Game 51, Preview and Game Thread: Pittsburgh Penguins at Philadelphia Flyers
Pittsburgh Penguins at Philadelphia Flyers, Jan 24, 2010 12:30 PM EST
#4 Pittsburgh Penguins (31-20-1, 63 pts) at #6 Philadelphia Flyers (26-21-3, 55 pts)
Wachovia Center - 12:30 PM ET - Philadelphia, PA
TV: NBC HD, TSN 2, RIS
Radio: 610 WIP
This is the open game thread.
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Alright, so get this. With a win in regulation today, the Flyers will have 57 points through 51 games. The Pittsburgh Penguins will have 63 points through 53 games. With wins in those two games in hand, the Flyers could sit just two points behind their currently 4th-seeded cross-state rivals.
This would've been a pipe dream oh, a month ago, but the Flyers solid 30 days of good hockey seem to be finally paying off. Of course, they can't let off the gas pedal any time soon and they must continue piling up points, as any tiny losing spell could push them dangerously off the playoff cliff.
And it's not like it gets easy with Pittsburgh coming in to town today. We know all about that team from across the state and we're more than aware that they're really good at hockey. What you may not know, however, is that they're apparently not so great when they play in afternoon contests. Frank from Pensburgh...
Of course, it always seems like the Penguins play subpar hockey during afternoon games. This season the Pens have only played two games before 7pm, at 3:00 and 5:00 during their swing through Florida earlier this month, and took a loss in each outing. Last season's afternoon record, as in games before 7pm, was 6-10-1 (minus the 2:30pm start in Stockholm which was technically not an afternoon start). Three of those were against the Flyers, in which Philly edged them out slightly with a 2-1 record.
Should that be a reason for optimism today? Consider that last time these teams played on NBC in the afternoon, the Flyers blew a three goal lead and their season in Game 6 last year.
It's likely, although it hasn't been announced officially, that Ray Emery will get another go today in the Philadelphia crease. He'll surely be challenged a lot more than he has been the last few games. Marc-Andre Fleury will likely be back in action on the Pittsburgh side for the first time since breaking a finger on January 14. That's certainly a welcome sight for them, as the Pens have allowed 16 goals in their three games without their star goaltender.
Max Talbot is out with a case of the Philadelphia flu.
It's a six game home winning streak on the line today in South Philadelphia for the orange and black. They might've had trouble getting up for yesterday's tilt with Carolina, but you can be sure that won't be the case today. Cue up the organ, because Crosby sucks... right?
After the jump, questions to answer, the starting lineups and goaltenders, and our in-game discussion.
One more quick note. The Pittsburgh media is also a joke. From today's Pittsburgh Tribune-Review...
Matt Cooke fought Atlanta star Ilya Kovalchuk — not exactly the confrontational type — earlier this season. The circumstances in that altercation, though, were completely different. Kovalchuk actually sought out Cooke and dropped his gloves first, whereas Carcillo appeared to make something of a calculated effort to single out Gaborik.
Commence laughter... now. Oh, and **** Pittsburgh.
Flyers Line Combinations
Hartnell - Carter - Briere
Gagne - Richards - Powe
JVR - Giroux - Asham
Carcillo - Betts - Laperriere
Carle - Pronger
Coburn - Timonen
Tollefsen - Bartulis
Pittsburgh Line Combinations
Dupuis - Crosby - Guerin
Fedotenko - Malkin - Johnson
Cooke - Staal - Kennedy
Rupp - Adams - Godard
Gonchar - Orpik
McKee - Goligoski
Eaton - Letang
Starting Goaltenders
Questions To Answer
- Will Fleury be shaky in goal today, his first game in over a week? Can the Flyers pepper him with shots and make him work early?
- Mike Richards was invisible yesterday. Can he not be so invisible today, and maybe even pick up his 100th NHL goal?
- How much ice time will Eric Godard see today?
- Can Chris Pronger keep his four game point streak in tact?
- Funniest sign in the building today?
Join the ever lovable NBC crew as they call today's game. Or, hit the mute button and try to sync up 610 WIP with the moving pictures. As always, join us here for the conversation, and LET'S GO FLYERS!
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Man, you’re relentless.
Quoting Laviolette yesterday…
"I don’t know if we got caught a little bit in the drop of emotion from that Ranger game, and looking forward to that Pittsburgh game," he said. "I give the guys credit because it wasn’t our best game and we walked away with points, and that’s the most important thing."
