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Game 51, Preview and Game Thread: Pittsburgh Penguins at Philadelphia Flyers

Pittsburgh Penguins at Philadelphia Flyers, Jan 24, 2010 12:30 PM EST


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#4 Pittsburgh Penguins (31-20-1, 63 pts) at #6 Philadelphia Flyers (26-21-3, 55 pts)
Wachovia Center - 12:30 PM ET - Philadelphia, PA
TV: NBC HD, TSN 2, RIS
Radio: 610 WIP
This is the open game thread.
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Alright, so get this. With a win in regulation today, the Flyers will have 57 points through 51 games. The Pittsburgh Penguins will have 63 points through 53 games. With wins in those two games in hand, the Flyers could sit just two points behind their currently 4th-seeded cross-state rivals.

This would've been a pipe dream oh, a month ago, but the Flyers solid 30 days of good hockey seem to be finally paying off. Of course, they can't let off the gas pedal any time soon and they must continue piling up points, as any tiny losing spell could push them dangerously off the playoff cliff.

And it's not like it gets easy with Pittsburgh coming in to town today. We know all about that team from across the state and we're more than aware that they're really good at hockey. What you may not know, however, is that they're apparently not so great when they play in afternoon contests. Frank from Pensburgh...

Of course, it always seems like the Penguins play subpar hockey during afternoon games.  This season the Pens have only played two games before 7pm, at 3:00 and 5:00 during their swing through Florida earlier this month, and took a loss in each outing.  Last season's afternoon record, as in games before 7pm,  was 6-10-1 (minus the 2:30pm start in Stockholm which was technically not an afternoon start).  Three of those were against the Flyers, in which Philly edged them out slightly with a 2-1 record.

Should that be a reason for optimism today? Consider that last time these teams played on NBC in the afternoon, the Flyers blew a three goal lead and their season in Game 6 last year.

It's likely, although it hasn't been announced officially, that Ray Emery will get another go today in the Philadelphia crease. He'll surely be challenged a lot more than he has been the last few games. Marc-Andre Fleury will likely be back in action on the Pittsburgh side for the first time since breaking a finger on January 14. That's certainly a welcome sight for them, as the Pens have allowed 16 goals in their three games without their star goaltender.

Max Talbot is out with a case of the Philadelphia flu.

It's a six game home winning streak on the line today in South Philadelphia for the orange and black. They might've had trouble getting up for yesterday's tilt with Carolina, but you can be sure that won't be the case today. Cue up the organ, because Crosby sucks... right?

After the jump, questions to answer, the starting lineups and goaltenders, and our in-game discussion.

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One more quick note. The Pittsburgh media is also a joke. From today's Pittsburgh Tribune-Review...

Matt Cooke fought Atlanta star Ilya Kovalchuk — not exactly the confrontational type — earlier this season. The circumstances in that altercation, though, were completely different. Kovalchuk actually sought out Cooke and dropped his gloves first, whereas Carcillo appeared to make something of a calculated effort to single out Gaborik.

Commence laughter... now. Oh, and **** Pittsburgh.

Flyers Line Combinations

Hartnell - Carter - Briere
Gagne - Richards - Powe
JVR - Giroux - Asham
Carcillo - Betts - Laperriere

Carle - Pronger
Coburn - Timonen
Tollefsen - Bartulis

Pittsburgh Line Combinations

Dupuis - Crosby - Guerin
Fedotenko - Malkin - Johnson
Cooke - Staal - Kennedy
Rupp - Adams - Godard

Gonchar - Orpik
McKee - Goligoski
Eaton - Letang

Starting Goaltenders


GP MIN W L EGA GA GAA SA SV SV% SO
Ray Emery 25 1446 14 9 67 2.78 683 616 .902 2


GP MIN W L EGA GA GAA SA SV SV% SO
Marc-Andre Fleury 41 2354 25 14 102 2.60 1106 1004 .908 0


Questions To Answer

  1. Will Fleury be shaky in goal today, his first game in over a week? Can the Flyers pepper him with shots and make him work early?
  2. Mike Richards was invisible yesterday. Can he not be so invisible today, and maybe even pick up his 100th NHL goal?
  3. How much ice time will Eric Godard see today?
  4. Can Chris Pronger keep his four game point streak in tact?
  5. Funniest sign in the building today?

Join the ever lovable NBC crew as they call today's game. Or, hit the mute button and try to sync up 610 WIP with the moving pictures. As always, join us here for the conversation, and LET'S GO FLYERS!

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They might’ve had trouble getting up for yesterday’s tilt with Carolina, but you can be sure that won’t be the case today.

Because they Flyers never fail to show up against good teams?

by MarioD on Jan 24, 2010 10:42 AM EST reply actions  

Man, you’re relentless.

Quoting Laviolette yesterday…

"I don’t know if we got caught a little bit in the drop of emotion from that Ranger game, and looking forward to that Pittsburgh game," he said. "I give the guys credit because it wasn’t our best game and we walked away with points, and that’s the most important thing."

If they aren’t up for the game today, maybe I’ll join your crusade. Don’t count on it though.

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by Travis Hughes on Jan 24, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Do Penguins fans seriously call Letang “Tangers”? If so thats hilarious. I was unaware Letang was a character on the hit broadway show “Cats”.

by Parduno on Jan 24, 2010 11:00 AM EST reply actions  

I call him Chris “nine fingers” Letang. Finger biting good!

by MJDII on Jan 24, 2010 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Mmmm mmmmm mmmm mmmmm good! Tasty!

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by Mike B on D on Jan 24, 2010 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I call him French for “The Tang”

by Phalange on Jan 24, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

So let me get this straight…Kovi can drop the gloves with Cooke and its ok, Nash can drop the gloves with Shultz(yesterday) and it’s ok. But when Carcillo drops the gloves with Gaborik, he is gutless, has no honor and pretty much the worst human being on earth…did I get that right?

Glad to see the media isn’t biased or anything.

My only fear, or rather concern is that the next time the Flyers and Rangers play, one of their guys actually does try and take a run at someone all because they are too stupid to watch the tape and see in plain view how incredibly misguided and ridiculous they are.

by EREX21 on Jan 24, 2010 11:07 AM EST reply actions  

Maybe I’m still getting sleep out of my eyes, but the Penguins are 15-27-7? Crosby DOES suck.

"So basically, the Stats make no sense whatsoever."

by Mark D on Jan 24, 2010 11:10 AM EST reply actions  

Not to mention the Flyers are 26-21-3, not what is listed above. Slight oversight I would imagine.

by EREX21 on Jan 24, 2010 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Fixed.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 24, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I sometimes wish we could chant something else besides “Crosby Sucks” when the organ pipes blow.
19,000+ chanting “Malkins Ugly” would certainly catch the pens off guard

by Prometheus74 on Jan 24, 2010 11:25 AM EST reply actions  

how about...

