Thursday Fly By & Discussion Thread: Haiti Donations! Brindy Loses 'C', Syvret's Jersey Auction

by Travis Hughes on Jan 21, 2010 5:00 AM EST in Morning Fly By

Geoff brought the Morning Fly By back yesterday, and we're going to make a concerted effort to really make it a daily feature again. Even if we have to bring someone new into the fold just to make it happen, we'll consider doing that.

One new part in bringing back a daily list of links is pushing the fact that this post can be used as a daily discussion thread, where you're free to ramble on and go off on tangents throughout your day. If you have a random thought and need somewhere to let it out, here's your spot. Talk about the links too, of course. Just keep it clean and civil as always.

With that said, let's get to the good stuff.

Last night's NHL scores... NJD 2, FLA 0 - STL 4, MTL 3 (OT) - VAN 3, EDM 2 (OT)
We're still raising money toward relief efforts in Haiti. Since Tuesday night we've raised almost 200 dollars, and with the end of the week/pay day coming, we're going to keep reminding you that donations are still open. You'll even get yourself on a nice list of people who donated (by user name, not actual name -- let us know if you don't want inclusion for any reason, though). [BSH Haiti Donations]
The Flyers have perennially been towards the top of the league in man-games lost to injury. They're smack dab in the middle right now, 15th in the league with 127 man-games lost. [Mirtle]
Cam Janssen might be of the opinion that goalies should be fair game when outside of their crease. Carey Price, probably not. [SBN Hockey]
First, the Hurricanes made Rod Brind'Amour a healthy scratch for a game. Now, he's been stripped of his captaincy as the team begins to rebuild. Eric Staal is the new captain, the 13th in franchise history. [Canes Country]
The ownership group of the Tampa Bay Lightning have gone into default on financing being handled by the previous ownership group, Palace Sports and Entertainment Inc., who own the Detroit Pistons. [Red Wings Corner] and [Raw Charge]
Here's a statistics article about hitting. No Flyers are involved. Bizarro world? [Behind The Net]
Patrice Cormier of the Rouyn-Noranda Huskies in the QMJHL will learn his fate on Monday, when that league reviews and hands down discipline for his vicious hit on Quebec's Michael Tam. If you missed the video of the hit, here it is. Be warned, it's extremely graphic. [SBN Hockey]
The Penguins goaltender carousel keeps on spinnin' during Marc-Andre Fleury's absence. Boo hoo. [Pensburgh]
Ever wonder what it's like to be a beer league referee? [Globe & Mail]
Danny Syvret's Winter Classic jersey auction continues, ending tonight at midnight. Current price: $1,001.01. [NHL Auctions]

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I’ll go ahead and make the joke that any non-Flyers fans reading this post will want to leave:

that hitting article doesn’t include any Flyers because it’s a list of legal hits! HAHAHAHAHA

Also it is admittedly surprising that we are middle of the road in man games lost. I suppose that while we have had plenty of injuries, we have been lucky in that Gagne, Powe and Betts (aka none of our top scorers, and yes, I’m saying that Gagne is in no way one of our top threats to score) are the only forwards we’ve lost for extended periods. And that none of our top pair dmen have missed more than a few games. ::knocks on wood::

by eeeeee on Jan 21, 2010 8:35 AM EST reply actions

I respectfully disagree about Gagne. He should currently be 3rd on the team in points per game. Carter has 42 points in 48 games, Richards has 40 points in 48 games, Gagne has 19 points in 24 games. If the Pittsburgh goal had counted, his production rate would be exactly the same as Richards’. I feel that should count for something.

by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 21, 2010 9:35 AM EST up reply actions

I am with you DragonGirl. I still consider Gagne a top threat for this team. But, for some reason Gagne is a bit snake bitten. He is getting chances but is getting unlucky and not finding the back of the twine.
I am still holding out that he will regain his form and started netting some important goals.

by Mitchell Green on Jan 21, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions

And that’s still the popular opinion on the block, I think, that he is still a star but just going through a rough patch- which is why I curse the day they gave him an NTC.

by eeeeee on Jan 21, 2010 11:19 AM EST up reply actions

And in those same 24 games he has 6 goals. Three of which came in one game. And in the nine games since the hat trick game- 1 goal.

He has been totally irrelevant this season (with the exception of that one game where he was admittedly awesome) and the only time I ever notice him on the ice is when he’s shooting wide or into the goalie’s chest. And I mean totally irrelevant in every sense- he never makes plays on the forecheck, his speed has diminished, his passing is average, and he is no longer the physical presence he was in 2006. Remember 05-06, when he used to own the puck, and dominate opposing forwards with his newfound strength, forcing turnovers all over the place, and flying down the ice to be in perfect position for a Forsberg feed? I guess Gagne may be the only person around rooting for another lockout, so he can hit the gym again.

by eeeeee on Jan 21, 2010 11:16 AM EST up reply actions

it would be awesome if Mario was the guy bidding on Syvret’s jersey.

