Game 45, Preview and Open Thread: Provincial Revenge, Dallas Stars at Philadelphia Flyers
by Travis Hughes on Jan 12, 2010 5:12 PM EST
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PrintDallas Stars at Philadelphia Flyers, Jan 12, 2010 7:00 PM EST
We're quite lucky the Philadelphia Flyers are an Eastern Conference team. Sitting with 47 points in the standings through 44 games, the home team sits in ninth place in the conference, just one point behind seventh place Ottawa and eighth place Montreal. We're also just four points out of fifth place.
Compare that with the Dallas Stars, a team that compares quite well with the Flyers. They've been extremely disappointing so far this season thanks to weak goaltending at times, bad defense in front of weak goaltending, an inability to close out games in overtime or the shootout, and more recently, the invisibility of their offensive power.
While the Flyers have found a way to climb back into the picture recently, the Stars have fallen off the map. If they were in the Eastern Conference instead of the West, they'd sit in sixth place. Instead, the Western Conference offers them a nice cozy view from tenth, four points out of the playoffs and eight out of sixth.
It's that one stat in there that's seemingly been their kryptonite more than anything this year. With a whopping 11 OT losses, the Stars have shot themselves in the foot once getting to the extra session. You could argue, of course, that at least they picked up a point in those 11 games, but the Stars 4-11 overtime record is just plain old pathetic. They're also one of the worst shootout teams in the league with a 2-7 mark. If Dallas wins five more of those 11 games, they're in the playoffs. It's simple math.
On the road, the Stars are a terrible team lately. They're 7-10-6 overall away from Texas, but they have just one win in their last 11 on the road and have been shutout in two of their last three road games. This looks like the perfect team for the Flyers to continue their jaunt against, no?
It's no secret that the Flyers are rolling in every aspect of the game right now. Be it the goaltending from Michael Leighton, the power play which is back up to third in the league, the penalty kill which has been spectacular over the last nine games, or the five-on-five play, they're starting to look like the team we thought they could be.
Mike Ribeiro is out with a vicious throat injury that he suffered last week, and that means we'll see a lot more of Mike Modano and Loui Eriksson tonight. Erikkson has distinguished himself as an offensive gem in Dallas, currently leading them in goals with 18 on the year.
The Flyers will go with the same lineup they've kept for a while now, as you can understand. Ray Emery will be on the bench tonight while Michael Leighton gets the start yet again. That means Brian Boucher is your healthy scratch. Leighton has certainly earned the right to play, as he's yet to lose in regulation as a Flyer. Clearly, though, the team won't hold three goalies for the rest of the season. There's a problem brewing here, but it's one of the cliche "good problems to have."
After the jump, expected line combinations, starting goaltenders, questions to answer tonight and our in-game discussion.
Flyers Line Combinations - no changes here
Hartnell - Carter - Briere
Gagne - Richards - Giroux
JVR - Powe - Asham
Carcillo - Betts - Laperriere
Carle - Pronger
Timonen- Syvret
Coburn - Bartulis
Stars Line Combinations - via Mike Heika, Dallas Morning News
Neal - Richards - Eriksson
Morrow - Wandell - Benn
Ott - Modano - Lehtinen
Sutherby - Petersen - Barch
Fistric - Robidas
Skrastins - Niskanen
Daley - Fortunus
Starting Goaltenders
Questions To Answer
- Can the Flyers effectively pepper Marty Turco with shots?
- The Stars have been trying to loosen up on their road trip, including making a tourist trip to the Art Museum yesterday. Do they play loose as a result?
- Steve Ott is one of those agitator Sean Avery-type players. Can he effectively get under the skin of the Flyers, notable Dan Carcillo who has reined in his penalty-taking ways lately?
- The Flyers are a better team on the PP, PK, at faceoffs, in saves, in goals per game, and goals against per game. So, uh, we win right?
- Can Leighton finally earn a shutout at home with the Flyers after giving up a couple in the third period?