If they aren’t up for the game today, maybe I’ll join your crusade. Don’t count on it though.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 24, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
Do Penguins fans seriously call Letang “Tangers”? If so thats hilarious. I was unaware Letang was a character on the hit broadway show “Cats”.
Mmmm mmmmm mmmm mmmmm good! Tasty!
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by Mike B on D on Jan 24, 2010 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
So let me get this straight…Kovi can drop the gloves with Cooke and its ok, Nash can drop the gloves with Shultz(yesterday) and it’s ok. But when Carcillo drops the gloves with Gaborik, he is gutless, has no honor and pretty much the worst human being on earth…did I get that right?
Glad to see the media isn’t biased or anything.
My only fear, or rather concern is that the next time the Flyers and Rangers play, one of their guys actually does try and take a run at someone all because they are too stupid to watch the tape and see in plain view how incredibly misguided and ridiculous they are.
Maybe I’m still getting sleep out of my eyes, but the Penguins are 15-27-7? Crosby DOES suck.
"So basically, the Stats make no sense whatsoever."
Fixed.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 24, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
I sometimes wish we could chant something else besides “Crosby Sucks” when the organ pipes blow.
19,000+ chanting “Malkins Ugly” would certainly catch the pens off guard
how about...
DA DA dah DA NBC SUCKS!
DA DA dah DA NBC SUCKS!
you callin me a know-nothin? sir, i'll have you know i happen to know very little.
by hockey punk on Jan 24, 2010 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
A while back, I was in Long Island and exchanged friendly razzing with a long time Isles fan there. It was all in good fun and we both gave as good as we got. Suddenly that chicken song comes on and they yell “The RANGERS SUCK!” No matter who they play. We bonded after that. Bad team, great crowd.
Maybe the key is to ignore Crosby all together? I like the NBC sucks chant. Make it just like any other game rather than falling prey to the NHL’s Crosby hype brigade. Or give the players something to laugh at . Like maybea packed house waving giant foam fingers with bite marks on it labeled with Letang’s number.
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by Mike B on D on Jan 24, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
See honestly I wish the fans would actually chant things that are a bit classless. I mean, I dislike Crosby as much as the next Flyers fan but sometimes it gets annoying. During the World Series this past year the Anti Yanks chants were the worse. Profanity laced. I don’t know, maybe I am the only one that gets annoyed by it but that’s just how I am.
no, i completely hate the ‘crosby sucks’ chant and any sorta harsh profanity at the game also, especially since there’s tons of kids there. but at some point it needs to register to the people screaming CROSBY SUCKS at the top of your lungs makes em look so stupid. not only are they fuelling his fire, but you could be screaming LETS GO FLYERS instead. or something really unusual and funny.
you callin me a know-nothin? sir, i'll have you know i happen to know very little.
Did anyone see this after yesterday’s game:
In their last 15 games, the Betts (Carcillo, Lappy) line has scored 10 even strength goals. Carter line has 10 and the Richards line has 8.
From John Boruk’s Twitter.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 24, 2010 12:13 PM EST reply actions
What I’m really enjoying is NBC’s pregame coverage. Tell me more about how to blend fruits and vegetables, Montel!
"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."
I especially liked how quick they were to recap all of the hockey games.
“He scored, he scored and the final was….”
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yeah I didn’t think he would today. He might come back from that broken finger tomorrow against the Rangers.
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More accurately Max Talbot is out with a case of low self esteem. He hasn’t been very productive so far this year and he knows it
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anyone have a live stream URL for this game?
NHL gamecenter is blacked out b/c of the game being on NBC
by SanDiegoScraps on Jan 24, 2010 12:41 PM EST reply actions
I’d like to think we won’t see a high-scoring game, but weirder things have happened
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Btw, I hope your MB buddies are more logical than the Rangers blog. Those guys were spewing stupid on Thursday.
I’d assume “message board,” but I’ll take the risk and say he meant “Masturbating Bear.”
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This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
hah good ol Conan reference
I’d like to think most of the readers over at Pensburgh don’t spew stupid, but i guess that’s up for interpretation based on different fan bases
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That’s what they’re sayin. “Head trauma” of sorts.
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we lit up whoever brought the puck off sides
by Prometheus74 on Jan 24, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
Carter is red hot.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 24, 2010 12:45 PM EST reply actions
Why of all people did they Mic up Danny C?
by orangeandblack20 on Jan 24, 2010 12:48 PM EST reply actions
What a fucking joke of a call.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 24, 2010 12:51 PM EST reply actions
Yeah
And it was a fucking cross check.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 24, 2010 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
Oof. He was pushed into the goalie.
