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Fights. Fights. Fights. It took a 4-0 lead Toronto some goonery by two worthless hockey players late in the game, but we finally got the truculence we were hyped into believing would happen tonight. The game was over, but Jay Rosehill and Colton Orr got their pay back for Dan Carcillo's throat slash last week by jumping Ole-Kristian Tollefsen from behind and giving a cheap elbow to Mike Richards.

Oh, but the Flyers are goons. I'm sorry. Enjoy missing the playoffs for the next five years, d-bags.

On to hockey now. Despite the paper trail of evidence that said this game would be another Philadelphia win, the Toronto Maple Leafs walked all over the Flyers tonight at Air Canada Centre, winning 4-0. 

It didn't feel good from the start when Rosehill, the guy who was supposedly called up to beat the hell out of Dan Carcillo had apparently scored a goal on his first shift. After review, though, it was determined that Rosehill punched the puck into the goal. How typical.

Still, the Leafs continued to dictate the play in front of spectacular goaltending from Vesa Toskala. He made key saves at key times and continued his dominance of the Flyers. He's now 5-1-1 against Philly in his career. 

It appears that I may big a gigantic jinx. I talked pre-game about how bad Toskala was and the Flyers should put pucks behind him at will. That clearly didn't happen. I also talked pre-game about the Leafs 'top' line, consisting of Phil Kessel, Tyler Bozak, and Nikolai Kulemin.

Well, Bozak absolutely undressed an over-matched Tollefsen and dipsy do'ed his way in to beat Michael Leighton for his first NHL goal. Then the trio broke into the Flyers zone and Kessel fed Kulemin for a beautiful goal on an odd-man rush.

The entire team just looked out of sync tonight. Let's hope that's only because Darroll Powe left half way through the game with a shoulder injury and Scott Hartnell missed the game with the flu. The offense was shaken up a bit and it may have caused some problems. At least that's what we can hope for.

The Flyers didn't play terribly but they just couldn't get any pucks by Toskala. It happens. We can still hope for a few losses tonight by the Habs and Bruins.  The Rangers have already lost in regulation, but that means the Senators jump a point ahead of us. Might we get Ray Emery on Sunday against Washington? We'll see, but Leighton was left out to dry tonight on several odd-man rushes.

After the jump, questions with answers and the comment of the night.

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Questions With Answers

  1. Do the Leafs attempt to get the Flyers off their game, and if so, are they successful in doing so? They didn't goon it up until late when it didn't really matter. They looked like a hockey team tonight, but uh, we all know they aren't.
  2. Does Vesa Toskala suck as much as Leafs fans say? Yes, but not tonight. Once a guy gets a little confidence it's amazing what he can do with it, and Toskala certainly had that tonight.
  3. How much ice time does Jay Rosehill see, and if Cote gets in how much ice time does he see? 9:01. Cote didn't play, and good on Laviolette for not taking the bait and the pressure to play him.
  4. Five minutes of ice time before Tollefsen re-injures himself. Over or under? Played the whole game. Shocking, right?

Comment of the Night

Wow. And WE’RE the goons?

TRUCULENCE!

>> Geoff Detweiler

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Notice how they waited until they were comfortably ahead to fight. For a bunch of goons, I still question their manhood.

by doubleh on Jan 14, 2010 9:55 PM EST reply actions  

I hope Powe is ok

Tolefson did not play that bad he looked good for not seeing ice time in over a month. But the Powe injury is huge lets hope the shoulder is not seperated. He really makes the team buzz i swear.

by whosyourjockey on Jan 15, 2010 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Beautiful goal.

Misdirected comment. No one is complaining about that play.

The Douchebag of the Night Award goes to Ron Wilson for sending out his Thug Line after it was 4-0. Mayers, Rosehill, and Orr all had to get a piece of Richards in hopes that a piece of his hockey skill would fall off and they could eat it. Mayers is the only one of that bunch who has any talent.

After that play, and after all of the holding and interference the Leafs get away with night in and night out, I don’t want to hear any more about how dirty the Flyers are, m’mkay?

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Jan 14, 2010 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t doubt they weren’t trying though

by ToddtheFox on Jan 14, 2010 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, even the Leafs have standards.

by doubleh on Jan 14, 2010 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

No, they sucker-punched him and elbowed him in the face instead.

