Danny Syvret with a Grade 3 shoulder separation. Out a month.
With Syvret done for a month, the Flyers will reactivate OKT even though he has yet to fully heal from his knee injury.
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Not that I like Ott at all, he is a goon, but I really don’t think his hit was a penalty. I think he just caught Svret at a very awkward angle and it ended badly.
Paul Holmgren agrees with you:
“I think Danny put himself in an awkward position. He was trying to protect himself from Steve Ott, who is a good bodychecker in his own right. I didn’t even think it was a penalty, to be honest.”
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 14, 2010 8:55 AM EST up reply actions
I’m gonna say three and take the under.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 13, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
See this story today from the DN: Flyer’s Syvrey can count on friendly face in the home crowd?
It was a nice story, but what timing. On autism awareness night, his biggest fan gets to see him injured in the very beginning of the game. F’ you harder, Ott!
Marshall’s not even close to being ready yet. My guess is that if they decide to bring someone up to be the #7 it’ll be Bourdon, who they brought up at the very beginning of the season to be the #7. Bourdon is also not even close to being ready yet, so hopefully he doesn’t have to see any action.
Those two will be in the NHL full-time soon enough though.
Out of interest, what do you mean by not being close to being ready?
Is it skill, strength, conditioning or knowing the system, or a combination?
I’ve always wondered the difference. How are guys like Hedman, Doughty etc ready when they are only 18-20?
The difference in skill level between junior and the AHL is pretty large. The difference between the AHL and the NHL is that squared. Even watching a Hershey Bears (top team in the AHL) game and a Hurricanes game, the difference is immense. While Kevin Marshall and Marc-Andre Bourdon have NHL-level raw talent — the Flyers have been perfectly clear they believe that to be the case — they lack the strength, the conditioning, and the mental skill to keep up with an game. They’re still developing as players. They’re working on their skating mostly, but they’re also working on their passing, their shooting, their positioning, etc. Their intuition (“what’s the smartest play to try and negate this 2-on-1?”) is not yet fast enough nor is it correct enough to be effective NHL players, especially at a position as critical as defense. They’re also not strong enough yet to play a physical sport against some of the grittiest guys in the world who know how to stay on their feet and knock you off yours — it’s imperative to be able to prevent yourself from being bumped off the puck. Luckily, if you have the raw talent, hard-work and experience can make all those issues go away. Sometimes, it takes a year or two or three in the AHL to not just make the transition to the AHL, but then start to excel in AHL play. Once you start to do that, it’s only a matter of time before the parent club calls you up (see: Bartulis, Oskars).
As for Hedman, Doughty, Johnson, etc., for whatever reason, those guys have such strength, such mental skills and such talent that they can make the leap immediately. Imagine playing college hockey, and trying to skate around Chris Pronger, who’s somehow joined your opposition. It’s kind of like that; thus why they’re drafted so high.
You can stick an Andreas Nodl or Jared Ross in the lineup at any given time, and as long as they know how to hold their own in their zone and don’t give the puck away, they’ll be fine. You stick a Danny Syvret in there, and you see what happened (the first time around).
Now, generally, the system shouldn’t a problem. I know Hitch made sure the Flyers and Phantoms ran the same systems. I don’t know if Stevens did that, but even if he did, I doubt Laviolette’s had the opportunity to explain his system in-depth enough to Gilbert and Kjell so that they could re-teach it to the Phantoms.
Ben can we get a report from the boards Phantoms guy about potentiial call ups Marshall, Burdoun etc. I think we should try to add another 2nd pairing D-Man to replace Syvert and allow Coburn to move down to the 5th spot. It might cost us one of those kids or Coburn or Parent and cap room can be saved by calling up one if those kids as the 6th 7th guy. Neither Bourdon or Marshall’s stat line is blowing me away but for a D-Man stats aren’t very meaningful.
by chrislanci on Jan 13, 2010 8:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not sure a call up will even be necessary, let alone possible. They currently have 23 healthy players on the roster (the max) with Parent and Syvret on LTIR. So, until OKT gets hurt, they have no room to add somebody without losing somebody first.
Since Parent should be returning within a week (based on this), I’m not sure you risk losing Boucher to add a defenseman who will just sit in the press box. Assuming OKT can make it through 3 games without getting hurt, that is.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 14, 2010 8:59 AM EST reply actions
There are provisions for this, you can ask the league for extra roster space (I want to say “in case of emergency” but I don’t think that’s the actual language).
Basically, the Flyers have three injured Dmen, so the league office would allow them to add another dman and go over the roster limit.
Even if they have a healthy player on the roster that they aren’t using?
I feel like what you’re saying is correct, if the team has no healthy players. I have a hard time believing the CBA would allow a team to keep a healthy Riley Cote on the roster while asking for an exemption to the 23 player limit. Now, say Hartnell is still sick and Powe is still nicked up, and suddenly Bartulis sprains his ankle. Now you have twelve healthy forwards, five healthy defenseman, and three healthy goalies. Add in the three injured players (who can’t go on LTIR), having an emergency spot might make sense. But if you have a healthy skater – forward or defense – I would think the NHL says “tough crap”.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 15, 2010 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
The CBA just lists it very vaguely and leaves it entirely up to the NHL’s discretion as I recall.
But my impression is it wouldn’t be a problem. What they’re saying is “we’ve got three injured dmen on the roster, we need permission to add an extra healthy dman”.
I don’t think the NHL has any interest in forcing a team to waive a player (as would be the case with Cote).
