And am I the only one that thinks that Johnson had a nice bit of acting there?
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I think last year in the playoffs the Pens proved that they all know when to go down to draw calls. See: Jordan Staal. He might be the strongest skater they have, but if he looks down and sees a stick in his skates, he’ll pass the puck and take the dive. I’ve seen him do it a bunch of times. It’s painful.
"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."
If power plays were graded based on passing the Penguins would be #1. But since it’s not, that’s why they are ranked in the bottom 5
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LOL and an Oscar to Prongs. No way he fell that easily he is a tank.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 24, 2010 12:54 PM EST reply actions
No wonder...
People dive so much. 3 of the 4 Penalties today have been embellished a bit. On both sides.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 24, 2010 12:57 PM EST reply actions
Richie has been one of our worst players the last 10 games. Useless right now.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 24, 2010 12:58 PM EST reply actions
Too many calls. This is going to be a long game at this rate
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Pretty
Hartnell’s Goalie interference and the cross check on Pronger were horribly officiated.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 24, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think Prong’s would have flopped if we weren’t short handed and in need of a make up
by orangeandblack20 on Jan 24, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
and I think the Johnson interference call was a make up as well.
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I hope the fans at the game keep the crosby sux chant to a minimum. It doesnt do anything but make him play better.
Hey, maybe he heard me?
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 24, 2010 1:04 PM EST reply actions
that is some bs right there...
damn, it was a pretty shot by Richie…
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This is starting to feel like a normal bs Pitt-Philly game at this point…
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by Jordan Ellel on Jan 24, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
This is just friggin ridiculous….why are the ref’s breaking up a hug feast and thus disallowing a goal…? Why not wait until the gloves are dropped?
This game has been filled with absolute shit ref jobs. A guy can get hit in the face with the pug and lay on the ice covering his face but the play will go on…two guys are wrapped up and suddenly a guy 60 feet away is making calls? Ridiculous.
Screw that we are outplaying them. All we need is 2= minutes of hockey and our tempo will put another in the net
by Prometheus74 on Jan 24, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
Refs ruinging this game. Too many PPs, absolutely no flow.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 24, 2010 1:13 PM EST reply actions
no kiddin. the penalties are pretty ridiculous
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Not a great one.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 24, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
There’s your fight. Can’t say I would’ve picked Letang as a combatant, but whatevs
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Ok see this is the bullshit I am talking about…throwing punches when a guy is pinned to the ice. Letang is garbage. Carbomb immediately stopped punching Gaborik when he went down and then you have this Letang jerk off throwing punches when Powe is on his back. But D.C is the one with no honor.
We got a PP….
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 24, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
20 pretty solid minutes of hockey. do we have the legs to put out the same effort in the 2nd and 3rd? time will tell
"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."
just about everything I’ve seen in venues dedicated to hockey that isn’t in NY, is basically calling NY whiners. Who cares its NBC. It’s getting a bit persecution complex on our part.
F.U. Milbury! He’s summarizing the New York media’s recap of that game on Thursday.
Ugh.
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There is no reason to even listen to the NBC intermission reports…
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i actually turned over to, of all things, bowling on ESPN. That’s what I think about NBC intermission reports. The idea of Millbury and McGuire sitting face to face arguing over something doesn’t appeal to me at all. Every since last year when they looked exceptionally stupid following an argument over fighting
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hehehe as an avid bowler i take offense to the notion that tuning in to bowling over something else is a slight on that something else! hmph! =p
"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."
heh rest assured I Wii bowl like crazy. That’s about it. A history of sprained wrists and what I believe to be the onset of carpal tunnel (insert masturbation joke here) makes it hard to bowl for real, although sometimes I deal with the pain and bowl a few frames.
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Yeah definitely not worth it with chronic wrist problems. I sprained my wrist mid-season last year and had to bowl through the pain for four months. It was not pleasant. I can only imagine bowling on that pain every time you throw the ball forever. No thank you.
"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."
Australian Open on ESPN2
Great mach with Roddick on
by Prometheus74 on Jan 24, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
that’s unbelieveable! now the fucking national tv outlets are bashing us for this carcillo/gaborik bullshit. my god am i tired of hearing about this- and once again the “licking my chops” quote is misquoted and taken out of context. fuck the national media bias a thousand times forever.