DA DA dah DA NBC SUCKS!
DA DA dah DA NBC SUCKS!

you callin me a know-nothin? sir, i'll have you know i happen to know very little.

by hockey punk on Jan 24, 2010 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

A while back, I was in Long Island and exchanged friendly razzing with a long time Isles fan there. It was all in good fun and we both gave as good as we got. Suddenly that chicken song comes on and they yell “The RANGERS SUCK!” No matter who they play. We bonded after that. Bad team, great crowd.

Maybe the key is to ignore Crosby all together? I like the NBC sucks chant. Make it just like any other game rather than falling prey to the NHL’s Crosby hype brigade. Or give the players something to laugh at . Like maybea packed house waving giant foam fingers with bite marks on it labeled with Letang’s number.

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by Mike B on D on Jan 24, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

See honestly I wish the fans would actually chant things that are a bit classless. I mean, I dislike Crosby as much as the next Flyers fan but sometimes it gets annoying. During the World Series this past year the Anti Yanks chants were the worse. Profanity laced. I don’t know, maybe I am the only one that gets annoyed by it but that’s just how I am.

by EREX21 on Jan 24, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

no, i completely hate the ‘crosby sucks’ chant and any sorta harsh profanity at the game also, especially since there’s tons of kids there. but at some point it needs to register to the people screaming CROSBY SUCKS at the top of your lungs makes em look so stupid. not only are they fuelling his fire, but you could be screaming LETS GO FLYERS instead. or something really unusual and funny.

you callin me a know-nothin? sir, i'll have you know i happen to know very little.

by hockey punk on Jan 24, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

please, please, please play shittsburgh like you did the Rangers.

i can’t f*ckin stand those “fans”!

you callin me a know-nothin? sir, i'll have you know i happen to know very little.

by hockey punk on Jan 24, 2010 11:44 AM EST reply actions  

almost forgot….anyone notice since Holmgren said “we’re not trading Jeff Carter” he’s actually been playin like he should’ve been all along?

you callin me a know-nothin? sir, i'll have you know i happen to know very little.

by hockey punk on Jan 24, 2010 12:04 PM EST reply actions  

Did anyone see this after yesterday’s game:

In their last 15 games, the Betts (Carcillo, Lappy) line has scored 10 even strength goals. Carter line has 10 and the Richards line has 8.

From John Boruk’s Twitter.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 24, 2010 12:13 PM EST reply actions  

What I’m really enjoying is NBC’s pregame coverage. Tell me more about how to blend fruits and vegetables, Montel!

"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."

by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 12:29 PM EST reply actions  

I especially liked how quick they were to recap all of the hockey games.

“He scored, he scored and the final was….”

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by FrankD on Jan 24, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m also enjoying that we’re playing Pittsburgh on the back end of a back-to-back for the third time in our last four contests against them. Pittsburgh played the night before in exactly 0 of these 3 games.

"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."

by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 12:35 PM EST reply actions  

So Fleury is not starting then. Nice.

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by Justin F. on Jan 24, 2010 12:38 PM EST reply actions  

yeah I didn’t think he would today. He might come back from that broken finger tomorrow against the Rangers.

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by FrankD on Jan 24, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

More accurately Max Talbot is out with a case of low self esteem. He hasn’t been very productive so far this year and he knows it

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by FrankD on Jan 24, 2010 12:38 PM EST reply actions  

I hope carbomb fights malkin today.

by Chocula78 on Jan 24, 2010 12:38 PM EST reply actions  

anyone have a live stream URL for this game?

NHL gamecenter is blacked out b/c of the game being on NBC

by SanDiegoScraps on Jan 24, 2010 12:41 PM EST reply actions  

It’s working today. Just click on the NBC link

by JLS89 on Jan 24, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

good hitting from the boys so far

by Prometheus74 on Jan 24, 2010 12:42 PM EST reply actions  

The first goal in today’s game is HUGE.

by Chocula78 on Jan 24, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d like to think we won’t see a high-scoring game, but weirder things have happened

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by FrankD on Jan 24, 2010 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Btw, I hope your MB buddies are more logical than the Rangers blog. Those guys were spewing stupid on Thursday.

by Chocula78 on Jan 24, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

MB?

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by FrankD on Jan 24, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d assume “message board,” but I’ll take the risk and say he meant “Masturbating Bear.”

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This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."

by IcersGuy on Jan 24, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Mother Burghers????

by MJDII on Jan 24, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

hah good ol Conan reference

I’d like to think most of the readers over at Pensburgh don’t spew stupid, but i guess that’s up for interpretation based on different fan bases

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by FrankD on Jan 24, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s what they’re sayin. “Head trauma” of sorts.

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by FrankD on Jan 24, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

we lit up whoever brought the puck off sides

by Prometheus74 on Jan 24, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

crosby with a slash

by j reed on Jan 24, 2010 12:44 PM EST reply actions  

YESSSSSSSS

"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."

by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 12:45 PM EST reply actions  

Is this the first time he’s ever been in the penalty box?

/Sarcasm
//Refs and NHL love Crosby

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by Justin F. on Jan 24, 2010 12:45 PM EST reply actions  

CARTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by EREX21 on Jan 24, 2010 12:45 PM EST reply actions  

Carter from behind the red line!

by Prometheus74 on Jan 24, 2010 12:45 PM EST reply actions  

CARTER!!!!!

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by Justin F. on Jan 24, 2010 12:45 PM EST reply actions  

Nice second effort.

by Chocula78 on Jan 24, 2010 12:45 PM EST reply actions  

Why isn’t Fluery between the pipes?

by Chocula78 on Jan 24, 2010 12:45 PM EST reply actions  

injured still id guess

by ryan1 on Jan 24, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Dammit Carter!, Well it worked the first time.

by MJDII on Jan 24, 2010 12:46 PM EST reply actions  

thank you hockey gods

by j reed on Jan 24, 2010 12:46 PM EST reply actions  

hehehe oh asham, you don’t have moves. =p

"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."

by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 12:47 PM EST reply actions  

Why of all people did they Mic up Danny C?

by orangeandblack20 on Jan 24, 2010 12:48 PM EST reply actions  

Probably so they could prove how “gutless” and how “without honor” he is based on what he says during the heat of the moment.

by EREX21 on Jan 24, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Here’s a quote:
Beeping Beep Beep Beep Beep Crosby Beep.

by Chocula78 on Jan 24, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

the could resist the moustache

by j reed on Jan 24, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

The FBI still wants him for the Manson killings

by MJDII on Jan 24, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh Eddie O.