Get over the Booth hit already. It wasn’t even against your team.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Jan 14, 2010 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, I thought he was making a Malkin reference. That was an elbow, though; good catch.

by doubleh on Jan 14, 2010 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

They sucker punched him?

Must have missed that. Good eye…

I have nothing interesting to say.

by blurr1974 on Jan 15, 2010 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, um, it’s easy to just throw clips around and everything, but not many of us defended that one around here.

Bradley cleanly hit Carcillo along the boards, but for whatever reason, Danny couldn’t rein in his emotions. Shocker, right? It’s good when you play with an edge, but more often then not, the guy can’t seem to keep himself under control. We were evidenced to yet another one of those incidents last night. After the jump, take a look at the video, the boxscore as the ref’s threw the book at Carcillo, and, of course, the ensuing nightmare of a hockey game.

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Hate to say it, but they’re all there. The cross check is maybe a little weak, but he did cross check Bradley when he was down on the ice. The instigator, the fighting major, and the misconducts are also totally deserved. There’s no debating that. Period. As Laviolette said after the game, “We got hit and should’ve skated away.”

But Carcillo didn’t. And nine minutes of power play time for the Capitals were the result.

It’s really easy to just throw video clips around with some holier than thou attitude. Try checking the track record next time.

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by Travis Hughes on Jan 15, 2010 12:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Carcillo threw a sucker punch. I’m not saying it’s defendabel, or that anyone here condones it. I’m showing you what it looks like when someone gets sucker punched. Show me the clip of the Leafs when they “sucker punched” Richards and “elbowed him in the face” and I’ll gladly concede the point.

Sometimes teams lose because they didn’t play as well as they should/could have. The Leafs had ZERO business winning a game against the Flyers, especially with Toskala in net. Toronto didn’t win through gooning or cheap shots or anything else. They won because the Flyers played a crappy game.

Tough pill to swallow, but it happens.

I have nothing interesting to say.

by blurr1974 on Jan 15, 2010 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

No one’s saying the Flyers didn’t deserve to lose. They played like crap, although Toskala has good numbers against us, historically speaking, so this preconceived notion that the Flyers should have dominated is a little misplaced (at least from my POV).

However, the Leafs most definitely gooned it up at the end of the game once they were comfortably ahead. We’re just tired of the “Flyers are all goons” BS when there are plenty of other teams just as capable of sending messages as the O & B. They didn’t call up that guy so he could score the first goal of the game, which ended up being disallowed.

I’m so tired of other teams’ fans thinking their players are all angels and that they only instigators wear orange in the league. The Leafs took runs at Richie last night and in the previous meeting. Whether or not Carcillo helped add to that or was defending it (and going over the top while he did it) is beside the point.

by doubleh on Jan 15, 2010 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Richards is a hard hitter, and the Flyers captain. Of course the Leafs ran him. That’s the best way to contain him. Take the hits to him and grind him down.

My only point was, there were no cheap shots or elbows thrown on Richards. Big hits? Yes. Hits in abundance, perhaps even over abundance? Absolutely.

I’m not here saying the Leafs are angels, because quite honestly, if they were I’d want them to be less so. The Flyers are a far better team than the Leafs this season. I’m a huge Mike Richards fan, and an even bigger Jeff Carter fan (check my comments on Pension Plan Puppets for “Jeff Freaking Carter”…) but I never saw a cheap shot taken on Richards. I saw the Leafs do to him what he does to his opponents, and Richards didn’t respond.

Call that gooning, call that cheap. If that’s what you think it is, then that’s what the Flyers captain is. A cheap shot artist and a goon. Personally, I don’t agree.

I have nothing interesting to say.

by blurr1974 on Jan 15, 2010 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Contain him? Seriously? The game was over.

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by Travis Hughes on Jan 15, 2010 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Please.

there were no cheap shots or elbows thrown on Richards.

Then what does Orr do after the initial collision?

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Jan 15, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Now that this is out of their system, they won’t have any fun until they beat Montreal again.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Jan 14, 2010 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

This should be rec’d a billion times

by ToddtheFox on Jan 14, 2010 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

In Barfly-era Mickey Rourke voice:

“More recs for my friends!”

