Game 52, Preview and Game Thread: Atlanta Thrashers at Philadelphia Flyers
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#11 Atlanta Thrashers (23-21-8, 54 pts) at #6 Philadelphia Flyers (26-22-3, 55 pts)
Wachovia Center - 7:00 PM ET - Philadelphia, PA
TV: CSN Philly HD, SportSouth, Yahoo! Online
Radio: 610 WIP, XM 204
This is the open game thread.
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Sixth place.
Believe it or not, the Flyers are still there. After a loss to the Penguins in their last game four days ago, we mentioned it would take a minor miracle to be in the same spot come tonight.
That minor miracle has occurred. The Bruins haven't played. The Isles lost once. The Rangers and Habs each lost twice. But on the flip side, three Southern teams have climbed closer, turning the Eastern Conference playoff race into a giant cluster --, you get it.
The Thrashers are one of those teams. Beating the Ducks on Tuesday night gave them 54 points, and while they sit all the way down in 11th place right now, they could climb all the way up to sixth before the end of the night with a win in South Philly tonight.
Despite looking at the standings and finding reasons to believe Atlanta may be a buyer at the trade deadline, the big story down there is that it seems apparent that Ilya Kovalchuk is on his way out. It was reported today by Kevin Allen of USA Today that the Flyers cannot be ruled out of the sweepstakes for the all-star dream player, but as we decided earlier this month as a community here, they simply can't afford the guy without losing major pieces of the team that already exist.
Still, the rumors will persist, and when Don Waddell and Paul Holmgren have a meaningless conversation tonight as they no doubt will, it'll be spun into a meeting discussing Kovy, despite the fact that if they're talking about any player movement, it'll probably be an Atlanta defenseman.
Meanwhile, the bigger story downstairs should be how the Flyers will stop the guy. They were successful in doing so last time these teams met, a 1-0 win by the Thrashers back on November 28. It'll once again be the task of Matt Carle and Chris Pronger to stop him once more. Kimmo Timonen reportedly will see time against Kovalchuk and linemates Nik Antropov and Bryan Little as well.
The Flyers will have to do a better job tonight of executing on their opportunities, something they didn't do Sunday against the Penguins. Ray Emery gets the start against Johan Hedberg.
After the jump, line combinations, stats on those starting goaltenders, questions to answer, and our in-game discussion.
Flyers Line Combinations - no reported changes
Hartnell - Carter - Briere
Gagne - Richards - Powe
JVR - Giroux - Asham
Carcillo - Betts - Laperriere
Carle - Pronger
Coburn - Timonen
Tollefsen - Bartulis
Thrashers Line Combinations
Ilya Kovalchuk - Nik Antropov - Bryan Little
Todd White - Rich Peverley - Maxim Afinogenov
Evander Kane - Jim Slater - Colby Armstrong
Eric Boulton - Marty Reasoner - Chris Thorburn
Zach Bogosian - Ron Hainsey
Tobias Enstrom - Pavel Kubina
Boris Valabik - Anssi Salmela
Starting Goaltenders
Questions To Answer
- Can the Flyers effectively shut down Kovalchuk?
- How does the power play fare tonight after it being a focus in practice on Monday?
- The Thrashers can be a streaky team, just as the Flyers can. Does either team seem to mail it in at any point during the game tonight?
- Will the Flyers be in sixth place come the end of the night?
CSN: watch. WIP: listen. BSH: talk. LET'S GO FLYERS!
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First post here, really enjoy the site!
One thing this didn’t mention when mentioning sixth place, is that the Thrashers are sixth place in the league in goals scored. This can be a very dangerous offense, like you mentioned, when it’s on.
Going to be hard watching Kovalchuk too. Always been a fan of his since the 01 draft and it’s rough thinking the Flyers are in a situation where it’s very very very unlikely it will get him. Not saying he’s desperately needed/ that another forward is the top priority, but it’s something I’m upset about. A scary threat like him could be what this team needs to get to the finals.
Obviously every game is important, but none more so than now with this huge logjam going on. This game is real big for the Flyers and it’s going to sting hard if it comes away with no points come 9:30 or so tonight.
Plus, keep an eye on Colby Armstrong. Always thought that guy is awesome too and would make for a wonderful Flyer.
Agreed on Kovy, but we just don’t have the money/assets to fit him in the fold. I’d be afraid of losing what we’d have to give up to get him, too.
Welcome to the site!