He transitioned a conversation from Geno’s Cheesesteaks to saying that “Geno” (Malkin) was on the ice now.

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by Justin F. on Jan 24, 2010 12:50 PM EST reply actions  

What a bullshit penalty.

by EREX21 on Jan 24, 2010 12:51 PM EST reply actions  

Looks like bettman is getting his hands into this game early.

by Chocula78 on Jan 24, 2010 12:51 PM EST reply actions  

Harts gets another 2 by reputation.

"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."

by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 12:51 PM EST reply actions  

ARE U F***ING KIDDING ME

by orangeandblack20 on Jan 24, 2010 12:51 PM EST reply actions  

That was hit from behind right?

by MJDII on Jan 24, 2010 12:52 PM EST reply actions  

Not if you are wearing white it isn’t.

by EREX21 on Jan 24, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Not only was he pushed into Johnson, he was CROSS CHECKED into the goalie. Give me a mother f’ing break.

by EREX21 on Jan 24, 2010 12:52 PM EST reply actions  

I think refs call that purely by hart’s reputation

by j reed on Jan 24, 2010 12:52 PM EST reply actions  

thats a BS reputation call

by Prometheus74 on Jan 24, 2010 12:52 PM EST reply actions  

Oof. He was pushed into the goalie.

And am I the only one that thinks that Johnson had a nice bit of acting there?

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by Justin F. on Jan 24, 2010 12:52 PM EST reply actions  

reminded me of a soccer game seeing johnson go down that easily

by ryan1 on Jan 24, 2010 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Hints of Hasek

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This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."

by IcersGuy on Jan 24, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I think last year in the playoffs the Pens proved that they all know when to go down to draw calls. See: Jordan Staal. He might be the strongest skater they have, but if he looks down and sees a stick in his skates, he’ll pass the puck and take the dive. I’ve seen him do it a bunch of times. It’s painful.

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

well it figures, just as i’m saying this pronger and hartnell prove that they’ve taken similar lessons. =\

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

We’ll get our make up call soon

by orangeandblack20 on Jan 24, 2010 12:52 PM EST reply actions  

There better be a make up call coming….>:(

by Chocula78 on Jan 24, 2010 12:52 PM EST reply actions  

Just like that. The Penguins do get a cross check called on them.

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by Justin F. on Jan 24, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

A lot of pretty passing there for nothing!

by Chocula78 on Jan 24, 2010 12:53 PM EST reply actions  

If power plays were graded based on passing the Penguins would be #1. But since it’s not, that’s why they are ranked in the bottom 5

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by FrankD on Jan 24, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL and an Oscar to Prongs. No way he fell that easily he is a tank.

by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 24, 2010 12:54 PM EST reply actions  

Surprised he didn’t get called for diving.

by EREX21 on Jan 24, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

how often is that actually called

by j reed on Jan 24, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Not often but it does happen. When a guy like Pronger who is a tank goes down that easily, it makes it that much more obvious though.

by EREX21 on Jan 24, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

lets score on boys

by ryan1 on Jan 24, 2010 12:56 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed… a goal would be huge here

by JLS89 on Jan 24, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

another pp for us? wow

by j reed on Jan 24, 2010 12:56 PM EST reply actions  

No wonder...

People dive so much. 3 of the 4 Penalties today have been embellished a bit. On both sides.

by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 24, 2010 12:57 PM EST reply actions  

Its now a dive fest

by MJDII on Jan 24, 2010 12:58 PM EST reply actions  

Richie has been one of our worst players the last 10 games. Useless right now.

by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 24, 2010 12:58 PM EST reply actions  

Oh good grief. These refs do like asserting themselves in this game. Although I don’t disagree with that call, these refs have been calling everything.

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by Justin F. on Jan 24, 2010 12:58 PM EST reply actions  

I hate that rat face!

by Prometheus74 on Jan 24, 2010 12:58 PM EST reply actions  

carle just got out hustled by crosby there. Step it up Matt

by Chocula78 on Jan 24, 2010 12:58 PM EST reply actions  

Too many calls. This is going to be a long game at this rate

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by FrankD on Jan 24, 2010 12:59 PM EST reply actions  

Pretty

Hartnell’s Goalie interference and the cross check on Pronger were horribly officiated.

by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 24, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think Prong’s would have flopped if we weren’t short handed and in need of a make up

by orangeandblack20 on Jan 24, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

and I think the Johnson interference call was a make up as well.

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by FrankD on Jan 24, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

i feel like the cross check was probably a make up call, cause the refs look up and see the same replays everyone else does.

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

the 4 on 4 felt like we are shorthanded

by Prometheus74 on Jan 24, 2010 1:01 PM EST reply actions  

I hope the fans at the game keep the crosby sux chant to a minimum. It doesnt do anything but make him play better.

by Chocula78 on Jan 24, 2010 1:02 PM EST reply actions  

it doesn’t do anything but make the fans happy. he plays great regardless of goading from our fans.

"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."

by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Goal?

"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."

by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 1:04 PM EST reply actions  

there you go richie!

by Chocula78 on Jan 24, 2010 1:04 PM EST reply actions  

RICHARDS!!!!!!!!!!

by ryan1 on Jan 24, 2010 1:04 PM EST reply actions  

Wow that was perfect placement on that shot

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by FrankD on Jan 24, 2010 1:04 PM EST reply actions  

Is that a goal?

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by Justin F. on Jan 24, 2010 1:04 PM EST reply actions  

waving it off

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by FrankD on Jan 24, 2010 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

What a juicy rebound Richards nailed

by Prometheus74 on Jan 24, 2010 1:04 PM EST reply actions  

Who is the penalty on?

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by Justin F. on Jan 24, 2010 1:04 PM EST reply actions  

Malkin with the high hit. Ass.

by Chocula78 on Jan 24, 2010 1:05 PM EST reply actions  

and gagne with the two minors somehow?! wtf?!?

"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."

by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

that is some bs right there...

damn, it was a pretty shot by Richie…

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by Jordan Ellel on Jan 24, 2010 1:05 PM EST reply actions  

i dont even know what to say other than this just sucks

by ryan1 on Jan 24, 2010 1:06 PM EST reply actions  

This is starting to feel like a normal bs Pitt-Philly game at this point…

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by Jordan Ellel on Jan 24, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Crosby complaining…..in other obvious news, water is wet.

by Chocula78 on Jan 24, 2010 1:06 PM EST reply actions  

well way to go, gagne. you can’t score goals, and you can’t keep your emotions in check and let your linemates score goals. god damnit.

"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."

by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 1:06 PM EST reply actions  

This is just friggin ridiculous….why are the ref’s breaking up a hug feast and thus disallowing a goal…? Why not wait until the gloves are dropped?

This game has been filled with absolute shit ref jobs. A guy can get hit in the face with the pug and lay on the ice covering his face but the play will go on…two guys are wrapped up and suddenly a guy 60 feet away is making calls? Ridiculous.

by EREX21 on Jan 24, 2010 1:07 PM EST reply actions  

and now the penguins score. just frustrating.

by ryan1 on Jan 24, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

surprise, surprise

"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."

by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 1:07 PM EST reply actions  

you keep them on the pp for long enough, they’re bound to score

"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."

by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 1:07 PM EST reply actions  

Ugh. From 2-0 Flyers to tied at 1. Nauseating officiating in this game.

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by Justin F. on Jan 24, 2010 1:08 PM EST reply actions  

Someone at the Pens organization owes Bettman a thank you note for that goal.

by Chocula78 on Jan 24, 2010 1:08 PM EST reply actions  

What a joke. I always expect the NHL refs to screw the pooch on a Pens vs. anyone game.

by DrMSM on Jan 24, 2010 1:08 PM EST reply actions  

This is horrible. Fight soon.

by orangeandblack20 on Jan 24, 2010 1:08 PM EST reply actions  

exactly what i was about to say. we need one badly, to distract from this seething hate that i have flowing through me right now

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

How dare you suggest such a dishonorable thing!

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by Justin F. on Jan 24, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Fine, Carbomb v. Malkin

by Chocula78 on Jan 24, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

hhehehe, there is no honor in this game thread. you know, i don’t wear the uniform, i just sit here in a suit and tie but….just no honor

"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."

by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Screw that we are outplaying them. All we need is 2= minutes of hockey and our tempo will put another in the net

by Prometheus74 on Jan 24, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

i agree… Right now the Pens. need us to beat ourselves to win

by j reed on Jan 24, 2010 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

carbomb v gonchar. i feel like that would be the most controversial pairing.

"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."

by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

No, Crosby could sucker punch Carbomb in the face, he would respond, kick Crosby’s ass and somehow get a game misconduct out of it.

No thanks. Let Carbomb fight one of Pittsburgh’s goons.

by EREX21 on Jan 24, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

damn that would be fantastic.

by thwalls on Jan 24, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

This broadcast needs more commercials with the Pens in them

by Chocula78 on Jan 24, 2010 1:12 PM EST reply actions  

I especially don’t need more about Talbot and Crosby in the basement together.

by MJDII on Jan 24, 2010 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Refs ruinging this game. Too many PPs, absolutely no flow.

by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 24, 2010 1:13 PM EST reply actions  

no kiddin. the penalties are pretty ridiculous

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by FrankD on Jan 24, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

carle was desperate to break our streak of 3 straight games without allowing a goal directly off of a bad defensive turnover

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 1:14 PM EST reply actions  

There’s your fight. Can’t say I would’ve picked Letang as a combatant, but whatevs

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by FrankD on Jan 24, 2010 1:15 PM EST reply actions  

nice hit by powe

by ryan1 on Jan 24, 2010 1:16 PM EST reply actions  

Look at me I’m an NBC announcer, and I have a boner for the Penguins!

by bfrank27 on Jan 24, 2010 1:16 PM EST reply actions  

Ok see this is the bullshit I am talking about…throwing punches when a guy is pinned to the ice. Letang is garbage. Carbomb immediately stopped punching Gaborik when he went down and then you have this Letang jerk off throwing punches when Powe is on his back. But D.C is the one with no honor.

by EREX21 on Jan 24, 2010 1:16 PM EST reply actions  

At least they called Letang for something!

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by 3DLink on Jan 24, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Which is great but guys should automatically get 2 minutes for throwing punches when a guy is on the ice. Period.

by EREX21 on Jan 24, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

They should’ve called Instigation and could’ve called another 2 penalties from where I was sitting. THe interference call seemed… superfluous

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by 3DLink on Jan 24, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

letang pulled an avery- realizing he couldn’t win the fight, he decided to tackle powe, and get in his shots while he was on top of him. nice.

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 1:16 PM EST reply actions  

i thought they were going to clamp down on retaliation over clean hits?

by thwalls on Jan 24, 2010 1:16 PM EST reply actions  

I didn’t see them call it at first, I thought it was going to be 5 for both

by thwalls on Jan 24, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

my thoughts precisely.

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

i guess they did

by ryan1 on Jan 24, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Well at least we get the power play out of it.

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by Justin F. on Jan 24, 2010 1:17 PM EST reply actions  

for once

We’re actually outplaying the Pens. If we keep it up we should be alright.

by thwalls on Jan 24, 2010 1:19 PM EST reply actions  

hopefully they won’t fizzle by the 3rd, this being the 2nd game of back to back games

by j reed on Jan 24, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

20 pretty solid minutes of hockey. do we have the legs to put out the same effort in the 2nd and 3rd? time will tell

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 1:20 PM EST reply actions  

Could you really tell it was solid when the play was broken up every 2 minutes for a penalty call? I honestly couldn’t tell.

by EREX21 on Jan 24, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

hopefully the disallowed goal turned to a penguins goal doesn’t ruin their spirits

by edbro on Jan 24, 2010 1:20 PM EST reply actions  

if it does than they aren’t professionals

by j reed on Jan 24, 2010 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

i agree but it blows dick going from potentially 2-0 to 1-1

by edbro on Jan 24, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

that’s a little unfair. they are humans. but now they have an intermission to get over it, and a good coach will do what he has to do in that locker room to turn it around

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Line for line we are uouplaying them
With all the penalties called we cant play all our lines and utilize our current advantage

by Prometheus74 on Jan 24, 2010 1:21 PM EST reply actions  

Licking his chops going in? Are they kidding?

by EREX21 on Jan 24, 2010 1:24 PM EST reply actions  

i cant wait for this to blow over… its so annoying to hear everyone flip the story

by edbro on Jan 24, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

just about everything I’ve seen in venues dedicated to hockey that isn’t in NY, is basically calling NY whiners. Who cares its NBC. It’s getting a bit persecution complex on our part.

by j reed on Jan 24, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

where is 30 rock again? NEW YORK!?!? CONSPIRACY!

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

F.U. Milbury! He’s summarizing the New York media’s recap of that game on Thursday.

Ugh.

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by Justin F. on Jan 24, 2010 1:25 PM EST reply actions  

There is no reason to even listen to the NBC intermission reports…

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by 3DLink on Jan 24, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

i actually turned over to, of all things, bowling on ESPN. That’s what I think about NBC intermission reports. The idea of Millbury and McGuire sitting face to face arguing over something doesn’t appeal to me at all. Every since last year when they looked exceptionally stupid following an argument over fighting

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by FrankD on Jan 24, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

hehehe as an avid bowler i take offense to the notion that tuning in to bowling over something else is a slight on that something else! hmph! =p

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

How cares when the alternative is watching an expose on Crosby hurting his elbow…
How is this relevant to the game we’re watching?

