Oh, you wanted goals? Flyers pound Stars, 6-3
by Travis Hughes on Jan 12, 2010 11:03 PM EST
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[Boxscore] - [Dallas Reaction]
Remember back in June, July, August and September when you would lay in bed at night thinking about how awesome the Flyers were going to be this season? Remember the subsequent disappointment in November and December when those hopes went down the toilet? Remember the last three weeks, when things got awesome again?
The orange and black continued their jaunt towards becoming the team we all know they can be tonight with a convincing 6-3 win over the Dallas Stars. Six goals. A goaltender chased for the fourth time in seven games. 14 different Flyers with points, the first time that's happened in 13 years. Ian Laperriere picked up a Gordie Howe hat trick.
How much fun is this?
The Flyers just obliterated the Stars in every aspect of the game: on the power play, on the penalty kill, offensively, defensively, five-on-five, you name it. For most of the night, it looked like the Stars were still taking pictures on the steps of the Art Museum rather than trying to play a hockey game in South Philly.
It wasn't a perfect night for the Flyers, despite the domination of the opponent. They let down a little bit in the third period, allowing Stars' resident jerk Steve Ott to score two goals in the final ten minutes. Ott was also whistled for boarding early in the first period for hammering Danny Syvret into the boards. Syvret left the game and the Flyers are saying he has an upper-body injury. You might want to read 'upper-body injury' as 'separated shoulder' or 'shoulder injury.' That's speculation, but it certainly looked like he jammed his shoulder into the dasher on the play. The severity is obviously unknown at the time.
Scott Hartnell was also on and off the ice throughout the night. He only played one shift in the third period, but the team said after the game that he's sick and it's nothing too serious.
The Flyers win gives them a one point lead over the idle Montreal Canadiens. Ottawa also lost, meaning the Flyers leapfrog a point in front of them as well. Hello, seventh place. Hello, playoff positioning.
After the jump, questions with answers, highlights, and the comment of the night.
Questions With Answers
- Can the Flyers effectively pepper Marty Turco with shots? Early and often, with 11 in the first period. They were actually outshot by the Stars in the final totals, but that's no indication of how the game went.
- The Stars have been trying to loosen up on their road trip, including making a tourist trip to the Art Museum yesterday. Do they play loose as a result? They took penalties early and it was all downhill from there. If they were playing loose, they don't want to play loose in the future.
- Steve Ott is one of those agitator Sean Avery-type players. Can he effectively get under the skin of the Flyers, notable Dan Carcillo who has reined in his penalty-taking ways lately? His hit on Syvret in the first was a clear attempt at that. He jawed with Carcillo a little bit here and there and was able to score two goals in the third. Flyers win. Suck it, Ott.
- The Flyers are a better team on the PP, PK, at faceoffs, in saves, in goals per game, and goals against per game. So, uh, we win right? Yes. The trends continued.
- Can Leighton finally earn a shutout at home with the Flyers after giving up a couple in the third period? Nah, that ended pretty early. He didn't have his best game tonight but he still looked darn good. He has a tendency to get sloppy towards the ends of games, but he continues to get the job done.
Comment of the Night
Nope. They are from Dallas. **** them!
>> flyrsfrk05, not feeling sympathy for Stars fans
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Apparantly the last Flyer to record a Gordie Howe hat trick was Randy Jones, anyone else think thats weird considering some of the players on our team?
Giroux?
Game 3 of the playoffs last year… Claude had one.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Wasn’t official. He got a roughing penalty, even though it was a fight.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 12, 2010 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
Highlights are up now.
Just watched them on NHL.com. I had a prior commitment and missed the 2nd and 3rd periods, which means I missed all of the fun.
Re: the comment of the night, I went to a Flyers-Stars game in 1999 that ended in a 1-1 tie. It was during the Flyers’ late-season swoon when they went on a long winless streak. There was a really drunk fan a couple of rows behind me who amused our section with variations on the “Dallas Sucks” theme. My favorite was “Dallas sucks! The Flyers are GOOD!”
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
I know the people love Twitter and I appreciate the breaking news that you guys can obtain thusly, but I have to say, the feeds read like 5th grade study hall note passing. “At least one team in Philly can beat Dallas.” “Oh, yeah, well at least Dallas fans have class.” “Chants broke out tonight at the Flyers game of ‘Crosby sucks,’ while they were playing Dallas. What a pathetic fanbase.”
Ugh. I want to internet slap them all.
I hate Twitter. With a passion. It’s become so necessary though that it’s hard for me not to utilize it. We get a lot of traffic from Twitter anyway.
I actually just responded to that person who wrote the Crosby sucks thing. It’s someone called @penschat, and they’re obsessed with talking about what Flyers fans are doing and what Ovechkin’s doing. It’s pretty pathetic. Reading their feed is like looking up the term ‘inferiority complex’ in a dictionary.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 13, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
Here’s the problem I have with it: it allows too much of a forum for people to air their ignorant and baseless opinions. Did blogging really take up too much of their time that they needed to tweet something while they were in the middle of eating or on the toilet?
The Pittsburgh-Philly rivalry is so weird to me, because as much as we hate the Pens, that’s where it ends for me. But for Pittsburgh, it’s personal, and it extends to everything Philadelphia. I don’t really understand it, but then, that’s how we felt about NY for years before they ever considered us anything of a rival, so…
It’s an inferiority complex.
As much as I don’t want to admit it, I think a lot of Philadelphians have the same feelings towards NYC still. They’re the big city up the Turnpike, perennially looking down upon us. Personally, I don’t feel that way — at least not anymore, but I can understand a lot of people in our city having an inferiority complex about NYC.
It’s the same thing in Pittsburgh. Philadelphia controls Pennsylvania politics, controls the state, is a bigger city, is a more meaningful city in American history, etc. Pittsburgh can’t really hold a candle to Philadelphia, and I think it shows in how the fans act toward us.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 13, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
You've summed up my theory quite nicely
That’s been my take on things for a few years now. Philadelphia usually plays second fiddle to New York and Boston (and occasionally D.C.) in terms of media focus and adulation. In turn, Philly fans have tried to find ways to have their voices heard – unfortunately, not always in ways that shine the best light on the fanbases as a whole. It’s also allowed the fans to play the Rodney Dangerfield “no respect” card fairly regularly.
But Philly owns much of the state when it comes to national focus on Pennsylvania. For the reasons you mentioned, as well as much of the sports media tends to focus more on Philly sports (at times, due to being the “squeaky wheel”). And even worse for Pittsburgh, the one sport that Philadelphia doesn’t have a major presence in is controlled in the state by yet another rival city/program (college football, Penn State).
It’s an inferiority complex that’s just rolled downhill.
"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
Here’s the problem I have with [Twitter]: it allows too much of a forum for people to air their ignorant and baseless opinions.
You’ve also described:
- An interview / press conference featuring Sarah Palin
- Puck Daddy
- 3/4 of the blogosphere
- 85-90% of the internet in general
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Clarification
By “Puck Daddy,” I mean the readers, not the writers.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
An interview / press conference featuring Sarah Palin
haha. Completely random, but I was thinking last night that I kind of want to hang out with her for a day just to see if she really is as dumb as “the liberal media” makes her out to be. I mean, when she’s not trying to get attention or win over Joe the Plumber, she has to be normal, right? Or was I just hopped up on pills?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 13, 2010 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
Pretty sure she is as dumb as she seems. But at the very least you get to stare at her for a while. Awkward as it may be.
Bo you can’t turn out the lights incase you need to twitter during the deed.
by M from Pdaddy on Jan 13, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
This I know, but Twitter just allows it to come through in incoherent, 20-word sentence form. At least when you blog, you have to put a little more effort into getting to the computer, sitting down and typing up a post or responding. You can “tweet” while having sex. I can’t imagine that’s what the computer nerds thought when they came up with the program.
Ugh.
You can "tweet" while having sex.
Anyone who does this does not deserve to be intimate and/or reproduce.
I don’t use Twitter myself. The only Twitter account I’ve paid any attention to is @1000TimesYes since I’m a music geek. Critic Christopher R. Weingarten used said account to review 1000 albums over the course of 2009, all within the confines of Twitter’s 140-character limit. It was a good idea, if not entirely original.