"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."
Not only was it taken out of context it was taken out of time…he said it after the game and yet somehow they make it sound like going into the game he said that he was licking his chops to fight Gabby. Who licks their chops to fight a guy with one previous fight in his career? It doesn’t even make sense. I wish Homer or someone would go on record and call the media out for their bullshit.
I liked that JJ and the guys at least had some things to say about it during last night’s game. But of course those words only go out to us. National media bias is what it is, and there’s really very little we can do about it. Also I didn’t even hear about Nash/Shultz until you posted it earlier. Where’s the outrage over that crap? It’s ridiculous.
"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."
That game yesterday did go out to CSN California, so at least they got to hear the truth.
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Nice. That’s something. Though I doubt how much the Sharks or Kings fanbase cares about us or our lack of honor.
"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."
I’m late on this, but Fear the Fin linked to Travis’s article on bias in their equivalent of our Morning Fly By, taking our side.
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 24, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
Face it our owner wants to make $$$ selling the flyers as the HHH of the NHL. I bet he is encouraging this crap to be disseminated throughout the media
by Prometheus74 on Jan 24, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
I just got back from the hardware store
cause I needed another spike to nail our other hand to the cross. we’re sounding like a a bunch of hockey martyrs?
Really? I think this is a pretty legitimate gripe we have here, and if the story won’t stop coming up, then why would we stop being upset about it?
"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."
and if, say, avery takes a run at one of our superstars or tries to force them into dropping the gloves because of all the bs surrounding this incident, you wouldn’t consider that detrimental to our ability to win games?
winning is always paramount, but that doesn’t mean this isn’t a story. and personally i’ve gotten pretty sick of defending the flyers against their reputation over the years. if you’re not a fan of the story then that’s fine, but that doesn’t mean you have to take shots at people who do care about it. It’s like the richards v media thing- i couldn’t possibly care less about something than i do about that, but it’s interesting to others who follow the flyers, so let them talk about it all they want. i’ll stay out of the discussion.
"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."
So glad I’m missing the NBC shit today. Lots of atmosphere in the building of course.
We had the leg up in the first but after the goal was waved off Pitt got some jump. We need to score on this early PP.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 24, 2010 1:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Lots of atmosphere in the building of course.
The Wachovia Center consistently rates as one of the toughest buildings to play in among the entire league. You folks do a helluva job in there.
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by Knee high to a duck on Jan 24, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
Nice play on the rush there.
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by Knee high to a duck on Jan 24, 2010 1:39 PM EST reply actions
This has to be the longest this game has one without a whistle, right?
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well he did get the dbl minors to negate our 2nd goal
by Prometheus74 on Jan 24, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
yeah he’s been on the ice to take away from the team this game. invisible would be in reference to his season, excluding the hat trick game.
"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."
A bilateral sportsman hernia could be the culprit esp. for a skater. It’s a tough injury to get over let alone when it occurs in two places. There’s usually some pre-existing weakness in the pelvic floor and other lower body musculature that’s behind the injury…hard to recover from the surgery and correct this pre-existing condition during the season.
oh yes his injury history precedes him. he hasn’t been the same player since bowmeester game him that concussion. but if he’s not healthy then he shouldn’t be playing. even if he feels “90%,” if he’s still basically rehabbing, then he probably shouldn’t be on the ice. the coaches in this town let their players get away with stuff like that far too often. see: lidge, brad and ibanez, raul and briere, daniel and westbrook, brian (although in his case he is literally always playing hurt, so i can sort of understand).
"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."
fair enough, but if it’s not injury that’s much worse.
"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."
He played well in the Caps game last week, it’s only really been the last couple of days he’s been off.
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 24, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
well, you know my feelings on the matter from that thread earlier in the week, but i feel like he’s been utterly invisible all season, and it’s just a case of people not noticing because Gagne’s a name, and a name that people like. like mcnabb can do no wrong because he’s mcnabb
"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."
every time he falls, it seems like the ice is going to break
by SanDiegoScraps on Jan 24, 2010 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
Yeesh. Need to create an opportunity with that much zone time.
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by Knee high to a duck on Jan 24, 2010 1:49 PM EST reply actions
Nice little shot from JVR there. Most of our defensemen would have had that shot blocked up high and it would have went the other way. Because JVR can actually place shots we got a decent scoring chance there.
"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."
Agreed, that was very well placed. One of the subtleties that wins games.