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Jan 14, 2010 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, and they’ll justify their goonery Colin Campbell style by saying, “Well, the Flyers asked for it when Carcillo taunted them.” Never mind the fact that Carcillo was taunting them because they were taking runs at Richards all night. Whatever, it’s cyclical. Fans take this shit too personally. Carcillo even said on DNL tonight he shouldn’t have done that, but he did say he wished he’d celebrated his goal more (probably because they don’t happen that often).

by doubleh on Jan 14, 2010 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

My gosh.
I just read their thread. They think they win because there are more of them spitting thoughtless drivel. Even worse, they quote me!

I know that the Flyers probably have fans that are as simple as them, but don’t know how to use the internet. Unluckily for us, the Leafs fans do.

As for the game, I didn’t think we were going to win the next 40 odd games. If we have to lose, I would rather it be against teams that don’t have a chance in the playoffs, so long as we beat the good teams when it counts. Big turn-around before the Caps, I’m sure we can do it.

by ToddtheFox on Jan 15, 2010 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s funny, they make a lot of “Flyers fans can read?!?!?!” jokes over there and they have a whole running gag that whenever someone says something stupid they follow it up by saying ‘Go Flyers!’

Funny, but ironic.

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by Travis Hughes on Jan 15, 2010 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Hilarious. Yes, some of us are quite highly educated, thank you. Of course, we could respond by saying “I didn’t know they had the internet in those parts of the hinterland,” but whatever.

by doubleh on Jan 15, 2010 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

And yeah, back to the game… it was a set up all along for a let down. You come in after a decent little home stand, go up to face off against a terrible team with the league’s best offense looming on Sunday. It’s hard not to look ahead to the Caps, really.

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by Travis Hughes on Jan 15, 2010 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s exactly what I feared before this game. They couldn’t get themselves up to play a crappy team that sent the message that this game was waaaaaaay more important to them than it was to the Flyers—and there was probably an element of fear of retaliation in this game. Well, that and Hartnell and Powe being out of the game. Everything was off from the start.

by doubleh on Jan 15, 2010 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

You are a very bitter man, aren’t you?

Go EAGLES and BRUINS!

by Brad Ackerson on Jan 15, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

everytime OKT got hit i expected him to stay down. dude is more fragile than my grandmother

by jhamer85 on Jan 14, 2010 11:06 PM EST reply actions  

general rule of thumb: is OKT hurt? no? then wait 5 minutes

by lerris on Jan 14, 2010 11:15 PM EST up reply actions  

You forgot...

Repeat over the course of 25-30 games.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Jan 14, 2010 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Carcillo’s goal was better the Bozak’s…just saying.

by Parduno on Jan 15, 2010 12:15 AM EST reply actions  

Agreed and much more surprising, too, so there is that factor to compound it.

by doubleh on Jan 15, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Should make a gif of that goal, the celebration and then the $2,500 gesture

by ToddtheFox on Jan 15, 2010 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Leaf fans

Ill go into work today (in Toronto) and folks will say “we got one, finally.”Especially after having just lost to the Canes. Real leaf fans aren’t going to have a parade down Yonge street. The die hard leaf fans who know Im a flyers fan aren’t going to ‘throw it in my face’ as some have been on various threads. Thats cause the Leafs have been in a ‘rebuilding’ phase for decades. They feel like the Flyers fans felt in November and December, like crap. The Flyers final turn it around. The Leafs won one game. I can’t believe some crazed people are claiming that the Leafs are a better team and that they are tougher than the Flyers. Grandiose delusions for sure. You won a game, you played well, good job, now have fun playing the Caps tonight!

by Gonzotatcics on Jan 15, 2010 7:26 AM EST reply actions  

Flyers fans complaining about goonery, how cute.

by Brad Ackerson on Jan 15, 2010 11:59 AM EST reply actions  

Our problem isn't the goonery

We know we have a history goonery, including parts of this current team (on occasion). All we want is for other teams and their fans to sack up and admit to their own goonery and not just describe it as a playful part of the game when their team does it.

It’s that whole cake-and-eat-it-too saying people throw around.

"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."

by IcersGuy on Jan 15, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Admission

It’s right there in our recap.