That aside, Twitter may be cast into the darkness, where it mail wail and gnash its teeth.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
OMG LIKE I AM POUNDING MY GIRL ATM
2:16pm Jan 13th from Mobile
Some think too much, then come too soon
I just curse the sun, so I can howl at the moon
LOL, I’ve seen some tweets like that. And mikefive is right; they should not be allowed to reproduce.
If you even think about doing anything else during sex, you’re doing something wrong
by SkookFlyerfan on Jan 13, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
Funny. The hook in the Inquirer story tonight about the game:
Remember when the Flyers, their offense stagnant, were so bad that only one of the NHL’s 30 teams had fewer points?
That seems like ancient history, even if it was only a month ago.
See mine above. Funny.
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Good to hear about Hartnell, not that he was sick but just not injured. Is this a bad day to still be looking for some trades to balance the line up? I imagine so.
I am looking past the Laffs tomorrow night to get at the Caps. I hope the team isn’t, but it is obvious now that we aren’t the dreck of the NHL and playing these teams is boring. I have to say it is not just the winning and scoring that is impressing me but the little things that I see with the team. I have been complaining for a couple of years now that this team could not even execute an efficient breakout with proper puck support. I have to believe it is Laviolette and that part of the game is working a ton better and it shows coming out of their zone and moving through the neutral zone which is lending itself perfectly to the down hill scoring attack plan the coach is trying play. Winning makes everything better even my wife isn’t bugging me as much as usual. Let’s Go Flyers!
Just to let you know, we scored first, scored 3 or more times, and had more than 25 shots against. Lost the Faceoff battle though.
Just kidding, First goal is probably the biggest impact though.
I was just over to see your update and was about to say the same thing. Keep up the good work b.
by M from Pdaddy on Jan 13, 2010 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
where the f*(& did these guys come from?
and where is mariod?
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by HockeyOutsiders on Jan 13, 2010 9:09 AM EST reply actions
Right after he said the game has passed JVR completely.
by M from Pdaddy on Jan 13, 2010 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
In fairness...
… he essentially said that JVR was “not ready for prime time.” Even in light of JVR’s recent success, he’ll say that it was against bad teams.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
MarioD:
This team is still flawed can’t beat any good teams look at their last 5 opponents their combined records in the last ten games 15-23-2. We still don’t have a center who can win a faceoff. JVR took a 1:23 shift and was a minus -1 in a 6-3 he needs to go back to the AHL to learn how to make a line change. Horrible play by Richards led to the Neal breakaway what the hell was he thinking. The team didn’t show up in the 3rd period again and Marty Turco is not a NHL caliber goaltender. The true test of this team will come against whoever they lose to next. Lavvy’s system is horrible we give up way too many odd man rushes and Leighton won’t be able to keep of this level to keep bailing out our over aggressive forecheck. Homgren should step down now while to team is winning to save face. That about sums it up.
The true test will come with their next loss…. LOL, wow.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 13, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
And in fairness I agreed with MarioD on these points as well. I am going to shower now. But really I still want better faceoff production and wouldn’t be adverse to trading Carter to get a star winger and possibly a higher regarded Goaltender than what we have now as opposed to having Carter at center. And most of all I want a GM I can trust with important decisions and Holmgren is not that guy. I can’t back off that now because I have been saying it for too long. Winning is still covering some areas of concern personnel wise and they can’t just blow it off now that have decided to show up and play teams they should beat with one arm tied behind their backs.
by M from Pdaddy on Jan 13, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
Was I the only one disturbed by that?
"In fact, it is probably safe to say, the statement "I am a hockey fan" is the same as "I hate gary bettman."- bfrank27
I think I just mistaken agreed with chrislanci doing a MarioD Schtick, didn’t I??? But I still agree with what I said.
by M from Pdaddy on Jan 13, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
chris does the perfect channeling of mariod, nice work sir.
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by HockeyOutsiders on Jan 13, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
He really does, I was rolling on the true test is their next loss comment.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 13, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
Mikefive you are like a battered wife, in fairness. LOL this is only joking around people.
by M from Pdaddy on Jan 13, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
The league has passed JVR by this season. He’s not experienced enough to compete at the level of hockey the league will play the rest of the season. He’ll have okay games against shitty teams (like last night) but in a good hockey game he’s worthless.