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
I actually was going to say cluster****, but you know. Front page and everything.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
Streams for Tonight
VexCast (only viewable in IE)
http://www.vexcast.com/play.action?channel_id=707
KiloNet (uses WebSOP)
Also, kind of a side note. We’re opening up a BSH store. If you guys have any ideas for t-shirts or anything, let us know.
And if you have graphic design skills, shoot me an email.
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A few times. Not many though
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 7:05 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks. I honestly couldn’t remember if they had. I love their current home jerseys but I do miss the blacks ones. I feel like they should wear them for like weekend home games or something like that.
I can’t stand the blacks. Or the white ones for that matter. I hate those designs.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t care for the design so much but the color black on a jersey, with that logo looks good. Or can look good if done well. I am looking forward to them switching to their winter classic jerseys as their full time road unis.
Yeah, definitely.
I guess I wouldn’t mind seeing the blacks as an alternate, or a black jersey with the 70s design, even.
It’s just boring to me. Every team has black, ya know?
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
I always liked the white ones better than the blacks. But yeah, I like the Winter Classic a lot better.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
I’d much rather they we weren’t wearing the blacks tonight, our blacks against their whites is creating a particularly drab effect…
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 28, 2010 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed. Besides our orange uniforms >>>>>>>>> our blacks.
Proudly supporting a Flyers team with "no honor".
Those stupid blues? Ugh, those things suck.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
Blues are their home, reds are their alternate.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, alright. I kinda like the red ones.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
Really? You might be the first person ever that I have seen admit that. Good for you. Way to be different.
I try.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not completely anti-black, but I agree it’s not my preference. I have a black jersey my parents bought me the very first year the blacks came out, and since it was my first jersey of my own it prevents me from actually hating them.
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 28, 2010 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
I have an old Gagne and an old Roenick in black, but I never wear them.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
My fiance actually wears the one my parents bought me, which I think is hilarious. It was like a tent on me the day they bought it, why they bought an adult medium instead of a kids size is beyond me. I have an orange Gagne one I wear now, but it’s not the newest orange one.
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 28, 2010 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
The alternate orange, then?
I have one of those too — Tony Amonte, you kiddin me?
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
It was the first orange one after they retreated from those weird 3D logo looking ones. I have one of those two that was given to me.
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 28, 2010 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
Are the new ones very expensive in USD? I have a old black one that I’m sure is counterfeit but I am thinking about getting an orange one. NHL shop doesn’t ship to NZ as far as I can tell
http://www.jersey101.com/en/index.asp
Check that site out. I’ve never bought one from there but my friends swear by them.
From Hong Kong, I believe. Totally your neck of the woods… haha
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
My friends and I have ordered NFL and NHL jerseys from Jersey101.
We have compared them to the real deal and think they are great for the money.
Eh, both of those sites don’t carry kids sizes. So much for my hopes of a newer jersey on the cheap.
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 28, 2010 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure if I want Pitt or Ottawa to win tonight…
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You never want Pittsburgh to win.
Some think too much, then come too soon
I just curse the sun, so I can howl at the moon
Right. Sorry.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
They were as of Sunday, actually.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
That camera angle rocked right there on that PP.
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I love the behind the net angle when on the PP. It looks great in HD (what doesn’t?).
I wish they’d use it for the shoot out too. They sometimes use the camera angle that looks like it’s on the ice and you can’t see if the puck when in. Irritates me every time they do it!
That’s a great idea. I never even thought of that.
Also, if they had a camera on the ice that followed the player (a la NHL 09/10), or a suspended camera over the ice like they do in football.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
Suspended camera would be awesome.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
do teams have cameras positioned like that for their own videos?…I’d imagine a birdeye’s view would help coaches with strategy. It’s so hard to tell how the entire play unfolds on the typical TV view….
I think one exists but it’s way up in the rafters. Probably a bad look.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
NHL Gamecenter is AMAZING.
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It was the other night. The NHL gave out free copies to bloggers and media people to review it, though.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think so. I’m not totally sure though.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
Just curious…I believe Center Ice is like $199. Now Game Center has the advantage of being able to watch games on the laptop when you are away…except the Flyers would still be blacked out…for most of us anyway. Which kind of blows. It would be great to be able to watch the Flyers when I go on bu
I think it blocks out the games whereever you are actually located, judging by the IP address.
When I went to school in CT, I’d get Phillies games on MLB.tv up there but not the Yanks, Mets, or Sox. When I would come home, they’d be blacked out.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
I’m almost positive it isn’t.