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by PPP on Jan 15, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

That wasn't a statement directed at you or PPP

It was a more general blanket statement because of the number of fans from different teams that make these sort of claims.

"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."

by IcersGuy on Jan 15, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I have no problem with goonery, no matter who is doing it. Intimidation is a very useful tactic, and there is nothing more intimidating than knowing that your opponent may cross the line and take some cheapshots. The Flyers of the 70’s were the ones that perfected this tactic so it bugs me to see Flyers fans complaining when another team uses it.

Orr and Rosehill definitely acted like goons last night and I couldn’t be happier about it. One of my favourite moments last night was in the second period when Jay Rosehill took a run at Mike Richards as Richards was crossing the Leafs blue line. There was a whistle (they were offside I think) and Rosehill more or less threw Richards to the ice and Colton Orr skated over like he expected the Flyers to do something. However, the Flyers just skated away as the Leafs goons stood over their captain.

This is two games in a row that Colton Orr took runs at Richards and not one Flyers haven’t done anything about it. If I was a Flyers fan I would be extremely pissed at the team for not sticking up for themselves, instead of being pissed at Orr and Rosehill for doing their jobs.

by Brad Ackerson on Jan 15, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Because it’s not the style of hockey that Laviolette favors and it certainly hasn’t won us anything in the past. I wasn’t really around to see those old Flyers play their style, but it’s not how the new NHL operates anyway. The way the Flyers of the 70’s played doesn’t really work in today’s game. And if you can’t complain about something just because your team may have done something similar in the past, then there would significantly reduced internet sports traffic.

I have nothing against intimidation used as a tactic, but at the end of the game when you’re already up by 4 goals; well, that’s not really intimidation then, is it? It’s more like goonery for the sake of itself.

by doubleh on Jan 15, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I saw what happened at the end of last nights game as them trying to send a message for the future.

I am not saying the Flyers have to use intimidation as a tactic, but Laviolette should have known that the Leafs were going to try, and he should have dressed Riley Cote as deterrent.

by Brad Ackerson on Jan 15, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

But

RILEY COTE isn’t a deterrent to ANYONE! Is what I am trying to tell you. He 1) doesn’t scare anybody 2) can’t play hockey.

I know he has a lot of fans on this board, but I, for one, can’t understand why he’s even on the team.

by doubleh on Jan 15, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

He doesn’t have to scare anybody. Orr would probably beat him, just like he usually does. But he would be giving Orr something else to think about.

If Orr isn’t fighting then he isn’t doing his job. The Leafs clearly wanted him to fight last night but he couldn’t find any opponents so he did the next best thing by taking a run at Richards.

IMO If Cote was in, they would have fought at the start of the game and that would have been it. Orr would have felt like he did his job and you wouldn’t hear from him for the rest of the game.

by Brad Ackerson on Jan 15, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

But Lavvy didn’t want the team thinking about all that crap. It was bad enough that that’s all the Toronto press focused on.

Toronto won the game last night because they finally came out with some fire, played pressure D and attacked/moved their feet. If they could do that every night, you guys would have something good to watch. It had very little to do with the fighting other than the Leafs got some confidence and felt good about themselves because Philly was “scared of them”.

by doubleh on Jan 15, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Not true.

This is two games in a row that Colton Orr took runs at Richards and not one Flyers haven’t done anything about it.

Orr took a run at Richards at end of the 2nd period of last week’s game and the Flyers rushed to his defense. Then Richards scored on the ensuing power play.

Mayers and Rosehill clobbered Richards after it was 4-0 and the players on the ice rushed to his defense. Then Orr elbowed Richards in the face while everyone was tied up.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Jan 15, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

If a 4th line player goes after your captain then you need to do more than yell and push. Somebody needs to fight the guy, it doesn’t matter if you lose the fight because you will be sending the message that you aren’t going to goons take shots at your captain.

by Brad Ackerson on Jan 15, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Go home.

You know what? The fans of our most bitter rivals, the Penguins, do not come over here and do this stuff when they win. So, right back atcha. If you can generalize and say that the Flyers are all goons, I can generalize and say that the Leafs are a bunch of lazy skaters who get away with holding and interference every night. Whenever I watch them play (which is more than you’d think thanks to NHL GameCenter), they clutch and grab and interfere.