Tonight's game will be broadcast locally on CSN Philly and 610 WIP. As always, join us here for the conversation and LET'S GO FLYERS!
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The Magickal Senators!
Sitting with 47 points in the standings through 44 games, the home team sits in ninth place in the conference, just one point behind seventh place Ottawa and eighth place Ottawa.
The Sens are so special that they occupy two places in the standings.
I’m a wise-ass, I know.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
I didn’t edit it and it says Montreal. Mildly confused.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 12, 2010 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
\Swoops cape and flys away into the night/
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 12, 2010 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
Why is Mr. Costanza with a man in a cape?
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 12, 2010 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
Well, it is good cape weather.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 12, 2010 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
The game may be delayed because the refs are stuck in traffic. Morganti just said this on Flyers Pre-Game Live.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 12, 2010 6:40 PM EST reply actions
That’s just funny.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 12, 2010 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
Travis
Didn’t Leighton get a shutout against the Rangers?
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 12, 2010 6:46 PM EST reply actions
Good call. I was drunk in Boston that night.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 12, 2010 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
Game will start on time, refs just got there.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 12, 2010 6:47 PM EST reply actions
Speaking of ref’s, did everyone else see the Burrows incident?
http://www.fromtherink.com/2010/1/12/1247722/the-burrows-incident
Yeah, that’s pretty crazy stuff.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 12, 2010 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
When I first saw it I thought Burrows had some kind of weird continuous twitch going on. Took me a while to realise he’s probably on a bike.
BINGO!
It was driving me nuts tying to figure out what that rocking motion was
I was wondering if he had a mild form of autism or somthing
by Prometheus74 on Jan 12, 2010 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t always trust what NHL players say, but OTOH, I don’t know why people continually give the benefit of the doubt to the officials. They are humans, too, and therefore prone to having inherent biases (as much as they try not to) and holding grudges. I mean, in the thousands of refs there have been over the years, you mean to tell me that there’s only ONE Tim Donaghy?
I actually believe him. I don’t know why – especially since the one penalty seemed reasonable to call – but something about Auger… I feel like he robbed us a couple times.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 12, 2010 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
I think he’s robbed everybody a couple of times.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 12, 2010 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
What happened?
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 12, 2010 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
Just audio if you want that.
http://flyers.nhl.com/club/RadioPlayer.htm?id=2009020683
Some think too much, then come too soon
I just curse the sun, so I can howl at the moon
The only one I’ve been able to find is a Stream Torrent link on MyP2P. Better than nothing.
What I want to know is how the hell, with all of the Flyers fans supposedly out there, why every other team is able to put up a good 4-5 streams a night and there are times where we don’t even have one.
You “fans” need TV Tuner cards for those of us who are too poor to get Center Ice and no longer live around Philly.
(That’s a joke of course. Well, to an extent, anyway.)
hockey. wooo
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Power play, Syvret got hammered.
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Fuck, if we lose Syvret, how will we ever score again?
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Ott did the damage. What a goon.
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Woah, Coatesy stepping up with the suit…
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ANOTHER power play. Sweet life.
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Carcillo drawing ANOTHER penalty.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 12, 2010 7:15 PM EST reply actions
Let’s score on this one please.
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Man, the power play just looks so good. Even if we don’t score I could watch it all day.
A well-oiled PP is an art form.
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doesn’t appear there is
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 12, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
Pickin’ up the trash. SCORE!
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First goal in 10 straight games.
That’s the difference.
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They gave credit to Briere but it did look like Hartnell.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 12, 2010 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
If we win tonight we’re in 8th. If Ottawa loses we’re in 7th.
