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Tampa Bay Lightning at Philadelphia Flyers, Jan 9, 2010 7:00 PM EST


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#12 Tampa Bay Lightning (16-16-10, 42 pts) at #9 Philadelphia Flyers (21-19-3, 45 pts)
Wachovia Center - 7:00 PM ET - Philadelphia, PA
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Radio: 610 WIP (internet stream), XM 208
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The Tampa Bay Lightning come into town on the second half of a back to back. Well, kind of.

They suited up last night to play the New Jersey Devils and played about a period and a half, taking a 3-0 lead. But 44 seconds after Steven Stamkos made the game 3-0, the lights at Prudential Center went dark. With no announcement from the team, the crowd sat around wondering what was going on for two hours before the NHL finally determined that the game couldn't go on and that they'd have to postpone it.

So aside from the Devils doing a terrible job keeping fans on top of the situation, the Lightning are in a bit of a peculiar spot. On one hand, they're half way through one game, and they'll pick off where they left off in that game at a later date. According to the Bergen Record, the game will be completed tomorrow night at 6 PM. That means that in the middle of one game, Tampa will travel 90 miles south, play another game against the Flyers tonight, and then make the return trip to finish off Friday's game. Bizarre.

That brings us to tonight's contest. The Flyers are flying high (man, that's such a bad pun) after a 7-4 rout of the Penguins and they certainly seem like they're starting to turn a corner. When we look back on this season, we may be able to look at the Penguins win as a turning point of the season; the night where the team proved their turn around wasn't inflated by weak opposition.

But the current 6-1-1 run began in Tampa back on December 23, and with two strong wins in two games against the Lightning this season, they seem to be the perfect team to continue winning ways against. Don't be fooled by the 3-0 mark the Bolts put on New Jersey a night ago, too. Mike Smith was dazzling, stopping 20 shots in just over 30 minutes as the Devils out shot Tampa Bay 20-7.

After that work load, Smith will be on the bench tonight. Antero Niittymaki will be between the Tampa pipes. Niitty played in relief of Smith back on November 2 and played admirably after the Flyers put five pucks behind Smith. Tonight will be Niitty's first career start against the Flyers.

Opposing him will be Michael Leighton, making his billionth straight start. Ray Emery could have come back tonight but Peter Laviolette decided to be smart about the situation, instead sending him to the Phantoms for a conditioning stint. Leighton has been red hot of late, and even though he allowed four goals on Thursday night, he still was a major factor in the Philadelphia victory.

The Flyers offense is as hot as it's been all season and maybe even beyond. They've scored 17 goals in three games and they've chased the opposing goaltender in three of their last five games. Meanwhile, Vinny Lecavalier and Martin St. Louis have picked their seasons out of the doldrums and they're no red hot. Lecavalier has 13 points in his last 10 while St. Louis has 11 points in his last eight games.

Tampa can climb to within a point of the ninth-place Flyers with a victory tonight. Meanwhile, with a Flyers win and a Montreal loss to the Devils, the orange and black will be back in playoff position by the end of the night.

After the jump, questions to answer and our in-game open thread.

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Questions To Answer

  1. Do the odd circumstances surrounding the Lightning tonight effect them at all?
  2. Can the Flyers potent offense keep it going? Can they chase another goaltender?
  3. The special teams were great against Pittsburgh. The Bolts aren't a good special teams club. Formula for success?
  4. What's the reaction like when Antero Niittymaki is introduced at the Wach?
  5. How many people are actually in the building tonight with the Eagles kicking off the playoffs just an hour after puck drop?

Tonight's game will be broadcast locally on CSN Philly in high definition. Listen with the local guys at 610 WIP, and as always, join us here for the conversation if you're not out watching the Birds light up the 'Boys. I'll be at the game tonight. Go Eagles, and LET'S GO FLYERS!

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Eklund? Is that you?

by Ben Feldman on Jan 9, 2010 4:27 PM EST reply actions  

e4 or e5?

Some think too much, then come too soon
I just curse the sun, so I can howl at the moon

by jello44 on Jan 9, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll watch the first period, but after that, E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!

by Parduno on Jan 9, 2010 5:17 PM EST reply actions  

Frustrating that this game overlaps with the cowboys vs eagles game

by edbro on Jan 9, 2010 5:26 PM EST reply actions  

That’s only because Tampa Bay wouldn’t allow the Flyers to change the game time

by steve v on Jan 9, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I know I’m an awful, sinful person, but I would much rather the flyers win over the eagles. I love the birds but I’m a Flyers nut. Hope both can win.

by JpH89 on Jan 9, 2010 6:34 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Agreed but I’m a karma guy. I’d take the loss now for the win in the playoffs (that is assuming that we don’t need these two points for the playoffs).

by orangeandblack20 on Jan 9, 2010 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Since Tampa Bay will still technically be in a game with the Devils at the opening faceoff….I like our chances

Go Flyers! Go Birds!

by Flyers and Terriers on Jan 9, 2010 6:49 PM EST reply actions  

Anyone else hear or read the rumors of a possible Scott Hartnell trade to Calgary for Dion Phanuef? I doubt it would be just Hartnell but it was on ESPN.com’s rumor section. Could be true, could be total crap.

by EREX21 on Jan 9, 2010 7:12 PM EST reply actions  

Sounds like crap to me, ESPN is taking cues from Eklund. Charging money to people read “rumors” that were made up by fans or in their own twisted mind. There’s no way in hell Calgary would give up Phanuef for just Hartnell.

Some think too much, then come too soon
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by jello44 on Jan 9, 2010 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Well it said involving Hartnell not exclusively Hartnell.

by EREX21 on Jan 9, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

The rumors aren’t true. At least that’s what I heard on the radio today.

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by Travis Hughes on Jan 9, 2010 7:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I didn’t really think so either. I was just curious if anyone else had heard/read it. It seems to me like the Flyers are being attached to just about everyone that is possibly on the trade block.

by EREX21 on Jan 9, 2010 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I am from Calgary and have seen Phaneuf play a few times. The Flames can keep him.

by Timmah! on Jan 9, 2010 7:13 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah he’s way overrated, he had a great rookie season but he hasn’t really improved off it. I wouldn’t want him on the flyers.

by JpH89 on Jan 9, 2010 7:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

We have cap issues already, we don’t need another overpaid pylon.

by Timmah! on Jan 9, 2010 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Too many passes again, shoot the damn thing.

by Timmah! on Jan 9, 2010 7:14 PM EST reply actions  

anybody got a stream for this game?

by edbro on Jan 9, 2010 7:17 PM EST reply actions  

Ohhhh it’s so good to be back, this is the first game I’ve gotten to watch in 2 weeks! (I actually missed you guys, too)

by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 9, 2010 7:30 PM EST reply actions  

I apologize in advance for being completely off the wall today, I’ve been in Methodist hospital for 10 days and I’m still pretty doped up

by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 9, 2010 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope it wasn’t anything too serious, glad to have you back though.

by edbro on Jan 9, 2010 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Flyers are a respectable organization again, thas been the past 10 days for ya.

by JpH89 on Jan 9, 2010 7:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Giroux!!!!!!!!!!

by edbro on Jan 9, 2010 7:32 PM EST reply actions  

GIROUX

Some think too much, then come too soon
I just curse the sun, so I can howl at the moon

by jello44 on Jan 9, 2010 7:33 PM EST reply actions  

Gagne with the assist… 500 pts for him!!

by edbro on Jan 9, 2010 7:33 PM EST reply actions  

Atta boy Giroux!!

by EREX21 on Jan 9, 2010 7:34 PM EST reply actions  

Wow. this feed I have must be slow….I still haven’t seen the goal yet.

by Timmah! on Jan 9, 2010 7:35 PM EST reply actions  

I’m listening to the radio feed now.. that feed was slow and lagging for me, it would buffer literally every 15 seconds.

by edbro on Jan 9, 2010 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

The goal was just scored on this feed.

by Timmah! on Jan 9, 2010 7:36 PM EST reply actions  

I was starting to think you were all full of shit :D

by Timmah! on Jan 9, 2010 7:37 PM EST reply actions  

hartnell dropped him

by edbro on Jan 9, 2010 7:44 PM EST reply actions  

That was a weak fight but whatever. Looked good for Hartnell.

by EREX21 on Jan 9, 2010 7:45 PM EST reply actions  

Solid 1st period.

by edbro on Jan 9, 2010 7:47 PM EST reply actions  

They called Gagne for hooking for almost nothing and then don’t call that trip? Sheesh

by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 9, 2010 8:06 PM EST reply actions  

they made an equally bad call on betts before that… the officiating has not been great for sure

by edbro on Jan 9, 2010 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess JJ’s wife likes him without the stache? I expected it to be grown back in by now.

by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 9, 2010 8:08 PM EST reply actions  

Semi stache is a bad look. I’m guessing he’ll wait for the Olympic break to grow it back if he makes that choice.

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by Ben Rothenberg on Jan 9, 2010 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

wow so close… great save by nitty

by edbro on Jan 9, 2010 8:10 PM EST reply actions  

i do miss nitty…I have always liked him as a goalie

by Leclairfan on Jan 9, 2010 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

he was always reliable against atlanta

by edbro on Jan 9, 2010 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

He is still perfect in his career vs Atlanta.

by Timmah! on Jan 9, 2010 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

His record against the southeast division as whole was pretty ridiculous. I just double checked the stats, and he was 20-8-2 against the SE in his three seasons as a Flyer. If you subtract 06-07 and only count the last two seasons, it would be 17-1-1.

by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 9, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I am not trying to downplay Nitty at all, as those numbers are pretty ridiculous…but you do have to agree that the SE division in general is pretty weak. Probably the weakest in the entire league.

by Timmah! on Jan 9, 2010 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree but the talent he has is awsome..but he never seemed to adjust his play.

by Leclairfan on Jan 9, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

nitty just robbed powe

by edbro on Jan 9, 2010 8:19 PM EST reply actions  

Come on flyers, Leighton has been great but another goal would be great

by edbro on Jan 9, 2010 8:31 PM EST reply actions  

Leighton has been unreal lately. I know I’ve only been able to listen to the last few games, but wow.

(Yes, I snuck a radio into the headache ward at the hospital, I was desperate!)

by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 9, 2010 8:33 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t blame you, I’d go nuts without at least a radio feed for a couple of games hah.

by edbro on Jan 9, 2010 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

The nurses were impressed with my dedication, but I apparently wasn’t in a good mood when my IV drugs made me sleep through the classic… I don’t think I was very nice when I woke up.

by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 9, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

he has made really nice saves. I like that fact…so he is making Bosh and Em a little nervous and make the goalies play a little harder

by Leclairfan on Jan 9, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I think its good, they should give Emery more time to rest. Be extra cautious just because you can with Leighton playing so good.

by edbro on Jan 9, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

We should be riding Leighton as long as he stays hot, no reason to mess with what’s working. If that gives Emery & Boosh more time to heal, all the better.

by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 9, 2010 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Timonen… delay oh game. Jeez. Good thing PK has been stellar so far.

by edbro on Jan 9, 2010 8:36 PM EST reply actions  

Toronto..i’ll trade you one delay of game penalty for one simon gagne goal….OK i know not worth it but come on they owe us.

by Leclairfan on Jan 9, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

they owe us one shorthanded gagne goal

by edbro on Jan 9, 2010 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

hehe Gagne is overdue for shortie, period. I don’t care where it comes from

by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 9, 2010 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Looks like the officials must have lost their whistles during the first intermission. Wow.

by Timmah! on Jan 9, 2010 8:37 PM EST reply actions  

Lets see if the Flyers can win a close one. The PK has done its job.