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by 3DLink on Jan 24, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

heh rest assured I Wii bowl like crazy. That’s about it. A history of sprained wrists and what I believe to be the onset of carpal tunnel (insert masturbation joke here) makes it hard to bowl for real, although sometimes I deal with the pain and bowl a few frames.

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by FrankD on Jan 24, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah definitely not worth it with chronic wrist problems. I sprained my wrist mid-season last year and had to bowl through the pain for four months. It was not pleasant. I can only imagine bowling on that pain every time you throw the ball forever. No thank you.

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Australian Open on ESPN2
Great mach with Roddick on

by Prometheus74 on Jan 24, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

that’s unbelieveable! now the fucking national tv outlets are bashing us for this carcillo/gaborik bullshit. my god am i tired of hearing about this- and once again the “licking my chops” quote is misquoted and taken out of context. fuck the national media bias a thousand times forever.

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 1:26 PM EST reply actions  

Not only was it taken out of context it was taken out of time…he said it after the game and yet somehow they make it sound like going into the game he said that he was licking his chops to fight Gabby. Who licks their chops to fight a guy with one previous fight in his career? It doesn’t even make sense. I wish Homer or someone would go on record and call the media out for their bullshit.

by EREX21 on Jan 24, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I liked that JJ and the guys at least had some things to say about it during last night’s game. But of course those words only go out to us. National media bias is what it is, and there’s really very little we can do about it. Also I didn’t even hear about Nash/Shultz until you posted it earlier. Where’s the outrage over that crap? It’s ridiculous.

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

That game yesterday did go out to CSN California, so at least they got to hear the truth.

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by Justin F. on Jan 24, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice. That’s something. Though I doubt how much the Sharks or Kings fanbase cares about us or our lack of honor.

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m late on this, but Fear the Fin linked to Travis’s article on bias in their equivalent of our Morning Fly By, taking our side.

by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 24, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Face it our owner wants to make $$$ selling the flyers as the HHH of the NHL. I bet he is encouraging this crap to be disseminated throughout the media

by Prometheus74 on Jan 24, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I just got back from the hardware store

cause I needed another spike to nail our other hand to the cross. we’re sounding like a a bunch of hockey martyrs?

by j reed on Jan 24, 2010 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Really? I think this is a pretty legitimate gripe we have here, and if the story won’t stop coming up, then why would we stop being upset about it?

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

so what..i want to win I don’t care about anything else

by j reed on Jan 24, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

and if, say, avery takes a run at one of our superstars or tries to force them into dropping the gloves because of all the bs surrounding this incident, you wouldn’t consider that detrimental to our ability to win games?

winning is always paramount, but that doesn’t mean this isn’t a story. and personally i’ve gotten pretty sick of defending the flyers against their reputation over the years. if you’re not a fan of the story then that’s fine, but that doesn’t mean you have to take shots at people who do care about it. It’s like the richards v media thing- i couldn’t possibly care less about something than i do about that, but it’s interesting to others who follow the flyers, so let them talk about it all they want. i’ll stay out of the discussion.

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

So glad I’m missing the NBC shit today. Lots of atmosphere in the building of course.

We had the leg up in the first but after the goal was waved off Pitt got some jump. We need to score on this early PP.

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by Travis Hughes on Jan 24, 2010 1:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Lots of atmosphere in the building of course.

The Wachovia Center consistently rates as one of the toughest buildings to play in among the entire league. You folks do a helluva job in there.

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by Knee high to a duck on Jan 24, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

hehehehe i like your persistence

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice play on the rush there.

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by Knee high to a duck on Jan 24, 2010 1:39 PM EST reply actions  

Emery got there so slowly but just in time!!!!

by Prometheus74 on Jan 24, 2010 1:40 PM EST reply actions  

i just hope the Pens. didn’t watch flim from yesterday game vs. the canes

by j reed on Jan 24, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

god that was scary

by ryan1 on Jan 24, 2010 1:41 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

This has to be the longest this game has one without a whistle, right?

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by Justin F. on Jan 24, 2010 1:42 PM EST reply actions  

This game has gone without a whistle, right?

Sorry for the typo.

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by Justin F. on Jan 24, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

they got soccer refs. for this game

by j reed on Jan 24, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Is that Gagne’s first shift? Talk about invisible.

by MJDII on Jan 24, 2010 1:43 PM EST reply actions  

well he did get the dbl minors to negate our 2nd goal

by Prometheus74 on Jan 24, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Your right my bad.

by MJDII on Jan 24, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah he’s been on the ice to take away from the team this game. invisible would be in reference to his season, excluding the hat trick game.

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

A bilateral sportsman hernia could be the culprit esp. for a skater. It’s a tough injury to get over let alone when it occurs in two places. There’s usually some pre-existing weakness in the pelvic floor and other lower body musculature that’s behind the injury…hard to recover from the surgery and correct this pre-existing condition during the season.

by j reed on Jan 24, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

oh yes his injury history precedes him. he hasn’t been the same player since bowmeester game him that concussion. but if he’s not healthy then he shouldn’t be playing. even if he feels “90%,” if he’s still basically rehabbing, then he probably shouldn’t be on the ice. the coaches in this town let their players get away with stuff like that far too often. see: lidge, brad and ibanez, raul and briere, daniel and westbrook, brian (although in his case he is literally always playing hurt, so i can sort of understand).

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

i said “it could be” not it was.

by j reed on Jan 24, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

fair enough, but if it’s not injury that’s much worse.

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

meaning if it’s not injury related then he’s losing his game? I would say that’d be worse…

by j reed on Jan 24, 2010 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed. which would be sad, but if it’s the case the flyers need to come to their senses about it and cut his minutes or try to move him.

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

He played well in the Caps game last week, it’s only really been the last couple of days he’s been off.

by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 24, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

well, you know my feelings on the matter from that thread earlier in the week, but i feel like he’s been utterly invisible all season, and it’s just a case of people not noticing because Gagne’s a name, and a name that people like. like mcnabb can do no wrong because he’s mcnabb

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

so is he tradeable?

by j reed on Jan 24, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

basically all season i’ve been praying that if we have to make another trade that gagne and coburn are on the top of the list to go. of course, i’m pretty sure gagne has an NTC, which obviously complicates things.

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

i was just thinking the same thing

by j reed on Jan 24, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

someone fell and no whistle

by j reed on Jan 24, 2010 1:47 PM EST reply actions  

Oh OKT….