MLB.tv definitely isn’t, like I said.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
You can also watch four games at once, which is pretty darn cool.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
$199!…is their anything that’s not expensive in hockey….I think hockey is latin for “black market organ donation” because have to cough up a kidney to be afford to it…i’m still miffed that i never got to play as a kid. And they didn’t have roller blades when I was a kid….so it was street hockey with that orange semi-soft puck that never slide anywhere, or that dumb semi deflated blue ball and roller skates….lame.
Yeah, I had it last year before FIOS got center ice in my area. I may get rid of cable and go back to Gamecenter cause Fios doesn’t get all HD feeds so the quality is like watching it on my computer anyway.
And you could always hook the computer up to the TV and voila, HD feeds
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, when I move outta the Philly area in about 2 years, I don’t want to pay for cable. No reason. I’d rather pay for MLB.tv and Game Center
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
CAR 1, NYI 0
PIT 1, OTT 0
LA 0, CBJ 0
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Make that PIT 1, OTT 1
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
Great backcheck by Bartulis, and Emery once again can’t control the rebound.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 7:27 PM EST reply actions
Sens score again, 2-1 over Pens
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It’s always nice to see the Pens get beat, but it’s reached the point where i don’t think I can root for anyone else in east except maybe Carolina right now.
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 28, 2010 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed. Toronto would be the only other but um, they’re Toronto.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
I can’t root for the Maple Leafs. I just… can’t. I can’t root for any team in Toronto really, especially the Blue Jays.
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 28, 2010 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
I can root for Hallday if he’s playing for us, but I couldn’t root for him as Jay. I saw him get blown up by the Red Sox over the summer; I was even in Toronto and just couldn’t bring myself to root for the home team.
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 28, 2010 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
I will root for Toronto only because I do not want Boston who gets their 1st round pick to reap the rewards. Id be happy if they just miss they playoffs by a point
by Prometheus74 on Jan 28, 2010 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
You know for all the talk about college players having to get adjusted to a full NHL season, now that were in the 50+ game mark I’d JVR has been real good. All things considered, maybe it’s a good thing they never sent him down.
Blasphemy!
Except I agree. He’s really thriving under Laviolette. I’m sure playing with Giroux helps too.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
I love that too. Let them get used to playing with each other. For how excited I was when Richards and Carter made them team years ago, I’m equally as excited in the prospect of JVR and Giroux. Don’t think they’ll be huge superstars, but in terms of a core of guys, they’re just as important as anyone.
And Hartnell misses a huge one. He’ll get it back.
Without taking possible trades into account, I’m not sure who else we have in the system that would have managed 30 points at this stage in the season besides JVR.
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 28, 2010 7:41 PM EST up reply actions
It’s pretty clear there’s only two players you could even debate – Matsumoto and Legein. And that doesn’t even mean they could.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
Oh man Hartnell.
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You just knew Atlanta would score. Just knew it.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 7:43 PM EST reply actions
Yes you did.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
What a bad turnaround. Atlanta scores.
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Second time in the last 17 or 18 that we haven’t scored first.
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Alright so I just clicked over to the Pens game. Question: did the 2009 Phillies broadcasts say “World Champion Phillies baseball brought to you buy…. TOYOTA!” Because the Pens broadcast does. Seems a little low to flaunt a previous seasons championship like that, or am I nitpicking?
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Not exactly like that, but CSN ran a lot of “the home of the World Champion Philadelphia Phillies” commercials.
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 28, 2010 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
The Union will have their games on 6ABC this season. That organization continues to impress me every day.
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Is there still a danger of a lockout or did the league get past that?
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 28, 2010 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
still a possibility but the union seems to think the players will give in. And I bet they will…they don’t make enough to take time off.
The union, haha.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
I hadn’t even heard about it.
http://blog.seattlepi.com/sounders/archives/192677.asp
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve got a coworker who is so into soccer he’s a part owner of a team in England, so there isn’t much I don’t hear about.
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 28, 2010 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
Wonderful! This is probably the best news I have heard all year!
by Mitchell Green on Jan 28, 2010 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
They are quickly rivaling the Phillies for the title of Philly team with the best Front Office……and they have not even played a game yet!
Proudly supporting a Flyers team with "no honor".