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gotta keep me updated, in State College with no Flyers. Only have this board for up to information
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 12, 2010 7:25 PM EST reply actions
Here’s an audio link.
http://flyers.nhl.com/club/RadioPlayer.htm?id=2009020683
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I just curse the sun, so I can howl at the moon
I’m currently in a place where I have no TV and can’t listen to the audio. Which pretty much sucks.
by StarbladeMKIII on Jan 12, 2010 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
wanna know how bad my internet is? i get a pause every 20 seconds lol
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 12, 2010 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
the audio stream. if it was the video it’d be every 3 seconds at best
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 12, 2010 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
http://myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=62449&part=sports
They have links there, but you need the program StreamTorrent to use the links
What are you on, 1950s dial up?
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 12, 2010 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
Airwave Networks. The most poorly constructed wireless internet company ever
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 12, 2010 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
Dallas just dominated that shift, no really good chances but they kept the puck in our zone for like 2 minutes.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 12, 2010 7:28 PM EST reply actions
$25 upper level tix for Blue jackets
For all Students type in 09STUDENT in the Promo code for tickets at comcast tix……get $25 tickets to get to see umberger next tuesday
i approve of this message. If I went to OSU i’d definitely be there
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 12, 2010 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
.. and Hitchcock. Maybe.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 12, 2010 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
I’m surprised Rick Nash hasn’t tried to escape the NHL graveyard, the Columbus Undertakers
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 12, 2010 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
He wants to stay there. Supposedly the B.J’s(yes I know what I just did) are playing better. Hitch will probably still be around for the game.
ever been to Ohio? Boring place. not the type of environment that fosters hockey
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 12, 2010 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
Carter
Just rang one off the Crossbar. Ugh. Great shot though.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 12, 2010 7:32 PM EST reply actions
Hartnell just went down the tunnel and the trainer followed.
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needs more conditioner in hair
look at it the positive way, as long as we have one injured, we can continue the goalie carousel!
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 12, 2010 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
sarcasm X, sarcasm
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 12, 2010 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
He’s back.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 12, 2010 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
DET 0
NYI 1
I really did not think the Red Wings would be out of it this year.
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I still think they’ll be there at the end. They’ll turn it on and be an eight or seven seed in name only, kinda like the Ducks last year.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 12, 2010 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
when the wings are all healthy i’d be afraid if i was chicago in the playoffs that will be the first round match up
DET 0
NYI 2
What is everyones opinion in rooting for Eastern conference teams playing Western teams?
On the one hand, I want them to win as I get tired of hearing how the East is a weaker conference.
On the other hand, I don’t want teams to get more points and risk Flyers playoff positions.
Thoughts?
I always root for the West, unless its a totally downtrodden East team.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Jan 12, 2010 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
Abysmal Dallas Power Play is abysmal
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 12, 2010 7:37 PM EST reply actions
There’s Bill Clement selling hats now…
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Syrvet upper body injury, not gonna return
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 12, 2010 7:40 PM EST reply actions
well, that looked like an obvious shoulder injury. I’m not a doctor, but what’s more common: dislocated, separated, or broken (collarbone)?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 12, 2010 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
Separated, I believe.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 12, 2010 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
Quick question: with the conditioning associated with the Lavvy system, exactly how much are a defenseman’s skills valued? Is it more than just being able to skate?
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 12, 2010 7:42 PM EST reply actions
I’m not sure I get the question, but I’ll take a stab.
The D has to be smart and know when and when not to pinch. And when they do jump up into the offensive zone they need the wheels to be able to get back on time.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 12, 2010 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
Basically what Travis said is true…the key difference between Lavvy and Steven’s system, as it relates to defensemen is that Steven’s didn’t want his defensemen going much past the opposing teams blue line. Lavy is all for them pinching but again, they have to be able to get back. Lavvy’s system only works if the forwards give 110% to back checking.
basically, what I wanted to ask is how much of a dropoff in effectiveness would there be if lets say we had a defensive minded forward play as the 6th defenseman
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 12, 2010 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not sure who would fit the bill, really. I mean, Pyorala’s the guy that’s there but I’m not sure if he has that much versatility. Good question though.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 12, 2010 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
I’d imagine another call up though.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 12, 2010 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
any chance for Matsu?