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by Knee high to a duck on Jan 24, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
The first seemed to drag on forever and the second is flying by. See what happens when you don’t call lame penalties, refs?
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 24, 2010 1:53 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Until that little scrum in front of the net, I was going to say that Emery looked great on rebounds and steering pucks into corners.
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by Knee high to a duck on Jan 24, 2010 1:56 PM EST reply actions
Good cycle and possession to keep the puck away from 87.
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by Knee high to a duck on Jan 24, 2010 1:57 PM EST reply actions
Watching us play the Pens reminds me of that scene in Old School where Will Ferrell goes “We’ve got to keep our composure!” and then he goes nuts.
gagne strikes again
"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."
by eeeeee on Jan 24, 2010 2:04 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
this intermission is pretty well timed for you bowling enthusiasts out there. the championship match should be starting after this commercial. ;)
"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."
and for you tennis enthusiasts, Roddick has just forced a 5th set
by Prometheus74 on Jan 24, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
Man that period was a yawner.
We definitely were outplayed. Hopefully they wake up during this PP to start.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 24, 2010 2:16 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I just got to turn the game on… Is Emery actually playing well enough to be keeping us in this game, or is the defense playing well too?
definitely a mix. the d has been pretty good, especially on the PK (although their one goal was PP, the play had been so choppy because of random penalty calls at that point, and it was like their fourth or sixth straight minute of PP time), and Emery has been pretty calm and cool, and his rebound control (which has been horrendous since coming back) has been pretty good throughout. He did get beat by a Crosby slapper on a breakaway, but the pipe came to his aid.
"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."
wow, two cross check penalties in one game- when’s the last time you saw that?
"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."
Briere and Gioux have been mixed up alllllll day, So have Coburn and Bartulis.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 24, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
I didn’t even catch what they called Batulis last time… but it wasnt the name of anybody on our team
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 24, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure if it was intentional but he clocked Hartnell in the head with his stick.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 24, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
I thought that’s what I saw. I guess Goddard will be out next shift?
by orangeandblack20 on Jan 24, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
Definitely not intentional.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 24, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
You can pay me via PayPal lol.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 24, 2010 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
I enjoyed that replay we got of the whole incident. I know I, for one, didn’t want to see what happened there.
"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."
Same. The Flyers are a much better team under Laviolette than they were under Stevens. And more disciplined as well.
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Peco
Let’s get one boys. Did Richie celebrate that non goal for a split second?
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 24, 2010 2:46 PM EST reply actions
stupid commercial. I’d rather watch Lappy try to talk.
by orangeandblack20 on Jan 24, 2010 2:46 PM EST reply actions
I’ve already seen it at least 3 times and I only turned the game on in the 2nd intermission
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 24, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
Callin it right now, he's gonna put one in

by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 24, 2010 2:48 PM EST reply actions
OKT was never even on the ice, and they thought Carle was him and even started talking about his history and Norway. These NBC guys are oblivious.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 24, 2010 2:53 PM EST reply actions
does anyone else find it bizarre that giroux (about as pure a playmaker as you can get) takes the mike knuble position (reserved for big guys who can take a beating and can’t skate or pass like knubes and leclair)? what’s laviolette’s thought process there? also, gagne needs to be taken off the PP
You gotta be kidding Kimmo.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 24, 2010 2:58 PM EST reply actions
There needs to be referee fucking discretion with that fucking bullshit call. Same with that broken stick slash bullshit.
by orangeandblack20 on Jan 24, 2010 3:01 PM EST reply actions
Dun nuh nuh nuh Inspector Gadget
TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 24, 2010 3:02 PM EST reply actions
Game…set..blouses
TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 24, 2010 3:04 PM EST reply actions
no, we get 10th place now
TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 24, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
WHAT THE FUCK DO I CARE IF HE’S A FUCKING FORMER WATERLOU BLACKHAWK
by orangeandblack20 on Jan 24, 2010 3:04 PM EST reply actions
Wow, lays on the puck, what a fucking bullshit cocksucking move.