If you told me five years ago the Phillies had the best front office in the city…
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
then you would have realized 5 years sooner than most of us that the Eagles F.O is an absolute joke.
hah, touche.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
They are getting JP Dellacamera to call the games too. He use to do the Thrashers games and I think he was on Versus too. He’s pretty good from what I can remember.
Yeah, he does soccer on ESPN and he did the WJC this year on NHL Network. He rocks.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
I'm extremely pumped for the Union
I’m just upset that I’ll be in Wisconsin for the inaugural season.
"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
I still think it’s dumb they’re building a new stadium in a place that doesn’t even have soccer in the schools, but I’m pumped too. Definitely making it to the first game.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
When Coatsey got hit a couple weeks ago he tried to refuse to get it looked at (something to the effect of “I’m not getting any stitches”), now they’re making him wear a helmet?
punk’d!
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
I figured it was a joke, but it didn’t follow… I think it might have made more sense if he had acted like he needed it at the time. But the way he reacted at the time, the joke just wasn’t as funny because it didn’t jive with his reaction when it happened.
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 28, 2010 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
Coatesy just isn’t very funny, I think.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 8:06 PM EST up reply actions
Ya i just saw that. that doesn’t make sense at all
by Mitchell Green on Jan 28, 2010 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
Wait, what?
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
The Flyers have 5 wins against the eastern conference according to the Atlanta thrashers
by Mitchell Green on Jan 28, 2010 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
Ya maybe i was confused by the graphic
by Mitchell Green on Jan 28, 2010 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
Well, off the top of my head. 2 against NJ, 1 against Pit, 2 against NYR, at least 2 against NYI, maybe 3 I can’t remember.
At least 7 IN THE DIVISION
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
Why’d they blow the whistle when the Flyers had the puck in the neutral zone?
Really not cool…
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OKT is really not good.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 8:14 PM EST reply actions
WOW
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 8:14 PM EST reply actions
He is a highlight reel on skates.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 28, 2010 8:14 PM EST reply actions
Does anyone else think he should be on the first line? I don’t think Gagne and Richards are creative enough thats my reasoning
I like Giroux and Gagne together. Gagne is in a bit of a rut for the moment, but I think he has a better chance of shaking off the snakebite if Giroux is with him and not just Richie
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 28, 2010 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
I think that will make all sorts of top 10 lists.
Maybe even top 10 of 2010.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 8:15 PM EST reply actions
I like that Travis already considers Gags-Richie-Powe the second line. Because it essentially is.
When Giroux is playing center, it’s not really that important to designate 1, 2, and 3. If Giroux is on the wing, then those distinctions become a lot more obvious.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
JVR only plays well against poor teams
All his GWG have come against good teams.
by ToddtheFox on Jan 28, 2010 8:19 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
+1
Very nice.
Not that GWG are a fantastic metric, the fact that he scored against those teams period is enough to prove your point.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
SBN’s Atlanta blogger on Twitter says Giroux’s goal was “well offside.”
I didn’t see a replay, but what do you guys think?
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It didn’t look offsides to me, but I missed the beginning of the play since I was typing. I think they’re just jealous he’s not theirs :)
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 28, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
Atlanta announcers thought so but think their guy brought the puck into our zone thus eliminating the offsides
Their words, not mine
Same with JJ. Said it was probably offsides, except for the fact that Atlanta brought it in.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
What was it?
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
Lookin good so far this period, don’t let up boys.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 28, 2010 8:23 PM EST reply actions
I just got done saying Asham is the man since he’s not good enough to create his own goals, but if you put him with some playmakers, he can bury the opportunities THEY create.
Guys like that are huge.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 8:23 PM EST reply actions
Not that Asham is Knuble, but exactly.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
Hartnell looks rough tonight.
But what else is new.
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I’m still waiting for there to be a fine when it starts to block out his nameplate
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 28, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
The Eastern Conference is facking insane.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 28, 2010 8:25 PM EST reply actions
Travis...
You mentioned a BSH store…are all of the things in this store going to be centered on BSH or the Flyers or both?
Idea…a t-shirt with the likeness of the sign guy holding a sign that says BSH or broadstreethockey.com
Something like that?
Hah, I like that.
Yeah.. the ideas are site-related, but most Flyers related. Funny sayings, memes, jokes. Stuff like that.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
What about a picture a Wanted Picture of Carcillo? Since apparently the whole league hates him?
I could come up with ideas all night…not sure how many would be good.
I would buy a Carbomb tshirt. It would be hard to make it PC. You can’t exactly walk around wearing a shirt supporting carbombing.
I wonder if you could make it centered around the drink though… That’s PC in the States at least.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, throw all ideas out there. We can always tweak them if they suck, lol.
Hell, we could even throw a mystery face with a Flyers jersey on and put him behind bars or something.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
Captain Elbows?
Could we make one making fun of Carters shooting %. Like a net with targets on the outside?
I like both of those as well. Targets all over the glass and everything.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
Or my standard, “Is that goal regulation size or what???”
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
/falls over
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
How about, “Who would win: Zombie Geoff or Racist John Stevens?”
Yes, I realize that probably crosses some boundaries and whatnot, but it’d still be great to see on a t-shirt.
"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
You jinxed it.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
Carcillo is a goal scoring machine.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 28, 2010 8:29 PM EST reply actions
ba ba ba
ba ba
i’m lovin’ it.
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Droppin in just to say that Giroux goal was sweet.
Back to my game…
Follow the Penguins on SBN @ Pensburgh.com and twitter.
haha, thanks Frank
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
What would be in it?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
Any recipe ideas? We could have an official group cocktail
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 28, 2010 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
I feel like we need something to color it orange, too
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 28, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
If we’re sticking with the traditional “bomb” shot, it would require dropping something in a beer.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
We were talking about flaming shots at work today. This kid has a scar on from the corner of his mouth to the back of his ear because some of it dribbled out of his mouth.
That’s not really relevant but whatever.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
People do some dumb stuff. When I bartended, some kids tried to convince their friend that you down the shot while it’s still burning (assuming that’s what this kid did) which is NOT how you do it. That would have been bad.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
I just think anything involving fire around drunk people is a terrible idea.
Well, bonfires are always fun. One of my friends actually couldn’t join the military cause he stepped in a bonfire and had serious burns on his feet.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
haha, have you seen/heard Christopher Titus talking about when he went to a bonfire?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think so… forgot he existed actually, lol
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQX3kfdp2HQ&feature=related
The video is kinda stupid, but the audio is real
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
I recommend Barcardi O dropped in a pint of Yuengling. Yuengling is probably the most popular beer for the greater Philly area.
I wonder how that would taste though…
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
Yuengling and orange? Maybe it would work with Blue Moon, but I’m not a huge fan of beer cocktails (unless I’m at Les 3 Brasseurs in Montreal, then I make exceptions)
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 28, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
I know it’s more expensive, but I wonder if Grand Marnier would be better…
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
It might actually taste better if you made it with the straight up Yuengling porter, though
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 28, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
Do you guys really think Dan Carcillo is a guy with a refined taste for alcohol? His drink probably shouldn’t taste good.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 28, 2010 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
But if I’m going to drink it on a regular basis while I’m talking to you guys, I’d at least like it to palatable
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 28, 2010 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
The first thing I thought was unrefined oil. But I think Carcillo would want something that tastes sweet to his fans but bitter to his enemies. Can we get a recipe like that?
To build on that thought, I said before I live in DC and Yuengling tastes like crap cause it comes from the brewery in Tampa, not the one in Pottsville. So if you are outside Philly, Yuengling sucks. If you are in Philly, it’s the nectar of the gods.
But I know people who are in Pittsburgh territory that still love Yuengling, we have to be careful here
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 28, 2010 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
That makes sense, since Tampa is closer to DC than Pottsville and everything.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
The Pottsville Brewery is pretty small, they only serve PA, and the bordering states….I guess MD and DC are just too far south from pottsville. It freaking sucks. I go home to Philly on the Holidays and drown myself in Yuengling.
Yeah, I guess. It’s weird though because DC is probably only 30 minutes further from there compared to where I am. And probably closer than places like Wildwood and Cape May
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
Probably more like an hour longer, but considering you can go straight down 83, yeah, probably closer than Cape May.
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 28, 2010 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
Travis…anyway we can make this like an ongoing discussion? Like something that links off of the main page? Or is it not worth it? Totally your call.
We should probably have a fanshot/fanpost thread for both the drink recipes and for debating shirt ideas, now that you mention it
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 28, 2010 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
I could just make an “off-topic discussion thread” and throw it on the sidebar?
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
The turnovers are going to kill us man, I am an optimist, but we have had some horrific TOs tonight that will screw us against good teams.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 28, 2010 8:31 PM EST reply actions
Isn’t it strange how much everyone likes Carcillo now, just like Homer said?
It’s a shame it took about 10 months, but still.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 8:37 PM EST reply actions
Agreed. He matured a lot, and he’s mostly taking penalties we support him for as opposed to taking ones that make us angry
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 28, 2010 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
I like him, yes, but I still think it was a dumb trade at the time.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly...
Without the 2nd round pick it’d be a great trade for both sides. We gave up a better player and a pretty high pick? That’s BS.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 28, 2010 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
I won't get in too deep
But the trade was close to the right “price” in terms of what was being traded. Upshall, while a great player, didn’t have the numbers to support being a top player, or that much better than Carcillo. Upshall also had a higher cost and was a RFA at season’s end. In order to compensate, the Flyers had to give up something as a future consideration for possibly losing Upshall, plus the higher cost that resigning Upshall would bring.
Was the 2nd rounder too high? Perhaps. And there were other “non-measurables” that made the trade less than spectacular. But looking from solely a business/trade standpoint, the prices were fair.
"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
Upshall is $1.5 mil and Carcillo is making $938K. Are you telling me a 2nd rounder is worth is equal to $562K?
by Crosby sucks on Jan 28, 2010 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
It was the cost of possibly losing an entire player via RFA, or having to repay him more for retention. The cost of an unknown is high – yes, we knew what Carcillo would make, but they had no idea what Upshall’s (or his replacement) cost would be.
Again, a 2nd might have been too high, but a draft pick had to go to cover that cost between Upshall and Carcillo.
"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
You make excellent points, but I still don’t like it.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
Haha…that’s fine. Again, there were a lot of other things connected to that trade than just the business standpoint of it. Upshall was a great character guy in the locker room and Carcillo was a huge unknown. So yes, there were a lot of other reasons why you could dislike the trade. But from a strictly business standpoint, the prices were right.
"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
Absolutely a dumb trade, Upshall has 31 pts 18G. Much better player in my opinion than Carcillo
by Crosby sucks on Jan 28, 2010 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
He wasn’t going to get that here, ever. He was a 3rd liner at best here, and honestly on the 3rd line he wasn’t doing much. Carcillo has been more productive here than Upshall ever was.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 28, 2010 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
Truth, but we couldn’t have forseen that when the trade was made.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
Carcillo’s awesomeness, I mean
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
Yes we could have Carcillo has never scored more than Upshall in a season, that’s a trend.
by Crosby sucks on Jan 28, 2010 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
Well, yeah, but a lot has to go into that. Upshall is getting more opportunities there then he would have gotten here. Plus, he signed a 1 year, $1.5 million deal. Not what was expected, but still more than the Flyers could have afforded to spend on their third line winger.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
Not enough information. Carcillo had only played 57 games in 07-08 as any regular playing time in the NHL. I’ll go out on a limb and say that you shouldn’t consider a partial season a “trend”.
"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
They’re talking about socks on the Kings broadcast right now.
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How's Emery Look Tonight So Far?
Can’t watch the game tonight.
Not good, not terrible.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
The700level.com had a post today about a Pensblog entry that was pretty funny. Did anyone see this: http://www.the700level.com/2010/01/an-old-rival-shares-its-guide-to-nhl-fans.html
Well that sucked.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 28, 2010 8:58 PM EST reply actions
What? Atlanta scored?
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That was bad on so many levels.
But hey! We won the faceoff.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 8:59 PM EST reply actions
Does that mean it hasn’t frozen too much today? While there’s been good spurts, the majority of this game hasn’t quite lived up to interesting
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 28, 2010 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
That was a pretty dirty play by Briere, I’ll admit.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 9:03 PM EST reply actions
Ottawa scored, 3-1 over Pens.
3-0 Canes over Isles YES
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http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/
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How long have you been waiting for that?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
hahaha, all day really
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
Wow. Emery does not look good at all.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 9:05 PM EST reply actions
Great period boys.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 28, 2010 9:05 PM EST reply actions
I’m surprised Lavy didn’t call a TO
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 9:06 PM EST reply actions
really? shit… My B
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
/flips switch
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I think I will just stop watching Flyers games after the first two periods. They seem to fall apart in the third often. :(
They actually are 22-0-2 when leading after 2. Tenth best winning percentage in the league.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
I think the puck is in. Whether it’s a goal or not…
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 9:09 PM EST reply actions
Did it even look like they were going to consider reviewing it? I didn’t see an indication of that
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 28, 2010 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
Not at all. Still
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
Lappy fight?
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Awesome kill.
And Hedberg should’ve gotten a penalty there.
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Does that mean Kovy has to play QB too?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
I hope to God we win this in regulation.
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I think Don Waddell in ATL is that guy, actually.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
Or Bob Gainey. Or Glen Sather.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
Man, Asham really absorbed a few there before getting his kill shot. Kinda like Homer Simpson the boxer.
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Oh, hell yes
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
Even it up is the right call.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 9:21 PM EST reply actions
Unless there is a too many men on the ice.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 28, 2010 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, thank you to Eric Boulton for taking OKT off the ice for 5 minutes.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 9:21 PM EST reply actions
2. Completely my bad.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
For those of you wanting to see the chess match, here’s a handy spreadsheet for live ice times of the game:
http://www.timeonice.com/H2H0910.html?GameNumber=20793&submit=Go
It shows who Lavy is playing with each other and who he’s putting them out on the ice against.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 9:23 PM EST reply actions
That site is back?!?
YES
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, one of the group emails. I just wish it was easier to find the game number. Having to go to the Flyers site, click on the game, then stats, then game summary is just way too much work for me.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 9:24 PM EST up reply actions
Ah, must’ve missed that one.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
Get Asham an assist.
Giroux to Asham to JVR. Yes.
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He’s actually not that far off his career numbers: Link. If you look at the “miscellaneous”, you’ll see his rates.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
What the hell.
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Matt Carle had him trapped against the post
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 28, 2010 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
No, he froze trying to stop Kane and then he tried to poke the puck from him and his stick and arm got caught behind him and he couldn’t turn around to get back to the other side of the net.
Carle definitely had forward momentum, he was like leaning into Emery and they were both leaning into the post
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 28, 2010 9:29 PM EST up reply actions
Emery looks awful
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 28, 2010 9:26 PM EST reply actions
Matt Carle is having a really bad game.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 9:26 PM EST reply actions
Holy shit. Carle was holding Emery out of the crease.
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Giroux had the puck at the boards and lost it, I think
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 28, 2010 9:29 PM EST up reply actions
It looked like he thought there’d be a D-man there, and when he started to pass he saw there wasn’t and tried to stop but it was too late.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Jan 28, 2010 9:30 PM EST reply actions
I’d much prefer 22-0-3 so we at least got a charity point, but not the way this third period is going…
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 28, 2010 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
10.0 from the Scandinavian judge on Hedberg there
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hahaha, now that was entertainment at it’s finest.
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Carle and Pronger have been on the ice for 3 Thrashers goals, 1 Flyers goal
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 9:34 PM EST reply actions
Wow, the team finally woke up?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 9:35 PM EST reply actions
Most of them did… there was a long moment there where there was a loose puck right in front of him and Carter looked like his skates were glued to the ice, though
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 28, 2010 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
And that is why I advocated for goalies (outside the dots) being fair game.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 9:35 PM EST reply actions
Just caught up on DVR.
Nice to see the Flyers decided to add to the 7 minutes of hockey they played tonight here in the final three minutes of the game.
7 minutes, huh?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
I’m curious, do you sit there with a stop watch counting the minutes, or do you just pick some random number you think emphasizes your point?
7 minutes out of 57 just seems incredibly inaccurate.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
They got outplayed for 20 minutes of the first period. They played the middle of the third (when they scored all the goals), but it came right around the first commercial break. By the time they came back from the third commercial break, the Flyers were playing lackadaisical again. So it was sometime between the ~14:00 and ~6:00.
When they barely spend any time trying, it’s pretty easy to measure.
Oh, great. NOW they’ll call something.
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Gagne
he just is way off…I think we should ship him off for a defenseman
by EaglesFanatic80 on Jan 28, 2010 9:38 PM EST reply actions
Only thing is, in this game, I don’t think the bad luck was ALL his fault. He’s snakebitten for sure and not having the best week of his life by any means, but the circumstances around him today, like the goalie sliding into his feet or Briere’s interference, were outside his control
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 28, 2010 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not saying he’s blameless, only that there were some contributing factors right there at the end
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 28, 2010 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
I agree
I just think we can win without him…I also feel the same way about Hartnell…guys with value that may get us a nice D man
by EaglesFanatic80 on Jan 28, 2010 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
Pathetic.
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Yep, that’s absolutely unacceptable.
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty disgraceful game by the Flyers. Pretty sure Lavvi is going to rip them all a new one after this. You can’t allow 3 goals in the 3rd period when fighting for your playoff life.
This team just can not win consistently. They can’t do it. Doesn’t matter who the coach is. The players just don’t have the right make up. Call it a lack of desire, mental toughness whatever you want.
http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/
One more time, for effect.
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ooooh that’s a good one.
I see your NOOOOOOOOOOO and raise you a Sad Trombone!
Some think too much, then come too soon
I just curse the sun, so I can howl at the moon
Oh YEAH?
I see your Sad Trombone and raise you The Price Is Right Losing Horn!
http://priceisrightlosinghorn.com/
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
Shit, I can’t compete with that. You win this round…
Some think too much, then come too soon
I just curse the sun, so I can howl at the moon
Until next time, jello…
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by Travis Hughes on Jan 28, 2010 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
Hartnell or Gagne
one of these guys should be dealt if we wanna pick up a nice D-man…I know what Gagne has done for this team in the past but he may be shot and now would be the time to get some value for him…Hartnell I won’t even start on…I have never seen a guy fall down every single time he is on the ice!!!
by EaglesFanatic80 on Jan 28, 2010 9:46 PM EST reply actions
Me too, but Nitty playing against ATL was a free win
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 28, 2010 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
But they beat us earlier in the year too, so we’ve proven that they aren’t free anymore
by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 28, 2010 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
Whenever the recap goes up, I’ll break down why JVR was way out of position and responsible on the game-tying goal.
Hoping there is a video replay to demonstrate where Bartulis/OKT were because the broadcast didn’t show that. Though, OKT appears to have been covering a different player up the ice and not responsible.
Can you leave JVR alone and talk about why Richie and Hartnell and Gagne and Coburn suck. The guy is 3rd line rookie, he isnt why we lost. We lost because our “leaders” and “superstars” cant produce on a consistent level. I said this before, JVR may not be that great right now, but he is a class act of a player, like he does stuff with the fans and charity. When has Richards or Carter or any of the big guys ever done anything for anyone but themselves. Its the JVR’s(2nd and 3rd lines) on this team that are the only reason that we are in playoff position in the first place.
"NO HONOR"
Richards and Gagne suck because they’re playing shorthanded. Every time they give the puck to Powe he turns it over in one fashion or another. They have absolutely no chemistry because they are missing a hockey player on their line.
Hartnell is playing pretty well, he’s just snakebitten. He made a beautiful play tonight and missed scoring by half an inch. He looks fine to me.
Coburn had a strong game tonight.
Powe has played better then Gagne all season, if anything its Gagne thats holding that line down. Watch the game, he doesn’t skate anymore, he glides around and slows everything down. Richards just stands around, most of his goals are on open nets from a nice pass or ugly goals (see Mark Stalls skate goal) and is a terrible captain. Hartnell takes bad penalties and skates like Cote, last year he had a 30/30 season so it made his faults look better, but when he doesn’t produce he is no better the 4th line talent. Carter has been good lately, but for most of the season he has been absolute garbage. JVR is playing well beyond his years and is doing this on an awful team. granted he plays on the best line.
"NO HONOR"
JVR had the second best Corsi rating for the game, second best Fenwick number, and yet he still gets criticized.
There’s no stopping Mario from criticizing JVR. It’s best to just ignore it, or acknowledge that JVR made a mistake and point out that plenty of other guys did too. Mario just likes pointing out the faults of his Axis of Evil – JVR, Powe, Syvret. Nobody else can do any wrong.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
Because he plays like he’s still in college. 52 games into the season and he continues to think he can glide around, or just skate to the net and push the puck in.
But he did a fantastic job of making a 3 foot pass from his own zone and earning a gift secondary assist after Giroux made the play happen. As a reward, he didn’t play defense in the 3rd period.
just skate to the net and push the puck in.
When no one on the team is doing this, why are you making it out to be a bad thing?
And of course you’re being sarcastic about his “3 foot pass” but yet you’re ignoring the fact that he took the puck off the wall, around a defender, and started the breakout. Not only is that defensively responsible, it was a good hockey play. He got rewarded for it with an assist. But yet you can’t even compliment him for doing something right.
Oh, that’s right: The league has passed him by.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 28, 2010 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
And yes, the league has tightened up and JVR isn’t competitive. We can refer to him thinking he could flip the puck up in the air and go around a dman to get it.
Skating to the outside of the net and pushing the puck into the crease is not a sound offensive play. Him doing it twice a night isn’t going to change that.
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