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by Justin F. on Jan 24, 2010 1:49 PM EST reply actions  

that seems to be a common thing for him to do

by Ben16 on Jan 24, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

every time he falls, it seems like the ice is going to break

by SanDiegoScraps on Jan 24, 2010 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeesh. Need to create an opportunity with that much zone time.

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by Knee high to a duck on Jan 24, 2010 1:49 PM EST reply actions  

starting to get our grove back!

by Prometheus74 on Jan 24, 2010 1:52 PM EST reply actions  

crosses fingers

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice little shot from JVR there. Most of our defensemen would have had that shot blocked up high and it would have went the other way. Because JVR can actually place shots we got a decent scoring chance there.

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 1:52 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed, that was very well placed. One of the subtleties that wins games.

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by Knee high to a duck on Jan 24, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

The first seemed to drag on forever and the second is flying by. See what happens when you don’t call lame penalties, refs?

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by Travis Hughes on Jan 24, 2010 1:53 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I was thinking that since last year we had a Hartnells wig night, this year we should have a Lappys novelty teeth night!

by Prometheus74 on Jan 24, 2010 1:54 PM EST reply actions  

Until that little scrum in front of the net, I was going to say that Emery looked great on rebounds and steering pucks into corners.

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by Knee high to a duck on Jan 24, 2010 1:56 PM EST reply actions  

Good cycle and possession to keep the puck away from 87.

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by Knee high to a duck on Jan 24, 2010 1:57 PM EST reply actions  

Gagne is a liability today. Dammit man get in the game.

by MJDII on Jan 24, 2010 1:58 PM EST reply actions  

Watching us play the Pens reminds me of that scene in Old School where Will Ferrell goes “We’ve got to keep our composure!” and then he goes nuts.

by CTFlyer on Jan 24, 2010 1:58 PM EST reply actions  

I’m gonna go all earmuffs if we keep this up (or rather if the Pens keep this up)…

by CTFlyer on Jan 24, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

That was all they could put on air from Carcillo I guess.

by MJDII on Jan 24, 2010 2:01 PM EST reply actions  

That Guerin follow up was pretty creepy

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by FrankD on Jan 24, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I didn’t see that coming. Scary

by ryan1 on Jan 24, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahaha, I would friggin’ love to hear Carcillo uncensored. He’s rapidly becoming one of my favorite Flyers, occasional stupidity aside.

by CTFlyer on Jan 24, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Anyone else mildly concerned that we are outplaying the Pen’s rather well and are still tied at 1?

by EREX21 on Jan 24, 2010 2:02 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, maybe we need a someone with a real accurate wrist shot

by j reed on Jan 24, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

gagne strikes again

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 2:04 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Fuckin Gagne! Killing me. I am just tired of his ass.

by MJDII on Jan 24, 2010 2:05 PM EST reply actions  

What I liked about that last clear was that each person was playing a man in the slot, and bodying him off, rather than chasing the puck. very refreshing thing to see.

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 2:07 PM EST reply actions  

that PK was over in a blink of an eye!

by Prometheus74 on Jan 24, 2010 2:07 PM EST reply actions  

gagne blows a tire, richards makes the nearest penguin PAY. love it.

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 2:07 PM EST reply actions  

Richards with a huge hit

by ryan1 on Jan 24, 2010 2:08 PM EST reply actions  

At least Gagne can’t be penalized for tripping himself.

by mattjg on Jan 24, 2010 2:08 PM EST reply actions  

hehehehehe

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

That was a forgettable period.

by MJDII on Jan 24, 2010 2:10 PM EST reply actions  

this intermission is pretty well timed for you bowling enthusiasts out there. the championship match should be starting after this commercial. ;)

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 2:10 PM EST reply actions  

and for you tennis enthusiasts, Roddick has just forced a 5th set

by Prometheus74 on Jan 24, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Spoiler, he wins

by Ben16 on Jan 24, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

:(

Well, spoiler for you
Flyers win!

by Prometheus74 on Jan 24, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope you are right!

by Ben16 on Jan 24, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Man that period was a yawner.

We definitely were outplayed. Hopefully they wake up during this PP to start.

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by Travis Hughes on Jan 24, 2010 2:16 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I just got to turn the game on… Is Emery actually playing well enough to be keeping us in this game, or is the defense playing well too?

by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 24, 2010 2:18 PM EST reply actions  

definitely a mix. the d has been pretty good, especially on the PK (although their one goal was PP, the play had been so choppy because of random penalty calls at that point, and it was like their fourth or sixth straight minute of PP time), and Emery has been pretty calm and cool, and his rebound control (which has been horrendous since coming back) has been pretty good throughout. He did get beat by a Crosby slapper on a breakaway, but the pipe came to his aid.

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

ow! briere’s head!

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 2:29 PM EST reply actions  

That didn’t look good

by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 24, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Good lets tire them out, and score on the PP

by Prometheus74 on Jan 24, 2010 2:30 PM EST reply actions  

I am the only won tired by the PP.

by MJDII on Jan 24, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

wow, two cross check penalties in one game- when’s the last time you saw that?

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 2:30 PM EST reply actions  

oh, nvm, they called boarding.

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

like the nbc guys said good job by scotty not to retailiate

by ryan1 on Jan 24, 2010 2:30 PM EST reply actions  

oof, gagne makes a positive contribution, gets iron as a reward

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 2:31 PM EST reply actions  

gagne just missed

by Ben16 on Jan 24, 2010 2:31 PM EST reply actions  

man, those were two loud posts we’ve had in this game.

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 2:33 PM EST reply actions  

Has NBC been calling our players names wrong all day?

by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 24, 2010 2:34 PM EST reply actions  

Briere and Gioux have been mixed up alllllll day, So have Coburn and Bartulis.

by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 24, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn’t even catch what they called Batulis last time… but it wasnt the name of anybody on our team

by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 24, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

let’s not forget the ever-popular carcillo/gagne

by lerris on Jan 24, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

The Penguins are the nbc game 3 weeks in a row? geez

by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 24, 2010 2:35 PM EST reply actions  

ho-ly shit, that was a crazy pile up

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 2:36 PM EST reply actions  

it appeared that way

by Ben16 on Jan 24, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure if it was intentional but he clocked Hartnell in the head with his stick.

by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 24, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought that’s what I saw. I guess Goddard will be out next shift?

by orangeandblack20 on Jan 24, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Well if your russian I guess it’s ok.

by thwalls on Jan 24, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

it definitely looked that way. also, i was impressed with malkin’s ability to not drop the gloves, despite being harassed. gaborik could take a lesson. =p

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Right, let’s cut to a commercial in the middle of everything. wtg NBC

by Boog609 on Jan 24, 2010 2:38 PM EST reply actions  

Malkin is a village pillaging Ogre.

by MJDII on Jan 24, 2010 2:40 PM EST reply actions  

Malkin looks like the Kurgan from Highlander

by j reed on Jan 24, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I enjoyed that replay we got of the whole incident. I know I, for one, didn’t want to see what happened there.