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 12, 2010 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
For D?
Looking at the Phantoms’ stats, surprising front-runner may just be Joonas Lehtivuori. Eight fewer games than Bourdon, just as many points, 7 better in plus/minus, and only has 6 PIMS (38 for Bourdon).
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 12, 2010 7:58 PM EST up reply actions
I like Joonas from the teensy bit I’ve seen. He started playing professionally in Finland at 17 with Ilves Tampere, so he’s got decent experience for a 21-year-old. Helminen and Jalo came from the same SM-liiga team.
Besides, we need more Finns. We’re under the three-Finn threshold from when we had Timonen, Kukkonen, and Vaananen.
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I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"
My first thought is Bourdon, but maybe Mormina?
by memphisbrando on Jan 12, 2010 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
Holy crap, I totally forgot Pyorala ever existed.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Jan 12, 2010 7:58 PM EST up reply actions
Personally I really like Pyorala but he didn’t do much of anything when he was playing on the first line.
He’s a pretty solid defensive forward, but he doesn’t do much of anything offensively.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 12, 2010 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
He always does, if you think about it
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 12, 2010 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
So much for the shutout.
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Great job JVR!
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 12, 2010 8:02 PM EST reply actions
WOOOOOOO!
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philadelphia meet resilience. resilience meet philadelphia
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 12, 2010 8:02 PM EST reply actions
eh, that was for the team that started this year. much different team now
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 12, 2010 8:06 PM EST up reply actions
Monster shift there. Huge for momentum
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 12, 2010 8:03 PM EST reply actions
Very nice bounce back. Way to be, third line.
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Coatesy just got a stick to the face.
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Hartnell, Giroux, and JVR are now all tied for fifth on the team in points.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 12, 2010 8:05 PM EST reply actions
Bad penalty there by Scottie
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 12, 2010 8:06 PM EST reply actions
Powe with delay of game, tough break with 2 secs left in Stars pp.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 12, 2010 8:09 PM EST reply actions
KIMMO! Shortie!
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i’ll see you a Brad Richards, and I’ll raise you a Timonen
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 12, 2010 8:10 PM EST reply actions
SHGs make me so friggin happy.
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What an awesome shot/non-pass.
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I know, and what a welcome sight it is!
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 12, 2010 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
haha, that was cool. He made the second call while on the mic.
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Morrow just got 4 mins in penalties due to unsportsmanlike after the original penalty.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 12, 2010 8:14 PM EST reply actions
I wanna see Pronger rip one from the point here.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 12, 2010 8:16 PM EST reply actions
There it was, what a bomb. Good save.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 12, 2010 8:16 PM EST reply actions
Number 4!
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Goal! Richie or Giroux? I think that one was Claude’s
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 12, 2010 8:17 PM EST reply actions
Hard to believe the kid doesn’t have more goals and points. He is unreal to watch.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 12, 2010 8:18 PM EST reply actions
haha, sorry Turco.
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Lapy from Powe. Turning into a rout. We gonna run Turco tonight?
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 12, 2010 8:19 PM EST reply actions
I almost feel bad for these people.
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Nope. They are from Dallas. Fuck them!
by Mitchell Green on Jan 12, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
who are these gods in orange
and can they please stay?
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Another goalie chased. Lovin it. Like McDonalds.
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Speaking of which doesn’t everyone at the game get free McDonald’s now that we have scored 4+ Goals? McDonald’s is going to go broke soon if we keep playing like this.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 12, 2010 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
This is so much better than any McDonalds I’ve ever had.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Jan 12, 2010 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
Can this night get any more awesomer?!?
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by Ben Rothenberg on Jan 12, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
Man.. I wish I was at home watching this game. Stuck here at work listening to an audio feed.
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no
watching this game is like getting a free lap dance
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This Fortunus guy really has been awful tonight.
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jesus
12 flyers on the scoring sheet
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And here comes the goonery.