Cue Penfags telling us how they have the best hockey team ever, despite only being fans of their team since, what, 2005?
they played like shit in the 2nd period, only emery kept them in it. they hardly played 58 minutes of “good” hockey
That Kimmo Penalty shouldn’t be a penalty. There should be discretion. That was an offensive aggressive dump and shouldn’t be penalized for it.
by orangeandblack20 on Jan 24, 2010 3:08 PM EST reply actions
or kimo shouldn’t send it into the stands when hes in his zone… rules are rules kimo just made a stupid play and cost the flyers atleast 1 point
We didn’t lose because of that. We lost because we were 1-9 on the Power Play.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
No we absolutely lost because of that. This game was playoff style hockey- lots of defense and good goaltending. Sometimes you get embroiled in tight games like this where neither team can capitalize on their chances, and in games like that, it’s mistake-free hockey and defense that carries the day. That was a backbreaking mistake at the worst possible time. If we can’t lock it down in the regular season against the Pens, what hope do we have against any team in the playoffs?
"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."
I mean it seems unfair to put an entire game on one play, but sometimes games definitely swing on a single play. Look at the Hartnell kicking the puck in the net thing against Washington. And when that one play comes in the last three minutes of a 1-1 game, well that makes it pretty easy to put it all on that one play.
That’s not to say you can ignore the offensive ineptitude today, just that games like that are going to happen against good teams sometimes, and you have to find a way to win, not give the thing away at the 57 minute mark.
"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."
This sucks.
Another season series lost to Pittsburgh, who is better than we are in every way. It sucks being inadequate.
For whatever reason, we cannot win games when tied after two periods. Couple that with the fact that we still lose to good teams even when we show up, and one cannot help but think that making the playoffs would mean nothing more than us being able to say, “Hey, we made the playoffs.”
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I love Richie and will defend him to the death, but I’m starting to think Pronger should be given the C. Look at the effect it’s had on Patrick Marleau in SJ. The Sharks are doing great and he is leading the league in goals.
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That’s not to knock Richards, but only to improve the team. Richards can re-assume the C in a couple of years when he’s ready. Make him an A for now.
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That only causes a controversy. We’ve been playing good hockey. We get a few days off then three more home games. We’ll be fine.
by orangeandblack20 on Jan 24, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
I was thinking the team should do this after we lose in the first round to whomever this spring.
“We’ll be fine” insofar as “We’ll likely make the playoffs if we keep playing the way we have been.” We’ll be anything BUT fine if/when we get there.
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It might cause enough short term harm to have us fall out of the playoffs, though. They’re just finding the balance, we shouldn’t shake it up now. The offseason would be a different story
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 24, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
i don’t know enough about how the captain dynamic works in hockey but I can say the defensive has improved but the offensive is too streaky.
True. That’s probably true with most teams though. The best teams are the ones who are the best defensively and least streaky offensively.
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Any hockey stats. junkies around…baseball is my sabermetric poison….don’t have time to do it with hockey. I’d like to see if that can be quantified
I’m sure it’s doable. Look at teams’ came logs. If they win both high-scoring and low-scoring games fairly consistently, that’s a point of entry right there.
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thanks…baseball is so measurable but 200lbs plus men, most of who are descendents of the Vikings and are missing a chromosome, traveling at high speed on a near frictionless surface with lumber they use to launch a flat rubber disk at speeds over 100 mph is exactly a statistican’s wet dream.
Did we all forget that Richie scored a goal that was negated by Gagne and Malkin’s hug fest? Result of the game could have been very different and I don’t think anyone would be saying a word about Richie if that were the case.
That play turned the game around. I had a bad feeling when that happened.
I’m not trying to channel Mario here, but the team still cannot win “measuring stick” games consistently. Usually they try hard but don’t deliver the results, which is exactly what Richards does in these games.
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You’re assuming Mario would have considered a win here meaningful. Since Brent Johnson was in goal, I’m sure he expected a win.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 24, 2010 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
screw all of you that are bitchin about richie, hes the captain and hell be here a long time so quit complaining, damn
So, yesterday we won a game we should have lost, and today we lost a game we should have won. Still have a lot of time left to gain momentum before the playoffs. We’re abolsutely not where we want to be, however we’re not out of the playoff picture. And also, in a playoff series you don’t have to be consistent. You just have to win 4 out of 7 measuring stick games. The question we ask ourselves is that will we be able to win 4 games in a series
TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 24, 2010 3:53 PM EST reply actions
well cheer up. We still have 2 months to become that team that will
TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 24, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
The bad habits are already in place, and they have been since 2007. They’re not going away in two months, sorry.
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i do forsee 1-2 playoff series victories happening actually. Not basing this off of any statistics, but hell i do enjoy being optimistic
TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 24, 2010 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
Gagne has somehow become one of my most hated flyers. Him and coburn just find ways to piss me off every game.
"NO HONOR"
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