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 2:40 PM EST reply actions  

You’d think the people at NBC never watched a telecast of another sporting event in their lives.

by Boog609 on Jan 24, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Damnit Richards!

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by Justin F. on Jan 24, 2010 2:42 PM EST reply actions  

Damnit Flyers!

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by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Dammit Carter! Rebound Rebound

by MJDII on Jan 24, 2010 2:42 PM EST reply actions  

Carer has to open his eyes faster so he can see if theirs a rebound from the shot he took with his eyes closed

by Prometheus74 on Jan 24, 2010 2:42 PM EST reply actions  

Even though we’ve only put 1 on the board, I love the hustle of the new system.

by thwalls on Jan 24, 2010 2:43 PM EST reply actions  

Same. The Flyers are a much better team under Laviolette than they were under Stevens. And more disciplined as well.

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by Justin F. on Jan 24, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Obviously the players arent coaching the team anymore.

by MJDII on Jan 24, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Nooooooooooooooooooooo, good try, but at least there’s a penalty. (?)

by Boog609 on Jan 24, 2010 2:46 PM EST reply actions  

come on boys we gotta put one of these in!

by ryan1 on Jan 24, 2010 2:46 PM EST reply actions  

Peco

Let’s get one boys. Did Richie celebrate that non goal for a split second?

by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 24, 2010 2:46 PM EST reply actions  

stupid commercial. I’d rather watch Lappy try to talk.

by orangeandblack20 on Jan 24, 2010 2:46 PM EST reply actions  

I’ve already seen it at least 3 times and I only turned the game on in the 2nd intermission

by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 24, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

that…..is beautiful…

"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."

by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

i mean, hartnell gets that pass across without blowing it totally, you gotta just shoot richie. no hesitation.

"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."

by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 2:48 PM EST reply actions  

good clean kill, there

"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."

by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 2:52 PM EST reply actions  

OKT was never even on the ice, and they thought Carle was him and even started talking about his history and Norway. These NBC guys are oblivious.

by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 24, 2010 2:53 PM EST reply actions  

Dammit Carter! That was just for me

by MJDII on Jan 24, 2010 2:55 PM EST reply actions  

does anyone else find it bizarre that giroux (about as pure a playmaker as you can get) takes the mike knuble position (reserved for big guys who can take a beating and can’t skate or pass like knubes and leclair)? what’s laviolette’s thought process there? also, gagne needs to be taken off the PP

by lerris on Jan 24, 2010 2:57 PM EST reply actions  

i should clarify: “the mike knuble position on the powerplay”

by lerris on Jan 24, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Really? Timonen? Really?

by Boog609 on Jan 24, 2010 2:58 PM EST reply actions  

son of a b. kimmo……

"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."

by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 2:58 PM EST reply actions  

with emery back there I’m really hoping this doesn’t go to a shoot out…again.

by thwalls on Jan 24, 2010 2:59 PM EST reply actions  

Is it just me or is Kimmo always getting sent to the box(rightfully) very late in the game?

by EREX21 on Jan 24, 2010 2:59 PM EST reply actions  

NOOOO

"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."

by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 2:59 PM EST reply actions  

well i thought, if anything we’d beat ourselves

by j reed on Jan 24, 2010 3:00 PM EST reply actions  

Getting penalized in the last 3 minutes of the game…pretty much beating yourself.

by EREX21 on Jan 24, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I like how Gagne pretends to try to block the puck only to pull his leg up, which is exactly where the puck goes…right under his leg.

Back to the outside looking in on the playoffs.

by EREX21 on Jan 24, 2010 3:01 PM EST reply actions  

There needs to be referee fucking discretion with that fucking bullshit call. Same with that broken stick slash bullshit.

by orangeandblack20 on Jan 24, 2010 3:01 PM EST reply actions  

100% agree. especially on the second part.

"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."

by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

what a knife. such solid hockey for so long, to end like that? god that’s such a fist in the stomach, i’d almost rather lose 7-1

"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."

by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 3:01 PM EST reply actions  

We didnt take advantage of our opportunities earlier.

by Ben16 on Jan 24, 2010 3:01 PM EST reply actions  

that’s right, get gonchar out of there, pushing powe into johnson. lame.

"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."

by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 3:01 PM EST reply actions  

Hooking on Pittsburgh?

Chance right here guys, don’t fuck it up.

by Boog609 on Jan 24, 2010 3:01 PM EST reply actions  

Dun nuh nuh nuh Inspector Gadget

TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 24, 2010 3:02 PM EST reply actions  

Game…set..blouses

TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 24, 2010 3:04 PM EST reply actions  

no, we get 10th place now

TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 24, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

gotta get a shot off boys

by ryan1 on Jan 24, 2010 3:04 PM EST reply actions  

Could Kimo have waited any longer to make a pass WTF.

by EREX21 on Jan 24, 2010 3:04 PM EST reply actions  

SHOOT THE DAMN PUCK!!!

Proudly supporting a Flyers team with "no honor".

by Justin F. on Jan 24, 2010 3:04 PM EST reply actions  

WHAT THE FUCK DO I CARE IF HE’S A FUCKING FORMER WATERLOU BLACKHAWK

by orangeandblack20 on Jan 24, 2010 3:04 PM EST reply actions  

fucking disappointing

by ryan1 on Jan 24, 2010 3:05 PM EST reply actions  

story of our post-lockout history against the pens

"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."

by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Time for the jets – colts.

by thwalls on Jan 24, 2010 3:06 PM EST reply actions  

Wow, lays on the puck, what a fucking bullshit cocksucking move.

Cue Penfags telling us how they have the best hockey team ever, despite only being fans of their team since, what, 2005?

by Boog609 on Jan 24, 2010 3:06 PM EST reply actions  

i don’t think we need to start another flame war type thread with that bandwagon fan noise. the point is we played a great game, and lost it on stupidity at the end of the game. what a horrible way to lose.