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by HockeyOutsiders on Jan 21, 2010 10:10 AM EST reply actions

LOL

a tip of the hat to you sir

by chrislanci on Jan 21, 2010 10:31 AM EST up reply actions

Janssen on Price was amazing.

I’m personally of the opinion that any time the goalie leaves his area (however you wish to define that, I wouldn’t include behind the net), he’s fair game. When you’re that far out, playing a puck along the boards, should Janssen just stop skating?

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 21, 2010 11:06 AM EST reply actions

While I don’t think goalies should be fair game ever, Price didn’t leave him much of an option. If Janssen was a better skater maybe he could have avoided it.

by ToddtheFox on Jan 21, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions

I don’t think there was much he could’ve done in that situation, really.

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by Travis Hughes on Jan 21, 2010 4:21 PM EST up reply actions

And there was no way Price was going to back down leaving Janssen an easy puck.
But goalies should not be fair game for hits. They’ve spent their entire career dealing with slashes and what not, but have never had to feel a hit directly. I’ve been taken out when I’ve roamed but never like a full on body check.

Goalies face 30 odd hard rubber disks flying at them every game. No way should they have to do that on top of being hit by 200lb skaters

by ToddtheFox on Jan 21, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions

My point is that if you’re going to go out as far as Price did, where he can’t freeze the puck, he shouldn’t be seen as a goalie. If he can’t do what a goalie does that no one else can, why does he still get protection no one else does?

I’m not advocating a run on goalies, but the trapezoid is a method to corner goalies in, making them fair game outside the faceoff dots seems like a logical cousin of that. Without extra lines though.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 21, 2010 4:56 PM EST up reply actions

Its difficult, but from a goalie P.O.V, we play a different game to everyone else on the rink. Would you be prepared to go the other way? If a goalie can take a hit, is he allowed to dish one out? Would it be ok to see goalies practice hitting and taking hits? Call me a purist but it doesn’t seem right to me.

The trapezoid is a terrible rule. I hope they get rid of it soon.

by ToddtheFox on Jan 21, 2010 5:26 PM EST up reply actions

Knowing full well how ridiculous it sounds – and would look – I’d be okay with goalies throwing hits outside the faceoff dots. Mainly because I don’t think it would be common (it would take the goalie out of the play) I do think it’d be hysterical.

I actually don’t have an opinion on the trapezoid. I see it’s faults and I see the reason for implementation. I’m just kind of eh on it. Keep it or lose it, I feel like the reasons behind enacting the trapezoid are similar reasons to implementing open season on goalies outside the faceoff dots.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 21, 2010 7:29 PM EST up reply actions

Adding something else…

It’s been 14 years since the advent of the glow puck on Fox.

http://www.inhistoric.com/2010/1/20/1058967/today-in-sports-history-january

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by Travis Hughes on Jan 21, 2010 11:26 AM EST reply actions

I was getting nostalgic a few days ago for their robot animations post goal. Fox Trax was just kinda strange, though.

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by Ben Rothenberg on Jan 21, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions

Those animations were pretty sweet. Then again, I was quite young, so that might have had something to do with it. Even then, I hated the damn glow puck.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 21, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions

I never understood the inclusion of robots in sport.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Jan 21, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions

I think they are just preparing for the inevitable inclusion of robots in sports. I wonder who will be the first to break the fleshy barrier and be the first robot to play professional sports.

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by jello44 on Jan 21, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions

Jackie Robotson MLB in you the year 3000 ….

by chrislanci on Jan 21, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions

hehehehehe, win

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by eeeeee on Jan 22, 2010 1:56 PM EST up reply actions

14 YEARS ago? There’s that old feeling again…

Some think too much, then come too soon
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by jello44 on Jan 21, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions

I was wishing for the glow puck as I watched from my seats at the Winter Classic.

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by HockeyOutsiders on Jan 21, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions

It’s a good thing I decided to read the article, because I thought I was going senile. I could have sworn that the glow puck scheme was right around the turn of the century…and it was. They only used it for the All Star Game in 96. Still, it’s been a decade since they used it for that whole season. And since Pokemon came to prominence. The two things are obviously intertwined.

by eeeeee on Jan 21, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions

Damnit, I obviously am going senile, since I totally misread the little paragraph. My senility is a little alarming to me, since I’m only 24. Oh well. Nevermind everything I said, except for the Pokemon/Foxtrax conspiracy- it’s real, people

by eeeeee on Jan 21, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions