down in anyway MarioD and was a non-factor in this game. He will probably end up with 40 pts or so on the year and is far cry for the -30 that MarioD predicted in August. But we lost so someone has to catch heat. I don’t understand the argument that less playing time at the NHL would be better for any young player the more they play the quicker they will get better. As long as they are not killing you on the defensive side of things that is fine to let the learn how to play in the big leagues by playing in the big leagues. Just as you could argue the great month he had was a fluke I could argue the bad month he had was the fluke but he was in no way a factor in the loss.
I don’t think he’s hurting the team per se, but he needs to “get up his oofense,” so to speak. The Flyers did that wtih Giroux last year and it certainly didn’t hurt his development, now did it?
By the same token I agree with you that the only way to learn the game at the highest level is to PLAY the game at the highest level. Maybe the Flyers can send him down for a stint so he can get into more offensive situations (power play, etc.) than he is up here. That will develop the most important part of his game.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
but he needs to "get up his oofense,"
So does the rest of the team, I dont think its fair to single him out just because hes young.
by philiafan14364 on Jan 2, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not trying to single him out or pick on him. I just want him to be the best player he can be, and some time in the minors can’t hurt. It’s not like Sbisa going back from pros to juniors. Again, look at Giroux last year.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Well, Giroux started the season in the AHL, but I understand your point.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 2, 2010 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
One day he will be awesome. It’s obvious that he is a skilled player who sees the ice well and can score.
Right now, though, he needs to work on a few things.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
I thought he played ok yesterday. Not great by any means, but there were a couple moments I remember specifically when he singlehandedly held the puck in the Bruins zone.
by philiafan14364 on Jan 2, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t throw JVR under the bus. The kid is only 20 . There are times on the cycle when he is totally dominating.
unfortunately the guys he has to cycle with are Powe and Asham not the best finishers on the team, coach has to tell him to be the “man” on the line and play a little more selfish take the puck to the net and such let Asham and Powe clean up the slop don’t try to set them up on finesse plays, I would like to see him moved to center so he can carry the puck more with Giroux moving up to RW where he should be JVR is a ideal candidate for 3rd line center (his size matches up well with Jordan Staal), only questions if he can handle the defensive responsibilities.
it just felt like they just wanted to hold on not bury the bruins. What a mistake.
I wasn't even a year old but I stayed up to be outside the Vet with my Dad and Mom when the Phillies won the World Series 1980.
under normal circumstances I would agree but with the wacky bounces not trying to push it do to much was probably the right call unfortunately the PK lets us down again on a questionable call but you had to feel that one coming, no pretty goals were going to be scored in this game and on a normal ice we probably would have netted 4 goals with the good looks we got, the more times the announcers kept saying “the ice is great” and the “conditions are perfect” you had to know that something was wrong the were hitting the ice with fire extinguishers 2 minutes after the Zamboni was out there. The ice and boards sucked had to play simple hockey to score it took the Bruins one extra period to figure that out.
the passing was way to much in the end second and most of the third. it just felt like they were trying things not just punching it home.
I wasn't even a year old but I stayed up to be outside the Vet with my Dad and Mom when the Phillies won the World Series 1980.
by Christopher A on Jan 1, 2010 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
Classic calls by crappy refs
Bad call on Timmonen. No call Chara for throwing Hartnell away from the empty net. No call on the Bruins for replacing 1 forward with 2 on the last rush. It wasn’t until a defenseman deep in the Bruins zone jumped off to have just 4!
The Flyers needed to score about 5 goals today. Thomas played amazing.
Phigment
yes we had our chances but 9 pts in last 5 games, that’s whats going to get us closer playoff position. Carter last year had at least 2 maybe more goals he should have put away against the Pens in the playoffs when we were up 2 games to 1. It seems he is having problems finishing since then. He had another golden chance today, those have to be goals. that’s what turns losses into wins and moves you to the next round come cup time
I think the ice might have been more of a factor than the referees. Mario is right – Briere fanned on the puck because it got stuck to the ice.
Still, we got a point, generally played pretty well, and have 9 out of 10 points on this trip so far. More to be happy about than upset about.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
USA Olympic hockey team
Hopefully Thomas and Miller are on their game. Not a lot of fire power up front. Chris Drury made it, David Backes?? Paul Martin hasn’t played since mid Nov. I will pull for team USA but I think Russia absolutely loaded. A potential 2nd line Datysuk, Semin and Radulov WOW
Carle got snubbed for sure he should have made the team I route USA but in my opinion the less Flyers that play in the Olympics the better. I bet if Crosby gets hurt the NHL stops sending their pros. I said it here 1st remember that.