by edbro on Jan 9, 2010 8:56 PM EST reply actions  

hartnell scoreS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by edbro on Jan 9, 2010 9:00 PM EST reply actions  

ends his long goal scoring drought

by edbro on Jan 9, 2010 9:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice! Well played, boys

by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 9, 2010 9:01 PM EST reply actions  

Now we’ve just gotta get Hartnell an assist….

by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 9, 2010 9:02 PM EST reply actions  

Darn, JJ said the same thing just as I typed it

by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 9, 2010 9:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Heh, my feed:

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Vexcast feeds fucking blow.

by Boog609 on Jan 9, 2010 9:03 PM EST reply actions  

+1 I have resorted to the radio feed. The vexcast feed lagged like crazy and I would be buffering every 10 seconds.

by edbro on Jan 9, 2010 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Bird-dog finally nets a goal, woooo

by JpH89 on Jan 9, 2010 9:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Emery not looking good for the phantoms… Given up 2 goals on 13 shots.

by edbro on Jan 9, 2010 9:12 PM EST reply actions  

lol @ trying to get Coatsy to pronounce Örnsköldsvik

by Boog609 on Jan 9, 2010 9:15 PM EST reply actions  

2-1… St. Louis ruins the shutout

by edbro on Jan 9, 2010 9:19 PM EST reply actions  

vexcast cut out on anyone else?

by Timmah! on Jan 9, 2010 9:20 PM EST reply actions  

Ugh..

Ugh.. Get that one back guys.

Some think too much, then come too soon
I just curse the sun, so I can howl at the moon

by jello44 on Jan 9, 2010 9:20 PM EST reply actions  

Every time St. Louis scores against us it’s like opening up an old wound for me…

by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 9, 2010 9:20 PM EST reply actions  

High Sticking on TB.. .Let’s get that one back on the PP.

by edbro on Jan 9, 2010 9:22 PM EST reply actions  

Bad penalty Gagne. Giving them 1 minute powerplay after this 4 on 4.

by edbro on Jan 9, 2010 9:26 PM EST reply actions  

Neither one of Gagne’s penalties have looked like penalities to me, though

by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 9, 2010 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

What? Does that ref have it out for Gags tonight?

by DragonGirl0583 on Jan 9, 2010 9:27 PM EST reply actions  

BETTS!!!!!!!!!!!! 3-1

by edbro on Jan 9, 2010 9:27 PM EST reply actions  

There it is. Betts!

Some think too much, then come too soon
I just curse the sun, so I can howl at the moon

by jello44 on Jan 9, 2010 9:27 PM EST reply actions  

And with the EN to finish.

Some think too much, then come too soon
I just curse the sun, so I can howl at the moon

by jello44 on Jan 9, 2010 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

BETTS NUMBER 2!!! empty netter

by edbro on Jan 9, 2010 9:31 PM EST reply actions  

Great Game. Leighton played great again.

by edbro on Jan 9, 2010 9:33 PM EST reply actions  

Super betts.

by JpH89 on Jan 9, 2010 9:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Do you play Emery next game? Emery faced 14 shots tonight and let 2 goals in. Not very convincing if you ask me.

by edbro on Jan 9, 2010 9:40 PM EST reply actions  

I didn’t watch the game, so I don’t know how the goals were scored. It is possible they weren’t his fault and otherwise he was flawless, I’m just looking at the boxscore.

by edbro on Jan 9, 2010 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I read a small blurb that said he wasn’t exactly 100%,plus coming back from surgery, it may be a little bit before he’s ready. I would expect him to be on the bench when he comes back, and Leighton getting the start against Dallas on Tuesday. Gotta ease him back into it, and not throw him right back in there, it’ll just make things worse.

Some think too much, then come too soon
I just curse the sun, so I can howl at the moon

by jello44 on Jan 9, 2010 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s what I feel as well, were not desperate for better goaltending so I think it’d be smart to be a little more cautious with his return.

by edbro on Jan 10, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks all around

Thanks to the Flyers for winning.

Thanks to the Lightning for NOT rescheduling. Flyers > Eagles.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Jan 9, 2010 10:10 PM EST reply actions  

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