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BSH Radio 3: Frank D Talks Flyers-Pens, Carcillo Beats Down Gaborik, New Defensemen?

On Tuesday evening, Ben, Geoff and I taped this weeks edition of Broad Street Hockey Radio.

The Recap

On this week's edition of Broad Street Hockey Radio, we jump in right off the bat and talk about Dan Carcillo's beatdown of Marian Gaborik last week. Should Gaborik have dropped the gloves with Carcillo? Should a teammate have stepped in? Was there a lack of honor in it, as John Tortorella said there was?

We then bring in Frank D from Pensburgh and fromtherink.com to talk all things Pittsburgh Penguins, mostly surrounding the game from this past weekend. He talks about goalie Brent Johnson. Is he really a decent goalie or did the Flyers just not get the job done against him on Sunday? What about the fledgling Pens power play? Are the Flyers even considered a threat to the Penguins anymore?

Moving on, we peer into the future and try to figure out what the Flyers may do at the trade deadline. Paul Holmgren has said he's looking for a defenseman, so who's available? Should the Flyers even do anything? Is trading for prospects instead of roster players a smarter idea? And what about this offseason? What's the plan there?

Much shorter show this week, but you'll have to deal. Thanks for listening as always, of course. 

Get the episode after the jump.

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Good show gents. Definite thanks to FrankD from Pensburgh for stopping by and giving us an outsiders look. The third defensive pairing debate is certainly and issue and with the Flyers cap situation, things don’t look promising. Homer had better have something up his sleeves, which at the same time, scares me half to death. We shall see . . .

by flyrsfrk05 on Jan 27, 2010 12:35 PM EST reply actions  

I do appreciate FrankD (as much as one can appreciate a Pens fan =p ), especially when he drops by and leaves comments here. He’s never afraid to defend his team, and his points are usually interesting, but he has a knack for just staying away from the cheap shot type comments hurled from us pained Flyers fans toward the team that has hurt us the most in recent years that would only start a painful argument and shouting match if he responded to them. I definitely appreciate that.

And for sure you can’t trade away a piece for draft picks in the middle of the season- that would absolutely be construed as giving up on the season. All you can do is hope that management can learn a lesson in the future, when our draft pick situation is closer to normal, that draft picks are more than just trade bait. I mean, look at the Devils, they manage to always be solid every year thanks mainly in part to (yes, the system and yes, Brodeur, but also…) no name call ups that seem to be able to step in and play at a high level. A good farm system can go a long way in any sport.

"He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."

by eeeeee on Jan 27, 2010 1:31 PM EST reply actions  

I’ll say it here: I’m personally (and pretty sure I can-but won’t- speak for Ben and Travis) really disappointed no one has left any messages yet. I think this feature could be hysterical. As an avid Preston and Steve listener, I can only hope this becomes our version of the Love You; Hate You Line.

Please make it happen so we don’t have to forge it just to make ourselves laugh.

Broad Street Hockey - Makin' it look mean since 1967.

by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2010 1:53 PM EST reply actions  

You don’t want me to call in when I’m pissed off. You really don’t.

Plus, you guys have gotten by best Flyer-related stories already. I’ve written most of them here, and I called you guys with the other one during the “Worst Flyer of the Decade” discussion. (For those who missed that episode, I ended up sitting next to Chris McAllister’s dad on a flight home. This was way back in 2001-02, when McAllister was on the team and his father was coming here to watch him play.)

I’ll participate if anything comes up, or if I write another song along the lines of “Forty-One Minutes of Effort Each Night.”

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Jan 27, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure I’d love to hear your pissed-off rant, if it’s anything like your free-associations.

Broad Street Hockey - Makin' it look mean since 1967.

by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

We want you to call in when you’re pissed off. We really do.

Broad Street Hockey - SB Nation's Philadelphia Flyers Blog. Makin' it look mean since 1967.

by Travis Hughes on Jan 27, 2010 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Well you’ll have to wait for Saturday at the earliest. I’m going to the game on Thursday.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Jan 27, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I would, but I hate my voice, and usually have nothing insightful to say.

Some think too much, then come too soon
I just curse the sun, so I can howl at the moon

by jello44 on Jan 27, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks again for having me on to chat it up a bit. Definitely can’t turn down the opportunity to talk about hockey, Flyers fans or not. ;-)

Follow the Penguins on SBN @ Pensburgh.com and twitter.

by FrankD on Jan 27, 2010 2:37 PM EST reply actions  

I’ll have to check out the show so I can put a voice to the avatar.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Jan 27, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

what? A picture of a Penguins logo over a digitally enhanced Stanley Cup doesn’t provide enough of an idea? ;-)

Follow the Penguins on SBN @ Pensburgh.com and twitter.

by FrankD on Jan 27, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

You sound like a 36-pound metal penguin?

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Jan 27, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Now that’s something I’d love to hear

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by FrankD on Jan 27, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

All I have to say is thank God for this place (BSH, I mean). Every other forum for hockey (csnphilly.com, philly.com, ESPN and others) just has too many commenters that fall into that station-that-shall-remain-namelss call-in radio mentality. I am so sick to death of hearing about how Briere should be willing to remove his NTC because he is killing the team. Talk about not seeing the forest for the trees. Briere is not the problem. You want to say that cap mgmt is an issue, be my guest. Blue line depth? Absolutely. Hey, if you want to question the captain’s leadership, I can even understand that.

So, thank God the people here understand. That’s all I’m saying.

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko

by doubleh on Jan 27, 2010 3:45 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

haha, I just read a story on CSNPhilly about Danny Syvret (It will be in tomorrow’s Fly-By) and the first comment was how Briere and Gagne should both waive their NTC. How is that even relevant? Oh, we need those $11+ million to go out and acquire a 6th defenseman. Right…

Broad Street Hockey - Makin' it look mean since 1967.

by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s where my rant originated—from that very story. But it’s the first comment for every single Flyers story regardless of what’s being covered. Yes, a team that’s based on offense should get rid of one of its best scorers. Brilliant!

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko

by doubleh on Jan 27, 2010 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

besides you’d be asking a guy to de-value himself…He’s not the CEO of AIG. Also NTC’s, aside from job security are nice for athletes with families….having to move alot is is stressful for families even for those with money. NTC’s… do I like them, no….but unless there’s evidence that the guy’ s performance has been adversely affected by spending every night doing jello shots of the stomach of someone whose name ends in an “i” dotted with a bubbly heart, then I say he should drop it only if everyone else who has one does.

by j reed on Jan 27, 2010 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll call in when I’m wasted this weekend and MarioD bitches about something Flyers related after a win

TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jan 27, 2010 11:30 PM EST reply actions  

I was taught

If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all.

by boknows71 on Jan 28, 2010 11:35 AM EST reply actions  

Where’s the fun there?

Broad Street Hockey - SB Nation's Philadelphia Flyers Blog. Makin' it look mean since 1967.

by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I was taught

If you have nothing nice to say, come sit by me when you say it

"When you make your final stand
I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"

by The Dark on Jan 28, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  


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