Granted, the Leafs won because they did NOT play that way for a change. We didn’t lose because the Leafs were being cheap; we lost because the Leafs were the better team. Maybe if they move their feet more often and play like they did last night, they won’t put other teams on the power play with lazy penalties and fall behind 2-0 every damned night.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Jan 15, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Well

The Pens do have a cup in their recent history, so they have that to hang their hats on. The Leafs haven’t won anything since the Flyers first came into the league. It must be like being a fan of the Sixers up there; once proud franchise run into the groud/irrelevancy.

by doubleh on Jan 15, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I never generalized the Flyers as being all goons. Actually I think they made a mistake by not dressing their heavyweight enforcer last night.

by Brad Ackerson on Jan 15, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

The point is to score more goals than the other team. Our heavyweight enforcer is neither good at fighting, nor playing hockey. It’s really that simple.

by doubleh on Jan 15, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

You would’t have scored any less goals if Riley Cote was playing. The only difference would have been that Colton Orr would have just fought Cote, instead of going after Richards.

by Brad Ackerson on Jan 15, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Orr would have gone after Richards anyway. He was purposefully taking a run at one of our best players, because that’s how you intimidate. Cote would have only fought Orr, and lost, because that would have been coming to his captains’ aid. So, if Lavvy dresses him, Toronto and the rest of the hockey world knows that Philly is expecting/looking for a fight.

The Flyers weren’t looking for that. They were looking for 2 pts. They wanted to play their game, not Toronto’s. In the end, they didn’t play their game and allowed their lack of depth to throw them off. They didn’t play D at all and as a result, lost the game.

And there was no way to know the Flyers would score no goals beforehand considering their recent offensive success.

by doubleh on Jan 15, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

What heavyweight enforcer? Cote can’t fight his way out of a paper bag. In his last 50 fights, he’s won 13 based on the voting at HockeyFights. I like the guy’s heart, but he’s not even a decent enforcer.

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by The Dark on Jan 15, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

No dog in this fight?

Well my other comment got deleted for “trolling”

I remember back in October when Captain leadership took a run at Marc-Andre Fleury late in the thrid period right before Scott Hartnell allegedly but Kris Letang’s finger in a game the Flyer’s had no hope of coming back in.

The idea that now the Flyers are complaining about late game goonery is ironic.

SLBD

by SLBD on Jan 15, 2010 12:55 PM EST reply actions  

And I'm sure you complained about it

So why can’t Flyers fans? It happens in hockey; these sites are for fans to vent. Penguins fans don’t own the right to complaining about how other players’ play, nor do Leafs fans or anyone else.

All teams do it; that’s our point (at least it’s mine). It wasn’t a “we never do this kind of thing, holier than thou” complaint. It was a “we’re tired of hearing that we have the only goons in the league when they exist on plenty of other teams.” What’s so hard to understand about that?

The Flyers do have skill players, too, as hard as that might be for some opposing fans to understand.

by doubleh on Jan 15, 2010 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

When was the last time the Flyers called up one of their AHL tough guys for a game? The Leafs and Panthers have both done it recently, for games against the Flyers. Lavvi did not even dress Cote, knowing that the Leafs brought up a tough guy, and yet the Flyers are seen as goons. It makes no sense.

And furthermore, I have counted 3 times, twice in the last week where a team has scored a goal with too many men on the ice. Once, ok, twice, that’s wrong, three times? Unacceptable.

by EREX21 on Jan 15, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d just like to add that

in a game the Flyer’s had no hope of coming back in.

is just dead wrong. It was a ONE goal game. Richards “took a run” at MAF after firing a shot on net, which could have tied the game.

I’ll ignore the rest of your post because Travis took care of that, but there is never “no hope of coming back” when only one goal separates the two teams.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 15, 2010 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

The difference is that Flyer’s fans are tired of their team being labeled as the NHL’s Goon squad when they are far from it. Sure, they had a history of goonery. The Broad Street Bullies is obviously one of the biggest goon squads to play the game. But that was a different game in a different time. This Flyers team is not a goon squad at all. Sure they have some guys who do stupid things from time to time…Carcillo, Hartnell, even Briere. But they aren’t goons. They aren’t Colton Orr, Chris Neil, Steve Downie etc. Some people say Pronger is a goon, and maybe he was. But let me tell you something, I have seen every game this season and so far Pronger has been more a p*ssy then a goon.