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It’s like the planets have aligned just perfect or something tonight….
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 12, 2010 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
This one I’m not as thrilled about, but its still weird.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Jan 12, 2010 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed. I’d rather get some distance between the Flyers and Isles. More so than the Flyers just constantly beating on NY’s bastard step children from the Isle.
isles fans
are the real jersey boys
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Two minutes…well worth it.
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I really hope we don’t come out and lay an egg in the 3rd period.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 12, 2010 8:32 PM EST reply actions
whats wrong with carcillo
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for some reason I don’t think Carcillo feels pain
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 12, 2010 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
Wow. Just got home missed a lot obviously. They have another period like that and they are going to score more on Dallas than the eagles did I the last two games.
by MJDII on Jan 12, 2010 8:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions
If only one of our teams can beat Dallas, at least it’s the one whose season is still alive…
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 12, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
what’s this like the 4th goalie we cahsed outta here in 6 games?
you callin me a know-nothin? sir, i'll have you know i happen to know very little.
4th in 7, I think. I didn’t check but I remember writing before the other day about chasing three of the last six.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 12, 2010 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
Coatsey now reporting his head wound required 30-50 stitches. Lol, what a goofball
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 12, 2010 8:55 PM EST reply actions
if he catches Tavares he’s doing better than Tavares IMO because Tavares gets more TOI and powerplay time.
Yeah, but Tavares plays against much better competition.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 12, 2010 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
Individually I mean. He goes against the oppositions best defenders, usually.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 12, 2010 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
Don van Moustache, the 70’s adult film industry called they want their facial hair back.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 12, 2010 8:59 PM EST reply actions
Expected.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 12, 2010 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
Typical. Just hope for no OT.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Jan 12, 2010 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
Numero seis!
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I want double digits once in my life. Is that so much to ask?
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Gags was feeling left out, he only had an assist earlier…
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 12, 2010 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
Anybody else been really impressed by Bartulis tonight?
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 12, 2010 9:08 PM EST reply actions
He’s just winning bragging rights over Skrastins.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Jan 12, 2010 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
14 Flyers on the score sheet tonight, Jeez. Stars walked into a buzzsaw tonight, or maybe skated into one?
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 12, 2010 9:10 PM EST reply actions
I hate
Steve Ott
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 12, 2010 9:11 PM EST reply actions
Rare time Powe is on the receiving end of the onomatopoeia .
The Daily Forehand -- SB Nation's Tennis Destination.
Broad Street Hockey.
More or less.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 12, 2010 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
How spoiled have we gotten. Complaining about a 6 goal game and a 3 goal win haha.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 12, 2010 9:23 PM EST reply actions
The fact that we moved up 7 places in 3 weeks is insane.
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 12, 2010 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
Lane Kiffin is the new Head Coach at USC. What a prick.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 12, 2010 9:31 PM EST reply actions
He is a prick. But why is he a prick for taking a better job with more pay? In Southern Cal no less. Wouldn’t you do the same?
Because he was only at Tennessee for one year, I have no problem with what Brian Kelly did to be honest. However Kiffin negotiated his contract in bad faith if he is leaving after just one year, I hope USC gets raped by NCAA sanctions.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 12, 2010 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
But at the time Kiffin negotiated his contract he had no idea a shot at USC would open up. No one did.
What Brian Kelly did is 10x’s worse. He ditched his team before their biggest bowl game in history.
In CFB you have to do that because of recruiting. And with the ridiculous method used to determine national championship there was really not much to gain by Cincy winning(not to mention Tebow was going to obliterate anything in his way). Kiffin gave one year to a program and bolted, he is and always has been a jerk.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 12, 2010 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
Strange how I was initially on his side because the other side was Al Davis. But he actually managed to make Crazy Al look like the saner of the two.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Jan 12, 2010 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
What the fuck at Lane Kiffin.
I’m guessing the “secondary” infractions that the Vols faced were too much for him. very odd.
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