"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."

by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

your being too optimistic, most of them probably became fans back in april 2009.

by edbro on Jan 24, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Eh, not the way I wanted to start the day.

by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 24, 2010 3:06 PM EST reply actions  

58 minutes of good hockey just to blow it in the last 2. come on.

by ryan1 on Jan 24, 2010 3:07 PM EST reply actions  

they played like shit in the 2nd period, only emery kept them in it. they hardly played 58 minutes of “good” hockey

by edbro on Jan 24, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

58 minutes of not losing i should say

by ryan1 on Jan 24, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah i hear you there, they stayed in it so long it sucks to just lose it like that in the end

by edbro on Jan 24, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Good teams find a way to win. We are STILL not there yet. Maybe next year.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Jan 24, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

That Kimmo Penalty shouldn’t be a penalty. There should be discretion. That was an offensive aggressive dump and shouldn’t be penalized for it.

by orangeandblack20 on Jan 24, 2010 3:08 PM EST reply actions  

or kimo shouldn’t send it into the stands when hes in his zone… rules are rules kimo just made a stupid play and cost the flyers atleast 1 point

by edbro on Jan 24, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

We didn’t lose because of that. We lost because we were 1-9 on the Power Play.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Jan 24, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

and so many opportunities in non pp stituations

by j reed on Jan 24, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

No we absolutely lost because of that. This game was playoff style hockey- lots of defense and good goaltending. Sometimes you get embroiled in tight games like this where neither team can capitalize on their chances, and in games like that, it’s mistake-free hockey and defense that carries the day. That was a backbreaking mistake at the worst possible time. If we can’t lock it down in the regular season against the Pens, what hope do we have against any team in the playoffs?

"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."

by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean it seems unfair to put an entire game on one play, but sometimes games definitely swing on a single play. Look at the Hartnell kicking the puck in the net thing against Washington. And when that one play comes in the last three minutes of a 1-1 game, well that makes it pretty easy to put it all on that one play.

That’s not to say you can ignore the offensive ineptitude today, just that games like that are going to happen against good teams sometimes, and you have to find a way to win, not give the thing away at the 57 minute mark.

"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."

by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

This sucks.

Another season series lost to Pittsburgh, who is better than we are in every way. It sucks being inadequate.

For whatever reason, we cannot win games when tied after two periods. Couple that with the fact that we still lose to good teams even when we show up, and one cannot help but think that making the playoffs would mean nothing more than us being able to say, “Hey, we made the playoffs.”

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Jan 24, 2010 3:10 PM EST reply actions  

they have a case of the yips

by j reed on Jan 24, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I love Richie and will defend him to the death, but I’m starting to think Pronger should be given the C. Look at the effect it’s had on Patrick Marleau in SJ. The Sharks are doing great and he is leading the league in goals.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Jan 24, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s not to knock Richards, but only to improve the team. Richards can re-assume the C in a couple of years when he’s ready. Make him an A for now.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Jan 24, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

That only causes a controversy. We’ve been playing good hockey. We get a few days off then three more home games. We’ll be fine.

by orangeandblack20 on Jan 24, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I was thinking the team should do this after we lose in the first round to whomever this spring.

“We’ll be fine” insofar as “We’ll likely make the playoffs if we keep playing the way we have been.” We’ll be anything BUT fine if/when we get there.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Jan 24, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

It might cause enough short term harm to have us fall out of the playoffs, though. They’re just finding the balance, we shouldn’t shake it up now. The offseason would be a different story

by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 24, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

See my above comment. I should have clarified WHEN the team should make the change.

Doing it right now would do much more harm than good, I agree.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Jan 24, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

i don’t know enough about how the captain dynamic works in hockey but I can say the defensive has improved but the offensive is too streaky.

by j reed on Jan 24, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

thats the “defense has improved but the offense is too streaky”

by j reed on Jan 24, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

True. That’s probably true with most teams though. The best teams are the ones who are the best defensively and least streaky offensively.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Jan 24, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Any hockey stats. junkies around…baseball is my sabermetric poison….don’t have time to do it with hockey. I’d like to see if that can be quantified

by j reed on Jan 24, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m sure it’s doable. Look at teams’ came logs. If they win both high-scoring and low-scoring games fairly consistently, that’s a point of entry right there.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Jan 24, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

thanks…baseball is so measurable but 200lbs plus men, most of who are descendents of the Vikings and are missing a chromosome, traveling at high speed on a near frictionless surface with lumber they use to launch a flat rubber disk at speeds over 100 mph is exactly a statistican’s wet dream.

by j reed on Jan 24, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

that’s
“isn’t exactly a statistican’s wet dream”

by j reed on Jan 24, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Did we all forget that Richie scored a goal that was negated by Gagne and Malkin’s hug fest? Result of the game could have been very different and I don’t think anyone would be saying a word about Richie if that were the case.

by EREX21 on Jan 24, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

That play turned the game around. I had a bad feeling when that happened.

I’m not trying to channel Mario here, but the team still cannot win “measuring stick” games consistently. Usually they try hard but don’t deliver the results, which is exactly what Richards does in these games.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Jan 24, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Before Richards was the captain, he was the one who showed up the MOST for these types of games. It’s not that he doesn’t show up now because he does. He can’t get it done.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Jan 24, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re assuming Mario would have considered a win here meaningful. Since Brent Johnson was in goal, I’m sure he expected a win.

Broad Street Hockey - Makin' it look mean since 1967.

by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 24, 2010 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, i mean, the spirit of this chat is about his leadership, not his scoring touch. I feel like the captaincy debate isn’t going anywhere, regardless of how many he puts in the back of the net.

"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."

by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

screw all of you that are bitchin about richie, hes the captain and hell be here a long time so quit complaining, damn

by sjuhawks42 on Jan 24, 2010 3:52 PM EST reply actions  

No one wants him to go anywhere. There’s just an argument to be made about a near 20 year veteran like Pronger having more leadership experience than Richards. That’s all.

"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."

by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

So, yesterday we won a game we should have lost, and today we lost a game we should have won. Still have a lot of time left to gain momentum before the playoffs. We’re abolsutely not where we want to be, however we’re not out of the playoff picture. And also, in a playoff series you don’t have to be consistent. You just have to win 4 out of 7 measuring stick games. The question we ask ourselves is that will we be able to win 4 games in a series

TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 24, 2010 3:53 PM EST reply actions  

At this rate, no. No we won’t.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Jan 24, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

well cheer up. We still have 2 months to become that team that will

TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 24, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

The bad habits are already in place, and they have been since 2007. They’re not going away in two months, sorry.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Jan 24, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

i do forsee 1-2 playoff series victories happening actually. Not basing this off of any statistics, but hell i do enjoy being optimistic

TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 24, 2010 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Gagne has somehow become one of my most hated flyers. Him and coburn just find ways to piss me off every game.

"NO HONOR"

by JpH89 on Jan 24, 2010 3:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

couburn pisses everyone off cause hes garbage

by sjuhawks42 on Jan 24, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

does the rest of the league know this….or is there a team with a penchant for making bad personnel decisions that would trade him and maybe gagne for decent shooter

by j reed on Jan 24, 2010 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Well losing sucks but im glad that the Flyers didnt come out tired. That was their third game in four days and the Pens hadn’t played since Thursday.

by Ben16 on Jan 24, 2010 4:44 PM EST reply actions  

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