Are there any non-Russian KHL players on these squads?
If Ovechkin blows out Crosby’s knee, I don’t think Bettman could actually do anything about it, could he?
1. Yes (Czech Republic, for example).
2. I don’t know if the NHL can suspend a player for an action against another NHLer in international play, but I also don’t know if the NHL wouldn’t just be able to suspend him for it indirectly (i.e., suspending him for his “generally reckless on-ice behavior”).
The Latvian team is like 80% KHL.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Jan 1, 2010 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
The NHL won’t keep sending their pros until at least after 2012. With the games being in Russia, Ovechkin, Semin, and all those guys who are from there are going to play in those Olympics whether the NHL wants them to or not. They’ve already said that they’ll straight up leave their NHL clubs if the league doesn’t let them play.
The Olympics in their home country is a million times more important to them (and probably most players, especially Euros) than the NHL ever will be.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 3, 2010 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
Not to egg this on, but for the moment I will put on my tin foil hat and channel my inner Gramps:
“…one replay showed Boston had an extra man — six in all — on the ice for the game-winner. Sturm’s goal in the slot off a Patrice Bergeron shot from the left circle should have been called back. Worse, the whistle should have blown long in advance of the play.”
I’ve only seen this said at that link and phila.bright’s Twitter. I assume if it were true (Lavy doesn’t believe it, but apparently Carter, Richards, and Timonen do) someone else would have jumped on this. Still, anybody have any evidence one way or the other?
\Foil off/
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 2, 2010 12:56 AM EST reply actions
I heard them talking about it on press row, Panaccio and Carchidi. Carchidi said he could only see four on the replay and Panaccio said he was just going to run with what Kimmo said. Clearly he did a little more than just that.
I didn’t include it because nobody in the press box (including myself) noticed it at the time, Laviolette didn’t mention it, and every replay we saw didn’t show it.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 2, 2010 9:27 AM EST up reply actions
4 plus the goalie. He said “six in all” because, well, Gramps likes to make people think what you just did. Rather than say “an extra man”, “six in all” sounds so much worse.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 2, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
The last two winter classic winners lost in the cup finals. We don’t need that bad mojo when we go there this year. I am still here in Boston, and the game was upsetting, but it was an awesome experience, and at the end of the day it was a regular season hockey game. Let’s just hope we get the Bruins in the playoffs, because that is where Boston really shines.
by burtonboypa on Jan 2, 2010 9:00 AM EST via mobile reply actions
The last two winter classic losers either missed the playoffs, or didn’t even make the conference finals. Bad mojo either way.
But you have a point that Boston doesn’t play well in the playoffs.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 2, 2010 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
Chicago made the Conf finals last year….
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 2, 2010 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
I did that thing where you combine two things because you can’t decide what to say: “didn’t even make the finals” and “lost in the conference finals” and it came out "didn’t even make the conference finals.
Yes, you’re right. My bad.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 2, 2010 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
Flyers are the first road team to lose the Winter Classic…maybe that reverses the bad mojo some?
I’m reaching here, I know this.
awesome reference.
Skip the Pitt, Move on down to Broad Street....
Philadelphia Flyers / Columbus Blue Jackets, 'nuff said.
by PhillyPhan85 on Jan 3, 2010 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
We missed sooooo many oppertunites in this one
Gotta convert on some of the breakaways. Oh well, all things considered, I thought we played a pretty good game. Looks like the clouds might be breaking on this team… hopefully.
1 pt loss
I know we technically loss this game but we did gain a point in a world without a SO if the game ended in an old school 1-1 would we be this upset? I had the point system and have every since the lockout how team gets award the same 2 points for a 6-0 win as team that wins in a shootout is beyond me. I wish the NHL would abide by international convention and go to 3 point regulation win and 2 points for the shootout / overtime winner and 1 pts for the loser. The league has claimed that such a system would be to complex fans are too stupid to understand a fourth column in the record and that it would upset history with teams finishing with 150 points or more in the season. All these arguments are stupid and pointless in the end the NHL wants more teams in the playoff hunt at the end of the season and a point system that devalues wins and losses is the best way to do so. It is what it is and if I had my way the Flyers would have just cost themselves 2 points instead of 1 but at least Boston wouldn’t haven’t gotten full credit for that win either.
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