See: Wheeler, Blake 2008-09.
by MarioD on Jan 7, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This said, I actually completely agreed with him and am fully willing to eat any crow in the name of Flyers winning.
by M from Pdaddy on Jan 13, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
hey i'm new
is it true we might switch over to the Winter Classic jerseys as our regular away jersey?
well, anyway now that football season is over, here i am
by birds'n'raiders on Jan 13, 2010 3:44 PM EST reply actions
Actually I think I heard the broadcast crew saying they were going to those jersey full time next year.
by M from Pdaddy on Jan 13, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Who else just recently did that to the Flyers? I can’t think of the team.
by M from Pdaddy on Jan 13, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
The Panthers, but I (sort of) understood it, because they were retaliating for the Booth hit. But what are the Leafs retaliating for? Sucking?
Remember that the Panthers never even really retaliated during the game. Whenever a tough guy gets a call up, it rarely ever materializes into anything entertaining.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 13, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
I know, but it still doesn’t answer the question about what the Leafs are trying to do here. They fought plenty in the last game and it didn’t help them on defense. What good does calling up another fighter do? It seems like such a Flyers early-aughts thing to do.
And I love how Toronto thinks our team is full of goons. Too friggin’ hilarious.
Hey, let them think what they want. They can enjoy irrelevance as Carolina beats them a few more times and Phil Kessel turtles like a baby in the face of the Toronto spotlight.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 13, 2010 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
everybody thinks our team is full of goons!
right down to Briere and Giroux i guess.
i’d say Carcillo, Pronger , and…..well that’s it. Lapperriere, Asham, Hartnell, POWE (right in the kisser) are Grinders. not suprised people generally don’t the difference between the two. but hey these comments come mostly from penguins “fans”. they wouldn’t know one if he played LW on the penguins and went by Matt Cooke or Goddard or Kunitz. is it coincidence that as soon as they put on that PIT jersey they lose goon status?
and didn’t Toronto kinda goon it up in the offseason? where does all the hate Toronto have for us now come from? what Carcillo said and did?
you callin me a know-nothin? sir, i'll have you know i happen to know very little.
I’d even consider Pronger debatable – he’s a very physical player, but he only averages 1.4 fights per year for his career, and averages 0.598 points per game for his career. That’s not OMGAwesome, but it’s the same scoring pace that Hartnell’s averaging this season. For comparison, Timonen averages 0.532 points per game for his career. I usually consider a goon to be on the ice solely (or nearly solely) for his physicality, but Pronger brings offense to the ice as well.
"When you make your final stand
I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"
yes, i agree, Pronger is debatable. he’s got the qualities, he’s got the size and physical style. i guess borderline goon?
i’ve dismissed Hartnell as a goon. instead i label him a plain dumbass. he has a lot of talent in my opinion, last year he had 60 pts. 30G and 30A. and 40 some pts the year before. those aren’t goon numbers. maybe we can create new category for Hartnell. Offensive Goon!
you callin me a know-nothin? sir, i'll have you know i happen to know very little.
by hockey punk on Jan 14, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
Mentally, I have Hartnell pegged as an agitator – someone who’s moderately talented, but is good at causing the other team to leave their plan by irritating the bejeebers out of them, and taking advantage of them getting flustered. It’s the same role Avery fills, except Hartnell’s stupid ideas aren’t as stupid.
"When you make your final stand
I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"
It seems that the very sight of Hartnell drives other teams and players batty. In the last Pens game Letang got caught out of position 2 or 3 times looking to get him for the alleged finger bite. Tim Thomas was also really off his game trying to get at Hartnell. He is sideshow Bob and it just incites a response. I have man-love for Hartnell, that dude just adds character to the team and I don’t mean heart and guts character, but more a sense of levity.
by M from Pdaddy on Jan 14, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
both of you are dead on
the only problem i have with his game is the dumd penalties. other than that i love the guy, i admit i have a tiny man crush also. but there isn’t too many Flyers i didn’t absolutely love. hell i was disappointed when Comrie was traded
you callin me a know-nothin? sir, i'll have you know i happen to know very little.
You’ve got it all wrong – it’s not that he adds character, it’s that he is a character ;)
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I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"
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