Case in point, last night Richards was getting roughed up behind the net, play was dead and Pronger just stood there and watched. Didn’t stick up for his captain, he did nothing.

Being a goon isn’t just about getting in fights for the sake of getting in fights. Being a goon is being a cheap shot artist, about hitting guys when no one is looking, it’s about taking a run at a guy when the play is dead, or when the game is already won, or lost. Such as what Colton Orr and Toronto’s new hero Jay Rosehill did at the end of the game last night. I wish I could find video of it but at the end of the game there was a scrum and Orr comes out of nowhere and just lays an elbow to the side of Richards face. I wish Richards would have stood up for himself better yet, I wish someone on the team would have stood up for their Captain. Orr would have destroyed Richards in a fight.

But you see thats the difference between the Flyers fans and other teams fans. We don’t want our players to be goons. We spent time and energy trying to defend them when other fans call them such and yet there are plenty of teams in the NHL who have goon players or pretty much pride themselves on being goons. Brian Burke is all about it. And that’s his right, but for the Leafs fans, or at least the ones who have come on here and act like what their players did last night was simply taking runs at guys is ridiculous and total homer bias. The Leafs have been goons for years. Which is probably why they can’t seem to win. They have more goons than actual hockey players.

by EREX21 on Jan 15, 2010 1:41 PM EST reply actions  

For the record, this to me is one of the best things I have ever seen.

Pretty sure Ovie would have killed Downie but the simple fact that Bradley came in there to defend his Captain, his team’s best player…it’s something I wish the Flyers would actually do for once.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3Sq1Kwz-zc

Last night wasn’t the first time guys have gone after Richards and no one has done a thing about it. I would better money that if Hartnell had played last night, he would have gone after Orr or Rosehill. But everyone else, they all stood around and watched.

by EREX21 on Jan 15, 2010 1:43 PM EST reply actions  

Tell it like it is.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Jan 15, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, bad day. Had to get it out of my system. It’s not 5 yet, so haven’t had my daily wine quotient.

It’s now part of my diet, can you believe that? A diet that recommends 2 glasses of red wine a day. It’s HEAVEN.

by doubleh on Jan 15, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Red wine has reservatrol and is a good source of antioxidants, so there you go.

Wine quotient can be calculated by the following equation, where “hic” = Amount of Wine Needed to Feel Just Right.

WQ = 2(hic) + 1 / .5(hic)

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Jan 15, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

So what’s the wine quotient equation for enjoying Flyers’ games? For last night, it’s probably double that equation.

by doubleh on Jan 15, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve always looked at these things in a certain light. The Maple Leafs, despite their their historical roots in hockey and their importance to Canada and the NHL, have become a non-factor in the NHL. They are a team that is only around because of the support of their fan base. Their fan base isn’t around because of their winnings ways, or the all-star players that they don’t have, or their recent Stanley Cups, or their success. Their hockey team is around because of the loyalty of the fans, nothing more. If their fans want to go onto other hockey boards and spread their slop, that is completely fine with me. Hockey is a long season filled with numerous battles. They won a battle, but they haven’t even come close to the winning the war since the 92-93 season, where they went seven games in the Conference Final and lost to the LA Kings. Meanwhile, in that time span, the Flyers have gone seven games in the Conference Final 2 times and even went to a Stanley Cup Finals.
     The moral of the story is: let them eat their cake in their recent victory, but know that they haven’t been relevant to the NHL in 16 years. They exist because of their fans. But as an organization, their team is inadequate and and has been for some time.
     As for the cheap shots? They will get theirs. What separates the goons from the aggressive teams is that the aggressive teams will take their licks in stride, and show the team that the scoreboard is where the game matters. The Leafs don’t seem to understand that concept, as demonstrated by their whopping 41 points in 47 games. In fact, winning is a concept they haven’t understood in the last 4 years, where they’ve had one season at .500, and three others below.

I’m not worried about the leafs or their fans; neither should you

TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 15, 2010 4:23 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

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